BROWN DWARF OR COMET? SOUTHPOLE LIVECAM SHOWING SUN LIKE OBJECT PLANET X ??? | |
TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States 04/24/2011 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the sun as viewed thru 4 different cameras this morning: Quoting: deltawavedo you see an additional sun like object or planet X? Do you own an infrared telescope? This object is a "brown dwarf"...meaning it's an un-ignited sun that can't be seen in the visible light spectrum. Where did you hear it 'can't be seen in the visible light spectrum'? They are dim but are actually brighter than Jupiter. From here you find the Brown Dwarf Absolute Magnitude range is from +15 to +20 - [link to en.wikipedia.org] From here you find that Jupiter has an Absolute Magnitude of +26 - [link to books.google.com] Now considering that Jupiter is around the 3rd brightest planet in the solar system, any Brown Dwarf approaching the orbit of Jupiter would quickly be recognized as one of the brightest planets in the system and would be seen visually long before that.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1355614 United States 04/24/2011 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where did you hear it 'can't be seen in the visible light spectrum'? They are dim but are actually brighter than Jupiter. From here you find the Brown Dwarf Absolute Magnitude range is from +15 to +20 - [link to en.wikipedia.org] Quoting: TBar1984From here you find that Jupiter has an Absolute Magnitude of +26 - [link to books.google.com] Now considering that Jupiter is around the 3rd brightest planet in the solar system, any Brown Dwarf approaching the orbit of Jupiter would quickly be recognized as one of the brightest planets in the system and would be seen visually long before that.... Look at these NASA images: [link to tinypic.com] [link to tinypic.com] I have some other images as well. That object is about the size of Jupiter. It really pissed off the Sun when it went close in February, as you can see. Probably from its powerful magnetic and gravity fields. Seeing as it was completely enveloped in that flare, that means it was no more than 5 million miles from the Sun. So, Jupiter-sized and 5 million miles from the Sun - that eliminates the nine known planets. Soooo... That object is, I believe, what people are seeing around the world with all the many thousands of 'second sun' videos. It's not invisible, clearly, but it probably doesn't emit much visible light itself. If it is a brown dwarf, and it seems to be, then it is, I believe, a small Type T brown dwarf, probably emitting a ferocious amount of x-rays. That's likely causing the mass animal die-offs worldwide. Sickening people too - swollen thyroids, pressure headaches, ear-ringing, nausea, skin rashes, etc. The effects of that thing's gravity are obvious unless you're blind: exponential rise in quakes, volcanic eruptions, magnetosphere problems, aberrant high and low tides, 'rogue waves', sinkholes, lithosphere tears, crop failures, weather chaos, yada yada. It'd be nice if NASA would stop hiding all the info from us. We know now from their own images that something other than the nine planets is in the inner solar system, it is powerful, and it is seriously disrupting life on Earth. |
TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States 04/24/2011 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where did you hear it 'can't be seen in the visible light spectrum'? They are dim but are actually brighter than Jupiter. From here you find the Brown Dwarf Absolute Magnitude range is from +15 to +20 - [link to en.wikipedia.org] Quoting: TBar1984From here you find that Jupiter has an Absolute Magnitude of +26 - [link to books.google.com] Now considering that Jupiter is around the 3rd brightest planet in the solar system, any Brown Dwarf approaching the orbit of Jupiter would quickly be recognized as one of the brightest planets in the system and would be seen visually long before that.... Look at these NASA images: [link to tinypic.com] [link to tinypic.com] I have some other images as well. That object is about the size of Jupiter. It really pissed off the Sun when it went close in February, as you can see. Probably from its powerful magnetic and gravity fields. Seeing as it was completely enveloped in that flare, that means it was no more than 5 million miles from the Sun. So, Jupiter-sized and 5 million miles from the Sun - that eliminates the nine known planets. Soooo... That object is, I believe, what people are seeing around the world with all the many thousands of 'second sun' videos. It's not invisible, clearly, but it probably doesn't emit much visible light itself. If it is a brown dwarf, and it seems to be, then it is, I believe, a small Type T brown dwarf, probably emitting a ferocious amount of x-rays. That's likely causing the mass animal die-offs worldwide. Sickening people too - swollen thyroids, pressure