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LEARN "WHY" MAY 21 2011

 
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do you know that people of faith don't really care

what blind folks think about those with sight !


we gained our sight and do all to give away sight daily


bro you are blind

walking in darkness

have a ring in your nose that has a demon pulling you to hell and death daily

but

you want me to listen to you like you have insight

your pulled around by that thing between your legs and your belly

you roll in the flesh daily and death waits for you at the end of the road


your only hope is to come to a understanding of who and what you are !

stop and repent

turn to God

throw yourself at the mercy of that God

and find out the name of God and His plan
 Quoting: Ice


Hello ICE.
Hey brother, I want to ask you a question and I hope you answer the question.
I have ONE verse that I want you to tell me what you think it is saying to us the reader of the bible.
Rev. 9:4"And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but ONLY THOSE MEN WHICH HAVE NOT THE SEAL OF GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS."

Now the question....
God gave that commandment to Satan and his 7000 bad boys that he brings with him that they can deceive all they wish "except those who have the seal of God in their foreheads."

This is a two part question.
Why would Gods Word have to write this out the way it is, IF none of the elect are going to be here after May 21, 2011 ?
Why are the elect still here in that "Hour" of Satan, that God has to tell Satan, you can go down and deceive all you wish, but touch not those that have the "seal" of God in their foreheads?
The elect are still here in the hour of temptation. (I wish more Christians would learn that bit of information about the hour of temptation. Because it is a specific future time line event.
So, Ice, my beloved brother, answer this for me. Tell me how come God has to give this commandment spoken of in Rev. 9:4 to Satan if the elect are already gone?
Love ya bro in Christ.
Blessings.
 Quoting: Little Star


later

good question

God Bless
 Quoting: Ice


Thanks ICE. I will be waiting for your response.
By knowing the timing of the hour of temptation, and the season of the Locust, we all can avoid the deceptions.

Good question for sure. I catch many souls with this question and I lead them to what Christ says.
Who are the 7000 spoken of in Romans 11:4 ?
Christ spoke of them in Mark 13 and what they shall do for the Lord in the hour of temptation. Christ even uses the word "hour" and many over look that small little word.
Blessings to you Ice.
 Quoting: Little Star




Revelation 9
1And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.



who was given the key ?





2And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

3And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.





4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.




this verse talks about life !!!


who has life ?










5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.


May 21st to Oct 21st

5 months

153 days

these are the folks found in the final judgment
Chill - Enjoy - Relax
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do you know that people of faith don't really care

what blind folks think about those with sight !


we gained our sight and do all to give away sight daily


bro you are blind

walking in darkness

have a ring in your nose that has a demon pulling you to hell and death daily

but

you want me to listen to you like you have insight

your pulled around by that thing between your legs and your belly

you roll in the flesh daily and death waits for you at the end of the road


your only hope is to come to a understanding of who and what you are !

stop and repent

turn to God

throw yourself at the mercy of that God

and find out the name of God and His plan
 Quoting: Ice


Hello ICE.
Hey brother, I want to ask you a question and I hope you answer the question.
I have ONE verse that I want you to tell me what you think it is saying to us the reader of the bible.
Rev. 9:4"And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but ONLY THOSE MEN WHICH HAVE NOT THE SEAL OF GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS."

Now the question....
God gave that commandment to Satan and his 7000 bad boys that he brings with him that they can deceive all they wish "except those who have the seal of God in their foreheads."

This is a two part question.
Why would Gods Word have to write this out the way it is, IF none of the elect are going to be here after May 21, 2011 ?
Why are the elect still here in that "Hour" of Satan, that God has to tell Satan, you can go down and deceive all you wish, but touch not those that have the "seal" of God in their foreheads?
The elect are still here in the hour of temptation. (I wish more Christians would learn that bit of information about the hour of temptation. Because it is a specific future time line event.
So, Ice, my beloved brother, answer this for me. Tell me how come God has to give this commandment spoken of in Rev. 9:4 to Satan if the elect are already gone?
Love ya bro in Christ.
Blessings.
 Quoting: Little Star


later

good question

God Bless
 Quoting: Ice


Thanks ICE. I will be waiting for your response.
By knowing the timing of the hour of temptation, and the season of the Locust, we all can avoid the deceptions.

Good question for sure. I catch many souls with this question and I lead them to what Christ says.
Who are the 7000 spoken of in Romans 11:4 ?
Christ spoke of them in Mark 13 and what they shall do for the Lord in the hour of temptation. Christ even uses the word "hour" and many over look that small little word.
Blessings to you Ice.
 Quoting: Little Star



Since you seem to have more authority than the Bible what don't you enlighten us with your wisdom?

You say 'all" who believe what God declares concerning the soon return of Christ are ignorant,it's the other way around.

You speak out of both sides of your mouth,one thing on this thread and one thing on another....
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I do know one thing, when May 21 arrives, I will love my son and wife and dog, love my sisters and their families, love my in-laws and friends. If I die and am destroyed, I will doing so loving what I love, along with trying to do my best, and be the best person- sinned and all, that I can be. MY BELIEF IN CHRIST- unwavering, but all who I love- non bible/ camping followers, will all die according to them. But we will die, loving each other, and I will pray always.
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I do know one thing, when May 21 arrives, I will love my son and wife and dog, love my sisters and their families, love my in-laws and friends. If I die and am destroyed, I will doing so loving what I love, along with trying to do my best, and be the best person- sinned and all, that I can be. MY BELIEF IN CHRIST- unwavering, but all who I love- non bible/ camping followers, will all die according to them. But we will die, loving each other, and I will pray always.
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To God be the Glory!
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Hello ICE.
Hey brother, I want to ask you a question and I hope you answer the question.
I have ONE verse that I want you to tell me what you think it is saying to us the reader of the bible.
Rev. 9:4"And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but ONLY THOSE MEN WHICH HAVE NOT THE SEAL OF GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS."

Now the question....
God gave that commandment to Satan and his 7000 bad boys that he brings with him that they can deceive all they wish "except those who have the seal of God in their foreheads."

This is a two part question.
Why would Gods Word have to write this out the way it is, IF none of the elect are going to be here after May 21, 2011 ?
Why are the elect still here in that "Hour" of Satan, that God has to tell Satan, you can go down and deceive all you wish, but touch not those that have the "seal" of God in their foreheads?
The elect are still here in the hour of temptation. (I wish more Christians would learn that bit of information about the hour of temptation. Because it is a specific future time line event.
So, Ice, my beloved brother, answer this for me. Tell me how come God has to give this commandment spoken of in Rev. 9:4 to Satan if the elect are already gone?
Love ya bro in Christ.
Blessings.
 Quoting: Little Star


later

good question

God Bless
 Quoting: Ice


Thanks ICE. I will be waiting for your response.
By knowing the timing of the hour of temptation, and the season of the Locust, we all can avoid the deceptions.

