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DOLLAR REPORT - about to hit $72- so much is tied to this little number....

 
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OP, whats BC?
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I certainly looks like it is going into a freefall.


Where it stops is anybody's guess.
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It means that those US dollar bills will become worthless.
Plunging most of the US population into a severe depression much worse than the so called Great Depression.

No one will be able to afford gas...no cars move...no trucks move.
No one can get to work if they still have a job.
When the trucks don't move, no goods make it to the stores.\
No food, no water, no jobs, no transportation.

Major cities become unliveable.
Populations walk out of the cities to survive.
Martial law will be implemented.
After that, it is anyone's guess, but all the guesses would be horrific.

So, NOW, stop and think why the gulf was destroyed.
All that natural source of food will be gone soon.
Where does one go then?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 135178


Total collapse is always possible, but other countries have experienced the collapse of their currency and empire and did so without going into chaos. England, USSR, are just an example of collapsed empires that didn't go into 'total chaos'.
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Here's my take on the situation.

How many guys that work at the power plant are in walking distance?

How many guys that work at the water treatment and sewage plant live within walking distance?

How many people that pick up our trash live within walking distance?

Also, think of prices of gas, one's check being worthless by the time it makes it to the bank.

What will the truck drivers do? If they can charge a surcharge for fuel and loss of money to the stores, then prices will go even higher and you can bet some of the stuff will dissappear off the truck before it gets to the market, which will also raise prices.

Now, if these people don't show up for work because they either can't get there or it's not worth it to go in to work, imagine what would happen.

1. Trash sits. You neighborhood will start smelling, dogs will get into sitting trash. Then rats and roaches. Imagine the bugs that will be in your yard and make into your home. Have you included roach and ant spray in your preps? Whether you're bugging out of staying put, may want to include.

2. If the water isn't safe and people are working at the plant, eventually your sewer system can back up. Smelly. You'll have to make a plan for the potty. First to stop it from backing up and to hopefully know how to dig a whole in your back yard for an outdoor toilet. Do you have wood to make a small box or something like a tarp for privacy? (This is of course if you feel safe enough to even be in your yard).

3. The electric, well that speaks for itself.

So, if you aren't going to bug out. It will be smelly, gross and you will be wallowing in everything that is waste and will be sharing the joy with animals, rats, roaches and insects. Are you mentally prepared for this?

Of course, there is also the roving gangs that want to take the stuff you have, too.

As for the stores, that will be beyond imagination. I would bet either FEMA, the military or gangs will be in charge of who gets what and the price.
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The key urban areas are going to be sustained and the strategically less useful ones will be cut off.

That's not so hard.
 Quoting: Least Servant


About 80% of the US population lives on about 10% of the land, located in dense, urban areas. The remaining 20% living in rural areas, but produce almost all of the food, coal, lumber, power, fuel, etc. We only need about 60 million people to keep everything going, all the rest are worthless.

Basically, if you keep the doctors, scientists, technicians, skilled tradesmen and you starve the entitlement recipients and those who don't contribute, run off those who are here illegally, the problems of this country would magically disappear overnight.

Fantsay, I know, but indulge me.

This is an important statistic to remember if you don't want to be carted off to a FEMA camp. "Useless eaters" live in cities, the key producers live in rural areas.

If you look at it from a national perspective, cutting off several key metropolitan areas such as San Francisco, Los Angeles, Las Vegas, Phoenix, St. Louis, Chicago, New York, Philly, and strangling those areas, the rest is manageable. You're talking about 60-70 million useless eaters gone, close to one-quarter the population. California has well over a half million people on welfare alone. Imagine getting rid of those and keeping the farmers that live there.

If you cut off any population over 1 million, you would do away with more than one-third of the population (and likely 90% of the crime and social problems).

Those that remain could easily be absorbed by the surrounding countryside, farms and self-sustaining communities.

The military couldn't possibly handle going door-to-door in the rural areas, nor would I think it would be advantageous to do so. The military has to eat as well and needs power. Instead, you could take the US military and effectively quarantine the major population centers. This would have a dual purpose of a mass die-off as well as protecting your infrastructure to the farms, mining operations and fuel refineries.

