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ARKURA THE INTERDIMENSIONAL BEING WILL NOW REVEAL "SOME" MYSTERIES OF THE UNIVERSE!!

 
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heya - great Post!

Question I have - and maybe your topic here is the same of covers my thoughts that wont go away and seem to want to form into some idea I can grasp.

Anyway, Opposites is my focus - various types both conceptual and physical in nature and concept. Also with regard to opposites can describe included a theoretical center point, or balance point. Similar to when I walk, I balance between several different forces - I am attempting to a hold a center point (balance) and need to update my outputs constantly based on changing conditions moment by moment (time)

I see some secret societies possibly making references to the interactions of opposites.

My theory in my head wants to tell me they are needed, they are part of a proper design and... they actually cause evolution to occur - things change, people too, when presented with extra burdens call it.

Lets look at the opposites, you speak of them, I can start at a dot and claim from the one dot, I can make another dot, and it is identical in the way you spoke it?! the dot, and the dot (not) call it. lack of not or as you say a 1 or a 0. something, and nothing (a pair of opposites, a dipole design)

in my head, I see a conceptual sphere of vectors call it, like a colorwheel gently blending from one color to another in a patterned relationship, eventually even cycling to the opposite color. Like a sine wave gently drifting in amplitude up to peak then back across center, and into the opposite state. a cycle, a wave.

Not sure, the theory will not go away and my head wont stop thinking about it for some reason.

a 3D sphere of all possible opposites, gently blending between each other (based on their relationships to each other) and center point is 0. it is the original dot - now expanded in all directions to represent all possible concepts and the relationships between them. The Big Bang was all the concepts along each of their vectors creatign a giant conceptual sphere.


not sure, I maybe be chasing ghosts in my head here! let me either remove them or confirm them.

thanks!! keep talking, Imma likin' it.
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Secret society opposites...such as "as above, so below"? Yes you are right and you are grasping some important conceptual ideas that I think I can touch on further. However on that note I should point out that Careful about some of the secret society stuff...because truth merged with a lie is the most dangerous dissemination of all. If I were to say as above so below, I might be correct, but who are they saying is above, and who below? What happens if I take the dipoles of good and evil and I state they exist in opposition, I would appear to have the authority of truth wouldnt I...but what if I switched them so that good was evil and evil was good...I could still represent the truth of their divided nature, yet insert a horrific lie in the truth that you may not be aware of unless your looking. Long story short, keep your eyes open!

So heres some stuff about circles and opposites for you to munch on.

If we take a dot -----> .

and treat it as a singualrity, there is no way we can know it. Why? because there is nothing (no opposite to compare it to.)

You need opposited to create knowledge. But what about heisenbergs uncertainty principle, when you know something, it changes the thing that you know...

We can see this in action:

If we take a point of singularity and create an "is" and an is not...what shape does it take?

this-----> .

Becomes this------> O

That is your big bang. Like a balloon being inflated. Inside is nothing/not. In a circle around it is something/is.

we went from an infinate unknowable everythingnothing and broke it into parts.

The only way we can know the unkowable is to have something to describe it by.

Gnu is not Ung. Ung is not Gnu.

We create a circular argument. We create a particle (litterally a part of the whole).

O

It is now knowable because we have something to compare it by. The outer is not the inner and the inner is not the outer. (In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth).

Outside is the circle of the heavens, and the inside is the deep formless void of the earth, nothingness below somethingness.

When you Know something that is unknowable, you divide it into parts, because if you dont, its still unknowable, there is nothing to describe it by.

So what happens when you collapse a wave function? It becomes a particle! Why? because you observed it! Your knowing it made it into parts! a particle!

So whats inside the void? Nothing...its empty 3 dimensional space. How do you represent 3 dimensional empty space? a black cube?

What surrounds the outside? the circle of heaven and all its hosts....it revolves around the black empty cube of space.

(If you want to see this idea as it was handed down in religion, look at the circling of the qaaba in mecca)

this idea works on so many levels of creation...you create an empty womb and inside you have the inception of the thing you are creating. (And god said let their be light).

God in heaven speaks into the black void---->O becomes G

and he divides the light from the darkness ---> D

Look at cell division, look at how the planets go around the sun, look at how electrons go around the nucleus of an atom...this pattern is repeated everywhere...

So you will notice an interesting thing...when God creates by a division in this fashion the singularity becomes a circle . -----> O and this represents seperation of opposites. When God wanted to set man apart from paradise for his sin, he created an angel with a sword (cut/seperate) that turned in all directions at once. When he wanted to seperate the seed of abrahams loins apart from the rest of humanity for a special chosen purpose he instituted what? Circumcision!

When God made a covenant after the flood with noah he set is rainbow in the clouds...

the principle of dividing into two parts is a circle, god sits upon the circle of heaven.

So now about your balance vs. a center point...

if i make a mass of something as a dot, and then take something from it and put it into orbit around the center, it is still the same thing...

weather it is this----> .

or this------> O

they are two expressions of the same. Light can be both a particle and a wave. I can express something as 0 or -1+1. the partition of it does not change the wholeness of it and the centerpoint is still the essence of its being.

but the thing that is rotating around the center does not have to be a complete loop. think of propellar blades on a fan. When its stopped, I can put my hand between the spaces but when its turning the circle edge acts like a vibrating shell so that the barrier is consistant. This is like energy, electrons etc. they dont occupie every spot at once but exist in waves and the collective circular movement creates a sort of fuzzy shell.

because they are part of the center or the whole, whch is now void in our particle---> O they are still one, yet it is the vibration of the waves as continuos movement that makes it a state of energy, but the moment we look at it (know it) to see exactly where the propeller blade is, we again create a something/nothing that is the epty space and the space that is the blade, therefore the wave has collapsed into a particle.

