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human bodies will adapt and evolve.
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The word is MUTATE.
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You decide if this is true.




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This woman's are NOT universally respected. Search the press that we are not allowed to link to on GLP for alternative views of her 'truth'. It makes interesting reading.
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You decide if this is true.




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Perhaps it's not on the MSM because it's unsubstantiated nonsense.
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You decide if this is true.




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this is a must see

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propoganda

The Illuminati love a hidden killer all bullshit
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Come on mutated X-genes!!

I want to be able to morph into other shapes and move at the speed of light. What super powers do you folks want?
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human bodies will adapt and evolve.
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..into walking cancer.
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human bodies will adapt and evolve.
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Doubt it not in mass most of us would get cancer imo.One or two may evolve thus making the human race in generation's after generation immune to it.I watched a video yesterday on how they have been poisoning the atmosphere with nuclear material since the late 40's so maybe some of us are already immune to it.
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The most animals of Cernobyl are immune already! Or were they immune for millions of years? Or is the radiation in Cernobyl not the mass we were told to?
Is maybe the radiation something else as we are told to?
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recent findings say that birds living around chernobyl have smaller brains than normal birds. Scary now, huh? Sleep tight.
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then there are these videos ...fukishima news also - not on mainstream


[link to www.youtube.com]
tepcos answer to fallout - "dispersant" of their own. corexit on steroids..

[link to www.youtube.com]
very telling footage - also shows 3 reactors smoking...or should I say "emitting radiation into the atmosphere" heading directly to the northern hemisphere.

[link to www.youtube.com]

etc
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i hope we think it through next time we decide to use haarp to bring a country to its knees. it just might affect us too.
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human bodies will adapt and evolve.
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yes agreed... that and people need to understand the enormous size of our planet and the definitions of isotopes.
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Ah two noobs who never opened a book.
good luck with that logic, the like of you will be the first to go.
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So it's "On The Beach" 2.0?
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We need to NOW start a "Manhattan Project" like effort using our best and brightest to do the following things:

1. Begin looking for a way to neutralize this awful waste. (There may not be any but we should start looking in earnest.) This should be one of our highest national priorities.

2. Start converting empty office space and even high rise buildings into nearly automated farms that can grow our food in a safe space, protected from rain, and fallout. This should be a major priority so the world doesn't end up killing itself on the radioactive food. Or starting wars over the tiny bits of safe land left to grow food on. We must have this online and able to feed most of the world, within five years. Once the switchover is begun, we will not be able to go back to standard farming of the land for hundreds of year unless #1 above finds a way of stopping the radioactive material in a hurry.

3. OUTLAW and dismantle all nuclear power plants world wide! No more making the situation worse. We must find a way to seal these waste rods in granite and put it deep enough in the earth that it cannot be reached by any human being for at least 3000 years

4. Pull any and all hidden energy technology out of mothballs and get it into use as soon as possible. This means Tesla's generators and equipment generating as much zero-point energy as we need and we must forget about making a profit on this. We need energy just like we need water and air. Take it away and our civilization grinds to a halt and we either freeze or burn up depending on where we live.

5. Science should start looking at a way to upload our minds and memories and personalities into computers. We may well find we do not need or want physical bodies any longer. We would have done this anyway within 100 years. Now we need to do it within ten or fifteen years at the outside.

6. Push R&D of nanotech which has the potential to go in and repair our cells and their miscoded and injured DNA. Again, we would have done this by 2040 most likely anyway. But now we need it by 2015 at the latest!

7. Pass laws allowing euthanasia by those who have absorbed lethal dosages of radiation and who are suffering. There is no point in prolonging their agony if the outcome is inevitable. BTW: this should strictly be under the control of the individual and NEVER mandated or done for someone without their consent by the state or governmental agencies.

8. To the extent possible, find lawful ways to hold Japan responsible for their role in making this worse and violating safety standards and upgrade recommendations in the name of profit. Tepco's borad and senior management should be tried publicly and then executed on TV in front of the whole world. Same thing for the Japanese regulatory bodies that failed to inspect and make these plants as safe as possible and who were pressured by Tepco to "look the other way" and falsify safety documents and checks, etc. Then there is the whole issue of lying to the world for months on end rather than getting in there and doing something to contain this mess immediately. While it may have been unavoidable because of the quake and tsunami, the damage could have been minimized rather than letting the open blazes and explosions go on and on while they pump water into the things from the sea and the let that highly radioactive water leak back out into the sea and the local water tables.

9. Acknowledge that the Japanese disaster was an "act of God" and probably could not have been prevented or foreseen by man. HOWEVER, what the Tepco staff and the Japanese Government did AFTER the initial accidents has been CRIMINAL AND SELF-SERVING since day one or two. The entire world needs to see these morons being publicly punished for their role in attempting to conceal/cover/and shift blame. Perhaps the best punishment would be to drop them and their families down into the reactors and let them simply walk out. By the time they'd get off the site, they'd have had enough radiation to kill them within a matter of weeks or less! Maybe that would be more effective than public execution (and what else is reasonable for such a hideous wretched crime against the entire world?)

