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My dad just called my unemployed friend (recent college grad) a loser

 
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I've known this guy since I was 8 years old, he was my best friend all through school, and we took separate paths in college. I went the engineering route and found a job, but he majored in political science for undergrad and got his graduate degree in public admin and has been unemployed for the past year.

He is living with his parents and my dad calls him "pathetic," "a loser," "spoiled," and "weak." It makes me mad because I know this guy is bright and has a passion for that field, but I hate the way people will judge you if you aren't "successful" and going through rough times.

It's not just my father either. Many people look down their nose at you if you aren't rolling in dough and really getting ahead in life. It's like you are inferior if you don't fit the overachiever mold, for whatever reason.

Very sad, and I consider myself to be conservative. I just have empathy for others and am not cold-hearted like so many of these self-righteous types are.

If you are going through similar troubles as my best friend, my prayers are with you.
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alienshipalien03

Aliens like to percieve themselves as being better than others.

Maybe your friend is light spirited and maybe aliens are denying him employment because of their negative auras.

Just because your friend can't find the job that he wants doesn't mean that he isn't trying.
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I've known this guy since I was 8 years old, he was my best friend all through school, and we took separate paths in college. I went the engineering route and found a job, but he majored in political science for undergrad and got his graduate degree in public admin and has been unemployed for the past year.

He is living with his parents and my dad calls him "pathetic," "a loser," "spoiled," and "weak." It makes me mad because I know this guy is bright and has a passion for that field, but I hate the way people will judge you if you aren't "successful" and going through rough times.

It's not just my father either. Many people look down their nose at you if you aren't rolling in dough and really getting ahead in life. It's like you are inferior if you don't fit the overachiever mold, for whatever reason.

Very sad, and I consider myself to be conservative. I just have empathy for others and am not cold-hearted like so many of these self-righteous types are.

If you are going through similar troubles as my best friend, my prayers are with you.
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You should tell your Dad to stop judging others because it demeans him in your eyes. If his ego pauses long enough to listen to you, that will really make him stop and think about what a fucking prick he's acting like.
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Re: My dad just called my unemployed friend (recent college grad) a loser
Yeah, he is a loser.
He should have dominated land.
He should have built a house there.
He should have gotten food by himself.
He should have made female bear a baby.
Otherwise he should have been a homeless man.
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Lemme guess, your friend is part of the most wortless group of Americans this great country has ever seen. That would be the 18 to 35 year olds.
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Wow, I just missed your judgment..I'm 37!!! I have had the same job for 4 years in the same field of work for the last 15 years.
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Re: My dad just called my unemployed friend (recent college grad) a loser
Your dad is right. Your old friend IS a loser. What did he think he could do with those degrees? Become a community organizer like BO?

Now the poor bastard is probably drowning in debt. Sucks to be him.
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Loser OP.
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Your dad, like most older boomers, have no idea how draconian these times are.

If you older folks had to deal with the bullshit the younger folks had to deal with you would never make it either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250261


Blanket statements are just that . . . they cover way too much territory to be reliable truth. Each generation has had its challenges . . . try being drafted into a war you were against on for size.
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I am not angry with boomers. I am only giving m take of the OP's situation. His dad might not know just how bad it is out there.

Being drafted into a war does suck, but other than that it was fairly smooth sailing for the older generations with a few rough spots here and there. You knew you would be making money again.

What we have now is stuff we never saw before. Lack of jobs not because there is no money, but because the money is being invested in China's and India's labor market. We are seeing smart people with degrees having problems with employment that they should not have. I know it's not really the boomer's fault. We need solutions.
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As an older guy, I say:

Stop hating on the younger people. They did nothing to cause the economic mess we are currently in.

Furthermore, young people have very limited opportunities available today. The current shitty job market is not their doing.

So, you older bitter people who are critical of younger people really need to go fuck yourselves.
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As another older guy who is in good shape, +1 thumbs
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Agreed OP.

Although, I wouldn't even say it's the overachiever that people are admiring, I don't think people really care how much you know or have accomplished (hence why your dad thinks your friend's a loser). I believe it's more about how much you own and your possessions... lust and greed.
I'm sure there are many people with loads of material wealth that didn't earn it the honest way. Regardless though, people will look up to them. It's sad really.
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I've known this guy since I was 8 years old, he was my best friend all through school, and we took separate paths in college. I went the engineering route and found a job, but he majored in political science for undergrad and got his graduate degree in public admin and has been unemployed for the past year.