To know the spiritual things is to break them into parts. When we do they go from wave to particle from energy state to material state. The only way to know the inside of bread is to break it, but when you do that you change it so that you cant really be certain of the unkowable substance before you knew it. If spirit was wine, then the body would be bread yet they are one.

Hope that helps!

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I guess my question is this: we seem to somehow need evil people to allow good people, same as we need up to allow down, and we need nothing to allow something?

so I sort of see all the "bad things" that men in power doing as something they themselves have to live with, every moment of their life, based on whatever values they have created. For me to act as they do would offer a very empty and hollow feeling. To be so greedy and power hungry. YET, I do not see this is "wrong" I see it as a Time to Learn. for them, as a time to "actually go be evil and do it" and then to experience it, and to know it. then they decide or Choose not to be like that. that takes time to learn, and have lessons call it (murphy, karma, many names for the Self centering effect caused by dipoles and their forced center point)

dipole - two opposites and a theoretical center-point which cannot be altered unless the relationship of the one or two of the two opposites changes. then the center point will only acknowledge 1/2 of a given opposite's motion while still offering 1/2 of the influence to the other opposite of the pair.

interesting relationship, I think it is a the root of all evolution, a self contained motion creation device - the dipole engine. opposites. Like we use it to evolve ourselves now, we take a pair of opposites for example Government. Left wing / Right wing. those two then oppose each other and evolution starts to occur (in theory)

also, I think the secret societies know that BOTH opposites must ALWAYS be considered in any endeavor. (masons use a symbolic blk/wht floor to show the fact that everything has its opposite and opposites can be defined in many ways.

I think we need to consider always both forces (good AND evil as part of the whole) nd even expect them, not attack them though. liek a bird uses two opposing energy devices (wings) and together, opposing each other, the bird Flies and achieves a new level of understanding due to cooperation of his main pair of opposites. something like that?...


thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1153486


Well I would disagree about there being a need to learn evil so that they can get a lesson from it. If you take the position that good can not exist without evil, and evil is corrected in them, does that too mean that the good would have to likewise turn evil to balance out the scale?

And if so...what happens when -1 and +1 come back together? You uncreate/anhilate the things that you created.

I see it more like this...It is not for man to know both Good and Evil, because that is the positon reserved only for the creator of the two dipoles, and if man knew this, can he maintain the seperation? or will he eventually anhilate himself in the knowledge? It was once said that a man who can hold two contrary thoughts in his mind without going insane is a genius. How long can man keep good and evil separate? How long can one pretend to be good on the outside and inside have secret evils before it eats him up inside and he disintegrates? how hard it must be to sleep at night for such a man.

Rather, if the creator made such dipoles, let a man choose a side, for as long as creation will exist, even for eternity, these two will be seperated, and both will be judged according to their deeds, both just reward or punishment for evil. Man is not god, he is created by god, so let him choose a side of creation. Any group or society secret or otherwise who is attempting to maintain hold of good and evil and use it to their advantage is only maintaining something they can not and trying to take the position and throne of god. It can not succeed.
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Hello, can you tell us a bit about the Age of Aquarius and the evolution of consciousness. Since Earth/Terra is in the process of becoming 5D, what will happen to those who will not be here for that. Will some of us be returning to our places of origin in other D's/worlds beyond the stars? What about the 7 ray's and esoteric astrology that? About karma and where does that play into our progress. Does recantation end at a certain point and do we/are choose/chosen for out next destination?

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I guess my question is this: we seem to somehow need evil people to allow good people, same as we need up to allow down, and we need nothing to allow something?

so I sort of see all the "bad things" that men in power doing as something they themselves have to live with, every moment of their life, based on whatever values they have created. For me to act as they do would offer a very empty and hollow feeling. To be so greedy and power hungry. YET, I do not see this is "wrong" I see it as a Time to Learn. for them, as a time to "actually go be evil and do it" and then to experience it, and to know it. then they decide or Choose not to be like that. that takes time to learn, and have lessons call it (murphy, karma, many names for the Self centering effect caused by dipoles and their forced center point)

dipole - two opposites and a theoretical center-point which cannot be altered unless the relationship of the one or two of the two opposites changes. then the center point will only acknowledge 1/2 of a given opposite's motion while still offering 1/2 of the influence to the other opposite of the pair.

interesting relationship, I think it is a the root of all evolution, a self contained motion creation device - the dipole engine. opposites. Like we use it to evolve ourselves now, we take a pair of opposites for example Government. Left wing / Right wing. those two then oppose each other and evolution starts to occur (in theory)

also, I think the secret societies know that BOTH opposites must ALWAYS be considered in any endeavor. (masons use a symbolic blk/wht floor to show the fact that everything has its opposite and opposites can be defined in many ways.

I think we need to consider always both forces (good AND evil as part of the whole) nd even expect them, not attack them though. liek a bird uses two opposing energy devices (wings) and together, opposing each other, the bird Flies and achieves a new level of understanding due to cooperation of his main pair of opposites. something like that?...


thank you.
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Well I would disagree about there being a need to learn evil so that they can get a lesson from it. If you take the position that good can not exist without evil, and evil is corrected in them, does that too mean that the good would have to likewise turn evil to balance out the scale?

