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My dad just called my unemployed friend (recent college grad) a loser

 
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Not completely. . . .it keeps too many people from entering the work force too soon. Many people are just not mature enough at HS school graduation to perform with the rest of the herd. Also some higher education is useful . . . Nursing, business, engineering, and a few others. It also shows a person is willing to work long hours and meet obligations for a future reward . . . The military services work just as well for the most part. peace
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After high school they can work in a supermarket or fast food or in some other entry level job to give them some work experience. They can then have time to think about what direction they would like to go in. And they can save some money while they live at home as well. College is a very expensive place to go just to find yourself or to keep you out of the workforce so you can mature. And the military is not for everybody.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855

Each person is a work of its own . . . We all mature at different rates . . . I agree college and graduate school are way too expensive to be used to find one self. People make wrong decisions all the time about their future, but find a way to recover . . . The young person on which this thread is based is not uncommon. Some people never find their true passion, they fall into a job or profession and find there are other and better ways to define who they are . . . they work to eat and live to find other ways to enjoy their life through their family, hobbies, church, etc.
 Quoting: George B


This is why it is important for parents to talk to their children about what they are interested in and the type of employment they can get. Many times college is not necessary. But if it is, make sure there is a job waiting for them. If they don't, then they will just have huge bills and end up living at home. A four year degree is not a ticket to a job anymore and neither is a grad degree. But that is what people from decades ago still believe. Times have changed and people need to change with it. They need to help their kids think out of the box as well. But if kids don't go to college then colleges lose money. That is why college is pushed so hard in high school. It is a business and they need warm bodies to keep it going.
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Agreed OP.

Although, I wouldn't even say it's the overachiever that people are admiring, I don't think people really care how much you know or have accomplished (hence why your dad thinks your friend's a loser). I believe it's more about how much you own and your possessions... lust and greed.
I'm sure there are many people with loads of material wealth that didn't earn it the honest way. Regardless though, people will look up to them. It's sad really.
 Quoting: Girl Introspective


This.

I have always lived pretty simply. I have a college education

and make about 40,000 a year.

However according to my older brother I am lazy and

unintelligent because I don't own my own home and have gobs

of money.

For example, my mother is downsizing to an apartment and

sending me her china and crystal. My brother actually told

her I should not have it because " she doesn't have

anywhere to display it properly"! I actually have a MASSIVE

double hutch with mirrored back and display lighting but as

he has Never visited my home in his entire life(I am 39, he

is 55) he would not know that.

BTW my brother is the CEO of a giant corporation that takes

over other smaller companies and disseminates them.

I have 2 other brothers with health problems and financial

problems. I have help them both out with a place to stay

or cheque in the mail. They have also helped me out when

they could.

But Mr CEO? No- way. "Its all tied up in investments. Or,

well we just spent 50,000 on the kids prep school in the

states and then we took that trip to Europe, well things

are just to tight for us right now."

Having money and "things" is hardly the measure of a "good

person". Many times it is actually the opposite.


So I am sorry that your friend can't find work, but it may

do him some good in the long run in realizing whats really

important.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1318338


+1

This is why mental illness is more rampant in the Western World.

Is housing is in a bubble up there right now? When it was in a bubble down here there were people purchasing homes 5X - 10X their yearly salary. I believe it is supposed to be 3X ones yearly salary.
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CTV.ca News Staff

Date: Tue. Apr. 6 2010 10:39 PM ET

Vancouver's super-hot real estate market has hit an expensive milestone, with the average price of a home reaching $1 million for the first time.

More than 1,300 single detached homes were sold in greater Vancouver last month, for a whopping total of $1.35 billion.

That puts the average sale price tag for a home at slightly more than $1 million -- an achievement that the B.C. Real Estate Association says is unprecedented.

"It was the first month ever we saw that price crest a million dollars," said Cameron Muir, the association's chief economist.

The $1-million average includes high-end homes. But the average price for a single, standard detached home in the city reached $800,341, the Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver said Tuesday. That's up from $650,000 a year ago.

The soaring prices have local realtors like Paul Eviston feeling good.

"If you look at our market in the last 12 months, (it's) probably the hottest real estate market in the world," he said.

I think I'll start a thread with this actually. Its just too disgusting.
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Re: My dad just called my unemployed friend (recent college grad) a loser
Agreed OP.

Although, I wouldn't even say it's the overachiever that people are admiring, I don't think people really care how much you know or have accomplished (hence why your dad thinks your friend's a loser). I believe it's more about how much you own and your possessions... lust and greed.
I'm sure there are many people with loads of material wealth that didn't earn it the honest way. Regardless though, people will look up to them. It's sad really.
 Quoting: Girl Introspective


This.

I have always lived pretty simply. I have a college education

and make about 40,000 a year.

However according to my older brother I am lazy and

unintelligent because I don't own my own home and have gobs

of money.

