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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 969156  United States04/26/2011 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i would move if i could people Quoting: NiNzrezbut moving anywhere costs money and its not just me i have kids and family that have always been there for me, so i would never leave them to try to survive here my themselves my family an i were in a house explosion a few years ago and that took us all back down to square one since then we have worked as one unit to survive one does one thing while another does another we bust our asses working what jobs we can get and spend everything we make on bills and food we work hard to survive and a savings account is a thing of the past i think of this each time i read someone on a volcano thread say something like "why don't those people just move?" it sounds way easier than it is to actually do so we have accepted that this is where we live and learned to survive here the best we can and we constantly try to learn new survival methods. We do joke around with one another and say that at least when TSHTF we will be 5 steps ahead of everyone and will not miss the luxuries of modern life as much as most. In fact, a SHTF scenario would be welcomed at times, because then i would be able to go cut down that tree down the road and burn it in the fire place to keep warn, and not be stuck paying whatever the electric company decides to say we owe or loose heat. Thank you everyone for the sweet offers to move where you live. it is a very nice gesture to see :) Have you considered "transitioning" out of Flint with your entire family? You could send one or two members to work on a farm somewhere that provides them with room, board and a small amount of money. (wwoofer) They save up some money, get a place in a small town. Two more people work on a farm in the area, and two people join the first set in a new business. You could start a cleaning company with very little capital and within a year, everyone would be out. There are other farms which would allow your entire family to stay there. There are still many very inexpensive places to live. Kansas is GIVING AWAY land if you will move there. There are also extremely inexpensive houses to buy in the midwest, like less than $20,000. Here is a place with a well, a mobile and and three acres, asking $25,000. [link to www.landsofmissouri.com] With $700 down, your payments would be a $145 a month. You could EASILY earn that picking up free shit from people and then selling it on craigslist and ebay. That is enough land for chickens (which I am sure GLP'ers would donate), a garden and even a milk goat. I dare say that if you are barely making it now, you're just one speed bump away from disaster. All it would take is a dental problem or serious illness. You need to be out of the urban areas. |
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| zacksavage User ID: 770046 United States04/26/2011 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i would move if i could people Quoting: NiNzrezbut moving anywhere costs money and its not just me i have kids and family that have always been there for me, so i would never leave them to try to survive here my themselves my family an i were in a house explosion a few years ago and that took us all back down to square one since then we have worked as one unit to survive one does one thing while another does another we bust our asses working what jobs we can get and spend everything we make on bills and food we work hard to survive and a savings account is a thing of the past i think of this each time i read someone on a volcano thread say something like "why don't those people just move?" it sounds way easier than it is to actually do so we have accepted that this is where we live and learned to survive here the best we can and we constantly try to learn new survival methods. We do joke around with one another and say that at least when TSHTF we will be 5 steps ahead of everyone and will not miss the luxuries of modern life as much as most. In fact, a SHTF scenario would be welcomed at times, because then i would be able to go cut down that tree down the road and burn it in the fire place to keep warn, and not be stuck paying whatever the electric company decides to say we owe or loose heat. Thank you everyone for the sweet offers to move where you live. it is a very nice gesture to see :) Have you considered "transitioning" out of Flint with your entire family? You could send one or two members to work on a farm somewhere that provides them with room, board and a small amount of money. (wwoofer) They save up some money, get a place in a small town. Two more people work on a farm in the area, and two people join the first set in a new business. You could start a cleaning company with very little capital and within a year, everyone would be out. There are other farms which would allow your entire family to stay there. There are still many very inexpensive places to live. Kansas is GIVING AWAY land if you will move there. There are also extremely inexpensive houses to buy in the midwest, like less than $20,000. Here is a place with a well, a mobile and and three acres, asking $25,000. [link to www.landsofmissouri.com] With $700 down, your payments would be a $145 a month. You could EASILY earn that picking up free shit from people and then selling it on craigslist and ebay. That is enough land for chickens (which I am sure GLP'ers would donate), a garden and even a milk goat. I dare say that if you are barely making it now, you're just one speed bump away from disaster. All it would take is a dental problem or serious illness. You need to be out of the urban areas. I bet there are many options. Unfortunately,...people are conditioned to think they have no choices or options in life. Money rules the head/mind/body. It is my experience that synchronicities abound when one follows concrete intention with direct action,... This is the time to create your own reality,...imo. Z Free your mind,...your ass will follow. --- parliament funkadelic |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1351015 United States04/26/2011 06:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this is the perfect situation to be a batman like character cops are stupid coward uniform wearing pussies that write tickets anyway egypt proved you don;t need the fat pigs that protect the rich 's stuff you see what happens. the pigs leave the non rich to their fate so i say batman |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1357986 United States04/26/2011 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pure stupidity of the US citizens! Blacks are only 15% of the population yet we've LET them destroy all of our cities because of some idiotic "GUILT" from the past that our generation had NOTHING to do with. No other race in this country has done this to us. Other races have all contributed to society, NOT destroyed everything they touch. We've let this happen. And have even contributed to it. Period! edit to say I don't give a crap what name you call me! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 877618 United States04/26/2011 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1358305 United States04/26/2011 06:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | reminds me of the unruly mole people neath the city streets of new york. Having a labrynthine lair that rumours tell go 18 stories deep, a mayor, a circulating zine, their own pernicious calendar, and sordid paranormal powers, i forsee a war between the surface diurnal and abysmal regressed lurkers. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 877618Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and take your scrips. No really. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1344630 United States04/26/2011 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1344630 United States04/26/2011 06:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pure stupidity of the US citizens! Blacks are only 15% of the population yet we've LET them destroy all of our cities because of some idiotic "GUILT" from the past that our generation had NOTHING to do with. No other race in this country has done this to us. Other races have all contributed to society, NOT destroyed everything they touch. Quoting: kat38We've let this happen. And have even contributed to it. Period! edit to say I don't give a crap what name you call me! I sense you a very unbalanced person.The hatred in what you write comes out loud and clear.It will slow you awakening greatly.The grouping of humans is not of the creator.Perhaps if there where no wars,there would be no poverty,hence no crime.Poverty breeds crime.And btw,My brother who is one you hate,Helped change to elderly abuse laws in NYC.Elderly as in all old people who are suffering from various illnesses and issues. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1358319  United Kingdom04/26/2011 06:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Epic Beard Guy User ID: 1079209 United States04/26/2011 07:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome to the socialist utopia. This is what happens when the government trys to do everything for everyone. This is an excellent example of why socialism doesn't work. When most of the people realize that sitting on their butts pays as well as working, nobody works. Everyone sits on their asses and collects welfare. That leaves nobody to pay the bills. To make matters worse, the socialists that run the show will cut police and fire protection instead of entitlements because they figure they have a better chance of wringing more money out of the system if they can prove that lack of funds is making it unsafe to live their. They never consider that the may have used up all the available money. Unfortunately, the whole country is already well down the same path. You city is just the tip of the iceberg. Barry and the O-bots will have the whle county looking just like that soon enough. Hope for the best, but prepare for the worst. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe |
| The Voice In Your Head User ID: 1282802 United States04/26/2011 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | NiNzrez.... I feel for you and every decent person in that city. And for the members of the "city council" (what a god damned joke....if they were representatives of the good people of the city, they'd take action and do whatever it takes to fund the police department) to try to pass it off as "it's getting better!" is criminal negligence at it's finest. Out of curiosity, and if you happen to be able to find the data quickly....would you throw up the names of the city council members and what their salary is? I'm not from Michigan (live in Illinois) but I'd happily call the bastards up and let them know that they had better get off their asses and do something for that city. And in the instance that they were like the crooks from the one town in California (can't remember the name right now....but the council members got a truly ridiculous salary for doing jack shit) I'd publish that shit all over the internet, and submit it to whatever newpaper I could. Cockroaches hate having light cast upon them. Failing that....maybe some good ol' boys need to set up in town for a few days and lay the hammer down. FFS, where the hell are the Guardian Angels? (Not saying they could fix it....but damn...something needs to be done) Get yourself outta there NiN....and failing the ability to do so, acquire a method of protecting yourself. Hell, there are some decent jobs down south a hour or two from me (look around the Quad City area of Illinois and Iowa). Though it aint heaven, at least there are cops to show up quickly when shit gets heavy. Stay safe, and if there is anything we can do for ya....just say so! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1295078 United States04/26/2011 07:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flint might be bad, but us in Michigan have all we need for the coming years. Lots of fresh water, wildlife, wild food, and tons of people with good aim and lots of guns. Quoting: Motion & RestI love Michigan, it's a great place. Have to agree. I live pretty close to Flint (about 30 min south) but completely different day to day life. Very little crime to worry about down here even though we are practically a stones throw away. Besides tornadoes we do not have to worry about any real natural disasters. Just a pretty shitty economy. |
