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I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!

 
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I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
Jesus will send you into eternal torture for not following his commands. What happened to unconditional love? Thats right God is not unconditional, but conditional, obey me or perish. But Jesus loves you. Thats not love thats sadistic, if i don't get my way i will torture you for eternity. What a scary belief to have. I'm a psychologist and i can see this belief causes you alot of stress, you have to be a certain way, you cant just be yourself! it instills fear of going to hell. So you only love God because you might go to hell. Something is wrong here, this causes fear, sheep attitude obey obey or be tormented. Love created out of fear is not love people! "What happens when you imagine just being yourself?" "But what about morals" Well it works without God, every action has a consequence. Lets get rid of this belief which causes so much stress, it is unhelpful and holds you back from, well just being yourself. How many times have you wanted to swear at somebody, but couldn't because the bible says you cant?. God murders, gets angry, torments, hates, this is a dictator not an all loving God.
Your belief is not a fact, it is just a belief which you are biased by only looking at evidence which supports your belief and disregarding evidence which goes against it. The bible isn't even reliable, the amount of books left out the bible, changed by man, makes this book unreliable and fiction. But your belief is so strong you disregard everything i say, but deep down you know what i'm saying is right. Don't be a sheep look at all the evidence for and against and use that to come to your own conclusion. Don't let your parents dictate your beliefs, use your own head.
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
So christians what have you got to say for yourself?
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I'm glad you understand what is required of you. Now stay faithful and obey your creator or else lose your soul.
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
Is the man a child of God - I doubt very much. Being a child of God means being born of spirit.
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
The unrighteous will be annihilated , burned up and will cease to exist .
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The righteous will live forever in eternal paradise , you not coming ???
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The unrighteous will be annihilated , burned up and will cease to exist .
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Oh what a great and loving God we all have..
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Like the rubbish was burned up in Gehenna in Jerusalem .
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God is a righteous Judge who must punish sin and rebellion . He cannot be around sin so the unrighteous will not get near him or the New Jerusalem .
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
The unrighteous will be annihilated , burned up and will cease to exist .
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Oh what a great and loving God we all have..
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If you loved God you would keep his Commandments , you do not so why should he love you ???
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
"Your belief is not a fact, it is just a belief which you are biased by only looking at evidence which supports your belief and disregarding evidence which goes against it."
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God being only a God of love is new-age bullshit so drop the act .
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
Jesus will send you into eternal torture for not following his commands. What happened to unconditional love? Thats right God is not unconditional, but conditional, obey me or perish. But Jesus loves you. Thats not love thats sadistic, if i don't get my way i will torture you for eternity. What a scary belief to have. I'm a psychologist and i can see this belief causes you alot of stress, you have to be a certain way, you cant just be yourself! it instills fear of going to hell. So you only love God because you might go to hell. Something is wrong here, this causes fear, sheep attitude obey obey or be tormented. Love created out of fear is not love people! "What happens when you imagine just being yourself?" "But what about morals" Well it works without God, every action has a consequence. Lets get rid of this belief which causes so much stress, it is unhelpful and holds you back from, well just being yourself. How many times have you wanted to swear at somebody, but couldn't because the bible says you cant?. God murders, gets angry, torments, hates, this is a dictator not an all loving God.
Your belief is not a fact, it is just a belief which you are biased by only looking at evidence which supports your belief and disregarding evidence which goes against it. The bible isn't even reliable, the amount of books left out the bible, changed by man, makes this book unreliable and fiction. But your belief is so strong you disregard everything i say, but deep down you know what i'm saying is right. Don't be a sheep look at all the evidence for and against and use that to come to your own conclusion. Don't let your parents dictate your beliefs, use your own head.
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clappa You speak the truth, OP hf
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clappa



Also 5 stars for you, op. Nice summary.
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You all act like you don't need God in this life so he will not need you in the one to come .
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04/27/2011 12:21 PM
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
OP DID YOU GET YOU ICECREAM YET?
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04/27/2011 12:23 PM
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OP,

Drug addicts convince themselves drugs are good for them.

