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"""WHY IS THIS THE LAST SHUTTLE MISSION, DO WE HAVE NO REASON LEFT TO GO INTO SPACE??"""" | |
Comedian  User ID: 1347355  United States04/26/2011 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Besides, the space program was based in Texas, and Texans don't like Whatshisname. Next question. Don't run. You'll just die tired. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1357842  Canada04/26/2011 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No flames from the thrusters. One has to wonder if the fuel even ignited. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1357842Also why does the lander blast-off with the same speed through-out and not slowly build up the speed like when Rockets blast-off from earth slowly building momentum but at a 1/6 ratio? -- "I think you had good thrust!" (00:24) Right chart with specifics: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Click fuels: liquid Hydrogen [link to en.wikipedia.org] liquid Oxygen [link to en.wikipedia.org] ---------- The lunar thrusters would have shown flames because there was oxygen present, so they say! Liar. The lunar lander did not use hydrogen or oxygen for fuel. It used Aerozine 50, which is colorless and transparent when burning in a vacuum. The upper stage of Delta-II rockets also use this fuel. Are you claiming this rocket was a hoax too? [link to science.ksc.nasa.gov] Click on the link, give it a try. Right chart with specifics: [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Tetra User ID: 1357787  Germany04/26/2011 02:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: TetraWikipedia. lol  Wow, you really want to play this game? This is not one of those cases where wikipedia has been vandalized or is hosting bad info, it's true, STS-135 is going to fly unless something changes, such as if Atlantis needed to be used for sts-335. Man, I'm not the one who's acting stupidly here. [link to www.nasa.gov] Still Even more for the ridicilous act of trying to prove yourself. I never stated that your comment wasn't correct. I simply don't like you.  Wow, could you be more transparent there troll? Thanks for at least being honest. I try to always be honest - so don't worry about that my dear. I believe you're a shill and saw many false statements coming from your side. That's why I simply can't stand reading your crap and whenever I feel like it, I'll leave a comment. I know it's not the best way of handling such a situation but sometimes I just can't help myself - just like today. Hopefully that's transparent enough. |
Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1357690 United States04/26/2011 03:41 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liar. The lunar lander did not use hydrogen or oxygen for fuel. It used Aerozine 50, which is colorless and transparent when burning in a vacuum. The upper stage of Delta-II rockets also use this fuel. Are you claiming this rocket was a hoax too? Quoting: Astronut[link to science.ksc.nasa.gov] Click on the link, give it a try. Right chart with specifics: [link to en.wikipedia.org] The lunar lander is not a saturn v nor did it use the same kind of fuel as a saturn v. I don't buy for a minute that you're too stupid to realize this, so why are you lying? Just here to troll perhaps?  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1357979 United States04/26/2011 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1358074  Ireland04/26/2011 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am definately not an expert on our Space Program, but it seems very suspicious that we are now getting confirmation of Alien Life, The World is going to shit, America is going to shit, and we are conducting the LAST space Mission. Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR it isnt the last one, ye prick. Atlantis? June??? Jesus wept. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1357842 Canada04/26/2011 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liar. The lunar lander did not use hydrogen or oxygen for fuel. It used Aerozine 50, which is colorless and transparent when burning in a vacuum. The upper stage of Delta-II rockets also use this fuel. Are you claiming this rocket was a hoax too? Quoting: Astronut[link to science.ksc.nasa.gov] Click on the link, give it a try. Right chart with specifics: [link to en.wikipedia.org] The lunar lander is not a saturn v nor did it use the same kind of fuel as a saturn v. I don't buy for a minute that you're too stupid to realize this, so why are you lying? Just here to troll perhaps? Then try this one, you'll love the Happy surprise! [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Bogusdude User ID: 1345991  United Kingdom04/26/2011 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AstronutThe Saturn V was more powerful than any rocket currently flown. In terms of raw power and capacity, it was superior to the shuttle. It also never suffered a catastrophic failure during launch, but it was more expensive to operate and was strictly a one time use only vehicle. You're a funny guy Astronut. Instead of complimenting science that modern tech is superior you're complimenting science that after decades of trying to surpass the "ancient tech" NASA is now regressing back to the past. SATURN V was another Walt Disney Production: This launch scene is a Hollywood staged theatrics of the SATURN V. See all the debris? See the cables falling? Chucks after chunks of who knows what that stuff was. This was done solely to make it seem like its an absolute and incredible feat as science and their 'men in white' become defiant of natural heavenly laws and attain the unattainable as they sever the chains that have enslaved humanity that bound the human-race to walk the surface of the earth never realizing our first and primary desire to access heaven since the ancient days of Babel tower and freeing us as all 'HELL BREAKS LOOSE' HUGE chunk of ICE falling at 1:59 maker -- brrrrrr! Its cold at launch pad. The Great U. S. A. at the 2:07 marker -- Hollywood is good! The proof the above clip was taped separately from the Public launch on July 16 1969 is at the 1:11 marker -- Gotta luv those numbers, ha ha ha! The ground camera on the launch pad is completely unobstructed from the smoke of the nozzles as the Rocket