For example, my mother is downsizing to an apartment and

sending me her china and crystal. My brother actually told

her I should not have it because " she doesn't have

anywhere to display it properly"! I actually have a MASSIVE

double hutch with mirrored back and display lighting but as

he has Never visited my home in his entire life(I am 39, he

is 55) he would not know that.

BTW my brother is the CEO of a giant corporation that takes

over other smaller companies and disseminates them.

I have 2 other brothers with health problems and financial

problems. I have help them both out with a place to stay

or cheque in the mail. They have also helped me out when

they could.

But Mr CEO? No- way. "Its all tied up in investments. Or,

well we just spent 50,000 on the kids prep school in the

states and then we took that trip to Europe, well things

are just to tight for us right now."

Having money and "things" is hardly the measure of a "good

person". Many times it is actually the opposite.

So I am sorry that your friend can't find work, but it may

do him some good in the long run in realizing whats really

important.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1318338

Funny, it seems the more people have the more they think they need . . . Why I don't know. It is good that you are concerned for your family even if your brother can't . . . I had the same situation with my brother . . . He had the first dollar he ever made . . . But wouldn't help my parents with anything . . . My wife and I were alone anytime resources were ever needed. You are a good person . . . Your brother will regret his decisions some day. peace
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CTV.ca News Staff

Date: Tue. Apr. 6 2010 10:39 PM ET

Vancouver's super-hot real estate market has hit an expensive milestone, with the average price of a home reaching $1 million for the first time.

More than 1,300 single detached homes were sold in greater Vancouver last month, for a whopping total of $1.35 billion.

That puts the average sale price tag for a home at slightly more than $1 million -- an achievement that the B.C. Real Estate Association says is unprecedented.

"It was the first month ever we saw that price crest a million dollars," said Cameron Muir, the association's chief economist.

The $1-million average includes high-end homes. But the average price for a single, standard detached home in the city reached $800,341, the Real Estate Board of Greater Vancouver said Tuesday. That's up from $650,000 a year ago.

The soaring prices have local realtors like Paul Eviston feeling good.

"If you look at our market in the last 12 months, (it's) probably the hottest real estate market in the world," he said.

I think I'll start a thread with this actually. Its just too disgusting.
 Quoting: DoomisTardy


Wow, looks like Vancouver is being set up for a fall. That can't be sustained. I would sell and rent for now and not get stuck in homes like many people in the US are.
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Agreed OP.

Although, I wouldn't even say it's the overachiever that people are admiring, I don't think people really care how much you know or have accomplished (hence why your dad thinks your friend's a loser). I believe it's more about how much you own and your possessions... lust and greed.
I'm sure there are many people with loads of material wealth that didn't earn it the honest way. Regardless though, people will look up to them. It's sad really.
 Quoting: Girl Introspective


This.

I have always lived pretty simply. I have a college education

and make about 40,000 a year.

However according to my older brother I am lazy and

unintelligent because I don't own my own home and have gobs

of money.

For example, my mother is downsizing to an apartment and

sending me her china and crystal. My brother actually told

her I should not have it because " she doesn't have

anywhere to display it properly"! I actually have a MASSIVE

double hutch with mirrored back and display lighting but as

he has Never visited my home in his entire life(I am 39, he

is 55) he would not know that.

BTW my brother is the CEO of a giant corporation that takes

over other smaller companies and disseminates them.

I have 2 other brothers with health problems and financial

problems. I have help them both out with a place to stay

or cheque in the mail. They have also helped me out when

they could.

But Mr CEO? No- way. "Its all tied up in investments. Or,

well we just spent 50,000 on the kids prep school in the

states and then we took that trip to Europe, well things

are just to tight for us right now."

Having money and "things" is hardly the measure of a "good

person". Many times it is actually the opposite.


So I am sorry that your friend can't find work, but it may

do him some good in the long run in realizing whats really

important.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1318338


+1

This is why mental illness is more rampant in the Western World.

Is housing is in a bubble up there right now? When it was in a bubble down here there were people purchasing homes 5X - 10X their yearly salary. I believe it is supposed to be 3X ones yearly salary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250261


When people realize that money and things no longer make them happy they get stuck and depressed and start taking meds. The poor can end up like this as well always striving after things outside of themselves. When happiness is based on what is outside of yourself you will always be unhappy and then turn to drugs(legal and illegal ones) to deaden oneself. People were meant to do things for others. and to take the focus off of themselves That is where real happiness lies. Service to others. There really is more happiness in giving that receiving.
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Once these fucking baby boomers hit their 70s it will be a whole new fucking paradigm.

You think the younger generations are gonna step up and take care of them with their righteous attitudes??
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OP are you gay? No offense buddy but you care about your old friend a little too much. Not that there's anything wrong with that of course.
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Re: My dad just called my unemployed friend (recent college grad) a loser
I didn't read all the comments & this is for OP original post.

I choose a career that didn't make me rich, but it did pay the bills. My clients were jealous that I enjoyed work so much. I looked forward to going to work. I know absurd, but I also refused to work obscene hours just to make some extra cash. I actually had one client tell me they wish they could live life like me, but they were to scared to give up their luxuries. That I find absurd. Don't buy into the bs that you need money, cars, or houses to be happy.

