TomTom sold user data to cops!!! | |
13.0.0.0.0 User ID: 1275609 Australia 04/28/2011 11:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess people are more concerned with Obama's fucking birth certificate. Talk about distraction. The thing that shit me the most about TomTom's statements over this is that TomTom said it will "rethink how it shares personal data". Rethink? Why are you "sharing" data at all? Glad I never got an in-car GPS. And they called me paranoid for it too. Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people. |
Anonymous Coward 04/28/2011 11:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "TomTom says it thought the data would help with traffic flow and had no idea the data would be used to help the cops hand out speeding tickets." Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] |
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ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 1337569 United States 04/28/2011 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Besides selling the user data the situation really begs the question: Why does Tom Tom have user data in the first place. Quoting: Phoenix 2012:TheyDo: I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
13.0.0.0.0 User ID: 1275609 Australia 04/28/2011 11:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Besides selling the user data the situation really begs the question: Why does Tom Tom have user data in the first place. Quoting: Phoenix 2012Exactly. Why go to the expense of storing all that data at all? A: Businesses don't outlay $$$ unless they expect to get some in return. Thanks for pin (on behalf of OP) :) Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people. |
Burt Gummer User ID: 1360940 United States 04/28/2011 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "TomTom says it thought the data would help with traffic flow and had no idea the data would be used to help the cops hand out speeding tickets." Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1168190 United States 04/28/2011 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1342506 United States 04/28/2011 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "TomTom says it thought the data would help with traffic flow and had no idea the data would be used to help the cops hand out speeding tickets." Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] This excuse is worse than their action. Unfortunately in CorporateStan big companies can largely operate with impunity. |
Anonymous Coward 04/28/2011 11:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "TomTom says it thought the data would help with traffic flow and had no idea the data would be used to help the cops hand out speeding tickets." Read more: [link to www.businessinsider.com] This excuse is worse than their action. Unfortunately in CorporateStan big companies can largely operate with impunity. Not if we catch them in streets and shove tom toms up their asses! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1326925 United States 04/28/2011 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We never foresaw this kind of use and many of our clients are not happy about it,” Chief Executive Harold Goddijn wrote in an email sent to customers. He went on to say that licensing agreements in the future would “prevent this type of use in the future.” then later added this to their website We are now aware that the police have used traffic information that you have helped to create to place speed cameras at dangerous locations where the average speed is higher than the legally allowed speed limit. We are aware a lot of our customers do not like the idea and we will look at if we should allow this type of usage. wtf. they said they would stop, now they say welllllllllll |
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antikythera User ID: 1030102 United States 04/28/2011 11:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | catch them in streets and shove tom toms up their asses! Quoting: Phoenix 2012Someone should make that quote a dub step. The wolves among you will devour the sheep. :orbsig: :ninjalapirate: Art Homepage, [link to pondcypress.deviantart.com] Hand carved skull and cross available for purchase, [link to www.artfire.com] |
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13.0.0.0.0 User ID: 1275609 Australia 04/28/2011 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But if they catch you with maps, you may be considered a terrorist because no one uses paper maps anymore - so you must be up to no good ! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1272424I can imagine it. "Paper maps? Why do you need to keep where you're going a secret? You're definitely up to no good!" Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1361620 United States 04/28/2011 11:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We never foresaw this kind of use and many of our clients are not happy about it,” Chief Executive Harold Goddijn wrote in an email sent to customers. He went on to say that licensing agreements in the future would “prevent this type of use in the future.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326925then later added this to their website We are now aware that the police have used traffic information that you have helped to create to place speed cameras at dangerous locations where the average speed is higher than the legally allowed speed limit. We are aware a lot of our customers do not like the idea and we will look at if we should allow this type of usage. wtf. they said they would stop, now they say welllllllllll I do not agree with data collecting without legitimate cause and the authority to do it but what did the customers really think was going to happen? They do it because they can and, like everybody else is doing these days, they'll sell what they gather for a profit. Why should the cops do their own 'research' if there's already somebody else doing it for them? What I bolded up there in your post, is that what is actually happening? If it is, who can argue with the necessity for it? I can see no good reason to dispute the traffic cops' right to watch those areas - they just should have done their own work openly instead of spying in this sneaky manner. |