And if so...what happens when -1 and +1 come back together? You uncreate/anhilate the things that you created.

I see it more like this...It is not for man to know both Good and Evil, because that is the positon reserved only for the creator of the two dipoles, and if man knew this, can he maintain the seperation? or will he eventually anhilate himself in the knowledge? It was once said that a man who can hold two contrary thoughts in his mind without going insane is a genius. How long can man keep good and evil separate? How long can one pretend to be good on the outside and inside have secret evils before it eats him up inside and he disintegrates? how hard it must be to sleep at night for such a man.

Rather, if the creator made such dipoles, let a man choose a side, for as long as creation will exist, even for eternity, these two will be seperated, and both will be judged according to their deeds, both just reward or punishment for evil. Man is not god, he is created by god, so let him choose a side of creation. Any group or society secret or otherwise who is attempting to maintain hold of good and evil and use it to their advantage is only maintaining something they can not and trying to take the position and throne of god. It can not succeed.
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hmmm

Your theory has a bias and a preference toward "good" (one side of a dipole pair) that will never allow any balance of those two forces to occur. I prefer to look at the wave of changing events as opposed to digital snapshops of waves then try to define the current polarity / amplitude / freq. of such a concept as a single moment in time, fixed state.

Everything cycles - everything is a cycle. If you ask will good cycle from good to bad? - I answer "it can if it chooses to" - either side chosen will offer a taste of the other side in he end as a full sine wave cycle will be created. move toward good, you will experience evil. Maybe as lessons, maybe as text in a book, but evil will be exposed - understanding will be gained as a result too! ( a good thing)

the fact you ask me to limit my view to one side or another tells me something.

good day.
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Hello, can you tell us a bit about the Age of Aquarius and the evolution of consciousness. Since Earth/Terra is in the process of becoming 5D, what will happen to those who will not be here for that. Will some of us be returning to our places of origin in other D's/worlds beyond the stars? What about the 7 ray's and esoteric astrology that? About karma and where does that play into our progress. Does recantation end at a certain point and do we/are choose/chosen for out next destination?

Thank you.
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Lets break those down...

Aquarious is a water bearer and a time of pouring out of spirit in the last days

The earth terra is not becoming 5d, it is 5d, it exists there...as do you all, what makes you all "3d" is that you lack the freedom of mobility in higher dimensionality, not that you dont have a place in them. Your barrier of mobility stops at 3d, and as a fixed point you cant see know or grasp the higher realms. At least not with 3d physicality.

Man was in a place called paradise, man fell, some will return. 7 rays cant talk on. on Karma - if you do good, good comes back to you, but this is a closed loop system. Its working and never seeming to be able to get out of debt. When someone does evil to you, do them good...when they hate you love them back. But you must also ask forgiveness of god, hes the author of infinate graces. Without God in the equation, you are merely recycling so that nothing new is given to the system, and if evil is in the system with good, how will it ever be overcome. Its not just enough to love man only, you must love God first and love man as yourself. Now you have a circuit that works! others do you wrong you forgive their debt, you do wrong god forgives you, and the debt of the world god takes upon himself. See how that works? How god then redeems the world? without god in the equation the debts are still stuck in the world and try as you might you will never be free of them. As far as choice...god creates, you exist once here, you make choices. God knows them He knows the paths. He creates their destinations, but he gives you the choice and you choose it. He knows what you will choose yet you choose it. There are two ways...one leads to paradise, the other to a place to be avoided. Choose wisely.
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I guess my question is this: we seem to somehow need evil people to allow good people, same as we need up to allow down, and we need nothing to allow something?

so I sort of see all the "bad things" that men in power doing as something they themselves have to live with, every moment of their life, based on whatever values they have created. For me to act as they do would offer a very empty and hollow feeling. To be so greedy and power hungry. YET, I do not see this is "wrong" I see it as a Time to Learn. for them, as a time to "actually go be evil and do it" and then to experience it, and to know it. then they decide or Choose not to be like that. that takes time to learn, and have lessons call it (murphy, karma, many names for the Self centering effect caused by dipoles and their forced center point)

dipole - two opposites and a theoretical center-point which cannot be altered unless the relationship of the one or two of the two opposites changes. then the center point will only acknowledge 1/2 of a given opposite's motion while still offering 1/2 of the influence to the other opposite of the pair.

interesting relationship, I think it is a the root of all evolution, a self contained motion creation device - the dipole engine. opposites. Like we use it to evolve ourselves now, we take a pair of opposites for example Government. Left wing / Right wing. those two then oppose each other and evolution starts to occur (in theory)

also, I think the secret societies know that BOTH opposites must ALWAYS be considered in any endeavor. (masons use a symbolic blk/wht floor to show the fact that everything has its opposite and opposites can be defined in many ways.

I think we need to consider always both forces (good AND evil as part of the whole) nd even expect them, not attack them though. liek a bird uses two opposing energy devices (wings) and together, opposing each other, the bird Flies and achieves a new level of understanding due to cooperation of his main pair of opposites. something like that?...


thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1153486


Well I would disagree about there being a need to learn evil so that they can get a lesson from it. If you take the position that good can not exist without evil, and evil is corrected in them, does that too mean that the good would have to likewise turn evil to balance out the scale?

And if so...what happens when -1 and +1 come back together? You uncreate/anhilate the things that you created.