He is living with his parents and my dad calls him "pathetic," "a loser," "spoiled," and "weak." It makes me mad because I know this guy is bright and has a passion for that field, but I hate the way people will judge you if you aren't "successful" and going through rough times.

It's not just my father either. Many people look down their nose at you if you aren't rolling in dough and really getting ahead in life. It's like you are inferior if you don't fit the overachiever mold, for whatever reason.

Very sad, and I consider myself to be conservative. I just have empathy for others and am not cold-hearted like so many of these self-righteous types are.

If you are going through similar troubles as my best friend, my prayers are with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1349056


Ironically, most of the jobs that pay alot are useless or detrimental to society. Lawyer, banker, politician, athlete, actor, model, sales/marketing, advertising, ceo, cfo, insurance, finance, pill pushering mds, pharma, weapons/defense, "adult" industry, etc.

Engineering is one of the few worthy ones. And most of the jobs that are difficult and neccessary and beneficial to society pay little. Caregiving, organic farmer, naturopath or homeopath, mechanics, trades, teachers, service jobs, firemen, garbagemen, etc.
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You're all losers.
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I've known this guy since I was 8 years old, he was my best friend all through school, and we took separate paths in college. I went the engineering route and found a job, but he majored in political science for undergrad and got his graduate degree in public admin and has been unemployed for the past year.

He is living with his parents and my dad calls him "pathetic," "a loser," "spoiled," and "weak." It makes me mad because I know this guy is bright and has a passion for that field, but I hate the way people will judge you if you aren't "successful" and going through rough times.
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It's not just my father either. Many people look down their nose at you if you aren't rolling in dough and really getting ahead in life. It's like you are inferior if you don't fit the overachiever mold, for whatever reason.

Very sad, and I consider myself to be conservative. I just have empathy for others and am not cold-hearted like so many of these self-righteous types are.

If you are going through similar troubles as my best friend, my prayers are with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1349056


Your Dad is very judgemental. Was your Dad hard on you?
Typical behavior of a person that fears he is the same, so they bash out at others. Just because your dad behaves this way, does not make others prejudice.
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The baby boomers have all of the good jobs. Take for example the Post Office. The one in my town employs these geriatrics that work so slow it looks like they are going in reverse. How about shitcan every 2 of them and replace with one of me (28 year old). And BINGO US Post Office saves.
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Your dad, like most older boomers, have no idea how draconian these times are.

If you older folks had to deal with the bullshit the younger folks had to deal with you would never make it either.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250261


Blanket statements are just that . . . they cover way too much territory to be reliable truth. Each generation has had its challenges . . . try being drafted into a war you were against on for size.
 Quoting: George B


I am not angry with boomers. I am only giving m take of the OP's situation. His dad might not know just how bad it is out there.

Being drafted into a war does suck, but other than that it was fairly smooth sailing for the older generations with a few rough spots here and there. You knew you would be making money again.

What we have now is stuff we never saw before. Lack of jobs not because there is no money, but because the money is being invested in China's and India's labor market. We are seeing smart people with degrees having problems with employment that they should not have. I know it's not really the boomer's fault. We need solutions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250261


For the first time in my knowledge there is the fear, real or imaginary, that the future is not as good as the past. Policies of both political parties have contributed to this situation and possibly fate itself. For the first time I agree the future is much more porblematic than what we just survived through. However, people of goodwill have always survived and many cases thrived. Don't give into the fear . . . You are here and you have no other choice . . . Make the best world out of it you can. You may well surprise yourself and create a world way better than we have ever experienced before . . . It is not impossible!
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I've known this guy since I was 8 years old, he was my best friend all through school, and we took separate paths in college. I went the engineering route and found a job, but he majored in political science for undergrad and got his graduate degree in public admin and has been unemployed for the past year.

He is living with his parents and my dad calls him "pathetic," "a loser," "spoiled," and "weak." It makes me mad because I know this guy is bright and has a passion for that field, but I hate the way people will judge you if you aren't "successful" and going through rough times.