headaches, ear-ringing, nausea, skin rashes, etc. The effects of that thing's gravity are obvious unless you're blind: exponential rise in quakes, volcanic eruptions, magnetosphere problems, aberrant high and low tides, 'rogue waves', sinkholes, lithosphere tears, crop failures, weather chaos, yada yada. It'd be nice if NASA would stop hiding all the info from us. We know now from their own images that something other than the nine planets is in the inner solar system, it is powerful, and it is seriously disrupting life on Earth. So you insist that a object of that size, that close to the sun would not be naked eye visible? It would be bathed in sunlight and be easily seen as the brightest object in the system besides the sun. Not to mention the gravitational effects something at least 13 times as massive as Jupiter would have on ALL the planet's orbits. Every Astronomer on the planet would be screaming! You need to do a lot more research.... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1355614 United States 04/24/2011 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you insist that a object of that size, that close to the sun would not be naked eye visible? It would be bathed in sunlight and be easily seen as the brightest object in the system besides the sun. Not to mention the gravitational effects something at least 13 times as massive as Jupiter would have on ALL the planet's orbits. Every Astronomer on the planet would be screaming! Quoting: TBar1984You need to do a lot more research.... Hmm? So what do YOU think that giant object is that NASA's been watching? And if not that thing's gravity field, then what object's gravity field do YOU think is causing the exponential rise in disasters related to tidal forces? The pics are clear enough. Perhaps I'll show some more later. I have some good ones. As for the effects on other planets, I guess you are unaware that Saturn broke out into an unprecedented geomagnetic storm not too long ago, as that thing was coming in. Not long after that, Jupiter did the same thing. Not long after that, Mars' poles started melting rapidly. Not long after that, WE started having lots of problems. Look at that sequence: Saturn -> Jupiter -> Mars -> Earth. It oesn't take a rocket scientist to realize something entered our inner system, disrupting planets as it went. Perhaps YOU need to do some more research, since you are seemingly unaware of what's been going on. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1289877 United States 04/24/2011 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ....Look at these NASA images: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355614[link to tinypic.com] [link to tinypic.com] I have some other images as well. That object is about the size of Jupiter. It really pissed off the Sun when it went close in February, as you can see. Probably from its powerful magnetic and gravity fields. Seeing as it was completely enveloped in that flare, that means it was no more than 5 million miles from the Sun. So, Jupiter-sized and 5 million miles from the Sun - that eliminates the nine known planets. Soooo... That object is, I believe, what people are seeing around the world with all the many thousands of 'second sun' videos. It's not invisible, clearly, but it probably doesn't emit much visible light itself. If it is a brown dwarf, and it seems to be, then it is, I believe, a small Type T brown dwarf, probably emitting a ferocious amount of x-rays. That's likely causing the mass animal die-offs worldwide. Sickening people too - swollen thyroids, pressure headaches, ear-ringing, nausea, skin rashes, etc. The effects of that thing's gravity are obvious unless you're blind: exponential rise in quakes, volcanic eruptions, magnetosphere problems, aberrant high and low tides, 'rogue waves', sinkholes, lithosphere tears, crop failures, weather chaos, yada yada. It'd be nice if NASA would stop hiding all the info from us. We know now from their own images that something other than the nine planets is in the inner solar system, it is powerful, and it is seriously disrupting life on Earth. |
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TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States 04/24/2011 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you insist that a object of that size, that close to the sun would not be naked eye visible? It would be bathed in sunlight and be easily seen as the brightest object in the system besides the sun. Not to mention the gravitational effects something at least 13 times as massive as Jupiter would have on ALL the planet's orbits. Every Astronomer on the planet would be screaming! Quoting: TBar1984You need to do a lot more research.... Hmm? So what do YOU think that giant object is that NASA's been watching? And if not that thing's gravity field, then what object's gravity field do YOU think is causing the exponential rise in disasters related to tidal forces? The