I see it more like this...It is not for man to know both Good and Evil, because that is the positon reserved only for the creator of the two dipoles, and if man knew this, can he maintain the seperation? or will he eventually anhilate himself in the knowledge? It was once said that a man who can hold two contrary thoughts in his mind without going insane is a genius. How long can man keep good and evil separate? How long can one pretend to be good on the outside and inside have secret evils before it eats him up inside and he disintegrates? how hard it must be to sleep at night for such a man.

Rather, if the creator made such dipoles, let a man choose a side, for as long as creation will exist, even for eternity, these two will be seperated, and both will be judged according to their deeds, both just reward or punishment for evil. Man is not god, he is created by god, so let him choose a side of creation. Any group or society secret or otherwise who is attempting to maintain hold of good and evil and use it to their advantage is only maintaining something they can not and trying to take the position and throne of god. It can not succeed.
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hmmm

Your theory has a bias and a preference toward "good" (one side of a dipole pair) that will never allow any balance of those two forces to occur. I prefer to look at the wave of changing events as opposed to digital snapshops of waves then try to define the current polarity / amplitude / freq. of such a concept as a single moment in time, fixed state.

Everything cycles - everything is a cycle. If you ask will good cycle from good to bad? - I answer "it can if it chooses to" - either side chosen will offer a taste of the other side in he end as a full sine wave cycle will be created. move toward good, you will experience evil. Maybe as lessons, maybe as text in a book, but evil will be exposed - understanding will be gained as a result too! ( a good thing)

the fact you ask me to limit my view to one side or another tells me something.

good day.
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indeed evil will be exposed, but as far as everything cycles...if i draw a line in two opposite directions from a starting point into infinity <-----.-----> will the two ends ever meet? If you are one part of the whole and they the other, as particles, one evil the other good, the scales are balanced, neither particle has to become good or evil for the scales to be balanced, they could maintain their attributes into infinity.

As far as only knowing one or the other...why do you have a problem with that? Are you the one who knows and divides all good from evil? Are you the ultimate judge of the universe? do you sit on the throne of god?

Since you are clearly not then you are subject and judged by that higher authority, and as such you will be put into one camp or the other as all will. If you dont like the fact that you cant be the knower and judge of good and evil then your really in for a shock, because only God holds that position.
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I guess my question is this: we seem to somehow need evil people to allow good people, same as we need up to allow down, and we need nothing to allow something?

so I sort of see all the "bad things" that men in power doing as something they themselves have to live with, every moment of their life, based on whatever values they have created. For me to act as they do would offer a very empty and hollow feeling. To be so greedy and power hungry. YET, I do not see this is "wrong" I see it as a Time to Learn. for them, as a time to "actually go be evil and do it" and then to experience it, and to know it. then they decide or Choose not to be like that. that takes time to learn, and have lessons call it (murphy, karma, many names for the Self centering effect caused by dipoles and their forced center point)

dipole - two opposites and a theoretical center-point which cannot be altered unless the relationship of the one or two of the two opposites changes. then the center point will only acknowledge 1/2 of a given opposite's motion while still offering 1/2 of the influence to the other opposite of the pair.

interesting relationship, I think it is a the root of all evolution, a self contained motion creation device - the dipole engine. opposites. Like we use it to evolve ourselves now, we take a pair of opposites for example Government. Left wing / Right wing. those two then oppose each other and evolution starts to occur (in theory)

also, I think the secret societies know that BOTH opposites must ALWAYS be considered in any endeavor. (masons use a symbolic blk/wht floor to show the fact that everything has its opposite and opposites can be defined in many ways.

I think we need to consider always both forces (good AND evil as part of the whole) nd even expect them, not attack them though. liek a bird uses two opposing energy devices (wings) and together, opposing each other, the bird Flies and achieves a new level of understanding due to cooperation of his main pair of opposites. something like that?...


thank you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1153486


Well I would disagree about there being a need to learn evil so that they can get a lesson from it. If you take the position that good can not exist without evil, and evil is corrected in them, does that too mean that the good would have to likewise turn evil to balance out the scale?

And if so...what happens when -1 and +1 come back together? You uncreate/anhilate the things that you created.

I see it more like this...It is not for man to know both Good and Evil, because that is the positon reserved only for the creator of the two dipoles, and if man knew this, can he maintain the seperation? or will he eventually anhilate himself in the knowledge? It was once said that a man who can hold two contrary thoughts in his mind without going insane is a genius. How long can man keep good and evil separate? How long can one pretend to be good on the outside and inside have secret evils before it eats him up inside and he disintegrates? how hard it must be to sleep at night for such a man.

Rather, if the creator made such dipoles, let a man choose a side, for as long as creation will exist, even for eternity, these two will be seperated, and both will be judged according to their deeds, both just reward or punishment for evil. Man is not god, he is created by god, so let him choose a side of creation. Any group or society secret or otherwise who is attempting to maintain hold of good and evil and use it to their advantage is only maintaining something they can not and trying to take the position and throne of god. It can not succeed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1361497


hmmm

Your theory has a bias and a preference toward "good" (one side of a dipole pair) that will never allow any balance of those two forces to occur. I prefer to look at the wave of changing events as opposed to digital snapshops of waves then try to define the current polarity / amplitude / freq. of such a concept as a single moment in time, fixed state.

