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Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked

 
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Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
Adobe automatically performs OCR upon scanned documents (in layers).

"You can use Acrobat to recognize text in previously scanned documents that have already been converted to PDF. Optical character recognition (OCR) software enables you to search, correct, and copy the text in a scanned PDF. To apply OCR to a PDF, the original scanner resolution must have been set at 72 dpi or higher."

[link to help.adobe.com]

Birther dummies.

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04/27/2011 11:32 PM
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
Birther dummies.

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Yeh.
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04/27/2011 11:35 PM
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
I really think you have no idea what you're talking about. What does OCR or text recognition have to do with anything?
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked



Actually not debunked at all.
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OCR does not add multiple layers, and fake security paper.

Debunker-tard debunked.
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04/27/2011 11:39 PM
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
OCR does NOT consider added IMAGES

Please try the process mentioned here and you will realize you know not what you read or are misinterpretting the help site:

Thread: See Obama's birth certificate alterations in Adobe Acrobat reader

I am a certified Adobe Illustrative Developer who also went over this with Adobe corporate support a few hours ago and even their own leads were shocked!

This certificate was doctored. Once you paste the top layer into a Word or txt editor you will understand and humbly eat your words.
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
It did the same thing in Nitro PDF. [link to i.imgur.com]

Debunking FAIL
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04/27/2011 11:41 PM
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But the Obama Birf Certifcate LEAVES out Penis Descripshun!!!!
A shur sign it is fake!!!!!
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You suck at debunking OP

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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
You can confirm this yourself by scanning an image (of one of your own documents), converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.

You people are so dumb.

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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
You can confirm this yourself by scanning an image (of one of your own documents), converting it to a PDF, optimizing that PDF, and then opening it up in Illustrator, does in fact create layers similar to what is seen in the birth certificate PDF. You can try it yourself at home.

You people are so dumb.

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So you think you've debunked one aspect of the document? Good job. Now get to work debunking the 100 other things wrong with it, and you might get somewhere.
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04/28/2011 01:21 AM
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OP has no idea what he's talking about. Nice work for a paid shill or troll.
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
Adobe automatically performs OCR upon scanned documents (in layers).

"You can use Acrobat to recognize text in previously scanned documents that have already been converted to PDF. Optical character recognition (OCR) software enables you to search, correct, and copy the text in a scanned PDF. To apply OCR to a PDF, the original scanner resolution must have been set at 72 dpi or higher."

[link to help.adobe.com]

Birther dummies.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1321419


OCR does not recognize handwritten text - don't be a fucktard. Nor does it recognize "state registrar" stamps and split those off as separate layers.
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04/28/2011 01:24 AM
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
The birther crap is a diversionary tatic.
The real Obama Hawaii birth certifcate exists and is being hidden because of the fact that it states that Obama's father is not an American. And you need both parents to be born in the U.S.A. to be president.
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04/28/2011 04:51 AM
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
MAYBE it was the WHITE HOUSE who put the green stripy layer in???? Maybe they didn't want people to change "Hawaii" to "KENYA HA HA HA HA HA H AH AHAH A HA AH HA!!!"

Or at least if they did change it, the stripes would show the changes.
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04/28/2011 04:53 AM
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
The birther crap is a diversionary tatic.
The real Obama Hawaii birth certifcate exists and is being hidden because of the fact that it states that Obama's father is not an American. And you need both parents to be born in the U.S.A. to be president.
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Then what about the Busches?

The zionist/neo-cons morons didn't have a problem with them... why is that?
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
OCR does not add white borders to black text.

Copying black text on a white background and then pasting it on a darker background will do that however.

You think you have debunked a theory, but have only focused on one aspect of that theory and have failed at even debunking that. Completely useless thread.
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
The birther crap is a diversionary tatic.
The real Obama Hawaii birth certifcate exists and is being hidden because of the fact that it states that Obama's father is not an American. And you need both parents to be born in the U.S.A. to be president.
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Who is his father on the real document?
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04/28/2011 05:18 AM
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
The birther crap is a diversionary tatic.
The real Obama Hawaii birth certifcate exists and is being hidden because of the fact that it states that Obama's father is not an American. And you need both parents to be born in the U.S.A. to be president.
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I think you're mistaken. Both parents don't have to be US citizens at the time of the birth. But, if only one parent is a citizen, then that parent must be at least 18 years old and meet stricter residency requirements, (e.g. live in the US at least five years prior to the birth, etc), which Obama's mother may not have satisfied, according to the following:

[link to www.snopes.com]
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04/28/2011 05:22 AM
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
The birther crap is a diversionary tatic.
The real Obama Hawaii birth certifcate exists and is being hidden because of the fact that it states that Obama's father is not an American. And you need both parents to be born in the U.S.A. to be president.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1238054


I think you're mistaken. Both parents don't have to be US citizens at the time of the birth. But, if only one parent is a citizen, then that parent must be at least 18 years old and meet stricter residency requirements, (e.g. live in the US at least five years prior to the birth, etc), which Obama's mother may not have satisfied, according to the following:

[link to www.snopes.com]
 Quoting: jellybean224 967614


sbus

RTFA you use as your proof.