Good question for sure. I catch many souls with this question and I lead them to what Christ says.
Who are the 7000 spoken of in Romans 11:4 ?
Christ spoke of them in Mark 13 and what they shall do for the Lord in the hour of temptation. Christ even uses the word "hour" and many over look that small little word.
Blessings to you Ice.
 Quoting: Little Star



Since you seem to have more authority than the Bible what don't you enlighten us with your wisdom?

You say 'all" who believe what God declares concerning the soon return of Christ are ignorant,it's the other way around.

You speak out of both sides of your mouth,one thing on this thread and one thing on another....
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Sorry for having to say this.
You shall fall.
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Hello ICE.
Hey brother, I want to ask you a question and I hope you answer the question.
I have ONE verse that I want you to tell me what you think it is saying to us the reader of the bible.
Rev. 9:4"And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but ONLY THOSE MEN WHICH HAVE NOT THE SEAL OF GOD IN THEIR FOREHEADS."

Now the question....
God gave that commandment to Satan and his 7000 bad boys that he brings with him that they can deceive all they wish "except those who have the seal of God in their foreheads."

This is a two part question.
Why would Gods Word have to write this out the way it is, IF none of the elect are going to be here after May 21, 2011 ?
Why are the elect still here in that "Hour" of Satan, that God has to tell Satan, you can go down and deceive all you wish, but touch not those that have the "seal" of God in their foreheads?
The elect are still here in the hour of temptation. (I wish more Christians would learn that bit of information about the hour of temptation. Because it is a specific future time line event.
So, Ice, my beloved brother, answer this for me. Tell me how come God has to give this commandment spoken of in Rev. 9:4 to Satan if the elect are already gone?
Love ya bro in Christ.
Blessings.
 Quoting: Little Star


later

good question

God Bless
 Quoting: Ice


Thanks ICE. I will be waiting for your response.
By knowing the timing of the hour of temptation, and the season of the Locust, we all can avoid the deceptions.

Good question for sure. I catch many souls with this question and I lead them to what Christ says.
Who are the 7000 spoken of in Romans 11:4 ?
Christ spoke of them in Mark 13 and what they shall do for the Lord in the hour of temptation. Christ even uses the word "hour" and many over look that small little word.
Blessings to you Ice.
 Quoting: Little Star




Revelation 9
1And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.



who was given the key ?





2And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

3And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power.





4And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.




this verse talks about life !!!


who has life ?










5And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment was as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man.

6And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.


May 21st to Oct 21st

5 months

153 days

these are the folks found in the final judgment
 Quoting: Ice


Sorry Ice, the verse I gave to you is not about life.
The sealing is the "plan of God" nothing more and nothing less.

Again, the season of the "locust" is from April to Sept.
Yes that is the timing line which Christ spoke of in Mark 13. For the Lord Himself shorten those days or no flesh shall be saved.
To answer you question Ice that you gave back to me I will quote another scripture that will answer your question without my words being spoken.

Rev. 8:10 and REv. 9:1 go hand in hand.
Who is that star that had the key?

Star fall from heaven. I wonder what Christ said about this?
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i dont agree with any of it. Jesus warned us of people like this. no one knows the day or the hour, only the Father does. stuff like this does more to destroy faith and cause people to fall away. your not gathering, you are scattering. quit throwing stumbling blocks
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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i dont agree with any of it. Jesus warned us of people like this. no one knows the day or the hour, only the Father does. stuff like this does more to destroy faith and cause people to fall away. your not gathering, you are scattering. quit throwing stumbling blocks
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



Your right! Only the "father (Christ)" knows the day and hour.However,nowhere in the Bible does it say he (God)will not revel to his servants in his timing.Scriptue is clear that the true believer will know "time & Judgment,etc..

How did Noah know?Joah,Nineveh,Lot,Jeremiah,Abramhan,etc.."ALL" knew the time of Judgment.........

A true child of God cannot "fall away" once they become saved.Any who do "fall away" were never saved,but it does not mean maybe at some point they will,everyone is at the absolute mercy of God whether or not we become saved.

Solomon was a good example how someone who appears to be saved,but in reality he was not.

He did not endure unto death,only the faith "of" Christ can a person who becomes saved will be able to endure up unto the end.

Peace
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i dont agree with any of it. Jesus warned us of people like this. no one knows the day or the hour, only the Father does. stuff like this does more to destroy faith and cause people to fall away. your not gathering, you are scattering. quit throwing stumbling blocks
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



Your right! Only the "father (Christ)" knows the day and hour.However,nowhere in the Bible does it say he (God)will not revel to his servants in his timing.Scriptue is clear that the true believer will know "time & Judgment,etc..

How did Noah know?Joah,Nineveh,Lot,Jeremiah,Abramhan,etc.."ALL" knew the time of Judgment.........

A true child of God cannot "fall away" once they become saved.Any who do "fall away" were never saved,but it does not mean maybe at some point they will,everyone is at the absolute mercy of God whether or not we become saved.

Solomon was a good example how someone who appears to be saved,but in reality he was not.

He did not endure unto death,only the faith "of" Christ can a person who becomes saved will be able to endure up unto the end.

Peace
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Those who fall away will do it out of ignorance.
Ignorant as to the timing of the later day events.
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i dont agree with any of it. Jesus warned us of people like this. no one knows the day or the hour, only the Father does. stuff like this does more to destroy faith and cause people to fall away. your not gathering, you are scattering. quit throwing stumbling blocks
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



Your right! Only the "father (Christ)" knows the day and hour.However,nowhere in the Bible does it say he (God)will not revel to his servants in his timing.Scriptue is clear that the true believer will know "time & Judgment,etc..

How did Noah know?Joah,Nineveh,Lot,Jeremiah,Abramhan,etc.."ALL" knew the time of Judgment.........

A true child of God cannot "fall away" once they become saved.Any who do "fall away" were never saved,but it does not mean maybe at some point they will,everyone is at the absolute mercy of God whether or not we become saved.

Solomon was a good example how someone who appears to be saved,but in reality he was not.

He did not endure unto death,only the faith "of" Christ can a person who becomes saved will be able to endure up unto the end.

Peace
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Those who fall away will do it out of ignorance.
Ignorant as to the timing of the later day events.
 Quoting: Little Star




I'm sorry,you have no understanding of salvation.