The most efficient way to cull a population is to go to the urban areas. This is why you should get out of there now. In a crisis, there are a number of issues that could become a major problem, such as disease, violence or even population reduction.
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Looks like its gonna park at the 73 level....72 is such a mental breach sort of letting the dow get below 10k, that whatever is necessary will be done to keep it above 73 for the time being.

not sure what affect the ceasing of the QE2 in June will have...might hang out at 73 till then, unless something happens abroad that helps it out.
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The military couldn't possibly handle going door-to-door in the rural areas, nor would I think it would be advantageous to do so. The military has to eat as well and needs power. Instead, you could take the US military and effectively quarantine the major population centers. This would have a dual purpose of a mass die-off as well as protecting your infrastructure to the farms, mining operations and fuel refineries.

The most efficient way to cull a population is to go to the urban areas. This is why you should get out of there now. In a crisis, there are a number of issues that could become a major problem, such as disease, violence or even population reduction.
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Nature abhors a vacuum as do TPTB. Cities are easier to control... it's going to be like it has been forever in human history, the country supporting the urban centers.

People think we are reinventing the wheel... really we are uninventing the square peg in the round hole, which is capitalism and a universe with planets of finite resources.
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Yes, humanity has been here before.
There was a time hundreds of years ago which compares to ours now.
Then it was mostly in Europe...and across through Asia.
Today it is worldwide.

Back then the financial collapse ushered in the Dark Ages.

What will this one do?

The problem comes when there is nothing to eat, and nothing to drink, and no means of finding it without going to hunt it down by taking it from others.

America will be completely open for the taking.
Never it its history has it been more vulnerable.
And it has been planned as so.

Any troops that are here to provide any security will be foreign troops.
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Yes, humanity has been here before.
There was a time hundreds of years ago which compares to ours now.
Then it was mostly in Europe...and across through Asia.
Today it is worldwide.

Back then the financial collapse ushered in the Dark Ages.

What will this one do?

The problem comes when there is nothing to eat, and nothing to drink, and no means of finding it without going to hunt it down by taking it from others.

America will be completely open for the taking.
Never it its history has it been more vulnerable.
And it has been planned as so.

Any troops that are here to provide any security will be foreign troops.
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How do you say TRIDENT MISSILE in self-hating Westerner? 5a
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As the dollar decreases in value what does that do to the stock market? Will we drop drop drop below 9000? Will we have another Fall of 2008?
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Yes, humanity has been here before.
There was a time hundreds of years ago which compares to ours now.
Then it was mostly in Europe...and across through Asia.
Today it is worldwide.

Back then the financial collapse ushered in the Dark Ages.

What will this one do?

The problem comes when there is nothing to eat, and nothing to drink, and no means of finding it without going to hunt it down by taking it from others.

America will be completely open for the taking.
Never it its history has it been more vulnerable.
And it has been planned as so.

Any troops that are here to provide any security will be foreign troops.
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How do you say TRIDENT MISSILE in self-hating Westerner? 5a
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Not sure I understand what you are trying to say.
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Pin this focker!

The dollar is about to be worth 72 tmes its value?

Holy motherfockingbatman'sjockstrap! You got da inside info!
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How do you say TRIDENT MISSILE in self-hating Westerner? 5a
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Not sure I understand what you are trying to say.
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Americans need to accept the fact that Capitalism and Constitutional government have failed us and to get read to adopt the newest form of government currently in the oven.

If you think you are dead just because the Constitution is, then you are probably going to have a tough time coming to terms with what the necessary changes coming down the pipe will come to fruition in the coming years.

America strong on water and food, we should be fine. Anyone wants to get froggy we can destroy their whole country.

Of course it's not going to come down to that because of the whole balance of power with Russia thing, but there won't be any foreign troops in the USA, that's just absurd, essentially no military NOW has sufficient power projection to go up against American's HUNTERS let alone the combined forces of police, national guard, and federal army.

And don't worry, if the USA can't sustain those for itself, the rest of the world won't be able to either.

You see, the magick of the West? WE WIN EVEN WHEN WE FAIL Idol1
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Pin this focker!

The dollar is about to be worth 72 tmes its value?

Holy motherfockingbatman'sjockstrap! You got da inside info!
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cruise
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How do you say TRIDENT MISSILE in self-hating Westerner? 5a
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Not sure I understand what you are trying to say.
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Americans need to accept the fact that Capitalism and Constitutional government have failed us and to get read to adopt the newest form of government currently in the oven.