It's not just my father either. Many people look down their nose at you if you aren't rolling in dough and really getting ahead in life. It's like you are inferior if you don't fit the overachiever mold, for whatever reason.

Very sad, and I consider myself to be conservative. I just have empathy for others and am not cold-hearted like so many of these self-righteous types are.

If you are going through similar troubles as my best friend, my prayers are with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1349056


Ironically, most of the jobs that pay alot are useless or detrimental to society. Lawyer, banker, politician, athlete, actor, model, sales/marketing, advertising, ceo, cfo, insurance, finance, pill pushering mds, pharma, weapons/defense, "adult" industry, etc.

Engineering is one of the few worthy ones. And most of the jobs that are difficult and neccessary and beneficial to society pay little. Caregiving,
organic farmer, naturopath or homeopath, mechanics, trades, teachers, service jobs, firemen, garbagemen, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1252476

Interesting comment . . . Many have pondered the same thoughts. If we are going into a new era, which seems possible, the very structure of society may well be turned upside down and you could see that beneficial low paying and ignored jobs and professions becoming much, much more important. Some times big challenges create beneficial changes. Don't give up hope. . . The future could be better than the past.
Martin Luther King . . . Our lives begin to end the day we become silent about things that matter!

All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them.
Galileo Galilei, Italian astronomer & physicist (1564 - 1642)

The only thing guaranteed in life is deception. . . everything else is optional . . . George B
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Tell your dad that is "ENOUGH". IF he loves you and respects you he will stop insulting anything related to you or your friends and become a REAL man and a REAL father and support, listen, trust and love you.

UNTIL he can do those things you can give him instant "karma" and tell him that he is and has failed as a father but has a chance to stop being weak and become a successful one.
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I've known this guy since I was 8 years old, he was my best friend all through school, and we took separate paths in college. I went the engineering route and found a job, but he majored in political science for undergrad and got his graduate degree in public admin and has been unemployed for the past year.

He is living with his parents and my dad calls him "pathetic," "a loser," "spoiled," and "weak." It makes me mad because I know this guy is bright and has a passion for that field, but I hate the way people will judge you if you aren't "successful" and going through rough times.

It's not just my father either. Many people look down their nose at you if you aren't rolling in dough and really getting ahead in life. It's like you are inferior if you don't fit the overachiever mold, for whatever reason.

Very sad, and I consider myself to be conservative. I just have empathy for others and am not cold-hearted like so many of these self-righteous types are.

If you are going through similar troubles as my best friend, my prayers are with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1349056


thanks, OP!

Too many people are concerned with the things that don't really matter. Just like the Bible-thumping pseudo Christians who judge you to eternal damnation if you don't conform to their particular viewpoint, those who worship the allmighty dollar behave in a way that is very elitest and condescending, judging based on a superficial system that is vapid at best.

Worship the dollar or be branded a loser. Go into debt to prove to everyone that you're "successful" (when it comes to money, anyway) or your worth as an individual is in question.

Sad how too many people don't understand what life is really all about. I accept your prayers and send mine your way as well, op...
Never tell your problems to anyone...20% don't care and the other 80% are glad you have them.
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He should have dominated land.
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Kingdoms are built on earth that moves

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Your friend must be a liberal. Only a liberal would want to make a lifelong career out of working for the government.

Liberals by definition are losers.
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How many 18-35 yo's have been president? How many are CEO's? How many are senators or congressmen?

A handful? ok... and how many of those are filled flower children? 1,000's...

There is your answer.
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hahahaha - That's what EVERY generation thinks - "When WE take over, things will be better!"
hahahahahaha
dream on
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A real loser calles people losers... If your dad is so damn wonderful... why doesn't he help your friend out.

Your dad is a part of the major problem with this world... PEOPLE DOING FOR SELF




You also might want to give your dad a news paper and show him some youtube vids. He must have been washing his car and missed the damn news about america being in a recession.
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I've known this guy since I was 8 years old, he was my best friend all through school, and we took separate paths in college. I went the engineering route and found a job, but he majored in political science for undergrad and got his graduate degree in public admin and has been unemployed for the past year.

He is living with his parents and my dad calls him "pathetic," "a loser," "spoiled," and "weak." It makes me mad because I know this guy is bright and has a passion for that field, but I hate the way people will judge you if you aren't "successful" and going through rough times.