| The Voice In Your Head User ID: 1282802 United States04/26/2011 07:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pure stupidity of the US citizens! Blacks are only 15% of the population yet we've LET them destroy all of our cities because of some idiotic "GUILT" from the past that our generation had NOTHING to do with. No other race in this country has done this to us. Other races have all contributed to society, NOT destroyed everything they touch. Quoting: kat38We've let this happen. And have even contributed to it. Period! edit to say I don't give a crap what name you call me! The problem transcends race. The color of any person's skin doesn't determine the content of their heart. I've seen caucasian, hispanic, african-american, asian, and indian folk do great things. I've also stood by and watched as different members of those races rain down chaos and destruction. Look beyond the color of a person's skin, for fucks sake. Thats part of whats wrong with the damn world these days. Making assertions about a person based solely upon the color of their skin. And before you even go there....I look like I was washed in bleach. Give ya a clue? But there is more to this book and that would be implied by the cover. |
| The Voice In Your Head User ID: 1282802 United States04/26/2011 07:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pure stupidity of the US citizens! Blacks are only 15% of the population yet we've LET them destroy all of our cities because of some idiotic "GUILT" from the past that our generation had NOTHING to do with. No other race in this country has done this to us. Other races have all contributed to society, NOT destroyed everything they touch. Quoting: kat38We've let this happen. And have even contributed to it. Period! edit to say I don't give a crap what name you call me! The problem transcends race. The color of any person's skin doesn't determine the content of their heart. I've seen caucasian, hispanic, african-american, asian, and indian folk do great things. I've also stood by and watched as different members of those races rain down chaos and destruction. Look beyond the color of a person's skin, for fucks sake. Thats part of whats wrong with the damn world these days. Making assertions about a person based solely upon the color of their skin. And before you even go there....I look like I was washed in bleach. Give ya a clue? But there is more to this book and that would be implied by the cover. That last sentence was supposed to say "But there is more to this book than what would be implied by the cover". Ffs, I need coffee....or maybe a beer. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1236522 United States04/26/2011 07:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1228167  Canada04/26/2011 07:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't vote for republicans or the tea party because they blame the poor economy on the poor. They don't want to tax the rich. Instead, they want the lower middle class to pay for wars, bombs, infrastructure and all entitlements. Yet executives at wealthy corporations make millions a year and pay little taxes, oil companies don't pay taxes and yet tax payers secure their oil supplies by funding the military. Big banks get tarp money paid for by tax payers. A lot of big businesses are subsidized by tax payers. These same people, are the ones who outsourced the jobs, filled the country with illegals used for cheap labor and hire well educated foreigners with work visas. Yet they can't pay any taxes. The media makes them look like the victims exploited by the poor. |
| DoveInLight User ID: 1123151 United States04/26/2011 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Welcome to Michigan! *sighs* |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1289877 United States04/26/2011 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| SpydrGrl User ID: 1142555 United States04/26/2011 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's hard but if you can imagine all the energy around you, the space around you, it feels like it's spinning left. Make it stop with your mind, feeling it slow down and finally stop. Then spin it to the right. Works every time. Keep going, don't stop, just don't stop. Strength and Power, Power, Power to you and the rest of us. kiss |
| blastem User ID: 1277515 United States04/26/2011 07:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1308436 Canada04/26/2011 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Whats crazy is that budget for defense is 20 percent it ammounts to 689 billion on par with medicaid and social security imagine the money they could spend in other stuff if they cut the defense budget by 50 percent thats 344 billion dollars they could spend improving the countrys infrastructure, improving rail, internet and so on, imagine the jobs that it could generate, but yet their off in other countries working for the oil companies, so sad. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 799612 United States04/26/2011 07:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I totally understand how it is hard to save money to move, but can't you just let go of the house? I mean, its just a roof. Fuck credit it doesn't mean shit anymore. I'd rather have shit credit and be safe, than live in a war zone. Instead of saving money for a gun permit, save the money to get the fuck out of there, stop paying the mortgage. Let it foreclose-like everyone else has there. You will have a long time to sit and "squat" in the house before you'd have to move, and it sounds like it would take another year just for the sheriff to show up and serve you papers. Survival mode. means not always doing the right thing (paying the mortgage) but it does mean living life away from threats to it all the time. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1358383 United States04/26/2011 07:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am somewhat of an idealist. I want to ask what the best thing to do in this situation would be. I want to say that there is an opportunity here somewhere because in everything there is a polarity. I would first ask all the cops that still live there if they would volunteer to help bring the city to a safer level. These people would be paid in points that they could exchange for food, clothing, supplies etc in stores that also volunteered to accept them. This would probably mostly be local stores and shops. I would try to have a town meeting where we got everyone together and decided what they needed. Most would want food, clothes, good school, and things to do in the town etc. I would then get all the volunteers I could to start growing food that would be rationed to the people that volunteered in the garden. I would ask each and every person what they were willing to do to contribute. Perhaps some would teach, some would build, some would farm, some would repair etc on and on. I would go to the thugs and ask them what they want. Why do they do this. What is their purpose in thugging? I would try to help them get their needs met and