pics are clear enough. Perhaps I'll show some more later. I have some good ones. As for the effects on other planets, I guess you are unaware that Saturn broke out into an unprecedented geomagnetic storm not too long ago, as that thing was coming in. Not long after that, Jupiter did the same thing. Not long after that, Mars' poles started melting rapidly. Not long after that, WE started having lots of problems. Look at that sequence: Saturn -> Jupiter -> Mars -> Earth. It oesn't take a rocket scientist to realize something entered our inner system, disrupting planets as it went. Perhaps YOU need to do some more research, since you are seemingly unaware of what's been going on. So what do YOU think that giant object is that NASA's been watching? What giant object? Link? And if not that thing's gravity field, then what object's gravity field do YOU think is causing the exponential rise in disasters related to tidal forces? Tidal Forces, ok, have you or anyone else noticed the Printed Tides Tables to be off from their predictions? I'm not talking about a one time event, are the Tides off? Saturn broke out into an unprecedented geomagnetic storm not too long ago, as that thing was coming in. Not long after that, Jupiter did the same thing. Not long after that, Mars' poles started melting rapidly. You're talking about weather events, I'm talking ORBITS. Something 13 times as massive as Jupiter would make the inner system look like a billiard table. It doesn't, in fact, all the planetary orbits are stable. Look at this table again - [link to en.wikipedia.org] Our sun has an Absolute Magnitude of +4.8, Jupiter is +26. At the high end of +15, a Brown Dwarf would be closer to the Brightness of the SUN than Jupiter. Do you have any idea what that means? Your argument only appears valid to the ignorant. Last Edited by TBar1984 on 04/24/2011 07:24 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1355614 United States 04/24/2011 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Orbits are measured by whom? NASA. Who is hiding info from us? NASA. So, there ya go. If we survive, maybe they will update us on orbital info. Ya know, I don't really mind you shills that much. But for the sake of my sanity, please get BETTER at it. I used to work in psyops myself in the Army, so I can smell even the clever shills a mile away. You guys are not the clever shills. You stink. You're just way too obvious. I hope we're not outsourcing THAT too. Jeez. |
TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States 04/24/2011 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Orbits are measured by whom? NASA. Who is hiding info from us? NASA. So, there ya go. If we survive, maybe they will update us on orbital info. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355614Ya know, I don't really mind you shills that much. But for the sake of my sanity, please get BETTER at it. I used to work in psyops myself in the Army, so I can smell even the clever shills a mile away. You guys are not the clever shills. You stink. You're just way too obvious. I hope we're not outsourcing THAT too. Jeez. Yer right, there ain't a single Amateur Astronomer on the planet capable of calculating an orbit. Or being able to tell when the object that's supposed to be in their scope ain't there.... Right! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1289877 United States 04/24/2011 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ....Ya know, I don't really mind you shills that much. But for the sake of my sanity, please get BETTER at it. I used to work in psyops myself in the Army, so I can smell even the clever shills a mile away. You guys are not the clever shills. You stink. You're just way too obvious. I hope we're not outsourcing THAT too. Jeez. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355614Hahahahahahaha! That is just perfect! Gotta hand it to ya, I couldn't even say it myself! |
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TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States 04/24/2011 07:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: ZOSIME You should post the new one that's on page 2; Webcam in Antarctica Shows Sun Like Object - Debunked (MOON) [link to www.youtube.com] |
emerald eye Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 1161728 United States 04/24/2011 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You can see it on today's web cam (4-24-11), images from the right of the screen very faint moving to the left of the screen in a downward trajectory until it dips beneath the horizon, starting at 15:20 UTC (image 93/144) untill the 16:40 UTC (image 101/144). [link to www.awi.de] It is brightest, at around 16:10 (image 98/144) just above the horizon (facing south) Hit "step" so you can pause, stop and go back to see it well. Thanks for this link!! It it were to be the moon, it would be setting nearly straight south. I have never seen the moon setting nearly straight south. Last Edited by emerald eye on 04/24/2011 08:07 PM Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
