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††† KING JAMES BIBLE ONLY? (KJV/KJB/AV) †††

 
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I believe the King James version of the Holy Bible is the only English bible we should rely on. I believe it is purified and preserved by the hand of God. I have studied the history of the bible and the creation of modern versions like the NIV, NASB, and NLT et al. and have discovered they are all corrupted.

There are three common signs of corruption:

1. changing Acts 12:4 to "passover" instead of the correct word "Easter" ( [link to www.chick.com]

2. getting rid of Satan's pre-fall angelic name "Lucifer" out of Isaiah 14:12 and even replacing with "morning star" or "day star" which is Jesus Christ as in Revelation 22:16 - 2 Peter 1:19 ( [link to www.chick.com]

3. an incorrect reference to Isaiah in Mark 1:2



What started me on this quest was a book called "An Understandable History of the Bible"
[link to www.chick.com]

After reading that book I then realized there was a problem, so I then read the book "New Age Bible Versions" by Gail Riplinger and it blew my mind on the subject.
[link to shop.avpublications.com (secure)]

Here are some links to help you with your understanding and learning on this matter.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

[link to www.chick.com]

[link to www.chick.com]

Want to know about the actual translation work of the KJV? Read this: [link to www.biblefortoday.org]

Or get this book and read it: [link to www.amazon.com]

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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I believe the King James version of the Holy Bible is the only English bible we should rely on. I believe it is purified and preserved by the hand of God. I have studied the history of the bible and the creation of modern versions like the NIV, NASB, and NLT et al. and have discovered they are all corrupted.

There are three common signs of corruption:

1. changing Acts 12:4 to "passover" instead of the correct word "Easter" ( [link to www.chick.com]

2. getting rid of Satan's pre-fall angelic name "Lucifer" out of Isaiah 14:12 and even replacing with Morning Star which is Jesus Christ as in Revelation 22:16 ( [link to www.chick.com]

3. an incorrect reference to Isaiah in Mark 1:2


What started me on this quest was a book called "An Understandable History of the Bible"
[link to www.chick.com]

After reading that book I then realized there was a problem, so I then read the book "New Age Bible Versions" by Gail Riplinger and it blew my mind on the subject.
[link to shop.avpublications.com (secure)]

Here are some links to help you with your understanding and learning on this matter.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

[link to www.chick.com]

[link to www.chick.com]



 Quoting: Veresanctus


really? you can't rely on any version, but I will say the others stink big time and are worse than the KJV. But the KJV was modified also, as needed by the satanists of this world, so you would support Israel, and as to the bible period, the best of the books were left out, and Paul's crap accepted into it. SAD. His stuff is terrible.

The Chick.com stuff is terrible, really really terrible. Try www.wisdomoftherays.com for more readable material, if you can't handle the Urantia Book.
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I believe there are other forums entirely devoted to this type of speculation. You should try them.
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I believe the King James version of the Holy Bible is the only English bible we should rely on. I believe it is purified and preserved by the hand of God. I have studied the history of the bible and the creation of modern versions like the NIV, NASB, and NLT et al. and have discovered they are all corrupted.

There are three common signs of corruption:

1. changing Acts 12:4 to "passover" instead of the correct word "Easter" ( [link to www.chick.com]

2. getting rid of Satan's pre-fall angelic name "Lucifer" out of Isaiah 14:12 and even replacing with Morning Star which is Jesus Christ as in Revelation 22:16 ( [link to www.chick.com]

3. an incorrect reference to Isaiah in Mark 1:2


What started me on this quest was a book called "An Understandable History of the Bible"
[link to www.chick.com]

After reading that book I then realized there was a problem, so I then read the book "New Age Bible Versions" by Gail Riplinger and it blew my mind on the subject.
[link to shop.avpublications.com (secure)]

Here are some links to help you with your understanding and learning on this matter.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

[link to www.chick.com]

[link to www.chick.com]



 Quoting: Veresanctus


really? you can't rely on any version, but I will say the others stink big time and are worse than the KJV. But the KJV was modified also, as needed by the satanists of this world, so you would support Israel, and as to the bible period, the best of the books were left out, and Paul's crap accepted into it. SAD. His stuff is terrible.

The Chick.com stuff is terrible, really really terrible. Try www.wisdomoftherays.com for more readable material, if you can't handle the Urantia Book.
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You REALLY should checkout all the links and videos I posted, then come back and repeat what you said
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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You Chick followers are severely deluded, and not very Christian. BTW I prefer the Douay Rheims translation. Although the KJV is good if complete.
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You Chick followers are severely deluded, and not very Christian. BTW I prefer the Douay Rheims translation. Although the KJV is good if complete.
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Who here is a Chick follower?