Everything cycles - everything is a cycle. If you ask will good cycle from good to bad? - I answer "it can if it chooses to" - either side chosen will offer a taste of the other side in he end as a full sine wave cycle will be created. move toward good, you will experience evil. Maybe as lessons, maybe as text in a book, but evil will be exposed - understanding will be gained as a result too! ( a good thing)

the fact you ask me to limit my view to one side or another tells me something.

good day.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1153486


indeed evil will be exposed, but as far as everything cycles...if i draw a line in two opposite directions from a starting point into infinity <-----.-----> will the two ends ever meet? If you are one part of the whole and they the other, as particles, one evil the other good, the scales are balanced, neither particle has to become good or evil for the scales to be balanced, they could maintain their attributes into infinity.

As far as only knowing one or the other...why do you have a problem with that? Are you the one who knows and divides all good from evil? Are you the ultimate judge of the universe? do you sit on the throne of god?

Since you are clearly not then you are subject and judged by that higher authority, and as such you will be put into one camp or the other as all will. If you dont like the fact that you cant be the knower and judge of good and evil then your really in for a shock, because only God holds that position.
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<-----.-----> will the two ends ever meet? YES, see the DOT? that is the "source of both lines" and where they meet. no they are not the same, they are opposites. and they started as one (from the dot) equal in length always as the center point auto-centers always on a vector.

We walk using both left and right leaning - go ahead my friend, remove right, and only lean left - go ahead. or better, remove your brake pedal huh? all force needs it's opposite to regulate the original force, the opposite energy. I feel this strongly and see it all around me. Di pole effect. Same holds true in all concepts I believe. Church needs a bad guy to exist. the bad guy needs the church to exist. in the middle is "overall balance" no, its not biased to either good or evil but over "time" (the wave) all will be experienced in the full cycle. We cannot balance with only 1/2 of a cycle. your dot cannot exist without a dot-not (nothing) the two ends - the dot and it's not-dot are both from the same source and they touch, right there. - touch in concept as everything is jsut a concept inside the minds of humans - which is a cpu + 5 sensor data streams. concepts are all there is my friend.

I do not divide the two forces and admire one over the other, no, I dont because I neither look at it (divide it) nor judge it (i avoid all things j.u.d. in origin, i hate lies) I accept that I know it is a dipole relationship because I can see it. it follows the dipole pattern.

and what does me accept both opposites (as I do in all aspects of everything I ever got involved with) have to do with me claiming to be God? That statement tells my your origin and also that tells me your motive.

I am judged, constantly, by the one who knows me best who cannot be lied to. Sigils (your words) are used by deceptive little pathetic life forms. They enjoy casting a form of magic (illusion, lies, deception) using sigils and other media forms. they are pathetic little weak beings.... always hiding behind a lie (or 50) always seeking material things and power. they enjoy all things j.u.d. as they are the creators of all things j.u.d.

goodbye little one have fun trying to get everyone to fall over (off balance) you appear to be working hard at it.
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Well I would disagree about there being a need to learn evil so that they can get a lesson from it. If you take the position that good can not exist without evil, and evil is corrected in them, does that too mean that the good would have to likewise turn evil to balance out the scale?

And if so...what happens when -1 and +1 come back together? You uncreate/anhilate the things that you created.

I see it more like this...It is not for man to know both Good and Evil, because that is the positon reserved only for the creator of the two dipoles, and if man knew this, can he maintain the seperation? or will he eventually anhilate himself in the knowledge? It was once said that a man who can hold two contrary thoughts in his mind without going insane is a genius. How long can man keep good and evil separate? How long can one pretend to be good on the outside and inside have secret evils before it eats him up inside and he disintegrates? how hard it must be to sleep at night for such a man.

Rather, if the creator made such dipoles, let a man choose a side, for as long as creation will exist, even for eternity, these two will be seperated, and both will be judged according to their deeds, both just reward or punishment for evil. Man is not god, he is created by god, so let him choose a side of creation. Any group or society secret or otherwise who is attempting to maintain hold of good and evil and use it to their advantage is only maintaining something they can not and trying to take the position and throne of god. It can not succeed.
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hmmm

Your theory has a bias and a preference toward "good" (one side of a dipole pair) that will never allow any balance of those two forces to occur. I prefer to look at the wave of changing events as opposed to digital snapshops of waves then try to define the current polarity / amplitude / freq. of such a concept as a single moment in time, fixed state.

Everything cycles - everything is a cycle. If you ask will good cycle from good to bad? - I answer "it can if it chooses to" - either side chosen will offer a taste of the other side in he end as a full sine wave cycle will be created. move toward good, you will experience evil. Maybe as lessons, maybe as text in a book, but evil will be exposed - understanding will be gained as a result too! ( a good thing)

the fact you ask me to limit my view to one side or another tells me something.

good day.
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indeed evil will be exposed, but as far as everything cycles...if i draw a line in two opposite directions from a starting point into infinity <-----.-----> will the two ends ever meet? If you are one part of the whole and they the other, as particles, one evil the other good, the scales are balanced, neither particle has to become good or evil for the scales to be balanced, they could maintain their attributes into infinity.

As far as only knowing one or the other...why do you have a problem with that? Are you the one who knows and divides all good from evil? Are you the ultimate judge of the universe? do you sit on the throne of god?

Since you are clearly not then you are subject and judged by that higher authority, and as such you will be put into one camp or the other as all will. If you dont like the fact that you cant be the knower and judge of good and evil then your really in for a shock, because only God holds that position.
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<-----.-----> will the two ends ever meet? YES, see the DOT? that is the "source of both lines" and where they meet. no they are not the same, they are opposites. and they started as one (from the dot) equal in length always as the center point auto-centers always on a vector.