Why? because they love their drugs. But in the end, drugs kill that man.


Men convince themselves sin is good for them.

Why? because they love their sin. But in the end, sin kills that man.

Jesus knows this. So he comes to free a man from sin. He comes to show a man that he can be free from the bondage of sin and that sin is not good for him.

But a drug addict needs to admit he has a problem and want help. So must a sinner admit he has a problem with sin and want help.

peace,
Dyomartys

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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
The unrighteous will be annihilated , burned up and will cease to exist .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359198


Oh what a great and loving God we all have..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1358982


so you rather have death and suffering forever? you like this world and its state that much? Think about it. God has allowed suffering that comes from sinning for a period of time. He allowed it So we can see what going against GOd brings. It brings death, lies, cancer, starvation...etc. Him putting an end to it and ending the lives of those that want to continue sinning is loving. nobody is going to be tortured forever, they will simply die, which is what you believe will happen to you anyways, right? by doing this he puts an end to the suffering that came about because of people like them.
since He is the giver of life and sustains life should he then sustain the life of those that bring suffering forever? If he does then He would be at fault for the suffering because he is sutaining it forever. SHould he had just killed lucifer the second he sinned and prevented this time of suffering? If He did his creation would say He is not just, worship out of fear and the rumors that lucifer spread about God not being fair would start being accepted. He did the wise things which is to let lucifer have his way for awhile so everyone can see the results then he executes His judgment. not only that but He provides a way out for those that want to follow Him by paying the price of death himself
that sounds like a GOd that is patient, prevent further suffering in the futre, just, fair and loving
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
I have so far found zero evidence to contradict my theory that the Christian idea of God is that he is a DICK.


According to their Bible, he is a psychopath who incites all the worst in mankind. He orders genocide, he incites murderous rage and jealousy, he tortures people emotionally and physically. That, my friends, is not a good role model.
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OP,

Drug addicts convince themselves drugs are good for them.

Why? because they love their drugs. But in the end, drugs kill that man.


Men convince themselves sin is good for them.

Why? because they love their sin. But in the end, sin kills that man.

Jesus knows this. So he comes to free a man from sin. He comes to show a man that he can be free from the bondage of sin and that sin is not good for him.

But a drug addict needs to admit he has a problem and want help. So must a sinner admit he has a problem with sin and want help.

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


LMAO. Religious people convince themselves that religion is good for them.
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
I have so far found zero evidence to contradict my theory that the Christian idea of God is that he is a DICK.


According to their Bible, he is a psychopath who incites all the worst in mankind. He orders genocide, he incites murderous rage and jealousy, he tortures people emotionally and physically. That, my friends, is not a good role model.
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You are lost. You've obviously never read the Bible.
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04/27/2011 12:32 PM
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
OP,

Drug addicts convince themselves drugs are good for them.

Why? because they love their drugs. But in the end, drugs kill that man.


Men convince themselves sin is good for them.

Why? because they love their sin. But in the end, sin kills that man.

Jesus knows this. So he comes to free a man from sin. He comes to show a man that he can be free from the bondage of sin and that sin is not good for him.

But a drug addict needs to admit he has a problem and want help. So must a sinner admit he has a problem with sin and want help.

peace,
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


LMAO. Religious people convince themselves that religion is good for them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1311939


I am not important neighbor.

The Christ cannot help anyone who says he is not sick and blind and deaf.

You are healthy and have 20/20 vision and hear just fine.

You will not hear him neighbor.

peace,
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
I have so far found zero evidence to contradict my theory that the Christian idea of God is that he is a DICK.