Quick to judge much? The link on chick.com has nothing to do with chick.com or Jack Chick

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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You reference Chick's hateful gospel so there You are
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OP, followed your link from the other thread to here. Thanks.

To start I should say that my most marked-up Bible is my KJV New Scofield Reference Bible, but I do find others helpful.

Have you done similar research on the problems with the AV/KJV?
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The lyin of jewduh killed an innocent guy with deceit and useful idiot wageslaves so he could call his own offspring the lord. soloman sacrificed children to his deity moloch while collecting levy tax and 666gold and numbering is.ra.el for satan like his spermdonor before him also accomplished and doing EVIL in the sight of the LORD so his evil bloody temple of demon worship was CAST AWAY

that is why...

Christ's grace is of NO EFFECT for those who justify themselves by law.

Moses wrote a testament AGAINST them for awhoring after other gods, just like solomon, in his new song... deu 31

Moses said they would do EVIL and they DID

For those who delight in unrighteousness are those who are sent the great delusion
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King James only?

The following is a chart of the Bible translations in .pdf format, so give it a minute to load:

[link to www.libertyparkusafd.org]

I also have a flickr image on the translations. Hard to read but once you do, its priceless:

[link to www.flickr.com]
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OP, followed your link from the other thread to here. Thanks.

To start I should say that my most marked-up Bible is my KJV New Scofield Reference Bible, but I do find others helpful.

Have you done similar research on the problems with the AV/KJV?
 Quoting: Life and Love


Every time I try and find fault in the KJV I end up finding out there are none that are provable.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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King James only?

The following is a chart of the Bible translations in .pdf format, so give it a minute to load:

[link to www.libertyparkusafd.org]

I also have a flickr image on the translations. Hard to read but once you do, its priceless:

[link to www.flickr.com]
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Yep
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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King James only?

The following is a chart of the Bible translations in .pdf format, so give it a minute to load:

[link to www.libertyparkusafd.org]

I also have a flickr image on the translations. Hard to read but once you do, its priceless:

[link to www.flickr.com]
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Note: there are no problems with the King James; there are only problems with Bible scholars.

I could tell you why the King James is the only Bible for the English speaking people's but then of course it would take a book.

Remember, it was written by God, not man. God never commissioned any Bible expert to write the Bible - He only commissioned willing and obedient fingers!

Think of it this way:

If I gave you a beautiful gold silk tie for Christmas as a gift, would you except it or...

...demand to see the original powdered dyes, inks, silkworms in their silkworm farm, cotton fields for the cotton backing, the seamstress who finished weaving it and the loom she worked on, the stitcher who stitched the name on it, any other machines used, any other processes used, etc ad nauseum and after all that...

...reweave it to your liking!?
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OP, followed your link from the other thread to here. Thanks.

To start I should say that my most marked-up Bible is my KJV New Scofield Reference Bible, but I do find others helpful.

Have you done similar research on the problems with the AV/KJV?
 Quoting: Life and Love


Every time I try and find fault in the KJV I end up finding out there are none that are provable.
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Yes, which is why it is good to look at the research of other people, just as we do for the other versions.

My principal concern isn't finding factual problems as much as knowing that any 400-year old text needs "re-translating." There is the temptation of some teachers/preachers to do a personal and biased "re-translating" for their adherents. (Not consciously or maliciously, but we all bring our own points of view to the table when we read a text.)

One very positive thing about the KJV is how it is nicely tied to the Strong's Concordance, though that, too, has to be handled with care, as Strong's provides terse, one-word English equivalents. It is better to use a broader commentary with in-depth discussion.

Again, I have seen some teachers/preachers who use Strong's more to prove a personal point than to let the text speak for itself.

I speak/preach fairly frequently, and I have to admit to a heavy burden I feel when "rightly handling the Word of God" before others. It is difficult to get the "self" out of the way and to let the Word speak directly to the listeners.

Blessings, and thanks for sharing. hf

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2 Timothy 3:16 KJV

All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:



I believe all versions contain the main kernel of Truth

Unfortunately we interpret it incorrectly sometimes
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Yes, which is why it is good to look at the research of other people, just as we do for the other versions.

My principal concern isn't finding factual problems as much as knowing that any 400-year old text needs "re-translating." There is the temptation of some teachers/preachers to do a personal and biased "re-translating" for their adherents. (Not consciously or maliciously, but we all bring our own points of view to the table when we read a text.)

One very positive thing about the KJV is how it is nicely tied to the Strong's Concordance, though that, too, has to be handled with care, as Strong's provides terse, one-word English equivalents. It is better to use a broader commentary with in-depth discussion.