It's not just my father either. Many people look down their nose at you if you aren't rolling in dough and really getting ahead in life. It's like you are inferior if you don't fit the overachiever mold, for whatever reason.

Very sad, and I consider myself to be conservative. I just have empathy for others and am not cold-hearted like so many of these self-righteous types are.

If you are going through similar troubles as my best friend, my prayers are with you.
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we'll see how wankers like your dad do post shtf

they'll be the ones crouching in the corner, in a fetid pool of their own bodily fluids, rocking back and forth.
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Tell your dad that is "ENOUGH". IF he loves you and respects you he will stop insulting anything related to you or your friends and become a REAL man and a REAL father and support, listen, trust and love you.

UNTIL he can do those things you can give him instant "karma" and tell him that he is and has failed as a father but has a chance to stop being weak and become a successful one.
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DAMN!!!! someone just got TOLD!!!
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quit bumping your own piss poor thread. this thread died 2 days ago. get over it.
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You know what I would do if I was your friend. Simply stop talking to him.

I simply don't engage caustic personalities. Constructive criticism is fine. Offering ideas is fine.

Attaching labels is inappropriate and childish. If not downright abusive. Also another thing I wouldn't tolerate if I was your friend.

Undeserved condescension. Condescending people tend to think they are better than other people, and when they use affix labels to other people to accomplish turning their nose up at other people I simply stop talking to them.

It's my way of reciprocating their condescension without engaging in negativity behaviors like labeling.
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We sent jobs overseas so lets all move to china!! come on lets go!!
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Is it any wonder that satan controls this world? When people, like your dad, say and do things like this. Complete lack of sympathy and understanding. I wonder how people like that will answer, when God asks them what they were thinking, on Judgment Day. May Jesus bless you and your best friend. I hope and pray that your dad changes his ways.
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I've known this guy since I was 8 years old, he was my best friend all through school, and we took separate paths in college. I went the engineering route and found a job, but he majored in political science for undergrad and got his graduate degree in public admin and has been unemployed for the past year.

He is living with his parents and my dad calls him "pathetic," "a loser," "spoiled," and "weak." It makes me mad because I know this guy is bright and has a passion for that field, but I hate the way people will judge you if you aren't "successful" and going through rough times.

It's not just my father either. Many people look down their nose at you if you aren't rolling in dough and really getting ahead in life. It's like you are inferior if you don't fit the overachiever mold, for whatever reason.

Very sad, and I consider myself to be conservative. I just have empathy for others and am not cold-hearted like so many of these self-righteous types are.

If you are going through similar troubles as my best friend, my prayers are with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1349056


Sounds like your dad thinks like a woman.

OH ... and get your facts straight!!

If the guy isn't making tons of money then he is a "WORTHLESS loser", not just a "loser".
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Agreed OP.

Although, I wouldn't even say it's the overachiever that people are admiring, I don't think people really care how much you know or have accomplished (hence why your dad thinks your friend's a loser). I believe it's more about how much you own and your possessions... lust and greed.
I'm sure there are many people with loads of material wealth that didn't earn it the honest way. Regardless though, people will look up to them. It's sad really.
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This.

I have always lived pretty simply. I have a college education

and make about 40,000 a year.

However according to my older brother I am lazy and

unintelligent because I don't own my own home and have gobs

of money.

For example, my mother is downsizing to an apartment and

sending me her china and crystal. My brother actually told

her I should not have it because " she doesn't have

anywhere to display it properly"! I actually have a MASSIVE

double hutch with mirrored back and display lighting but as

he has Never visited my home in his entire life(I am 39, he

is 55) he would not know that.

BTW my brother is the CEO of a giant corporation that takes

over other smaller companies and disseminates them.

I have 2 other brothers with health problems and financial

problems. I have help them both out with a place to stay

or cheque in the mail. They have also helped me out when

they could.

But Mr CEO? No- way. "Its all tied up in investments. Or,

well we just spent 50,000 on the kids prep school in the

states and then we took that trip to Europe, well things

are just to tight for us right now."

Having money and "things" is hardly the measure of a "good

person". Many times it is actually the opposite.


So I am sorry that your friend can't find work, but it may

do him some good in the long run in realizing whats really

important.
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