If you think you are dead just because the Constitution is, then you are probably going to have a tough time coming to terms with what the necessary changes coming down the pipe will come to fruition in the coming years.

America strong on water and food, we should be fine. Anyone wants to get froggy we can destroy their whole country.

Of course it's not going to come down to that because of the whole balance of power with Russia thing, but there won't be any foreign troops in the USA, that's just absurd, essentially no military NOW has sufficient power projection to go up against American's HUNTERS let alone the combined forces of police, national guard, and federal army.

And don't worry, if the USA can't sustain those for itself, the rest of the world won't be able to either.

You see, the magick of the West? WE WIN EVEN WHEN WE FAIL Idol1
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Ok, I can handle that.
I was looking at the overall picture as well.
I have done some preps and my family is on board as well, to some extent that is.
We will get away from the city as much as we can.
We all know where to meet.

What I am pointing out, when looking back at Katrina, exposed alot of what people in large cities will resort to.
Take into account how our government is pathetic and how the media keeps the masses in the dark about many matters...people will have to fend for themselves.

Many aren't prepared.
When there is so much chaos and disinformation, who will be providing protection/security/social order of any kind?

How will police, who will not be paid, do their job when their own families are unprotected and without food/water???
As long as America is left alone from outside influences, I actually see your scenario playing out. Many people will group together...but many will not.

As far as foreign troops...what if our government made a deal due to our financial collapse? You know those crooks in DC want to keep their position of power. And when the new system that comes into play takes center stage, they want to be in the high seats.
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It is a PERCENTAGE jackass... You fix and we forget.
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Ok, I can handle that.
I was looking at the overall picture as well.
I have done some preps and my family is on board as well, to some extent that is.
We will get away from the city as much as we can.
We all know where to meet.

What I am pointing out, when looking back at Katrina, exposed alot of what people in large cities will resort to.
Take into account how our government is pathetic and how the media keeps the masses in the dark about many matters...people will have to fend for themselves.

Many aren't prepared.
When there is so much chaos and disinformation, who will be providing protection/security/social order of any kind?

How will police, who will not be paid, do their job when their own families are unprotected and without food/water???
As long as America is left alone from outside influences, I actually see your scenario playing out. Many people will group together...but many will not.

As far as foreign troops...what if our government made a deal due to our financial collapse? You know those crooks in DC want to keep their position of power. And when the new system that comes into play takes center stage, they want to be in the high seats.
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I think it is going to play out very differently depending on where you are... we forget in this world of "globalization" that it is the particulars of locale that really matter.

Suffice to say, I think the worst places to be are mid-western eater cities... I think the major coastal cities are probably good bets, as is being out in the Western highlands. The suburban sprawl lands are probably going to be a bad spot too.

Basically extreme control or extreme solitude will be the themes of safety... anything in the middle will be a crap shoot post SHTF, IMHO.
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Can we get this shit over with?


Let the US fall on her nose. Her ass has been raped by its ZIONIST government who is too careful to get all the sperm, err, contributions from AIPAC.

Besides, my country will be free from intromissions from Washington. Currently, the Initiative Merida is financing the killing of people on the streets of many cities in Mexico, and I cannot wait until the promoter for that mayhem dies, altogether.

As we say in Spanish, once the dog is dead, the rabies is gone, as well.

hf
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As the dollar decreases in value what does that do to the stock market? Will we drop drop drop below 9000? Will we have another Fall of 2008?
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actually....it should create some false positives like raise the value of the stock market.

when we devalue the currency, it in essence is like a store marking down their merchandise on sale. because they need money. if its cheaper then you will buy more thereby creating revenue for the store because they are in a cash crunch.

because of a weaker dollar, investors using EU, yuan, Swiss Franc and other currencies can exchange fewer of their "dollars" for more of ours and invest it in the stock market, real estate, automobiles, etc. So, we should see a spike in the market and other international areas like software, etc....I expect the DOW to get up to or over 13,000 actually for a bit.

also, when we have a weak dollar, people will travel to US to vacation during the summer, or buy our goods as it will be cheaper...in theory.

however, conversely, what do you think of when you see a store with a big sign in the window that says 90% off sale! most would think, uh oh, they must be in trouble if they are having to put everything up for sale with that big of a discount.

thats what foreign investors have to analyze....is this just a devaluation to generate trade with US or is this a real sign that they are in trouble such that any possible investment is more risky.

thats where the whole, if it gets below a certain amount, we're screwed comes from.