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Peace
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i dont agree with any of it. Jesus warned us of people like this. no one knows the day or the hour, only the Father does. stuff like this does more to destroy faith and cause people to fall away. your not gathering, you are scattering. quit throwing stumbling blocks
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



Your right! Only the "father (Christ)" knows the day and hour.However,nowhere in the Bible does it say he (God)will not revel to his servants in his timing.Scriptue is clear that the true believer will know "time & Judgment,etc..

How did Noah know?Joah,Nineveh,Lot,Jeremiah,Abramhan,etc.."ALL" knew the time of Judgment.........

A true child of God cannot "fall away" once they become saved.Any who do "fall away" were never saved,but it does not mean maybe at some point they will,everyone is at the absolute mercy of God whether or not we become saved.

Solomon was a good example how someone who appears to be saved,but in reality he was not.

He did not endure unto death,only the faith "of" Christ can a person who becomes saved will be able to endure up unto the end.

Peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052454


Those who fall away will do it out of ignorance.
Ignorant as to the timing of the later day events.
 Quoting: Little Star


we can know the season, but the timing is as of a thief in the night. anything otherwise is not of God.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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i dont agree with any of it. Jesus warned us of people like this. no one knows the day or the hour, only the Father does. stuff like this does more to destroy faith and cause people to fall away. your not gathering, you are scattering. quit throwing stumbling blocks
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon



Your right! Only the "father (Christ)" knows the day and hour.However,nowhere in the Bible does it say he (God)will not revel to his servants in his timing.Scriptue is clear that the true believer will know "time & Judgment,etc..

How did Noah know?Joah,Nineveh,Lot,Jeremiah,Abramhan,etc.."ALL" knew the time of Judgment.........

A true child of God cannot "fall away" once they become saved.Any who do "fall away" were never saved,but it does not mean maybe at some point they will,everyone is at the absolute mercy of God whether or not we become saved.

Solomon was a good example how someone who appears to be saved,but in reality he was not.

He did not endure unto death,only the faith "of" Christ can a person who becomes saved will be able to endure up unto the end.

Peace
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1052454


Those who fall away will do it out of ignorance.
Ignorant as to the timing of the later day events.
 Quoting: Little Star


we can know the season, but the timing is as of a thief in the night. anything otherwise is not of God.
 Quoting: Sword0fGideon


Well, The Bible teaches differently....

1Thess:5 (two different groups of people)
2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.
4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.
6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

Rev:3
3 Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee.


John:10(a)
10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy:

Many other verses pertain to the fact that if Christ comes to anyone as a theif they remain in darkness (unsaved).

To God be the Glory!
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I will be here on May 22, 2011 to Learn why nothing happened.
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I will be here on May 22, 2011 to Learn why nothing happened.
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Apparently,your not teachable.........
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ECCLESIASTES:12
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
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ECCLESIASTES:12
13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
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15 days

amazing

God Bless
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Everything concerning May 21 2011 is compiled in this post.
Please read and come to your own comclusions whether or not if this is so.

I and many others know this is going to happen,no one can deny that this world is spining out of control right before our very eyes and yet most will not "see" the loosening of God's restraint on this world,no other time in history has the world been primed for judgment.

If you decide to take the time to read this information please "bump" so that others will have the opportunity to read and decide for themselves whether or not you agree with this message:

I pray God will bless us "all" in these last few weeks.

Peace

(Sorry,this was a word document).

Why May 21, 2011 An in depth look at The Day of Judgment

By: Gunther von Harringa, Sr.

WHY MAY 21, 2011?


Premise

Underneath the question of May 21st is a deeper nagging question in people’s minds: “Is the Bible really the Word of God?” For the past 52 years, Family Radio has been insisting that it is - in its original languages, and unequivocally - without error of any kind. Regardless of which Biblical information one sets out to find, without resting firmly on this foundational principle (along with the Bible’s own method of interpretation by “comparing spiritual things with spiritual,” according to 1 Cor. 2:11-13, and much prayer) one cannot arrive at Truth.



What will happen on May 21st, 2011? God will open all the graves around the globe by means of a worldwide earthquake of unparalleled proportions. Those who had died previously as genuine Christians will receive their glorified spiritual bodies and meet the Lord in the air, closely followed by Believers who are still alive, whose bodies will be instantly transformed and they too, will be caught up to meet the Lord in the air. Whatever is left of those who have died, but were not saved, will be expelled from their graves and be strewn in horrific fashion across the face of the earth and 153 days of God’s Judgment will commence with unmitigated fury until October 21, 2011, when God will incinerate the entire universe. Nothing will ever be remembered again about planet Earth, nor its inhabitants.
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Some of the following Biblical information has been gleaned from Family Radio publications and is available free of charge from www.familyradio.com.


I. The Proofs for May 21, 2011

PROOF #1: IN 2 PET. 3:8, GOD REVEALS A SIGNIFICANT “TIME CLUE” (WHICH HE “DOUBLES” FOR EMPHASIS):

2 Pet. 3:8 states, But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

In Gen. 7:4-5 God specifically tells Noah, For yet seven days, and I will cause it to rain upon the earth forty days and forty nights; and every living substance that I have made will I destroy from off the face of the earth. {5} And Noah did according unto all that the LORD commanded him.

The context of the worldwide Flood is apparent in verses 4-6 of 2 Pet. 3, as well as that of the final Judgment by fire in verses 7-12, thus God links these two judgments together in order to alert mankind as to His divine agenda:

According to the Bible the Flood occurred in 4990 BC. Effectively, God is warning that mankind has “7 days” or “7000 years” to enter into the safety of the Ark (which represents salvation). In other words, 4990 BC + 2011 – 1 (since there is no year zero) = 7000 years.

PROOF #2: IN GEN. 7:11, GOD FURTHER PINPOINTS THE VERY DAY, MONTH, AND YEAR (“…THE SIX HUNDRETH YEAR OF NOAH’S LIFE…”) OF THE FLOOD:

In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

Noah’s lifespan is actually a calendar even as we date time by the Lord Jesus Christ today. There were other men referred to as “calendar reference patriarchs” covering about 9,500 years of history in Gen. 5 and 11. Although Noah’s calendar used thirty-day months, a year has always been based on 365.2422 days. During the time of Moses God instituted another calendar based on the lunar cycle, or 29.53 days. Amazingly this lunar calendar reveals that May 21, 2011 is the 17th day of the second month! The last time that May 21st landed on 17th day of the second month occurred in 1994, and it is not scheduled to happen again until 2032 (if time were to continue).