We walk using both left and right leaning - go ahead my friend, remove right, and only lean left - go ahead. or better, remove your brake pedal huh? all force needs it's opposite to regulate the original force, the opposite energy. I feel this strongly and see it all around me. Di pole effect. Same holds true in all concepts I believe. Church needs a bad guy to exist. the bad guy needs the church to exist. in the middle is "overall balance" no, its not biased to either good or evil but over "time" (the wave) all will be experienced in the full cycle. We cannot balance with only 1/2 of a cycle. your dot cannot exist without a dot-not (nothing) the two ends - the dot and it's not-dot are both from the same source and they touch, right there. - touch in concept as everything is jsut a concept inside the minds of humans - which is a cpu + 5 sensor data streams. concepts are all there is my friend.

I do not divide the two forces and admire one over the other, no, I dont because I neither look at it (divide it) nor judge it (i avoid all things j.u.d. in origin, i hate lies) I accept that I know it is a dipole relationship because I can see it. it follows the dipole pattern.

and what does me accept both opposites (as I do in all aspects of everything I ever got involved with) have to do with me claiming to be God? That statement tells my your origin and also that tells me your motive.

I am judged, constantly, by the one who knows me best who cannot be lied to. Sigils (your words) are used by deceptive little pathetic life forms. They enjoy casting a form of magic (illusion, lies, deception) using sigils and other media forms. they are pathetic little weak beings.... always hiding behind a lie (or 50) always seeking material things and power. they enjoy all things j.u.d. as they are the creators of all things j.u.d.

goodbye little one have fun trying to get everyone to fall over (off balance) you appear to be working hard at it.
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The dot is the point of origin...but the opposite ends dont meet, or it would be a circle not a line.

a good guy and a bad guy share a dot, in that they both have a common point of creation, but once they leave the dot the balance comes in that one is good and the other is bad. this is not off balanced. The one can be totally good and never know any evil at all if the other is totally bad and never knows good then they are balanced. If you want to know both in yourself you are acting as the point of creation, and not one of the created things. You are not the creater, you are one side or the other. God is the creator. So it does balance out.
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ok day and night, they share "the sun" as do all dipoles share "us".

Night does not care that day has the sun, and day does not care that night has "the lack of the sun" (opposite) together...once again I repeat, Together, they create a cycle called a day. that is my point. I say all opposite pairs share that goal too, to combine, together, to form a "wave" and evolve. Or as you advise, to stay on one "Part" (end, opposite) or Particle. and not evolve, merely continue the same old patterns. No, I am not God and dont even ask such things not look. You do though. in the form of a gate.

I see full cycles, you prefer 1/2 cycles (half side of your choosing) ok, fine, Time allows a thing called "evolution, which a result of life forms moving off balance, and allowing them time to see what is there, and learn, and decide better for himself later. with out exposure to opposites, BOTH sides, we have no control, are lost (need a guide...) it is the goal of the liars to keep us off balance with promise of balance that never arrives.

I will balance. I will also learn lessons while trying to balance, that is what we do.
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ok day and night, they share "the sun" as do all dipoles share "us".

Night does not care that day has the sun, and day does not care that night has "the lack of the sun" (opposite) together...once again I repeat, Together, they create a cycle called a day. that is my point. I say all opposite pairs share that goal too, to combine, together, to form a "wave" and evolve. Or as you advise, to stay on one "Part" (end, opposite) or Particle. and not evolve, merely continue the same old patterns. No, I am not God and dont even ask such things not look. You do though. in the form of a gate.

I see full cycles, you prefer 1/2 cycles (half side of your choosing) ok, fine, Time allows a thing called "evolution, which a result of life forms moving off balance, and allowing them time to see what is there, and learn, and decide better for himself later. with out exposure to opposites, BOTH sides, we have no control, are lost (need a guide...) it is the goal of the liars to keep us off balance with promise of balance that never arrives.

I will balance. I will also learn lessons while trying to balance, that is what we do.
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ok you say you will balance. and how will you keep -1 and +1 from coming together? how will you keep two diametrically opposed opposites inside you without favoring one over the other, thereby creating an imbalance?

Shrodingers cat....If your mind is the box, and the cat is inside, and I ask you, is the cat dead or alive...what will you say? that it is both?

thats impossible. it cant be both. if you try to maintain two seperate opposite ideas inside your mind you can never know any truth at all. You can only know truth by choosing one or the other. Only the mind of god can know both simultaneously.

If you say the cat cycles, so that it is alive, dead, alive, dead...how can this be...it is one or the other but then when it is dead it is dead. Not all things cycle, Some things progress on a linear path not a wave or circle, and where you have opposites on a line you have to make a choice..and even if that choice makes you more good or more evil, it balances with your dipole, but you can never be the balance point on all things because you would never be able to know anything...there would only be a series of opposites and you would zero your thinking out.

Shrodingers cat is either alive or not, to balance that is to lose the ability to know and make choices.
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Op,

I was not goingbto reply anymore but fortunately I have use of a laptop so I can respond off and on at work!
(maybe)

I am trying to pass the message to everyone but seem to have a lot if non-believers! JESUS help them to open their hearts and minds!
I love you all!

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It bothers me that you present yourself as some inerrant type being and yet you spell as horribly as all the fundamental Christians on this site. This is, in part, why i suspect you of being such.

It's ADVERSARY

and SEPARATE


and on and on.....

You continually side-step my questions. You graze them at best, which tells me that you know that if you answered them head-on that you might expose yourself, and the bullshit alarms might be set off.

