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Did *Obama* speak as Bildad in the Book of JOB- When he said? Do you think we are stupid???

 
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Did *Obama* speak as Bildad in the Book of JOB- When he said? Do you think we are stupid???
Loaded Question: President Obama to Speaker Boehner, “Do You Think We’re Stupid?”

Barack Obama asked Speaker Boehner during budget talks, “Do you think we’re stupid?”
TPM reported:

As House Republican leaders struggle to sell their spending agreement, President Obama is privately crowing to supporters that he stood up the GOP on health care and won big time.

“I said, ‘You want to repeal health care? Go at it. We’ll have that debate,” Obama said, describing his negotiations with Speaker John Boehner. “You’re not going to be able to do that by nickel-and-diming me in the budget. You think we’re stupid?

[link to gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com]

JOB 18:

Bildad Speaks of the Wicked
1Then Bildad the Shuhite responded,

2“How long will you hunt for words?
Show understanding and then we can talk.

3“Why are we regarded as beasts,
*********As stupid in your eyes?*********************

WHO IS BILDAD??????


This is very dangerous stuff. Bildad does not advise Job to look to God for information but to some group of unnamed peoples in an undefined former age who have knowledge of something that was discovered by their fathers.

We have gone back to a generation before the patriarchs and, I suggest, before creation. He is saying to go way back to the time of the demons. He says to go back to what these people have learned, stuff that had not been taught by God but taught by some shadowy fathers of the fathers—again, a generation back, further back than the patriarchs. That is enough to put a chill on anything that Bildad has to say.

What did these fathers of old teach Bildad? Turn over to his last discourse in chapter 25. This is his entire discourse. It is just a short speech by Bildad. Notice again the heavy use of questions.

Job 25:2-3 "Dominion and fear belong to Him; He makes peace in His high places. Is there any number to His armies? Upon whom does His light not rise?"

Well, good. This really sounds pretty good, with all this stuff about dominions and so on. It almost sounds like something from the Book of Daniel. However, notice the next question, because this is where his logic goes:

Job 25:4-6 "How then can man be righteous before God? Or how can he be pure who is born of a woman? If even the moon does not shine, and the stars [perhaps angels] are not pure in His sight, how much less man, who is a maggot, and a son of man, who is a worm?"

Here is another muddle of truth and lie.

Bildad promotes the Gnostic notion of a deep chasm separating God and man. Even the angels are defiled. Man, only a maggot, cannot attain His righteousness.


No atonement. No unity. Again, this doctrine is the exact opposite of the Gospel of the Kingdom of God, the heart and core of which says that man is made in God's image—not in the image of a worm, not in the image of a maggot—and that he can properly aspire and, indeed, qualify to attain God's righteousness.

He can be approved. The teachings of Bildad's fathers' fathers are all wet. Job did not buy them either.
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Colossians 2:2-3 ...to all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the knowledge of the mystery of God, both of the Father and of Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

What he is saying is that we do not need to look anywhere else. We do not need to seek secret knowledge, certainly nothing that is proffered by demons.

Colossians 2:4 Now this I say lest anyone should deceive you with persuasive words
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OBAMA's DREAMS OF MY FATHER...

Obama argues with himself on almost every page of this lively autobiographical conversation.

He gets you to agree with him, and then he brings in a counternarrative that seems just as convincing. Son of a white American mother and of a black Kenyan father whom he never knew, Obama grew up mainly in Hawaii. After college, he worked for three years as a community organizer on Chicago's South Side.

Then, finally, he went to Kenya, to find the world of his dead father, his "authentic" self. Will the truth set you free, Obama asks? Or will it disappoint? Both, it seems. His search for himself as a black American is rooted in the particulars of his daily life; it also reads like a wry commentary about all of us.

He dismisses stereotypes of the "tragic mulatto" and then shows how much we are all caught between messy contradictions and disparate communities. He discovers that Kenya has 400 different tribes, each of them with stereotypes of the others. Obama is candid about racism and poverty and corruption, in Chicago and in Kenya
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OBAMA AND BILDAD SPEAK THE SAME LINGO:

Obama:

Understanding that Jesus Christ dying for my sins spoke to the humility we all have to have as human beings, that we're sinful and we're flawed, we make mistakes," Obama said. "And that we achieve salvation through the grace of God."