The fact is, the qualifications listed in the example quoted above are moot because they refer to someone who was born outside the United States. Since Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, they do not apply to him.
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04/28/2011 05:29 AM
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The fact is, the qualifications listed in the example quoted above are moot because they refer to someone who was born outside the United States. Since Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, they do not apply to him.
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since when was hawaii in america?!?!


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The fact is, the qualifications listed in the example quoted above are moot because they refer to someone who was born outside the United States. Since Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, they do not apply to him.
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since when was hawaii in america?!?!


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1360480


Hawaii (Listeni /həˈwaɪ.iː/ or /həˈwaɪʔiː/ in English; Hawaiian: Mokuʻāina o Hawaiʻi) is the newest of the 50 U.S. states (August 21, 1959),

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama's parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn't even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he'd still qualify as a natural-born citizen.
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The fact is, the qualifications listed in the example quoted above are moot because they refer to someone who was born outside the United States. Since Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, they do not apply to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1037929


since when was hawaii in america?!?!


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1360480


Hawaii (Listeni /həˈwaɪ.iː/ or /həˈwaɪʔiː/ in English; Hawaiian: Mokuʻāina o Hawaiʻi) is the newest of the 50 U.S. states (August 21, 1959),

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama's parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn't even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he'd still qualify as a natural-born citizen.
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It was a joke mate :)

You didn't see the "trollface.jpg" clue?
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since when was hawaii in america?!?!
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HAWAII FIVE OH!!!!!
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
The fact is, the qualifications listed in the example quoted above are moot because they refer to someone who was born outside the United States. Since Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, they do not apply to him.
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since when was hawaii in america?!?!


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1360480


Hawaii (Listeni /həˈwaɪ.iː/ or /həˈwaɪʔiː/ in English; Hawaiian: Mokuʻāina o Hawaiʻi) is the newest of the 50 U.S. states (August 21, 1959),

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama's parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn't even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he'd still qualify as a natural-born citizen.
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It was a joke mate :)

You didn't see the "trollface.jpg" clue?
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I saw it which is why i didnt give you the little bus emote.

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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama's parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn't even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he'd still qualify as a natural-born citizen.
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Untrue. The original intent of the 'subject to the jurisdiction' clause was to prevent foreign diplomats children from running for president. In other words, children born in the USA who were born to non-citizens.
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If there was tampering as evident in the layers, then there would be something UNDERNEATH those layers other than just white space. The guy with the video above with his smiling old white guy face, he already has blocked ppl from responding to his youtube that might be critical of his work, so whatev.

The fact is, nobody landed on the moon. And the HAARP program can't play kickball for S---! whatever
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That doesn't debunk it or explain anomolies I see. I'm not even a birther and I can clearly see it was manipulated. Its time to deal with the FACT that it is a forgery now.
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
The fact is, the qualifications listed in the example quoted above are moot because they refer to someone who was born outside the United States. Since Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, they do not apply to him.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1037929


since when was hawaii in america?!?!


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1360480


Hawaii (Listeni /həˈwaɪ.iː/ or /həˈwaɪʔiː/ in English; Hawaiian: Mokuʻāina o Hawaiʻi) is the newest of the 50 U.S. states (August 21, 1959),

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The Fourteenth Amendment states that "all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States." Since Hawaii is part of the United States, even if Barack Obama's parents were both non-U.S. citizens who hadn't even set foot in the country until just before he was born, he'd still qualify as a natural-born citizen.
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[link to www.law.cornell.edu]

here is the link to US Code defining Citizens at birth.

1401(g) applies to Obama situation:

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date;

Therfore, even if born in Kenya, his mother was US citizen who resided in us for at least 5 years. His father's status as alien has no bearing.

Barak is a citizen of the united states even if born in Kenya. Now, whether that meets the intent of being a Natural Born Citizen to serve as a presidential requirement, which is not defined by Constitution, I dont know.

The issue is dead.
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"I am a certified Adobe Illustrative Developer...."


Really? You're an Adobe ILLUSTRATIVE Developer

Because I could've sworn the official name of the software is Adobe ILLUSTRATOR

I wish we could fuel our cars with the energy you people put into generating and re-generating this stupid-ass birther bulls**t. Then maybe you'd actually be of some use to the rest of us.
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Re: Obama birth certificate layer theory debunked
SO basically what OP is saying is that now that GLP has enough good information, shills are paying attention and posting more here.

OP - you are a shill and you will get exactly what you voted for. Crap. Lies. Pocket CHANGE.





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