All that I am in my being and in my consciousness does not buy what you are positing. I am far from stupid or unaware. And I would place far greater "faith" in my consciousness than in yours at this point. And so I must ask, doe being whatever you are "an inter-dimensional being" for whatever that is worth, confer any elevated status over us in intelligence or awareness? How is it that you know what you know?

If you are suggesting that a "devil" exists then I must take my leave for a few moment to laugh that one off. And if I can glean the subtext to what you offer, I suspect that you grant Christianity and Jesus a great amount of efficacy, whereas, I grant it none. Love your neighbor? Love god? How droll. How simplistic. How unoriginal. You must do better.

How and why would that which created all that is have any need whatsoever for its creations to perform up to some level of expectation or else? That is the basis of all religious myth and superstition. You need to get a lot more specific. A lot.
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Hello ARKURA, thanks for your fulfilling reply. I have another question if you don't mind. What do you know about soulmates and the twin flame? What happens if we don't get a chance to meet our soulmates in this life, will we be able to connect with them on the other side? I also read about separation from our current relationships once we reach 4th density and so. Things sound so promising in the upper D's hope the rest of us get to reach those planes of existence. Also read after every 3 dimensions there is a gateway into the next. Appreciate anything you can tell us.

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Hello, can you tell us a bit about the Age of Aquarius and the evolution of consciousness. Since Earth/Terra is in the process of becoming 5D, what will happen to those who will not be here for that. Will some of us be returning to our places of origin in other D's/worlds beyond the stars? What about the 7 ray's and esoteric astrology that? About karma and where does that play into our progress. Does recantation end at a certain point and do we/are choose/chosen for out next destination?

Thank you.
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Lets break those down...

Aquarious is a water bearer and a time of pouring out of spirit in the last days

The earth terra is not becoming 5d, it is 5d, it exists there...as do you all, what makes you all "3d" is that you lack the freedom of mobility in higher dimensionality, not that you dont have a place in them. Your barrier of mobility stops at 3d, and as a fixed point you cant see know or grasp the higher realms. At least not with 3d physicality.

Man was in a place called paradise, man fell, some will return. 7 rays cant talk on. on Karma - if you do good, good comes back to you, but this is a closed loop system. Its working and never seeming to be able to get out of debt. When someone does evil to you, do them good...when they hate you love them back. But you must also ask forgiveness of god, hes the author of infinate graces. Without God in the equation, you are merely recycling so that nothing new is given to the system, and if evil is in the system with good, how will it ever be overcome. Its not just enough to love man only, you must love God first and love man as yourself. Now you have a circuit that works! others do you wrong you forgive their debt, you do wrong god forgives you, and the debt of the world god takes upon himself. See how that works? How god then redeems the world? without god in the equation the debts are still stuck in the world and try as you might you will never be free of them. As far as choice...god creates, you exist once here, you make choices. God knows them He knows the paths. He creates their destinations, but he gives you the choice and you choose it. He knows what you will choose yet you choose it. There are two ways...one leads to paradise, the other to a place to be avoided. Choose wisely.
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ok day and night, they share "the sun" as do all dipoles share "us".

Night does not care that day has the sun, and day does not care that night has "the lack of the sun" (opposite) together...once again I repeat, Together, they create a cycle called a day. that is my point. I say all opposite pairs share that goal too, to combine, together, to form a "wave" and evolve. Or as you advise, to stay on one "Part" (end, opposite) or Particle. and not evolve, merely continue the same old patterns. No, I am not God and dont even ask such things not look. You do though. in the form of a gate.

I see full cycles, you prefer 1/2 cycles (half side of your choosing) ok, fine, Time allows a thing called "evolution, which a result of life forms moving off balance, and allowing them time to see what is there, and learn, and decide better for himself later. with out exposure to opposites, BOTH sides, we have no control, are lost (need a guide...) it is the goal of the liars to keep us off balance with promise of balance that never arrives.

I will balance. I will also learn lessons while trying to balance, that is what we do.
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ok you say you will balance. and how will you keep -1 and +1 from coming together? how will you keep two diametrically opposed opposites inside you without favoring one over the other, thereby creating an imbalance?

Shrodingers cat....If your mind is the box, and the cat is inside, and I ask you, is the cat dead or alive...what will you say? that it is both?

thats impossible. it cant be both. if you try to maintain two seperate opposite ideas inside your mind you can never know any truth at all. You can only know truth by choosing one or the other. Only the mind of god can know both simultaneously.

If you say the cat cycles, so that it is alive, dead, alive, dead...how can this be...it is one or the other but then when it is dead it is dead. Not all things cycle, Some things progress on a linear path not a wave or circle, and where you have opposites on a line you have to make a choice..and even if that choice makes you more good or more evil, it balances with your dipole, but you can never be the balance point on all things because you would never be able to know anything...there would only be a series of opposites and you would zero your thinking out.

Shrodingers cat is either alive or not, to balance that is to lose the ability to know and make choices.
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How will I balance - FIRST comes lessons,(time has a purpose after all) fall over, then learn, understand, and eventually balance between two opposite CONCEPTS (like good and evil - be nice to me, im nice, attack me try to kill me, I will kill you - I balanced based on the load coming at me - just like when I walk and use BOTH left and right leans AND forward and backward leaning too ALL at the same tiem and ALL as CENTER to ME am I a God? No, I am the "one trying to balance" which ALWAYS places me as potential Dot, because that is where I view things from in a 100% PURE CONCEPT world, which is in fact what we have, minds filled with thoughts)

good and Evil DO both exist Simultaneously - yes they do - I myself am not "too good" and also "not too evil" in what I see as my "Balance" (between those potential forces) this is not the cat theory, this is adipole and BOTH forces or potentials are present at the same time, and the Cat DOES CYCLE as we ALL DO! it was "born" it WILL Die, it WILL complete... a full cycle

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It bothers me that you present yourself as some inerrant type being and yet you spell as horribly as all the fundamental Christians on this site. This is, in part, why i suspect you of being such.

