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Burt Gummer User ID: 1360940 United States 04/28/2011 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Burt GummerDepends if you are a TRADER...or investor. I see a BEARISH ENGULFING pattern right now. ....a potential short term pullback from a Technical Analysis standpoint. "Painting the Tape" imo The stakes are so high with the big boys now that "Painting the Tape" is not only theoretically possible, but probably is being tried. Candlesticks are good ... but only if they are reflecting the true market dynamics, and with Silver at the moment short term market indicators that can be manipulated with just a day or couple of days of buying/selling are NOT to be trusted. There are times to trust technical indicators ... and times to DIStrust them. It more a smell than anything I can specifically point to, but a smell based upon many years of being in and out of the market ... and having had my head handed to me on a platter more times than I care to admit. As I pointed out above Fundamentals for the physical still appear to be strong. Old Trader Candlesticks are only ONE TOOL in a toolbox of MANY tools. ...as seasoned traders....we both know that. Totally agree! You only have to look at the candle stick pattern on the DOW to see quite clearly that it's being generated by a computer program..look at it!! Just look! ...cute. I agree. Computer algorithms have ruled the markets for a while now. I used to read up on the NEURAL NETWORKS being devised for automated trading years ago. Now you hear nothing about them.....because they are already DONE... DEPLOYED....and they want to keep this quiet. The charts give them away though. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 04/28/2011 04:17 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1361172 Germany 04/28/2011 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long term, I think silver will go much higher. But it went up so much and so fast that a short term pull back could well happen. If industrial demand slows and people start getting skittish, the sellers could pile in but with no buyers. It could go down. Same as with sugar. |
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284dan User ID: 1341176 United States 04/28/2011 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080SILVERTARD HERE... And I hope you're right!!! Another buying opportunity would be great...because anyone with half a brain KNOWS it's eventually going to 50, 100, the moon. They said that in 1980 as well. I remember cause I was there. It might hit $55, or even $60, but I still say it will settle at $25-$33. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 1360940 United States 04/28/2011 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080SILVERTARD HERE... And I hope you're right!!! Another buying opportunity would be great...because anyone with half a brain KNOWS it's eventually going to 50, 100, the moon. They said that in 1980 as well. I remember cause I was there. It might hit $55, or even $60, but I still say it will settle at $25-$33. Not possible until after Nov 2012. We ALL know who is driving the economics of this in 2011. Last Edited by Useless Cookie Eater on 04/28/2011 04:29 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1361151 United States 04/28/2011 04:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1359758"Painting the Tape" imo The stakes are so high with the big boys now that "Painting the Tape" is not only theoretically possible, but probably is being tried. Candlesticks are good ... but only if they are reflecting the true market dynamics, and with Silver at the moment short term market indicators that can be manipulated with just a day or couple of days of buying/selling are NOT to be trusted. There are times to trust technical indicators ... and times to DIStrust them. It more a smell than anything I can specifically point to, but a smell based upon many years of being in and out of the market ... and having had my head handed to me on a platter more times than I care to admit. As I pointed out above Fundamentals for the physical still appear to be strong. Old Trader Candlesticks are only ONE TOOL in a toolbox of MANY tools. ...as seasoned traders....we both know that. Totally agree! You only have to look at the candle stick pattern on the DOW to see quite clearly that it's being generated by a computer program..look at it!! Just look! ...cute. I agree. Computer algorithms have ruled the markets for a while now. I used to read up on the NEURAL NETWORKS being devised for automated trading years ago. Now you hear nothing about them.....because they are already DONE... DEPLOYED....and they want to keep this quiet. The charts give them away though. Seasoned traders? You guys sound like hobbiests to me. You wouldnt know TA from T+ A |
Burt Gummer User ID: 1360940 United States 04/28/2011 04:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Burt GummerCandlesticks are only ONE TOOL in a toolbox of MANY tools. ...as seasoned traders....we both know that. Totally agree! You only have to look at the candle stick pattern on the DOW to see quite clearly that it's being generated by a computer program..look at it!! Just look! ...cute. I agree. Computer algorithms have ruled the markets for a while now. I used to read up on the NEURAL NETWORKS being devised for automated trading years ago. Now you hear nothing about them.....because they are already DONE... DEPLOYED....and they want to keep this quiet. The charts give them away though. Seasoned traders? You guys sound like hobbiests to me. You wouldnt know TA from T+ A Hobbists?? My P&L says otherwise. ...as does my resume. |
get_over_it User ID: 1298231 Canada 04/28/2011 04:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This will be the mother of all shorts, now after all the weak bulls are in the trap. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309387Enjoy! Retard has it backwards. Silver right now has a supply deficit of 300 million ozs per year, that is made up from dwindling government stockpiles and scrap supply, and you can only sell the family silverware once. The shorts are screaming, if we get much above $50 like a dollar or two you could see the mother of all shortcovering rallies. Check out the stats from last year, industrial usage up 20%, investment up 40%, worldwide total investment dollar flow into silver was a measely $5.6 billion, which is 2% of the market cap of Apple, the tech bubble had tens of trillions invested and the housing bubble had hundreds of trillions. [link to www.silverinstitute.org] The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1336768 Canada 04/28/2011 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | idk I thought we would push the 50 mark yesterday and now I am wrong.......... Does anyone know about the whole barrick gold trying to takeover a small copper company?? At 7bil they must now something about copper future price that we dont? |