Again, I have seen some teachers/preachers who use Strong's more to prove a personal point than to let the text speak for itself.

I speak/preach fairly frequently, and I have to admit to a heavy burden I feel when "rightly handling the Word of God" before others. It is difficult to get the "self" out of the way and to let the Word speak directly to the listeners.

Blessings, and thanks for sharing. hf
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Just an observation:

A friend lets you use his vehicle to get to work. When you arrive at his garage, you see two vehicles > a brand new 2011 Lamborghini and a beat-up 1975 pickup truck.

Which do you choose? Clearly the 2011 car is better in every respect but the older truck works just as well. The answer exposes motives.

What is perfection? Is it flawlessness or is it the appearance only of flawlessness intended?
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2 Timothy 3:16 KJV

All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:



I believe all versions contain the main kernel of Truth

Unfortunately we interpret it incorrectly sometimes
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I never said all versions don't contain some tidbits of truth I said that you can not rely on any other version but the King James version. Almost all versions have the gospel but they also say that Lucifer is Jesus Christ (Morning Star) and that of course is just plain wrong.

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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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Almost all versions have the gospel but they also say that Lucifer is Jesus Christ (Morning Star) and that of course is just plain wrong.
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A quick look at the Blue Letter Bible shows the KJV as "Lucifer", some with "shining star," some with "day star", some with "star of the morning."

NKJV has a footnote at Lucifer saying "Lit. Day Star."

None have "morning star" capitalized.

I have never known anyone to be confused by this, have you?
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There is nothing wrong with the KJV, except for all those missing books.
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Could not disagree with you MORE.....

The KJV of the bible is only one of many..

I am not a 'believer' but was raised catholic and could not wait to get out of that church!!!

but I digress..

If you truly believe the bible is God's word, then why would you want to read it in a translation that goes back hundreds of years...

No one in the bible days spoke like that!!!!!!!

they did not say 'thee' and 'thou', and so on!!!!!

Why not get off your asses and look into at LEAST familiarizing yourself with an interlinear version of the old and new testaments?

Now it's not as 'pretty' or easy to read, but at LEAST you'd get/have a better sense of what was actually being said..

No translation will ever come truly close to the language/s that were spoken then!!!!!

But I DO think that if you REALLY want to read God's word, you should go out and get yourselves an interlinear translation......all this means is that you have the original language, and right beneath it are the english words...

It's not as pretty and poetic as the KJV, but I have to think that if I was a devout christian, that that's the way I'd want to read the bible, or at least be familiar with, for example, how my favorite passages and parts of the bible would read in the original languages..

any thoughts?????

please don't rake me over the coals!!!!!!!
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I believe the King James version of the Holy Bible is the only English bible we should rely on. I believe it is purified and preserved by the hand of God. I have studied the history of the bible and the creation of modern versions like the NIV, NASB, and NLT et al. and have discovered they are all corrupted.

There are three common signs of corruption:

1. changing Acts 12:4 to "passover" instead of the correct word "Easter" ( [link to www.chick.com]

2. getting rid of Satan's pre-fall angelic name "Lucifer" out of Isaiah 14:12 and even replacing with Morning Star which is Jesus Christ as in Revelation 22:16 ( [link to www.chick.com]

3. an incorrect reference to Isaiah in Mark 1:2


What started me on this quest was a book called "An Understandable History of the Bible"
[link to www.chick.com]

After reading that book I then realized there was a problem, so I then read the book "New Age Bible Versions" by Gail Riplinger and it blew my mind on the subject.
[link to shop.avpublications.com (secure)]

Here are some links to help you with your understanding and learning on this matter.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

[link to www.chick.com]

[link to www.chick.com]



 Quoting: Veresanctus


really? you can't rely on any version, but I will say the others stink big time and are worse than the KJV. But the KJV was modified also, as needed by the satanists of this world, so you would support Israel, and as to the bible period, the best of the books were left out, and Paul's crap accepted into it. SAD. His stuff is terrible.

The Chick.com stuff is terrible, really really terrible. Try www.wisdomoftherays.com for more readable material, if you can't handle the Urantia Book.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


Yes. But you're almost retarded. So, honestly it's hard to take anything you say seriously. Sorry, but honesty is the best policy.
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Almost all versions have the gospel but they also say that Lucifer is Jesus Christ (Morning Star) and that of course is just plain wrong.
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A quick look at the Blue Letter Bible shows the KJV as "Lucifer", some with "shining star," some with "day star", some with "star of the morning."

NKJV has a footnote at Lucifer saying "Lit. Day Star."