13.0.0.0.0 User ID: 1275609 Australia 04/28/2011 11:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | catch them in streets and shove tom toms up their asses! Quoting: Phoenix 2012Someone should make that quote a dub step. LOL. "Hiiide yo' TomToms..." Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1326925 United States 04/28/2011 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a former truck driver.I used to use tom tom to find my way.I got stopped by DOT and they wanted to see my log books so I showed them.My log books didn't match my tom tom's time and location of my trip so they confiscated my tom tom and my CDLs.Now I lost my license and I can't drive.Fuck tom tom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 279896is that a true story? thats crazy that could ever happen but i certainly dont doubt it |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1193530 United States 04/28/2011 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Got busted in the Netherlands but they are probably doing it everywhere. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1360821[link to www.businessinsider.com] Just learn to read maps, people! fuuuuudge holy cow my paranoia about GPS and cell phones and their info being sold or handed over was true. So i am not such a dumb ass for having no gps and a dumb pay by the minute cell Fuck man |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1326925 United States 04/28/2011 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | “We never foresaw this kind of use and many of our clients are not happy about it,” Chief Executive Harold Goddijn wrote in an email sent to customers. He went on to say that licensing agreements in the future would “prevent this type of use in the future.” Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326925then later added this to their website We are now aware that the police have used traffic information that you have helped to create to place speed cameras at dangerous locations where the average speed is higher than the legally allowed speed limit. We are aware a lot of our customers do not like the idea and we will look at if we should allow this type of usage. wtf. they said they would stop, now they say welllllllllll I do not agree with data collecting without legitimate cause and the authority to do it but what did the customers really think was going to happen? They do it because they can and, like everybody else is doing these days, they'll sell what they gather for a profit. Why should the cops do their own 'research' if there's already somebody else doing it for them? What I bolded up there in your post, is that what is actually happening? If it is, who can argue with the necessity for it? I can see no good reason to dispute the traffic cops' right to watch those areas - they just should have done their own work openly instead of spying in this sneaky manner. i agree with most of what your saying but here in the states traffic cameras issuing tickets is unconstitutional and most of the time get thrown out of court for hearsay, most people dont know that but its the truth. you have a right to face your accuser in the court of law and since that camera cant show up and testify, ticket gets squashed |
13.0.0.0.0 User ID: 1275609 Australia 04/28/2011 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | to place speed cameras at dangerous locations where the average speed is higher than the legally allowed speed limit. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1326925What I bolded up there in your post, is that what is actually happening? If it is, who can argue with the necessity for it? I can see no good reason to dispute the traffic cops' right to watch those areas - they just should have done their own work openly instead of spying in this sneaky manner. Careful of the spin, though. In Australia they define breaking the speed limit as automatically dangerous, so anywhere that can be shown where Joe Citizen is breaking the speed limit en masse must automatically be a huge danger zone. Proper road engineers would (correctly) argue that since the 85th percentile* is copping a beating here, then obviously the speed limit is set too low. *85th percentile: The speed that 85% of drivers feel comfortable at on a given stretch of road. So in other words, they didn't use the data for driver safety, they did it for $$$. The same reason why TomTom stored the data in the first place. $$$. Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1193530 United States 04/28/2011 11:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a former truck driver.I used to use tom tom to find my way.I got stopped by DOT and they wanted to see my log books so I showed them.My log books didn't match my tom tom's time and location of my trip so they confiscated my tom tom and my CDLs.Now I lost my license and I can't drive.Fuck tom tom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 279896is that a true story? thats crazy that could ever happen but i certainly dont doubt it wooow wait just a minute go to the press with this stuff man. Holy freaking cow this is big brother here: GPS, smart phones. Me, I warned my family THAT TECHNOLOGY CAN BE USED AGAINST YOU. BUT OH it's sooo easy to punch in that dumb ass GPS or cell phone for shit. Well looky now no personal freedom. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 279896 United States 04/28/2011 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm a former truck driver.I used to use tom tom to find my way.I got stopped by DOT and they wanted to see my log books so I showed them.My log books didn't match my tom tom's time and location of my trip so they confiscated my tom tom and my CDLs.Now I lost my license and I can't drive.Fuck tom tom. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 279896is that a true story? thats crazy that could ever happen but i certainly dont doubt it Yes.Not only that but they wouldn't let me drive the truck because they said I was over my hours.They had the truck towed and inpounded and I had to call my wife to come pick me up. |
13.0.0.0.0 User ID: 1275609 Australia 04/28/2011 11:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | fuuuuudge Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1193530holy cow my paranoia about GPS and cell phones and their info being sold or handed over was true. So i am not such a dumb ass for having no gps and a dumb pay by the minute cell Fuck man Don't worry, I'm with you man. I never did the GPS thing, although I did have a mobile phone for a few years. One day it just really got to me how the phone actually knew where it was all the time and would blatantly display locality information on the screen. It's okay to be unplugged :) Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1278256 United States 04/28/2011 11:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When it comes time to replace my garmin, be assured that it won't be with a tom tom." I pulled this quote from one of the comments on Business Insider, to actually believe that it was only TomTom that does this would be foolish, TomTom just got caught, thats all. IMAGE ( [link to i52.tinypic.com] ) |
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