10. Japan's entire GNP, stock market profits and publiy and governmental agencies should be taxed at 70% of their profit for the next 100 years to begin to pay the real costs to treat the injured and provide families income when their husbands/fathers/breadwinners have been killed or disabled by the radiation released over these past two months.

Finally, maybe it's time for man to figure out that Nuclear reactions are 93 million miles away from us on the sun for a REASON! Bringing such a fire back to our home planet and lighting it has quickly taught us that this is a fire that cannot be put out. As such, it's best to leave it where our creator saw fit to place it. Well away from it being able to directly harm us most of the time!
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this is future music , you notice in the next decades
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this is future music , you notice in the next decades
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U'll notice nothing from the bottom of the sea.
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Could be worse. Chillax people..
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human bodies will adapt and evolve.
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no mammal on earth has ever evolved any sort of mechanism against concentrated radioactive elements, or radiation for that matter. Now insects, that's a different matter, those sons of bitches are tough little bastards. Unless we suddenly become insect like, i don't see us surviving a radioactive shitstorm.
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[link to www.helencaldicott.com]

can we say agenda? all sh wants is to do away with nuclear energy.. am i to believe her now? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Helen Caldicott is a highly credible person.
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human bodies will adapt and evolve.
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zombies
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Helen Caldicott is a highly credible person.
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she is not an expert on nuclear energy my friend.

len Caldicott Maybe a good debater, she just lies and makes up facts that are proven FALSE. She maybe an expert on treating kids with a runny nose, but that's it.

Beware of people who make living selling books pushing a particular viewpoint. She is not a expert on nuclear power at all.

Helen Caldicott is not an expert on nuclear power or a “renowned physicist” or even a “physicist­” of any kind. She is Physician, a medical Doctor. A physicist has a Phd in physics..S­he is a makes her living as a Anti Nuclear critic by speaking and selling books, that is the truth.

“Born in Melbourne, Australia in 1938, Dr Caldicott received her medical degree from the University of Adelaide Medical School in 1961. She founded the Cystic Fibrosis Clinic at the Adelaide Children's Hospital in 1975 and subsequent­ly was an instructor in pediatrics at Harvard Medical School and on the staff of the Children's Hospital Medical Center, Boston, Mass., until 1980 when she resigned to work full time on the prevention of nuclear war.”
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dear god please forgive me and my fellow man for being so arrogant and foolish , the older i get the more i relise how far weve strayed from you ,dear god forgive us for we certainly do not know what the hell were doing.
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Helen Caldicott is a highly credible person.
 Quoting: Emeline


she is not an expert on nuclear energy my friend.

len Caldicott Maybe a good debater, she just lies and makes up facts that are proven FALSE. She maybe an expert on treating kids with a runny nose, but that's it.

Beware of people who make living selling books pushing a particular viewpoint. She is not a expert on nuclear power at all.

Helen Caldicott is not an expert on nuclear power or a “renowned physicist” or even a “physicist­” of any kind. She is Physician, a medical Doctor. A physicist has a Phd in physics..S­he is a makes her living as a Anti Nuclear critic by speaking and selling books, that is the truth.

“Born in Melbourne, Australia in 1938, Dr Caldicott received her medical degree from the University of Adelaide Medical School in 1961. She founded the Cystic Fibrosis Clinic at the Adelaide Children's Hospital in 1975 and subsequent­ly was an instructor in pediatrics at Harvard Medical School and on the staff of the Children's Hospital Medical Center, Boston, Mass., until 1980 when she resigned to work full time on the prevention of nuclear war.”
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bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

The shit she's explaining to people is simple shit you should already know - just sayin'.
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dear god please forgive me and my fellow man for being so arrogant and foolish , the older i get the more i relise how far weve strayed from you ,dear god forgive us for we certainly do not know what the hell were doing.
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mments by Dr. Michael C. Baker
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I recently read Helen Caldicott's response to the letters to the LA Times on your web site and thought I would make a couple of comments. First, I am the individual from Los Alamos "where new and better nuclear bombs are currently being designed for use in third world countries". This is an interesting and totally unsupportable statement that she has made. I am unaware of any such work and would question why on earth she believes that the US would want to use nuclear weapons in a third world country?

Let me add that I do not currently and never have worked on nuclear weapons. Although weapons work certainly is carried out at Los Alamos, the laboratory employs around 10,000 people doing work as diverse as Native American anthropology to the Human Genome Project. I personally work in nuclear safeguards which is a field dedicated to the nonproliferation of weapons of mass destruction not building better and new ones.