71-74 is the number that most in the world say....thats too cheap, there must be real bad problems with the US economy if they put themselves up for sale that much.

We did see 70-71 in 2008...and you remember what happened at that same time...the feds came in and said the entire financial system is gonna collapse and martial law will be required if you dont give us 800 billion in tarp funds. so we know that system collapse is at 70.

thats what makes it so tricky and necessary to watch below 74...thats the trigger to a quick decline to 70...thats where we're at...

did that help, or too confusing....
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Can we get this shit over with?


Let the US fall on her nose. Her ass has been raped by its ZIONIST government who is too careful to get all the sperm, err, contributions from AIPAC.

Besides, my country will be free from intromissions from Washington. Currently, the Initiative Merida is financing the killing of people on the streets of many cities in Mexico, and I cannot wait until the promoter for that mayhem dies, altogether.

As we say in Spanish, once the dog is dead, the rabies is gone, as well.

hf
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Hopefully the Mexican people can topple your corrupt government in the process. You guys are in the same boat as we are.
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it hit a low of 69 on the USD index back in 2008..the end wont be nigh if its at 71$

it would need to drop below 60 for really harsh things to happen
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Can we get this shit over with?


Let the US fall on her nose. Her ass has been raped by its ZIONIST government who is too careful to get all the sperm, err, contributions from AIPAC.

Besides, my country will be free from intromissions from Washington. Currently, the Initiative Merida is financing the killing of people on the streets of many cities in Mexico, and I cannot wait until the promoter for that mayhem dies, altogether.

As we say in Spanish, once the dog is dead, the rabies is gone, as well.

hf
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Como si no fueras vecinito de ellos y no te fuera a caer toda la mierda encima.... por ahí viene tu Amero....
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it hit a low of 69 on the USD index back in 2008..the end wont be nigh if its at 71$

it would need to drop below 60 for really harsh things to happen
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its not so much how low it goes as how long it stays low....

we went from 87 in late 2007 to 70 in May 2008...thats when the banking crisis was beginning to boil, whick led to the september collaps...after the cash injection the dollar raced to close to 90....

here we have slowly moved from close to 90 in May of 2010 to 73 now....if we dont see a significant jump in dollar value, then that spooks investors..if you compare the long decline from 2006 to 2008, when we hit 70, the market crashed like a ton of bricks...we have seen a much steeper decline from May 2010 to now in terms of point drop, so it looks like we're going down fast...

the issue is what is gonna catch us this time to put the brakes on and pull it back up.

more spending? nope.

i think we have to make everyone else crash just as hard, which makes our currency look better or we will scrap the dollar and go to the SDR (Special Drawing Rights) financial sytem this summer.
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and Nero fiddles....
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Actually he's playing golf and appearing on Oprah before whoring money from degenerate rich slimebags in NY.
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Can we get this shit over with?


Let the US fall on her nose. Her ass has been raped by its ZIONIST government who is too careful to get all the sperm, err, contributions from AIPAC.

Besides, my country will be free from intromissions from Washington. Currently, the Initiative Merida is financing the killing of people on the streets of many cities in Mexico, and I cannot wait until the promoter for that mayhem dies, altogether.

As we say in Spanish, once the dog is dead, the rabies is gone, as well.

hf
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I for one am really looking forward to the extinction of the rotten race of Nazi apes currently polluting Mexico and most of America.
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Can we get this shit over with?


Let the US fall on her nose. Her ass has been raped by its ZIONIST government who is too careful to get all the sperm, err, contributions from AIPAC.

Besides, my country will be free from intromissions from Washington. Currently, the Initiative Merida is financing the killing of people on the streets of many cities in Mexico, and I cannot wait until the promoter for that mayhem dies, altogether.

As we say in Spanish, once the dog is dead, the rabies is gone, as well.

hf
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I for one am really looking forward to the extinction of the rotten race of Nazi apes currently polluting Mexico and most of America.
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amen
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Yeah, it hasn't been this low since 2008





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