None have "morning star" capitalized.

I have never known anyone to be confused by this, have you?
 Quoting: Life and Love


Problem is, "star" is not in the original Hebrew in that passage, neither is "morning" as "morning star" is in several translations like the NIV and CEV...

"Lucifer" is the correct translation of Helel, as it is a proper NAME and is the ONLY place that single word occurs in the bible. You tell ME why that is?

This singles out the KJV, why? I believe it's because the KJV is correct and all the others are corrupt. Similar issue with Acts 14:4 and Easter et al.
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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There is nothing wrong with the KJV, except for all those missing books.
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There are no "mission books" as sealed in the chapters of Isaiah (66 books of the whole bible line up with the 66 chapters of the book of Isaiah).
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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eat my cawk ....
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This singles out the KJV, why? I believe it's because the KJV is correct and all the others are corrupt. Similar issue with Acts 14:4 and Easter et al.
 Quoting: Veresanctus


So what do you believe was the motive of those who though "Day Star" was a better rendering than "Lucifer?"

And is not the Greek word that KJV translates into Easter "pashca?" (I don't have my Greek interlinear here at work.)
We become like that to which we are devoted. Choose wisely.
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Could not disagree with you MORE.....

The KJV of the bible is only one of many..

I am not a 'believer' but was raised catholic and could not wait to get out of that church!!!

but I digress..

If you truly believe the bible is God's word, then why would you want to read it in a translation that goes back hundreds of years...

No one in the bible days spoke like that!!!!!!!

they did not say 'thee' and 'thou', and so on!!!!!

Why not get off your asses and look into at LEAST familiarizing yourself with an interlinear version of the old and new testaments?

Now it's not as 'pretty' or easy to read, but at LEAST you'd get/have a better sense of what was actually being said..

No translation will ever come truly close to the language/s that were spoken then!!!!!

But I DO think that if you REALLY want to read God's word, you should go out and get yourselves an interlinear translation......all this means is that you have the original language, and right beneath it are the english words...

It's not as pretty and poetic as the KJV, but I have to think that if I was a devout christian, that that's the way I'd want to read the bible, or at least be familiar with, for example, how my favorite passages and parts of the bible would read in the original languages..

any thoughts?????

please don't rake me over the coals!!!!!!!
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PLEASE watch the videos and links I posted and then after doing so, come back and let me know what you think.

Regarding the "Thee" and "Thou" etc. read this to understand the importance: [link to userpages.bright.net]
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"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. But if ye bite and devour one another, take heed that ye be not consumed one of another.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would. But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God. But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law. And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit. Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." -- Galatians 5:14-26
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King James could not read! So there you go, truth be known.
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Am'mi,
Brother,
Yea, thou are close to the truth. A good start is the New Testament is MATTHEW 17:21. The KJV is the promised 7th level according to PSALM 12:6. Also, check if I JOHN 5:7 is there, proves EXODUS 3:15, the trinity. More importantly it needs to be read according to ISAIAH 28:10&13, line upon line:) Indeed the A.V. text of 1611 is Jesus Christ of Nazareth's love letter for all in all.

the LORD bless thee, and keep thee
Shalom
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I believe the King James version of the Holy Bible is the only English bible we should rely on. I believe it is purified and preserved by the hand of God. I have studied the history of the bible and the creation of modern versions like the NIV, NASB, and NLT et al. and have discovered they are all corrupted.

There are three common signs of corruption:

1. changing Acts 12:4 to "passover" instead of the correct word "Easter" ( [link to www.chick.com]

2. getting rid of Satan's pre-fall angelic name "Lucifer" out of Isaiah 14:12 and even replacing with Morning Star which is Jesus Christ as in Revelation 22:16 ( [link to www.chick.com]

3. an incorrect reference to Isaiah in Mark 1:2


What started me on this quest was a book called "An Understandable History of the Bible"
[link to www.chick.com]

After reading that book I then realized there was a problem, so I then read the book "New Age Bible Versions" by Gail Riplinger and it blew my mind on the subject.
[link to shop.avpublications.com (secure)]

Here are some links to help you with your understanding and learning on this matter.

[link to www.jesus-is-savior.com]

[link to www.chick.com]

[link to www.chick.com]














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 Quoting: Veresanctus


What about the Authentic version of the King James Bible which I have. I have a very tough time finding the Authentic not Authorized KJV by Nelson publishing
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OP, WHAT MAKES YOU THINK "KING" JAMES AND HIS EDITOR FRANCIS BACON AN ALCHEMIST HAD YOUR BEST INTERESTS AT HEART AND NOT THEIRS AND THE ELITE??? rockon

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