In her letter she states:


"Should I defend myself when it is obvious that radio-
iodine was only one of the fallout isotopes, yet none of
you have had the integrity to examine the medical
implications of others, including strontium 90, cesium 137,
plutonium and other transuranics?"


Funny that there are dozens if not hundreds of scientific studies on the health effects of these isotopes, many of them carried out here at Los Alamos. It seems this is another unsupported lie on her part. Perhaps in the many hours she spends campaigning against all things nuclear, she could spare a few to review the scientific literature.

I would also like to comment on her use of 20 year old information on uranium enrichment, a very small part of the nuclear fuel cycle, to make the assertion that nuclear power is contributing to global warming. In 1996 alone, U.S. nuclear power plants prevented the discharge of 147 million tons of carbon, 2.5 millions tons of nitrogen oxide and 5.3 million tons of sulfur dioxide. Since 1973, nuclear power plants have accounted for 90% of all carbon emission reductions achieved by the electric utility industry. By picking one small part of the nuclear fuel cycle Ms. Caldicott has ignored these numbers and a real benefit of nuclear energy


Finally I would like to comment on what she calls an "important" book for the public. Her book, Nuclear Madness, is so full of half truths and blatant lies that it is hard for a scientist to read. You will note that her references include very few peer reviewed scientific papers and when they do they frequently do not support her conclusions. I believe that she hopes the reader will not take the time or have the resources to look up the scientific papers. I would conclude by encouraging the people that read her book and papers to do just that.

Sincerely,

Michael Baker


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Michael C. Baker, Ph.D.

Safeguards Science and Technology
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[link to www.helencaldicott.com]

can we say agenda? all sh wants is to do away with nuclear energy.. am i to believe her now? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1349452


Riiight... because Nuclear energy has worked out so well for us.... 2 major disasters, over a million dead, yea.. I'd rather have free energy thx.
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I am not a big fan, but I have eaten a few Turkish apricots here and there. damned

How do you Europeans feel about what she said that 40% of Europe is contaminated?
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I am not a big fan, but I have eaten a few Turkish apricots here and there. damned

How do you Europeans feel about what she said that 40% of Europe is contaminated?
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It would explain the massive increase in cancers
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In her response, Helen Caldicott listed several references that she claims
support her view that low doses of radiation are "6 to 8 times more
dangerous that originally estimated". Let's consider her reference number
3, on the epidemiological study of Rocketdyne workers. As usual with the
scientific claims of Helen Caldicott, the study does not provide strong
evidence for her position. Actually the study showed that Rocketdyne
radiation workers had a lower incidence of death from "all causes" and also
a lower incidence of death from cancer, than the U.S. population and also
in comparison to other worker groups. Let's consider the actual percentages.
Compared to the U.S. population, Rocketdyne radiation workers had a 32%
lower death rate from "all causes" and a 21% lower death rate from "all
cancers". Compared to a similar worker control group, Rocketdyne radiation
workers had a 38% lower death rate from "all causes", and a 11% lower death
rate from "all cancers". The number of radiation workers from which these
percentages are derived is over 4,000 which allows a high degree of
confidence that the differences are real and not due to chance.
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In her response, Helen Caldicott listed several references that she claims
support her view that low doses of radiation are "6 to 8 times more
dangerous that originally estimated". Let's consider her reference number
3, on the epidemiological study of Rocketdyne workers. As usual with the
scientific claims of Helen Caldicott, the study does not provide strong
evidence for her position. Actually the study showed that Rocketdyne
radiation workers had a lower incidence of death from "all causes" and also
a lower incidence of death from cancer, than the U.S. population and also
in comparison to other worker groups. Let's consider the actual percentages.
Compared to the U.S. population, Rocketdyne radiation workers had a 32%
lower death rate from "all causes" and a 21% lower death rate from "all
cancers". Compared to a similar worker control group, Rocketdyne radiation
workers had a 38% lower death rate from "all causes", and a 11% lower death
rate from "all cancers". The number of radiation workers from which these
percentages are derived is over 4,000 which allows a high degree of
confidence that the differences are real and not due to chance.
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The extraction of important conclusions from a very small set of numbers
is a common characteristic of epidemiological studies by the anti-nuclear
groups. The most important conclusion from the Rocketdyne study and others
like it, is that common personal habits and cultural factors are far more
important in determining risk of premature death than is exposure
to ionizing radiation. The anti-nuclear activists would save more lives,
thousands of times more lives, if they attacked smoking, abuse of alcohol,
and careless driving habits, rather than the use of radioactive materials.
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I am not a big fan, but I have eaten a few Turkish apricots here and there. damned

How do you Europeans feel about what she said that 40% of Europe is contaminated?
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It would explain the massive increase in cancers
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Not necessarily. There are so many untested chemicals used in everything today. Just yesterday, it was reported that compact fluorescent light bulbs give off dangerous chemicals!

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