PROOF #3: It has been stated that “History is the unfolding of God’s salvation plan.” As such, two events tower over all the others: Christ’s first advent and His Second Coming. According to the Bible, The Crucifixion and Resurrection of Jesus Christ is the capstone of Christianity as it demonstrates God’s sacrificial love for His people, and His power to destroy death which is the punishment that all mankind deserves for their sins. ACCORDING TO THE BIBLE, THE CRUCIFIXION OCCURRED ON APRIL 1, 33 AD AND BETWEEN THAT DATE AND MAY 21, 2011 THERE ARE 722,500 DAYS, INCLUSIVELY. WHEN THE NUMBER 722,500 IS BROKEN DOWN INTO ITS BASIC FACTORS WE DISCOVER YET ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF GOD “DOUBLING UP”:

5 x 10 x 17 X 5 x 10 x 17 = 722,500


We must bear in mind that there are no numerals in the Bible, only words. God has also designed each and every word in the Bible very carefully in order to teach spiritual (or parabolic) truth. This is not new by any means, as the Reformers (some of which wrote books about the subject over 500 years ago) and even earlier believers right up to our present day have understood this:

Theologians of the Past Set Dates for the Return of Christ
It is very significant that well-known and astute Biblical scholars of the past recognized that the Scriptures do contain the date of the Rapture; and without a doubt, they were familiar with such passages like Mark 13:32, Mat 24:36, and so on.
As a result, they attempted to set dates themselves and in all instances were wrong because it was not God’s timing to divulge that information until our day. There is also another very practical reason for this: There was no possible way to warn the world of this either until the advent of the electronic media in our day:

· Martin Luther in 1525 actually predicted AD 2000.
· Sir Isaac Newton – considered the father of modern physics and a theologian – used Daniel 9 in 1715 and estimated the End as AD 2060.
· Gillespie, Rutherford, John Cotton, leaders of the Westminster Assembly of 1648, also set dates.
· Dr. Sinclair B. Ferguson, writing in New Horizons magazine (www.opc/nh.org) in 1993 or 1994, said modern Christians would be amazed at how many Puritans set dates.
The difference in our day is that God Himself has given us the dates for the End, and they are guaranteed by the Bible itself with undeniable proofs in order for genuine Christians to warn the world by utilizing all forms of mass communication possible. It is indeed a privilege to be aware of this information; yet it comes with a great responsibility to faithfully declare this announcement to the world in the little time remaining.

The basic factors in 722,500 days, underscore the following spiritual realities :

· The number 5 relates to either salvation or destruction.
· The number 10 refers to completeness.
· The number 17 symbolizes Heaven.

By God “doubling up” these two identical sets of basic factors, He is drawing our attention to the Biblical principle found in Genesis 41:32, when Pharoah’s dream was doubled:

And for that the dream was doubled unto Pharaoh twice; it is because the thing is established by God, and God will shortly bring it to pass.

An additional point can be made regarding the mathematical probability that arises from these two sets of identical factors of the number 722,500:

Dan Stevens writes: “In the following statement by the OP:

Quote:
‘Please note: I do not accept any "proofs" which involve finding the value of a time interval and factoring this value in "significant" numbers since I have concluded that this involves several fallacies. Fundamentally, this process excludes lots of data points and only accept factors such as 3,5,7,10,12,13,17,23,37, and 43 (and the multiples of these). This is "cherry picking" the data by which sooner or later lots of patterns are sure to happen by the laws of probability. Consequently, I reject the 722,500=(5x10x17)(5x10x17) argument as involving invalid reasoning.’

“The contention is made that the 722,500 day link between the day Christ was crucified (April 1, 33AD) and the 7000th year anniversary of the flood on May 21, 2011 is essentially meaningless, being a happy (or unhappy) coincidence that arises due to the laws of probability which (in the OP's mind) virtually guarantees many numbers will have the ability to be factored because of the 10 or so biblically significant factors being used. But as I read this post I notice one very important piece of information was missing, the analysis the OP used to support this position! Anyone can make a claim, but unless they back it up with something, their claim itself is meaningless!

Now it happens that I've heard others making similar unsubstantiated assertions, so awhile back I analyzed several numbers relating to the proofs Mr. Camping outlines in his books, and one of these included a look at the 722,500 days. In that analysis, I checked every number from 722,500 +/- 10,000, to see how many of those numbers could be factored by any of the above significant factors (3, 5, 7, 10, 12, 13, 17, 23, 37, 43). What I found was of the 20,001 numbers in this range, only 80 numbers could be factored. What percentage is this? Well, 80 out of 20,001 n umbers is just 0.40%. Now any probability less than half a percent is considered very small (better than 4 sigma), meaning the probability that any number within +/-10,000 of 722,500 can be successfully factored is statistically rare. This does not support the position of the OP, who assumed without proof that the laws of probability would "sooner or later" produce ‘lots of patterns’. Yet in this one simple analysis we find there are not ‘lots of patterns’, at least in regard to this number. By the way, if you add an additional criteria, that this number must be a perfect square of factors, then the probability reduces to just 0.015% (3 out of 20,001).

Of course we don't need to be math experts to realize that all the proofs offered in regard to May 21, 2011 are astoundingly significant, meaning the probability that this date just happens to pop up because there are lots of factors and lots of OT/NT dates that could be matched up comes from ignoring all the fingers pointing in that direction. By the way, it should be noted that the biblical calendar in a sense points fingers at 4 key dates, May 21, 1988, Sept 7, 1994, May 21, 2011, and Oct 21, 2011…”

The Importance Of Spiritually Significant Numbers

Let’s now consider the number 17 (which relates to “Heaven”) for example, and in so doing we will also see the importance of the number 7 (which relates to “perfection”). It surfaces in connection with the year 2011 in these significant Biblical events, as well as the number 1000 (along with its integers (10, 100, 10,000, etc.), which signifies “completeness.”

· 4017 years from Jacob’s (Israel’s) birth in 2007 BC to 2011

· 3017 years from David’s coronation (the 3000th anniversary of this event was celebrated in Israel in 1994) in 1007 BC. to 2011

· 2017 years from the birth of Christ in 7 BC. to 2011

· 23,017 days from Israel becoming a nation on May 14, 1948 to May 21, 2011. It includes the numbers 23 for Judgment; 1000 for completeness; and 17 for Heaven.

INCIDENTALLY, THE FOREGOING THREE PROOFS WERE ARRIVED AT AFTER THE DATE OF MAY 21, 2011 HAD ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THREE OTHER OUTSTANDING BIBLICAL MODES:

1. ~ 50 SIGNS OF THE TIMES (AS IN MAT 24) WHICH PINPOINT THE BIBLICAL REQUIREMENTS NEEDED TO ESTABLISH THE GENERAL TIME FRAME FOR THE RAPTURE AND THE START OF JUDGMENT DAY (WHICH IS ACTUALLY A PERIOD OF 153 DAYS).