According to their Bible, he is a psychopath who incites all the worst in mankind. He orders genocide, he incites murderous rage and jealousy, he tortures people emotionally and physically. That, my friends, is not a good role model.
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Stay in your stubbornness and learn it the hard way.
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
There's no point in trying to have a rational debate with Christians until they learn for themselves.
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
Yes, the children of GOD know HE is their FATHER. The children that claim the Antichrist as their father GOD allows them to go live with him. Understand?
If you break my wings, I will just find a cloud and learn to fly again. The Lord will catch you when you fall or teach you to fly! May the footprints I leave lead you to BELIEVE.
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Dear Brothers,

G-D's law is perfect and perfect are His ways. If you choose something that is not according to His way you are choosing an evil path. We do not belong to ourselves but belong to Him that with HIS SACRIFICE ON THE CROSS HAS SAVED US. Start with the ten commandments, and to love G-D with all your heart and your soul and your neighbour as yourself. Look for the Lord while you can find Him.
1John2:15 On Not Loving the World
Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world,
love for the Father is not in them. 16 For everything in the world,
the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life,
comes not from the Father but from the world.
17 The world and its desires
pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever.
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The unrighteous will be annihilated , burned up and will cease to exist .
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coincidentally, christians sound just like the nazi of old, err guess all that catholic church nazi germany stuff sort of says they are.

never mind.
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Re: I love you children of God but if you don't obey me i will torment you for eternity!
If someone repents because they heard that God is going to have them satanically tortured forever and ever in a place HE created JUST for that purpose....IS their conversion out of LOVE or TERROR??

Its like me forcing a woman to LOVE me..cause if she does NOT..I am going to have her skinned alive SLOOOOWLY over a period of years.

Where is the LOVE in that??

But thats what the vast majority of christians are saying is the so called "FREE CHOICE" God is offering us..LOVE him or be HORRIBLY BURNT ALIVE in NEVER ENDING UNTOLD AGONY..

Yeah..thats LOVE..not..

And saying crap like.."WE CHOOSE to go there is CRAP"...

If faced with loving someone or being skinned alive over a period of months..which one would YOU choose???

And if this person TOLD you the alternative..what would you THINK of them??..not much eh??

The whole TURN or BURN makes GOD out to be A BILLION TIMES MORE EVIL THAN SATAN....

TORTURE IS EVIL..yes or NO??

IF you say YES...you have just called god EVIL...IF you say NO...you are a pshycopathic FREAK..and so is GOD..

SO..the ONLY option which FITS Gods TRUE character..is that there IS NO HELL AS WE HAVE HAD IT TAUGHT...there is NO other option.
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G-d is a machine. It's time to pull the plug.
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If someone repents because they heard that God is going to have them satanically tortured forever and ever in a place HE created JUST for that purpose....IS their conversion out of LOVE or TERROR??

Its like me forcing a woman to LOVE me..cause if she does NOT..I am going to have her skinned alive SLOOOOWLY over a period of years.

Where is the LOVE in that??

But thats what the vast majority of christians are saying is the so called "FREE CHOICE" God is offering us..LOVE him or be HORRIBLY BURNT ALIVE in NEVER ENDING UNTOLD AGONY..

Yeah..thats LOVE..not..

And saying crap like.."WE CHOOSE to go there is CRAP"...

If faced with loving someone or being skinned alive over a period of months..which one would YOU choose???

And if this person TOLD you the alternative..what would you THINK of them??..not much eh??

The whole TURN or BURN makes GOD out to be A BILLION TIMES MORE EVIL THAN SATAN....

TORTURE IS EVIL..yes or NO??

IF you say YES...you have just called god EVIL...IF you say NO...you are a pshycopathic FREAK..and so is GOD..

SO..the ONLY option which FITS Gods TRUE character..is that there IS NO HELL AS WE HAVE HAD IT TAUGHT...there is NO other option.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33771304
Hell was created for demons, not human souls, yet I'm told billions of souls are there, and it ain't no picnic.
I know God doesn't want you to go to hell, just what's best for you.
Id choose to love him.. there's a lot of love there, there's a whole universe of it!
"Search your heart Luke, you know it to be true"
Seems so simple, anything that's any good for you comes from within yourself,

Last Edited by stars on 07/20/2013 08:13 AM
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