UndercoverAlien User ID: 1329881 Brazil 04/24/2011 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Bad news for doomtards. This video was originally uploaded by 5STARSCREAM144. As usual he claimed it was NIBIRU, but it seems that someone has already debunked him and he admitted it. He just changed the title of the video and removed the audio where he did elaborate about the "brown dwarf" seen in the video. Quoting: UndercoverAlienOr it could be he was forced to change his opinion and title of the video. That could be a possibility. "Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1202662 United States 04/24/2011 08:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355152 YOURE NOTHING BUT A FART..STFU.. |
emerald eye Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 1161728 United States 04/24/2011 08:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | for further discussion. Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1355524 United States 04/24/2011 08:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, in this video: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355185[link to www.awi.de] at slides 100-114 do not match the size of the moon in this video: [link to www.awi.de] at slides 118-138 The moon cannot be 2 different sizes. The smaller one is obviously not the moon. Watch Astronut come on here and say that it's Venus and it's looks the same like this as it has for years, just watch. (hint: I don't think it's Venus either) Has anyone analyzed both of these videos? The moon is a different size in the two videos, if it is indeed the moon. |
TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States 04/24/2011 08:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK, in this video: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355185[link to www.awi.de] at slides 100-114 do not match the size of the moon in this video: [link to www.awi.de] at slides 118-138 The moon cannot be 2 different sizes. The smaller one is obviously not the moon. Watch Astronut come on here and say that it's Venus and it's looks the same like this as it has for years, just watch. (hint: I don't think it's Venus either) Has anyone analyzed both of these videos? The moon is a different size in the two videos, if it is indeed the moon. Back one page. Notice the reflection beneath the light on slides 118-138. Thread: BROWN DWARF OR COMET? SOUTHPOLE LIVECAM SHOWING SUN LIKE OBJECT PLANET X ??? (Page 2) |
emerald eye Keeping an "eye out" for the truth. User ID: 1161728 United States 04/24/2011 09:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.awi.de] Bump for open-minded discussion. Courage forges a path through all obstacles, while fear is the obstruction of all dreams. The only way that anyone gets something for nothing, is that someone else has given up something for nothing. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1326492 United States 04/24/2011 09:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the sun as viewed thru 4 different cameras this morning: Quoting: deltawavedo you see an additional sun like object or planet X? Do you own an infrared telescope? This object is a "brown dwarf"...meaning it's an un-ignited sun that can't be seen in the visible light spectrum. Where did you hear it 'can't be seen in the visible light spectrum'? They are dim but are actually brighter than Jupiter. From here you find the Brown Dwarf Absolute Magnitude range is from +15 to +20 - [link to en.wikipedia.org] From here you find that Jupiter has an Absolute Magnitude of +26 - [link to books.google.com] Now considering that Jupiter is around the 3rd brightest planet in the solar system, any Brown Dwarf approaching the orbit of Jupiter would quickly be recognized as one of the brightest planets in the system and would be seen visually long before that.... Not true and this is why....... The gravity is strong but the lack of fusion leaves a poor solar wind. This means space dust/debris will cover the star like an egg shell. Right where the weak solar winds keep the debris pushed away but the gravity keeps it pulled in. At this point, because it is very close to the failed star, it creates a dense barrier blocking all visible light. Our Sun has this 'shell' as well but it is blasted way past Pluto, making it ultra thin and practically translucent. This is why a Brown Dwarf needs infra-red detection. Because heat can still pass through the shell. If a brown dwarf came close enough to Earth, we would get bombarded at once by millions of rocks, dust particles, boulders, etc as we pass through the debris shell. Shortly after that we enter the inner region where it is glowing red. Our sun will be hard to see if at all and the sky will turn blood red at day and night. The Moon would be a deep bloody red as well. The abundant iron dust would quickly turn to red rusty dust in our atmosphere. When we leave the inner shell, we get hit again with millions of objects. |