2. SIGNIFICANT BIBLICAL EVENTS THAT WERE FULFILLED ON FEAST DAYS.

3. THREE MORE IMPORTANT “CALENDARS” THAT LEAD TO MAY 21, 2011.

Before launching into these, I would like to briefly discuss God’s
prerogative for hiding or disclosing truth.



II. It Is God’s Prerogative To Both Hide As Well As To Disclose Time Information (Before It Happens) To Believers



A. Examples of God revealing information about what He
plans to do:


Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

Gen. 18:17 And the LORD said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;

John 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.

Job 24:1 Why, seeing times are not hidden from the Almighty, do they that know him not see his days?

1 Thes. 5:3-5 instructs, {3} For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. {4} But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief. {5} Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

Below are some examples of believers who were given prior information by God concerning future events. With this in mind, it is helpful to remember the following citations:

Mat. 24:25, Behold, I have told you before.

Isa 42:9 Behold, the former things are come to pass, and new things do I declare: before they spring forth I tell you of them.

John 13:19 [(18-30) betrayal of Judas] Now I tell you before it come, that, when it is come to pass, ye may believe that I am he.

John 14:29 [(23-29) the sending of the Comforter on May 22, AD 33, Pentecost/Feast of Harvest or Weeks]: And now I have told you before it come to pass, that, when it is come to pass, ye might believe.

· Noah [Gen. 6:3, 13; 7:4-5; 11-13]
· Joseph (Gen. 40:8; 41:16, 25, 32)
· Moses – the 10 plagues; rebellion of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram (Exo. 3:13-22; Num.16:1ff )
· Joshua and the battle of Jericho…13 revolutions around the city pointing to 13,000th anniversary of Creation in 1988 (Joshua 6:1ff; 1 Kin. 16:34)
· Gideon (Jud. 6:14; 7:7; 7:21-22, 25)
· Jonah (Jon. 3:1-10)
· The sons of the prophets (and Elisha) knew about the “rapture of Elijah.” (2 Kings 2:3, 5) before it happened,
· The Crucifixion of Christ (Luke 18:31-34; John 2:13-22)

One of the main reasons that God has revealed the precise date of the Rapture/Judgment Day on May 21, 2011 is so that Believers, in turn, can confidently warn their families, friends, neighbors, and the world-at-large, as God so emphatically commands in Eze. 33:1-9,

Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 2 Son of man, speak to the children of thy people, and say unto them, When I bring the sword upon a land, if the people of the land take a man of their coasts, and set him for their watchman: 3 If when he seeth the sword come upon the land, he blow the trumpet, and warn the people; 4 Then whosoever heareth the sound of the trumpet, and taketh not warning; if the sword come, and take him away, his blood shall be upon his own head. 5 He heard the sound of the trumpet, and took not warning; his blood shall be upon him. But he that taketh warning shall deliver his soul. 6 But if the watchman see the sword come, and blow not the trumpet, and the people be not warned; if the sword come, and take any person from among them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at the watchman’s hand. 7 So thou, O son of man, I have set thee a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore thou shalt hear the word at my mouth, and warn them from me. 8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die; if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 9 Nevertheless, if thou warn the wicked of his way to turn from it; if he do not turn from his way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul.

During Old Testament warfare it was an absolute necessary for the “watchmen” to “sound the alarm” when the enemy was seen approaching; this was done by means of a “trumpet” or ram’s horn. In order to warn effectively, it was imperative that a “clear sound” be made, according to 1 Cor. 14:8, For if the trumpet give an uncertain sound, who shall prepare himself to the battle?


B. Examples of God hiding truth:

Dan. 12:4 reads, But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Dan. 12:9 adds, And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Luke 18:31-34 states,“Then he took unto him the twelve, and said unto them, Behold, we go up to Jerusalem, and all things that are written by the prophets concerning the Son of man shall be accomplished. {32} For he shall be delivered unto the Gentiles, and shall be mocked, and spitefully entreated, and spitted on: {33} And they shall scourge him, and put him to death: and the third day he shall rise again. {34} And they understood none of these things: and this saying was hid from them, neither knew they the things which were spoken.”

Acts 1:6-8 recounts, When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for [of] you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power. 8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Verse 8 emphasizes one of the reasons that God had carefully hidden the timing for the Rapture and the Day of Judgment – in order for the New Testaments churches to focus on their task of evangelizing the world.

Incidentally, the only other reference where both Greek words, “ the times” and “the seasons” are used together is in 1 Thes. 5:1-2,

But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.


C. God opens the “book” (the Bible) that was sealed:

The above-mentioned citations in Dan. 12: 4 and 9 are exceedingly relevant because God Himself - not Daniel the man – “shut up the words” or “closed the words”, and “sealed the book.” Daniel is a compound Hebrew word: Dan- which means judge; and –el is God. (Gen 49:16 Dan shall judge his people, as one of the tribes of Israel.) In other words, “God the Judge” hid this end-time information until our day. In like manner, it was God alone that “opened” or “unsealed” the book (biblion - which is the Bible – see same word used in Heb. 10:7; Rev. 22:7, 9-10) as Rev. 5:1-5 so clearly explains:

And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. {2} And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the book, and to loose the seals thereof? {3} And no man in heaven, nor in earth, neither under the earth, was able to open the book, neither to look thereon. {4} And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon. {5} And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.


III. Signs Of The Times

Mat 16:1-3 is a very compelling pronouncement: The Pharisees also with the Sadducees came, and tempting desired him that he would shew them a sign from heaven. {2} He answered and said unto them, When it is evening, ye say, It will be fair weather: for the sky is red. {3} And in the morning, It will be foul weather to day: for the sky is red and lowring. O ye hypocrites, ye can discern the face of the sky; but can ye not discern the signs of the times?


There are 50 + signs in Mat 24 that have been already fulfilled. In the interest of time we can only consider five of these. In 2 Thes. 2:3-4 we read about three of these important “signs” or events that must take place before May 21, 2011: Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away (apostasia) first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.


A. “A falling away (apostasia) first”: This refers to the chief characteristic of the “Great Tribulation” of our day —namely apostasy, as the following three references in Mat. 24 delineate:

Mat. 24:4-5 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

Mat. 24:11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.

Mat. 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.


B. “…That man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition.” - Satan, according to:

(This is the fulfillment of ) Isa 14:13-14, For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

1 John 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it [he] should come; and even now already is it [he] in the world.