get_over_it User ID: 1298231 Canada 04/28/2011 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Long term, I think silver will go much higher. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361172But it went up so much and so fast that a short term pull back could well happen. If industrial demand slows and people start getting skittish, the sellers could pile in but with no buyers. It could go down. Same as with sugar. Industrial demand increased 20% last year. Silver has 100 times more new patents each year than all other metals put together. Do you think people right now are more skittish of silver or more skittish of the US dollar? Which way will that trend go over the next couple of years? Is the dollar magically going to get stronger? The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. |
get_over_it User ID: 1298231 Canada 04/28/2011 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | idk I thought we would push the 50 mark yesterday and now I am wrong.......... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1336768Does anyone know about the whole barrick gold trying to takeover a small copper company?? At 7bil they must now something about copper future price that we dont? There are no more large high grade gold deposits left, and the company must continue. The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1309387 Germany 04/28/2011 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you were shorting at around $45 then by now you are in real trouble with your margin requirements and are DEAD. Quoting: Rose CroixIf a loss of 5 dollars in silver give you margin troubles already or more generally if one single trade can kill you, then you should better go back to paper trading until you learned how to manage your risk and your money. I don't have to read any further at this point to know that you have no clue. |
284dan User ID: 1341176 United States 04/28/2011 04:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO????? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1282080SILVERTARD HERE... And I hope you're right!!! Another buying opportunity would be great...because anyone with half a brain KNOWS it's eventually going to 50, 100, the moon. They said that in 1980 as well. I remember cause I was there. It might hit $55, or even $60, but I still say it will settle at $25-$33. Not possible until after Nov 2012. We ALL know who is driving the economics of this in 2011. Maybe not until after November 2012 but it will go back down and those buying now are not going to be happy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 982522 United States 04/28/2011 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Back in the Carter years the economy was in such a mess gold silver all commoditys were up, then along came a great guy by the name of Ronald Reagan who put faith back in our society, the economy flourished and down came the PM's.. this time there is no Ronald Reagan only one inept marxist runnning the show.. no hero on the horizon to give us pause about where our economy is headed.. but down. I look for everything to keep climbing theres no magic out there left. Ya know we are screwed when the Walmart shoppers run dry! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1305019 Germany 04/28/2011 05:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Until now this speaks for a Continuation of the Trend. No Short indicated. (A few spelling mistakes corrected :-)) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1322157 United States 04/28/2011 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Silver dropped UP another 71 cents. Under normal circumstances that would be considered a monster gain for one day, except for recent weeks and months. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1360939How are your shorts, OP - full of silver or full of bull? I bet all these 'experts' who have been calling tops for the last $30 know the truth. They turn all that fiat the gov/jpm pay them with into real silver. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1309387 Germany 04/29/2011 11:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 25 years of trading here. SILVER is going to $51-$52 before the end of the month. Save this post. The shorts are toast. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1226632Hey Mister 25-Years-Of-Trading, where is your $52? Time is running out! Maybe you need to spend yet another 25 years with learning how the markets move. *** BTW: Who removed the pin from this most important, most informative thread of mine of all times? Please pin again! Thank you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1365121 United States 05/02/2011 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | anyone know a good double short silver ETF? Quoting: ^TrInItY^also what about a double long ETF? SLV isn't double long is it? AGQ IS DOUBLE LONG !! ZSL UltraShort Silver ETF Closed at $13.64 Friday. Will open up about 10% today. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1365121 United States 05/02/2011 06:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't say I didn't warn you! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1309387lol. Hey Kraut, you will be kicking yourself for selling all that silver... Oh well, like they say "a fool and his money..." LOL If he shorted Thursday during the day, he called it VERY well. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1309387 Germany 05/02/2011 07:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A joke, jealouse or just plain stupid. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366229Maybe all 3? Would you please explain why I am "plain stupid" because I called a trade and it is happening exactly as I called it? Is it because you were wrong and I was right and somebody who disagrees with you (or with the other lemmings) must be stupid, no matter how right he is? Is this the reason? Then it seems you have found the right forum. Welcome. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1309387 Germany 05/03/2011 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nice OP, when and what will the low be? thanks Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1340472Difficult to call an exact price level but I would stay on the side lines for a few weeks or maybe even months. It will be visible in the charts and present itself when this correction is over and even then I would not jump in at the very first signal. Give it some time. Carefully observe how it behaves at important support levels (previous highs, major trend lines) and also observe how the other major instruments behave. |
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