On the other hand I worked at a job I hated so I could put myself through school. I worked full time, took classes on nights & weekends, & paid for it without loans. The reason your dad is calling your friend lazy is because if you don't get the job you want, you take the job you get. It doesn't mean your friend would be stuck, but he needs to get a job while he's starting a career.
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Re: My dad just called my unemployed friend (recent college grad) a loser
Lemme guess, your friend is part of the most wortless group of Americans this great country has ever seen. That would be the 18 to 35 year olds.
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Actually it would be whatever group you are in, asshole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 769657


No he's right. The truth hurts huh?

This group of people have literally done nothing. They are spoiled, weak, and generally pathetic losers. It's the gimme generation. They want everything, but don't want to work for it. Most of this age group still live at home...

TRUTH
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Once these fucking baby boomers hit their 70s it will be a whole new fucking paradigm.

You think the younger generations are gonna step up and take care of them with their righteous attitudes??
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The asshole who made the post above ours disagrees.
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Agreed OP.

Although, I wouldn't even say it's the overachiever that people are admiring, I don't think people really care how much you know or have accomplished (hence why your dad thinks your friend's a loser). I believe it's more about how much you own and your possessions... lust and greed.
I'm sure there are many people with loads of material wealth that didn't earn it the honest way. Regardless though, people will look up to them. It's sad really.
 Quoting: Girl Introspective


This.

I have always lived pretty simply. I have a college education

and make about 40,000 a year.

However according to my older brother I am lazy and

unintelligent because I don't own my own home and have gobs

of money.

For example, my mother is downsizing to an apartment and

sending me her china and crystal. My brother actually told

her I should not have it because " she doesn't have

anywhere to display it properly"! I actually have a MASSIVE

double hutch with mirrored back and display lighting but as

he has Never visited my home in his entire life(I am 39, he

is 55) he would not know that.

BTW my brother is the CEO of a giant corporation that takes

over other smaller companies and disseminates them.

I have 2 other brothers with health problems and financial

problems. I have help them both out with a place to stay

or cheque in the mail. They have also helped me out when

they could.

But Mr CEO? No- way. "Its all tied up in investments. Or,

well we just spent 50,000 on the kids prep school in the

states and then we took that trip to Europe, well things

are just to tight for us right now."

Having money and "things" is hardly the measure of a "good

person". Many times it is actually the opposite.


So I am sorry that your friend can't find work, but it may

do him some good in the long run in realizing whats really

important.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1318338


+1

This is why mental illness is more rampant in the Western World.

Is housing is in a bubble up there right now? When it was in a bubble down here there were people purchasing homes 5X - 10X their yearly salary. I believe it is supposed to be 3X ones yearly salary.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1250261


When people realize that money and things no longer make them happy they get stuck and depressed and start taking meds. The poor can end up like this as well always striving after things outside of themselves. When happiness is based on what is outside of yourself you will always be unhappy and then turn to drugs(legal and illegal ones) to deaden oneself. People were meant to do things for others. and to take the focus off of themselves That is where real happiness lies. Service to others. There really is more happiness in giving that receiving.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1317855


There is so much that happens where we have zero control. The problem is the ones who blame people who cannot find work for the jobs not being there, and that has a deep mental effect on people.
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Re: My dad just called my unemployed friend (recent college grad) a loser
So just read your post.... Your dad seems to be on to something here. It sounds like you had an issue with your dad calling your friend a loser for not having a job. I wish my dad was the same. Your dad is basically saying to you that you made some good decisions and that you are on your way (house, wife, nice car, children of your own one day, etc) and your "loser' friend is going to struggle to attain some of the nicer things life has to offer. I think your dad is right to say that. My dad on the other hand calls me a pathetic, low-life, mainly because my dad reads male romance novels, watchs Frasier on tv and wants me to hang out with him like we're best buddies. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way dad. You have your son until he's 18 then he needs to go out into the world and try to make something of himself, career, family, etc. I'm a 30 year old CPA and worked my ass off 60+ hours a week. I'm unemployed now and I think due to the fact that my dad tells me I worked with a bunch of lilly white accounting snobs. It's tought to work a lot when you start to hate the people you work with everyday. I have a dad that sticks up for guys like your unemployed friend and trashs guys like me who try very hard to have their shit together. My dad was adopted and never got over it and is a jealous narcissistic piece of shit BUT my mom will say he MEANS WELL. LOL, okay, who doesn't mean well? Anyway be thankful that your dad is supportive of you and is proud that you have a job.
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You're both already dead and you don't know it.
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^ None of those things are real. You are spirit energy existing in electromagnetic form.
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Your dad was wrong calling him a looser, no one should be called a looser. Respect others keep quite even if he thinks the guy is one, keep it to yourself.
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Your Dad is just another worthless piece of shit. Theres no point in listening to his views. Love him if you can but dont think that hes got any wisdom or any real awareness becasue i assure you he doesnt.

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