C. “…so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.”

God granted Satan his wish to rule in all the churches. (God finished utilizing the churches and denominations, after 1955 years – as He did with national Israel, after 1480 years – whom He was married to). These two events are perhaps the saddest in the Bible. The very two organisms that God instituted and utilized as His representatives of the visible “kingdom of God on earth”, are under His wrath, and salvation is no longer available there.

Mat. 24:15-18 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place [the temple or church], (whoso readeth, let him understand:) {16} Then let them which be in Judaea [the churches and denominations] flee into the mountains: {17} Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: {18} Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.

Rev. 18:1-4 And after these things I saw another angel come down from heaven, having great power; and the earth was lightened with his glory. {2} And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great [the churches and denominations] is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.{3} For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.{4} And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues.

Lam 4:12 The kings of the earth, and all the inhabitants of the world, would not have believed that the adversary and the enemy [Satan] should have entered into the gates of Jerusalem. [symbolizing the churches and denominations worldwide and without exception]

Let us briefly consider the last two of the five “signs of the times” for the purposes of this presentation:



D . We are in the Great Tribulation

We have already touched upon some of the main elements of the current “great tribulation” that we are now in. This is a time of unprecedented spiritual deception and division. What makes this especially frightening is that God Himself is furthering this spiritual blindness, according to 2 Thes. 2:11-12 (and other passages),

And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Sadly, there is a great spiritual division that is taking place world-wide, even as the Lord Jesus warned that it would in Mat. 10:34-36,

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. {35} For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.{36} And a man’s foes shall be they of his own household.

The “sword” is of course “…the Sword of the Spirit, which is the Word of God.”

This spiritual division is separating the true believers from those who think they are God’s elect; the ones who will be impacted the most are those who belong to a church or denomination, and who are fully expecting to be “caught up” with Christ. Sadly, their churches leaders are assuring them of a false sense of security (or salvation) namely - “peace and safety” (1 Thes. 5:1-5)– which has no basis in reality, since they are the “tares” spoken of in the parable of the “wheat and the tares” as Mat. 13:34-43 teaches. Please note the opening verses (34-35) which delineate the way in which God wrote the Bible

All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: {35} That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world. {36} Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field. {37} He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; {38} The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
{39} The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. {40} As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. {41} The Son of man shall send forth his angels [messengers], and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; {42} And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.{43} Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.

The Bible highlights three “great tribulation” periods. (in Gk. – mega thlipsis). They include:

· The 7 years of famine when Joseph was Prime Minister in Egypt and Jacob and his family had to leave Canaan (symbolizing the Promised Land or Heaven) in 1877 BC and go into Egypt – a portrait of slavery to sin.

· The 70 years of exile when Judah went into captivity to Babylon from 609 BC to 539 BC.

· The 23-year period of our day (from May 21, 1988 to May 21, 2011)

All three of these “great tribulations” are tied to the number 84:

· 84 months in 7 years.
· 840 months in 70 years.
· 8400 days in 23 years. (May 20th 2011 is the 8400th day)

Each of these “tribulations” are divided into two distinct divisions of time. In our day, the first period of the Great Tribulation began on May 21, 1988 (coinciding with the end of the church age) and for the next 2300 days, (until Sept. 7th, 1994) virtually nobody was saved, as we read in Dan. 8:13-14

Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed.

E. The “Great Multitude”

The second period began on September 7th, 1994 (a Jubilee year) when God the Holy Spirit began to pour out His Spirit again (as He did on the day of Pentecost on May 22, 33 AD) to save a “great multitude” of people from around the world over the course of the next 6100 days, as Rev. 7:9 indicates:

After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

Rev. 7:9 as well as other passages describe the salvation that God is orchestrating as millions become saved during these 6100 days, or these last 17 years (since 1994). This is actually a stupendous spiritual representation of the 120,000 plus inhabitants of Nineveh - many of whom God saved - by sending Jonah to them with a 40-day warning of impending Judgment. However, on May 21, 2011, the door to salvation will be forever shut, even as God shut Noah and his family into the Ark (Gen. 7:16), or as the 5 “foolish virgins” were denied access to Heaven in Mat. 25.


IV. Significant Biblical Events Were Fulfilled Precisely On Feast Days

When one considers the reality of sound waves or airwaves we see God’s magnificent hand at work in establishing and sustaining the laws by which He governs this world in infinitely precise fashion. Wonderfully, we see this same accuracy recorded in the Bible as God indicates that Israel was in Egypt 430 years to the very day! (see Exo. 12:40-41: 1877 BC to 1447 BC) This is also in view with Israel wandering in the desert for 40 (a number that denotes “testing”) years to the very day!

A very helpful verse in understanding how the ceremonial feast days are connected to future Biblical events is Col. 2:16-17,

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.


A. Much Biblical evidence points to Christ being born on October 2nd, 7 BC, which fell on the Day of Atonement (Lev. 25:9 - the 10th day of the 7th month), while the year 7 BC was a Jubilee year (which occurred every 50 years, and symbolized that (the Gospel) liberty was to be proclaimed to the whole world.

B. John the Baptist announced the Lord Jesus as “the Lamb of God which taketh away the sin of the world” (John 1:29) on September 26th, 29 AD. This was the official start of His ministry on the 1st day of the 7th month, known as the Feast of the Jubilee, which lasted 1335 days (until May 22nd, 33AD, when the Holy Spirit was poured on Pentecost, and the church age officially began) according to Dan. 12:12,

Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

C. Christ was crucified on Passover, April 1st, 33 AD– the 14th day of the
first month .

D. Approximately 50 days after Passover, the Holy Spirit was poured out on the Feast of Harvest (or Feast of Weeks) or Pentecost on Sunday, May 22nd, 33 AD (and the church age had its inception).

E. The church age lasted 1955 years (to the very day from May 22, 33 AD to May 21, 1988); 1988 was also the 13,000th anniversary since Creation, in 11,013 BC. (The number 13 has to do with the “end of the world”… see the 13 revolutions around the city of Jericho in Jos. 6:1-5)

F. The first part of the “Great Tribulation” of our day began on May 21, 1988 and lasted 2300 days. However on September 7th 1994 (the first day of the 7th month, or Feast of Jubilee), God poured out His Spirit again (as on the Day of Pentecost) for the next 17 (symbolizing Heaven) years (or 6100 days) in order to bring in the “great multitude” by May 20th, 2011 (the 8400th day of this 23-year period).

G. There is yet one (dual) feast day which is still to be fulfilled on October 21st of this year—the day when God will destroy this entire universe and create “new heavens and a new earth.” This (dual) feast day corresponds to the 15th day to the 22nd day of the seventh month. This is called The Feast of Tabernacles (or Booths – which is really the Feast of the Bible) and the Feast of Ingathering. Spiritually, these feasts serve to exalt the Bible as God brings in the “final harvest” (or ingathering) into His Kingdom by May 21, 2011.