Although flawed, individuals can "still see God in other people" and help others to find "their own grace."

"So that's what I strive to do. That's what I pray to do every day," Obama said.

BILDAD:


Bildad does not advise Job to look to God for information but to some group of unnamed peoples in an undefined former age who have knowledge of something that was discovered by their fathers.


We have gone back to a generation before the patriarchs and, I suggest, before creation. He is saying to go way back to the time of the demons. He says to go back to what these people have learned, stuff that had not been taught by God but taught by some shadowy fathers of the fathers—again, a generation back, further back than the patriarchs. That is enough to put a chill on anything that Bildad has to say.

What did these fathers of old teach Bildad? Turn over to his last discourse in chapter 25. This is his entire discourse. It is just a short speech by Bildad.


Notice again the heavy use of questions.

Job 25:2-3 "Dominion and fear belong to Him; He makes peace in His high places. Is there any number to His armies? Upon whom does His light not rise?"

Well, good. This really sounds pretty good, with all this stuff about dominions and so on. It almost sounds like something from the Book of Daniel. However, notice the next question, because this is where his logic goes:

Job 25:4-6 "How then can man be righteous before God? Or how can he be pure who is born of a woman? If even the moon does not shine, and the stars [perhaps angels] are not pure in His sight, how much less man, who is a maggot, and a son of man, who is a worm?"
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Re: Did *Obama* speak as Bildad in the Book of JOB- When he said? Do you think we are stupid???
Colossians 2:8-10 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ. For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; and you are complete in Him...

Like Christ, Paul understands that even the elect can be deceived (Matthew 24:24). Make no mistake about it: the false teachings of demons can be persuasive; so sugar-coated, so subtle.



A mixture of truth and lie, they can seem so correct.....
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I really do think that you took this horrifically out of context.

Bildad's speech is along the lines of:
"Why do you think we are supid?"

Obama asks:
"Do you think we are stupid?"

Obama is asking for confirmation that the Republicans think that way, Bildad is asking for a reason because he already has confirmation.

Of course, it could be seen that obama is assuming that the answer is yes, and the "why" would be implied, but that is a stretch.

Anyway, a person saying "Do you think I'm stupid" is common. At least where I live in the Midwest. It is pretty similar to the saying "I wasn't born yesterday."

You went too far on that one.
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I really do think that you took this horrifically out of context.

Bildad's speech is along the lines of:
"Why do you think we are supid?"

Obama asks:
"Do you think we are stupid?"

Obama is asking for confirmation that the Republicans think that way, Bildad is asking for a reason because he already has confirmation.

Of course, it could be seen that obama is assuming that the answer is yes, and the "why" would be implied, but that is a stretch.

Anyway, a person saying "Do you think I'm stupid" is common. At least where I live in the Midwest. It is pretty similar to the saying "I wasn't born yesterday."

You went too far on that one.
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Not really...

If you read the entire text of Bildad speaking to *Job* it is Bildad trying to pevert the truth of GOD, by using GD's words from his own understanding not GOD's

Obama speaks of GOD with a peversion of truth....Obama thinks that is one does many good works he will find favor with GOD, that is NOT THE GOSPEL....These are the words of Bildad and also Demons..

Demons are like human beings-Meaning not ever human being is a raging luntic rapist murderer, some human beings are just liars....

Many Demons will try to out smart GOD (With human beings) by words and philosophy as innocent lambs...
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Re: Did *Obama* speak as Bildad in the Book of JOB- When he said? Do you think we are stupid???
When Lucifer brought his case agaisnt GOD to the Angels in the Divine Realm, he did it with Smooth Charasmatic talks..

He would of said: GOD will not give you all of his light, but I will...I will do things for you GOD will not..


Sort of like Liberals saying: Republicans and Conservatives hinder you, they do not want you to have the desires of your heart, they do not want you to have riches that seem to go to the rich...


Our life as Physical Beings parallels Divine Beings...

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