is clearly seen lifting, or of its INTENSE heat, flames, fire and brimstone, ha ha ha! Here's how it really looked on July 16 1969 FIRST 'SECOND' THAT CAMERA WOULD HAVE BEEN A BLUR -- THEN 'TOAST' My favorite scene in the Walt Disney theatrical launch of SATURN V is at the 01:48 marker, it captivated me when the tower supports retracted and cleared the Rocket for some odd reason. Great job NASA, thanks for the memories! SATURN V was not even an American Product, it was in effect a German rocket, invented by NAZI rocket scientists and built by NAZI rockets Scientists. America did not put a man on the Moon, the Germans did. Wernher von Braun put a man on the Moon, and he was NAZI SS, deliberately surrendered to the Americans before the Russians could grab him, at the end of WW2. Everyone knows you can't trust a NAZI -- no man on the moon! And everyone knows you can't trust Walt Disney [link to img705.imageshack.us] That's SS Sturmbannführer Wernher von Braun and Walt Disney having a nice little photo shoot. "There is a mill which grinds by itself, swings of itself, and scatters the dust a hundred versts away. And there is a golden pole with a golden cage on top which is also the Nail of the North. And there is a very wise tomcat which climbs up and down this pole. When he climbs down, he sings songs, and when he climbs up, he tells tales." Legend of the Ostyaks of the Siberian Irtysh River Vally. |
| Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1357690 United States04/26/2011 04:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liar. The lunar lander did not use hydrogen or oxygen for fuel. It used Aerozine 50, which is colorless and transparent when burning in a vacuum. The upper stage of Delta-II rockets also use this fuel. Are you claiming this rocket was a hoax too? Quoting: Astronut[link to science.ksc.nasa.gov] Click on the link, give it a try. Right chart with specifics: [link to en.wikipedia.org] The lunar lander is not a saturn v nor did it use the same kind of fuel as a saturn v. I don't buy for a minute that you're too stupid to realize this, so why are you lying? Just here to troll perhaps? Then try this one, you'll love the Happy surprise! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yup, it says it right there. Ascent stage, aerozine 50/nitrogen tetraoxide. Thanks for proving me right. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1357842 Canada04/26/2011 04:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1357842 The lunar lander is not a saturn v nor did it use the same kind of fuel as a saturn v. I don't buy for a minute that you're too stupid to realize this, so why are you lying? Just here to troll perhaps? Then try this one, you'll love the Happy surprise! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yup, it says it right there. Ascent stage, aerozine 50/nitrogen tetraoxide. Thanks for proving me right. What's the freezing point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the boiling point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the temperature on the moon? |
| Bogusdude User ID: 1345991 United Kingdom04/26/2011 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AstronutThe lunar lander is not a saturn v nor did it use the same kind of fuel as a saturn v. I don't buy for a minute that you're too stupid to realize this, so why are you lying? Just here to troll perhaps? Then try this one, you'll love the Happy surprise! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yup, it says it right there. Ascent stage, aerozine 50/nitrogen tetraoxide. Thanks for proving me right. What's the freezing point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the boiling point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the temperature on the moon? Well, if we are going to venture down the temperature route can I ask why this photo, in a plastic bag, did not instantly curl up, Its in direct sunlight, with no atmosphere and placed on the surface. [link to img585.imageshack.us] There is probably a very simple explanation as to why it was not instantly fried, so feel free to tell me :) "There is a mill which grinds by itself, swings of itself, and scatters the dust a hundred versts away. And there is a golden pole with a golden cage on top which is also the Nail of the North. And there is a very wise tomcat which climbs up and down this pole. When he climbs down, he sings songs, and when he climbs up, he tells tales." Legend of the Ostyaks of the Siberian Irtysh River Vally. |
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| Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 1357690 United States04/26/2011 05:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's the freezing point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135784What's the boiling point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the temperature on the moon? Temperature of the moon is irrelevant. What matters is the temperature of the fuel tanks which is dictated by the reflectivity and thermal properties of the spacecraft itself. The landing struts, being rather long and well insulated, do not tend to transfer much heat from the moon's surface to the rest of the vehicle. By the same token, a plastic bag does not instantly melt while held by an astronaut standing on the moon because the vacuum acts as an insulator and there is no transfer of heat from the moon's surface to the bag by way of convection because there is no air. Now, my questions for you: What temperature does the exterior skin of the international space station reach when it is on the daytime side of earth? What temperature does the exterior skin of the international space station reach when it is on the night side of earth? What are the freezing and boiling points of the unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine fuel used by ISS? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1357842 Canada04/26/2011 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's the freezing point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135784What's the boiling point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the temperature on the moon? Temperature of the moon is irrelevant. What matters is the temperature of the fuel tanks which is dictated by the reflectivity and thermal properties of the spacecraft itself. The landing struts, being rather long and well insulated, do not tend to transfer much heat from the moon's surface to the rest of the vehicle. By the same token, a plastic bag does not instantly melt while held by an astronaut standing on the moon because the vacuum acts as an insulator and there is no transfer of heat from the moon's surface to the bag by way of convection because there is no air. Now, my questions for you: What temperature does the exterior skin of the international space station reach when it is on the daytime side of earth? What temperature does the exterior skin of the international space station reach when it is on the night side of earth? What are the freezing and boiling points of the unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine fuel used by ISS? The sun's heat would boil the fuel exploding its tank. The Lunar tank would have to be equipped with a heater during the night time and coolant system during the daytime. Insulation would do minimally nothing just like insulation does minimally nothing for people who wrap themselves in hot weather. Yeah it may help for sunburn but you're still hot. Insulation alone won't do the job just like it doesn't do the job for a house in the middle of a cold winter if you have nothing heating the house inside. Leave all thermostats off and see how fast the temperature of the house drops to almost equal the temperature outside minus wind factors which there's none of on the Moon. As for your questions, there is no ISS |
| Bogusdude User ID: 1345991 United Kingdom04/26/2011 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's the freezing point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135784What's the boiling point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the temperature on the moon? Temperature of the moon is irrelevant. What matters is the temperature of the fuel tanks which is dictated by the reflectivity and thermal properties of the spacecraft itself. The landing struts, being rather long and well insulated, do not tend to transfer much heat from the moon's surface to the rest of the vehicle. By the same token, a plastic bag does not instantly melt while held by an astronaut standing on the moon because the vacuum acts as an insulator and there is no transfer of heat from the moon's surface to the bag by way of convection because there is no air. Now, my questions for you: What temperature does the exterior skin of the international space station reach when it is on the daytime side of earth? What temperature does the exterior skin of the international space station reach when it is on the night side of earth? What are the freezing and boiling points of the unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine fuel used by ISS? The landing struts, being rather long and well insulated, do not tend to transfer much heat from the moon's surface to the rest of the vehicle. Please define - Much because later you state that NO heat is transfered to the bag, even though it is on the lunar surface, jast as the landing struts are. And what about the Sun, bag is in direct sunlight, with no atmosphere, thats enough to fry it without temp transfer from the moons surface as well I do tend to agree about the fuel temps though, I think the fuel can be safely kept from heating. Its just that bloody photo is bugging me :) "There is a mill which grinds by itself, swings of itself, and scatters the dust a hundred versts away. And there is a golden pole with a golden cage on top which is also the Nail of the North. And there is a very wise tomcat which climbs up and down this pole. When he climbs down, he sings songs, and when he climbs up, he tells tales." Legend of the Ostyaks of the Siberian Irtysh River Vally. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1357842 Canada04/26/2011 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What's the freezing point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135784What's the boiling point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the temperature on the moon? Temperature of the moon is irrelevant. What matters is the temperature of the fuel tanks which is dictated by the reflectivity and thermal properties of the spacecraft itself. The landing struts, being rather long and well insulated, do not tend to transfer much heat from the moon's surface to the rest of the vehicle. By the same token, a plastic bag does not instantly melt while held by an astronaut standing on the moon because the vacuum acts as an insulator and there is no transfer of heat from the moon's surface to the bag by way of convection because there is no air. Now, my questions for you: What temperature does the exterior skin of the international space station reach when it is on the daytime side of earth? What temperature does the exterior skin of the international space station reach when it is on the night side of earth? What are the freezing and boiling points of the unsymmetrical dimethylhydrazine fuel used by ISS? The sun's heat would boil the fuel exploding its tank. The Lunar tank would have to be equipped with a heater during the night time and coolant system during the daytime. Insulation would do minimally nothing just like insulation does minimally nothing for people who wrap themselves in hot weather. Yeah it may help for sunburn but you're still hot. Insulation alone won't do the job just like it doesn't do the job for a house in the middle of a cold winter if you have nothing heating the house inside. Leave all thermostats off and see how fast the temperature of the house drops to almost equal the temperature outside minus wind factors which there's none of on the Moon. As for your questions, there is no ISS Answer my questions: What's the freezing point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the boiling point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the temperature on the moon? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1208705 United States04/26/2011 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1357842 The lunar lander is not a saturn v nor did it use the same kind of fuel as a saturn v. I don't buy for a minute that you're too stupid to realize this, so why are you lying? Just here to troll perhaps? Then try this one, you'll love the Happy surprise! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yup, it says it right there. Ascent stage, aerozine 50/nitrogen tetraoxide. Thanks for proving me right. Didn't the Titan II use the same fuel? That sure put out a lot of fumes. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1357842 Canada04/26/2011 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: AstronutThe lunar lander is not a saturn v nor did it use the same kind of fuel as a saturn v. I don't buy for a minute that you're too stupid to realize this, so why are you lying? Just here to troll perhaps? Then try this one, you'll love the Happy surprise! [link to en.wikipedia.org] Yup, it says it right there. Ascent stage, aerozine 50/nitrogen tetraoxide. Thanks for proving me right. Didn't the Titan II use the same fuel? That sure put out a lot of fumes. Excellent catch. [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
| Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States04/27/2011 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Didn't the Titan II use the same fuel? That sure put out a lot of fumes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1208705In the atmosphere it did, but it burns at steady state transparently in vacuum as the above video shows during the upper stage firing. |
| Astronut Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States04/27/2011 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Liar. The lunar lander did not use hydrogen or oxygen for fuel. It used Aerozine 50, which is colorless and transparent when burning in a vacuum. The upper stage of Delta-II rockets also use this fuel. Are you claiming this rocket was a hoax too? Quoting: Astronut[link to science.ksc.nasa.gov] Excellent catch. [link to en.wikipedia.org] You're Punisher, aren't you? I guess I need to learn your new IP id. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1355393 United States04/27/2011 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love how the shills ran quickly in here to say "oh they are shutting it down because they have such bigger and better ways to get into space now". Oh yeah what? The TR-3B perhaps? They are so not gonna admit to that. Yet there hasnt been any talk on tv about using these other methods to get into space. If they had better vehicles for this they would never be a sense of "end" like we are getting now but rather the program would just have simply evolved through the years to include the new stuff and they would just shelve the shuttles and put em in a museum. Did we end the Navy when we made our first submarine or stopped making destroyer escorts? Something is up folks.. |
| Twogun31 User ID: 1254305 United States04/27/2011 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am definately not an expert on our Space Program, but it seems very suspicious that we are now getting confirmation of Alien Life, The World is going to shit, America is going to shit, and we are conducting the LAST space Mission. Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIRWe don't need them anymore. The tech they have now and have had for years (my guess is 30 years) is now ready to be released to the public or hidden and the missions will still continue. The shuttles are a smokescreen. We're all crazy here. -Alice in Wonderland -The Cat |
| Twogun31 User ID: 1254305 United States04/27/2011 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love how the shills ran quickly in here to say "oh they are shutting it down because they have such bigger and better ways to get into space now". Oh yeah what? The TR-3B perhaps? They are so not gonna admit to that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1355393Yet there hasnt been any talk on tv about using these other methods to get into space. If they had better vehicles for this they would never be a sense of "end" like we are getting now but rather the program would just have simply evolved through the years to include the new stuff and they would just shelve the shuttles and put em in a museum. Did we end the Navy when we made our first submarine or stopped making destroyer escorts? Something is up folks.. Agreed. We're all crazy here. -Alice in Wonderland -The Cat |
| MG-42 User ID: 781280 Canada04/27/2011 01:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The debris from these objects pose a risk. They could puncture the shuttle/ISS/Satellites etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1323931We will see if Ed Dames is correct. No New World Order, only a New World of Brotherhood and Unity. 'The workers have to rebel against their masters, and to become masters of themselves. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains' Education is a RIGHT, NOT a privilege No one deserves privileges, we ALL deserve rights! A privilege means that some one is better than you. Which is NOT CORRECT. We ALL breath the same air, we ALL share the same Earth. ONLY Brotherhood and Unity We ALL bleed RED. Thread: The real facts about your leaders / The Fascist NWO agenda Thread: NATO funded neo-Nazi's during Yugoslav Civil War/breakup of Yugoslavia Thread: NATO symbol is the Swastika/National Socialist Empire Thread: the Doppler Effect, the spirals, and Nibiru |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1155273 United States04/27/2011 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1357842 Yup, it says it right there. Ascent stage, aerozine 50/nitrogen tetraoxide. Thanks for proving me right. What's the freezing point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the boiling point of N2O4/Aerozine-50? What's the temperature on the moon? Well, if we are going to venture down the temperature route can I ask why this photo, in a plastic bag, did not instantly curl up, Its in direct sunlight, with no atmosphere and placed on the surface. [link to img585.imageshack.us] There is probably a very simple explanation as to why it was not instantly fried, so feel free to tell me :) Because that is not the moon. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1358809 Australia04/27/2011 02:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | theyre going , as in secret nasa . their is no reson for you to know about it, plenty reasons to keep you in the dark on how and the farce with that antiquated bucket they call a shuttle has become expensive and tiresome |