V. Three Other Outstanding “Calendars”

A. The Calendars of Gen. 5 and 11

These calendars as mentioned above cover about 9500 years of Biblical
history and indicate that the life spans of certain individual men known as “calendar reference patriarchs” served to “keep track of time”, in the same way that we use the Lord Jesus Christ to reference time in our day as either BC or AD. The discovery by Mr. Harold Camping (President and General Manager of Family Stations, Inc.) of the clue phrase “called by his name” (qara shem) over 40 years ago solved the problem of deciphering who an immediate son was as opposed to a more distant relative, denoted by the word “begat”, unless there was sufficient evidence in the verse to prove otherwise (or in a few cases, where the phrase “qara shem” was not used.) The following quote is from an online article entitled “Biblical Chronology and Dating of the Early Bible” by Curt Sewell, Director of Outreach for the Associates For Biblical Research (ABR), and listed in “Who’s Who in American Men of Science,” and other honors: (bold emphasis mine)

“…Camping’s method is highly unorthodox. What is significant, however, is that many of his dates correlate very closely with those of secular archeologists and historians. And even though it is a very unusual way of interpretation, this writer cannot find any obvious violation of Scriptural integrity, only long-established custom…but we must admit that it seems to fit history, and to solve what has always been a vexing problem…”

B. The Calendar Of The 430 Years In Egypt “To The Very Day”

We read in Exo 12:40-41, Now the sojourning of the children of Israel, who dwelt in Egypt, was four hundred and thirty years. And it came to pass at the end of the four hundred and thirty years, even the selfsame day it came to pass, that all the hosts of the LORD went out from the land of Egypt.

In the Bible God does allow for the substitution of a “day” for “a year.” Consider Num. 14:34, After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise.

Eze 4:4-6 utilizes this same principle as God instructs the prophet Ezekiel: “Lie thou also upon thy left side, and lay the iniquity of the house of Israel upon it: according to the number of the days that thou shalt lie upon it thou shalt bear their iniquity. {5} For I have laid upon thee the years of their iniquity, according to the number of the days, three hundred and ninety days: so shalt thou bear the iniquity of the house of Israel. {6} And when thou hast accomplished them, lie again on thy right side, and thou shalt bear the iniquity of the house of Judah forty days: I have appointed thee each day for a year.”


We also read in Dan. 12:9-11, And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end. {10} Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand. {11} And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.


How are we then to understand these 1290 years? First of all, 430 X 3 = 1290! In the Bible, the number three frequently refers to “the purpose of God.” Amazingly we discover that the number 1290 is connected to each of the three “great tribulation” periods that we have discussed earlier. They also depict the spiritual activity that is taking place in each of these crucial events. Let’s keep in mind that for 430 years (to the very day) the Israelites were in Egypt (a picture of spiritual oppression), according to God’s purpose for them. Please note how God uses this number 1290 in the next three illustrations:

1877 BC [Jacob’s tribulation]– 587 BC [Judah’s tribulation – Temple destroyed ] = 1290 years

587 BC [Judah’s tribulation] – 1994 AD [Jubilee year] – 1 = 2580 years =
2 X 1290 years

1877 BC [Jacob’s tribulation] – 1994 AD [Jubilee year] - 1 = 3780 years
= 3 X 1290 years


C. The Calendar of 1 Kings 6:1

1 Kings 6:1 teaches, And it came to pass in the four hundred and eightieth year after the children of Israel were come out of the land of Egypt [1447-480 =967 BC], in the fourth year of Solomon’s reign over Israel, in the month Zif, which is the second month, that he began to build the house of the LORD.

As in the “430 year” example above, God employs a similar progression with regard to the number 480. 480 years transpired from the Exodus (in 1447 BC) to the building of the Temple in 967 BC. The spiritual picture of building the Temple is equivalent to building the eternal Kingdom of God (or all genuine believers in Heaven).
480 X 3 (the purpose of God) = 1440. What happened 1440 years after the Exodus (symbolizing deliverance from slavery in Egypt)? Christ the Deliverer (The Savior) was born in 7 BC?

1447 BC – 1440 [480 x 3] = 7 BC (the birth of Christ in Bethlehem – which means literally, “the house of Bread” in a Jubilee year – on the Day of Atonement)

480 X 3 = 1440 X 3 X 3 = 12960 —the precise years from Creation (11013 BC) to when Israel became a nation in 1948—in fulfillment of the (almost) 2000 years Fig Tree parable in Matthew, Mark, and Luke.

Again using the date for the Exodus in 1447 BC (representing spiritual deliverance from slavery to sin) X 3 X 3 = 13,023 years = TOTAL NUMBER OF YEARS FOR MANKIND – CREATION TO RAPTURE/JUDGMENT – THE TEMPLE HAS BEEN COMPLETED – BELIEVERS “EXIT” THIS WORLD, AS GOD’S JUDGMENT FALLS.

Mat 24:32-34 asserts, Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer [“harvest”] is nigh: {33} So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. {34} Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
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we are not in the great tribulations. the bible states a time of trouble such as never was. remember in the bible they ate thier children due to famine.... i dont think we have reach a time such as never was yet... you failed it badly i should say.the bible gives the antichrist 3 1/2 years to rule also. we havent even seen that.. may 21st will come and go, but the end is near for sure.
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OP,thanks for your faithfulness. What are your plans for the next 16 days? Fasting? Do you plan on having a special last meal on the 21st? Will your faith community gather together for the day?
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too many words
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^^THIS^^

Damn can't you just make a summary of that story? It's way to much, and will probably have crap from the bible in it!
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Hey OP care to wager some $$$ on this? You have a fundamental flaw in your reasoning, the 7 angles with the 7 trumpets that we read about in the book of revelation. The last angel with the last trumpet that "sounds the mystery of the ages" and Paul wrote that at "THE LAST TRUMP the dead in Christ will rise first and those that are alive and remain will be caught up in the air to be with the lord forever." Hear any trumpets lately? What about the 3 and 1/2 years of the rule of the Anti-christ that Jesus will defeat at the battle of armegedon? Nothing like this is happening now so Judgement CAN'T come on May 21st. Please prayerfully consider the date and remember NO MAN knows the day or hour, not even Christ! Only God the Father!
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OP,thanks for your faithfulness. What are your plans for the next 16 days? Fasting? Do you plan on having a special last meal on the 21st? Will your faith community gather together for the day?
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Occupy! I have a small landscape business and will continue to work up until the last week,keeps my mind at ease.

Much Prayer!!

No speical meals.

There is no community,we "all" stand alone as individuals.