give them some suggestions of what to do to fill up their time. I know that they would still thug if they wanted drugs but I think if they helped people or started to farm or build, help some one, volunteer then they might begin to feel something good inside ..and that there is a way to live, contribute, build up a life that is fulfilling. I cannot go into great detail here. There are many details to fill in the spaces here but I know that humans are capable of anything. Being an idealist I see it as a perfect opportunity to bring everyone together to make their own unique town that could make history. Quoting: Idealist Orphan 1308455Michigan Militia Chapters need to start doing their job. Is their Militia in Michigan? Michigans militia is one of the most feared militias by the gov So why aren't they out patrolling the streets and keeping neighborhoods safe? Oh wait. They have their own lives to be concerned with in these bad economical times. See how good these PTB people are. Militia units in Michigan are at the COunty level, most of the ones that are actually training ,are much further north of Flint. there are some units in that area, but seemed to more concerned with Calender making and PR than their oaths. |
| SpydrGrl User ID: 1142555 United States04/26/2011 07:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I totally understand how it is hard to save money to move, but can't you just let go of the house? I mean, its just a roof. Fuck credit it doesn't mean shit anymore. I'd rather have shit credit and be safe, than live in a war zone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 799612Instead of saving money for a gun permit, save the money to get the fuck out of there, stop paying the mortgage. Let it foreclose-like everyone else has there. You will have a long time to sit and "squat" in the house before you'd have to move, and it sounds like it would take another year just for the sheriff to show up and serve you papers. Survival mode. means not always doing the right thing (paying the mortgage) but it does mean living life away from threats to it all the time. Leaving wont solve anything, I understand where you're coming from though. People have been leaving ever since they could and that's part of the problem, chasing after something better, bigger, brighter. No sin in that, the sin is what's happening to the cities all over the world, not just here. time to pay back bitches. kiss |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1358167  Spain04/26/2011 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just me who read this thread and thought it was bullshit op was making up? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358319How can this be real, what the hell I was just thinking that wth! we have no clue here in Europe what you guys are going through, its sounds terrible |
| mistersplinter User ID: 1074750 United States04/26/2011 08:03 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i would move if i could people Quoting: NiNzrezbut moving anywhere costs money and its not just me i have kids and family that have always been there for me, so i would never leave them to try to survive here my themselves my family an i were in a house explosion a few years ago and that took us all back down to square one since then we have worked as one unit to survive one does one thing while another does another we bust our asses working what jobs we can get and spend everything we make on bills and food we work hard to survive and a savings account is a thing of the past i think of this each time i read someone on a volcano thread say something like "why don't those people just move?" it sounds way easier than it is to actually do so we have accepted that this is where we live and learned to survive here the best we can and we constantly try to learn new survival methods. We do joke around with one another and say that at least when TSHTF we will be 5 steps ahead of everyone and will not miss the luxuries of modern life as much as most. In fact, a SHTF scenario would be welcomed at times, because then i would be able to go cut down that tree down the road and burn it in the fire place to keep warn, and not be stuck paying whatever the electric company decides to say we owe or loose heat. Thank you everyone for the sweet offers to move where you live. it is a very nice gesture to see :) Sooner,...or later, you will be leading people to safety. It is a sign of the times unavoidable to those will will look with open eyes, and who fight against the "media" mind-control. Some do not see it. YOU do. You are clearly a natural born leader. If you begin any long, arduous, journey in life with baby step,...you will soon find yourself running with the wind at your back. This is rapidly becoming a time for free-flight. :) Z +1000 I completely agree. Ninz is one of a handful of posters here on GLP whose intellect, spirituality, and compassion shines through on each and every post. Her aura is impressive through the interwebz, a medium which is not conducive for such things, I bet it is truly a sight to behold IRL. I fully believe that Ninz will have a following as/after TSHTF. Hell, I'd be surprised if it hasn't started already. "I have no special talents. I am only passionately curious." -- Albert Einstein |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1337629 United States04/26/2011 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The pure stupidity of the US citizens! Blacks are only 15% of the population yet we've LET them destroy all of our cities because of some idiotic "GUILT" from the past that our generation had NOTHING to do with. No other race in this country has done this to us. Other races have all contributed to society, NOT destroyed everything they touch. Quoting: kat38We've let this happen. And have even contributed to it. Period! edit to say I don't give a crap what name you call me! I sense you a very unbalanced person.The hatred in what you write comes out loud and clear.It will slow you awakening greatly.The grouping of humans is not of the creator.Perhaps if there where no wars,there would be no poverty,hence no crime.Poverty breeds crime.And btw,My brother who is one you hate,Helped change to elderly abuse laws in NYC.Elderly as in all old people who are suffering from various illnesses and issues. Please thank your brother from those of us who are pleased to hear of humans caring for other humans who need help. This is how the world becomes a better place. Thank you. |
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