highwic User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/24/2011 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats it for sure There was a Jupiter,Venus,crescent Moon conjunction, 1st Dec 08 Quoting: highwicIn the image following, to the layman it looks like it is from above. But on further investigation it says that the observing site is from Lat 47 deg North which is right as far as Jupiter and Venus are concerned but if you change that to 47 deg South there is no change to the position of Jupiter and Venus. As you will see in photos below there are huge differences between Northern hemisphere and Southern hemisphere positions of the conjunction as viewed from Earth :corrupt conjunct: view from southern hemisphere :Southern Hemisph: view from northern hemisphere :Northern Hemisph: view from Equator :Equator: [link to img29.imageshack.us] Last Edited by highwic on 04/25/2011 05:18 AM |
TBar1984 User ID: 1254186 United States 04/24/2011 10:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | here's the sun as viewed thru 4 different cameras this morning: Quoting: deltawavedo you see an additional sun like object or planet X? Do you own an infrared telescope? This object is a "brown dwarf"...meaning it's an un-ignited sun that can't be seen in the visible light spectrum. Where did you hear it 'can't be seen in the visible light spectrum'? They are dim but are actually brighter than Jupiter. From here you find the Brown Dwarf Absolute Magnitude range is from +15 to +20 - [link to en.wikipedia.org] From here you find that Jupiter has an Absolute Magnitude of +26 - [link to books.google.com] Now considering that Jupiter is around the 3rd brightest planet in the solar system, any Brown Dwarf approaching the orbit of Jupiter would quickly be recognized as one of the brightest planets in the system and would be seen visually long before that.... Not true and this is why....... The gravity is strong but the lack of fusion leaves a poor solar wind. This means space dust/debris will cover the star like an egg shell. Right where the weak solar winds keep the debris pushed away but the gravity keeps it pulled in. At this point, because it is very close to the failed star, it creates a dense barrier blocking all visible light. Our Sun has this 'shell' as well but it is blasted way past Pluto, making it ultra thin and practically translucent. This is why a Brown Dwarf needs infra-red detection. Because heat can still pass through the shell. If a brown dwarf came close enough to Earth, we would get bombarded at once by millions of rocks, dust particles, boulders, etc as we pass through the debris shell. Shortly after that we enter the inner region where it is glowing red. Our sun will be hard to see if at all and the sky will turn blood red at day and night. The Moon would be a deep bloody red as well. The abundant iron dust would quickly turn to red rusty dust in our atmosphere. When we leave the inner shell, we get hit again with millions of objects. Dust will REFLECT the Sun's light even better than the surface of a failed star. I'm not even talking about light emitted from the object but the Reflection from Sunlight. The Coma of a comet is mostly Dust and reflects Sunlight just fine, in fact, Comet Comas have a much BRIGHTER Absolute Magnitude than Brown Dwarfs! What makes you people think that a Brown Dwarf won't reflect light just as any other body? Brown Dwarfs have an Absolute Magnitude, it's here - [link to en.wikipedia.org] You only need to use Infrared if the object is not being illuminated by an external source, such as the Sun. Any Object that approaches the Sun WILL BE ILLUMINATED just as Jupiter with it's dim absolute magnitude of +26. Please explain how ANY object close to the sun will fail to reflect sunlight. |
Khim User ID: 1021731 United States 04/24/2011 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1340884 No kidding.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1355826 United States 04/24/2011 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would really like more people to see this from the South-pole Neumayer "view to the south" web cam on today (4-24-11). Quoting: emerald eye[link to www.awi.de] Bump for open-minded discussion. I saw something on frame #94 |
highwic User ID: 1292228 New Zealand 04/24/2011 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I first saw Wormwood 14 Aug 09, with infrared binoculars in the infrared there is a 2 million mile wide glow around it the only other object up there with a glow around it is Venus because the surface temp of Venus is 900 + deg All other Stars are too far away to see any diference theres plenty of good stuff here [link to www.youtube.com] Last Edited by highwic on 04/24/2011 10:30 PM |
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