Being with my children and praying for them and myself up until the last moments...
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Think back to the late 90's when there was talk all over the internet and all over the world that Jesus was going to return for HIs people in 1999. It was everywhere and everyone was talking about it. And the main event that was going to trigger 'the end of the world' was Y2K. All communications between the human race were to be shut down and it was going to be the end of our world as we knew it. I hate to admit it, but I was one of the people who believed it but I believed it because of what other people were telling me. I was listening to other people's stories about Jesus supposedly telling them that He would return or that angels' were telling people that Jesus would be returning on a certain date.

Luckily I had a good friend, who made a statement to me during all of the turmoil. She said, 'Don't believe anything anyone else tells you...what does God tell you about it?' That statement stuck with me all of these years. I was devastated when it didn't happen because I was counting so much on 'going Home'. I've always felt like i don't belong here and that I'm only here temporarily anyway. My heart has been to go Home to Heaven and be with my family as they are all there except for my children and my two sisters.

Well, as I sit here and write this, it is now 2011 and over twelve years have passed since then and I've vowed to never set a 'date' again. I don't want to be disappointed like I was and I couldn't face that kind of heartache again so I've tried very hard to just get on with my life and not think about it. However, if you look at the news you can't help but see the increase in the horrific weather patterns, wars, beaching of sea life, sun dogs, and various signs of what is supposed to be 'the end' of the world as we know it.

And then, there's the 'dream' that I had back in 1998 that keeps 'peeking it's head' around the corner, reminding me of it's contents that I cannot ignore. The reason I can't forget it is because I was shown things I had never had knowledge of before that time. In this dream, I am in my pajamas and I walk out the back door onto the back porch. It is pitch black outside and I immediately look towards the eastern sky. I see what seems to be a HUGE object. It's either a 'sun', 'moon' or 'planet', but it is HUGE and very close to the earth. Then, immediately coming from the left of this object is another circular object (planet, moon, sun) moving slowly towards this object. As I watch the second one directly cover the first one (as in an eclipse), the earth begins violently shaking and I"m terrified. I then, for some reason, look at my hands as though my body begins changing somehow, and then I feel my body being lifted off from the ground. End of dream.

Back when I had this dream, I didn't know anything about the alignment of the planets, or the Mayan Calendar of 2012, Nostradamus prophecies, Einstein and Newton's theories. All I thought was that the rapture would happen at the point of an eclipse. I had no knowledge of astronomy or what was to happen in the coming years ahead.

Well, it's now 2011 and I now know much more than I did when I had the dream. There have been other 'close calls' of the possibility of the rapture but I've always known in my heart what God revealed to me in my dream. Now, for those of you who say 'No Man Knows The Day Or The Hour' and are quoting Scripture, I'm well aware of what it says. I'm not saying that I have a 'date' when the rapture will happen. I'm saying, I know what happens in the earth that takes place at the time of the rapture. Now WHEN that happens, no one knows for sure. According to the Mayan calendar, the alignment of the planets takes place on December 21, 2012, and it will cause an immediate 'pole shift' and at the time of the pole shift, the whole earth tilts on it's axis which will cause the whole earth to shake at once. This happens within an hour and according to the Bible, it refers to 'the hour of trial' that comes upon the WHOLE earth. However, if you will check out astronomy sites and see the actual planets and their current placment in the skies, the sites will show you that the planets will actually align between May 14th and May 21st of this year. Now, what makes that interesting is that Israel became a nation on May 14th also and there are several people on the internet claiming that 'Judgement Day' will be on May 21st of this year.

Am I saying 'when' the rapture will take place? No, I"m saying I know what happens when the rapture takes place. The evidence is compelling for sure and no one can deny that the 'birth pangs' are getting stronger and harder and the earth is getting ready to give birth 'to the man child' and we need to look up because our redemption draws nigh.....

Here is a link to a solar calendar to check out the planet alignments for yourself. Click on the month at the bottom center of the screen and put it to whatever date you wish and it will show you where the planets will be on that date. No doubt the time we have ahead will be interesting for sure!

[link to www.solarsystemscope.com]
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Hey OP care to wager some $$$ on this? You have a fundamental flaw in your reasoning, the 7 angles with the 7 trumpets that we read about in the book of revelation. The last angel with the last trumpet that "sounds the mystery of the ages" and Paul wrote that at "THE LAST TRUMP the dead in Christ will rise first and those that are alive and remain will be caught up in the air to be with the lord forever." Hear any trumpets lately? What about the 3 and 1/2 years of the rule of the Anti-christ that Jesus will defeat at the battle of armegedon? Nothing like this is happening now so Judgement CAN'T come on May 21st. Please prayerfully consider the date and remember NO MAN knows the day or hour, not even Christ! Only God the Father!
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There is "nothing" anyone here or anywhere else can bring to the table that has not been already considered,there is "ZERO" flaws.........I have been in the church for 40 years and know "everything" the churches teach,you are trusting your church instead the Bible.


Plus, I don't gamble...............
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good thing you remain anonymous, this would damage your creditability when it fails. and those 40 years you boast of would mean your just like all the false prophets. shouldnt date set.
Christians have had to face and realize their own sins, and feel compelled to try and help others as well.

This chant of Holier than thou is wrong and is taught by others making you think what is cool or acceptable to them.

The thought of "believe as i do" is strongly in an unbelievers life, because they feel they will be ridiculed by their friends.

Every falsehood a unbeliver weilds, is merely a reflection of the obstacles that unbeliever must face from his very own peers.

Unbelievers are the true followers, they are dedicated to fear of what other people think of them.

And because of this, they are ashamed of themselves, but wall themselves up to feel comfortable and safe, assuring themselves with rationality and laughter.

Which is insanity!
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too much thinking
too much theory

just another date

nothing will happen
"This world is more like a mystery, trapped in a conundrum, spun by a paradox." - AC1118155
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I dont see any significant alignements or Esoteric prophecy of that date.
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good thing you remain anonymous, this would damage your creditability when it fails. and those 40 years you boast of would mean your just like all the false prophets. shouldnt date set.
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'NO ONE' has credibility!!

ROMANS 3
4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a LIAR; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Romans:3
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
12 They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
13 Their throat is an open sepulchre; with their tongues they have used deceit; the poison of asps is under their lips:
14 Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness:
15 Their feet are swift to shed blood:
16 Destruction and misery are in their ways:
17 And the way of peace have they not known: 18 There is no fear of God before their eyes.


Jeremiah:17
9 The HEART is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?


JEREMIAH 18
12 And they said, There is no hope: but we will walk after our own devices, and we will every one do the imagination of his evil HEART.
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Romans:3
10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:



amen


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