It's ADVERSARY

and SEPARATE


and on and on.....

You continually side-step my questions. You graze them at best, which tells me that you know that if you answered them head-on that you might expose yourself, and the bullshit alarms might be set off.

All that I am in my being and in my consciousness does not buy what you are positing. I am far from stupid or unaware. And I would place far greater "faith" in my consciousness than in yours at this point. And so I must ask, doe being whatever you are "an inter-dimensional being" for whatever that is worth, confer any elevated status over us in intelligence or awareness? How is it that you know what you know?

If you are suggesting that a "devil" exists then I must take my leave for a few moment to laugh that one off. And if I can glean the subtext to what you offer, I suspect that you grant Christianity and Jesus a great amount of efficacy, whereas, I grant it none. Love your neighbor? Love god? How droll. How simplistic. How unoriginal. You must do better.

How and why would that which created all that is have any need whatsoever for its creations to perform up to some level of expectation or else? That is the basis of all religious myth and superstition. You need to get a lot more specific. A lot.
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At no point did I ever claim to be inerrant. As a matter of fact, I on several posts explained I am created like you and very capable of error and yes I am a bad speller. So what? You have a couple too that I see..."doe being whatever you are"??? does your spelling errors make your arguments more or less valid? Big deal. Move on.

Where did I sidestep your questions? Or do you just not like that I didn't answer them the way you wanted? I'm not going to say 2+2=5 just because your error only allows you to see the world that way, sorry. And I'm not a trained monkey that has to perform for you either, you ask, I gave my answer. Your under no obligation to accept or reject it. If you want clarifications, ask specifics, but if you want me to say 2+2=5 thats never going to happen. If you state your conscioussness is your truth meter, then you must presuppose you are absolutely flawless and perfect, so that upon self reflectiom you become the standard of all truth. I'm sorry to say this but you are not. Accept or reject that as you wish. I claim no elevated status, only a different position, not greater or lesser. How do I know things? How do you know them.?..I was created sentient. Therefore I have the ability to know. Don't you?

As far as you finding certain moral truths as too trite and unorginal for your taste...at what point did the measure of truth become your need for entertainment? Does e=mc2 become any less true or valid because its "old news" and "everyones heard that" Do you really believe that reality is to be re-manufactured and repackaged just so you can be entertained and have your ears tickled? People ask me questions, I answer. If you dont find the answers entertaining enough for your taste, no one is obligating you to read them. I have zero interest in entertaining you, only in answering the question as to the best of my ability. If I say 2+2=4 and you find that too pedantic...well, deal with it. I'm not going to say its 5 just to be original!

The advisary does exist (i'm not going to correct my spelling, this is a simple forum, not a graduate thesis, I simply dont care enough to bother)

The creator does place laws and expectations on its creation. It does so both physically and morally. You can see it in the physical, so why then are you so blind to it in the spiritual? If you try to jump off a cliff and fly, won't the law of gravity correct you in a few moments? And if you try to break moral laws, won't there be consequences as well? Did you ever consider that the reason it is the basis of all religion is because the rest of the world throughout history figured out that moral laws exist? Or is the rest of the world wrong and you correct in this regard? Your error is that you think you are somehow superior to all this...but this is only in your own mind.

As far as getting a lot more specific on the answers, i suggest you get more specific on the questions....again, i'm not here to enterttain you or be your monkey, If I want to discuss topic A, and you want specifics on topic B, then you'll have to ask more specific and less general questions, if you need more clarification, ask for it with specificity, not generality. I'm not going to do all the work for you. Also, I'm not going to shift my focus just to please your pride. Pride is your greatest error, why would I feed that?
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ok day and night, they share "the sun" as do all dipoles share "us".

Night does not care that day has the sun, and day does not care that night has "the lack of the sun" (opposite) together...once again I repeat, Together, they create a cycle called a day. that is my point. I say all opposite pairs share that goal too, to combine, together, to form a "wave" and evolve. Or as you advise, to stay on one "Part" (end, opposite) or Particle. and not evolve, merely continue the same old patterns. No, I am not God and dont even ask such things not look. You do though. in the form of a gate.

I see full cycles, you prefer 1/2 cycles (half side of your choosing) ok, fine, Time allows a thing called "evolution, which a result of life forms moving off balance, and allowing them time to see what is there, and learn, and decide better for himself later. with out exposure to opposites, BOTH sides, we have no control, are lost (need a guide...) it is the goal of the liars to keep us off balance with promise of balance that never arrives.

I will balance. I will also learn lessons while trying to balance, that is what we do.
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ok you say you will balance. and how will you keep -1 and +1 from coming together? how will you keep two diametrically opposed opposites inside you without favoring one over the other, thereby creating an imbalance?

Shrodingers cat....If your mind is the box, and the cat is inside, and I ask you, is the cat dead or alive...what will you say? that it is both?

thats impossible. it cant be both. if you try to maintain two seperate opposite ideas inside your mind you can never know any truth at all. You can only know truth by choosing one or the other. Only the mind of god can know both simultaneously.

If you say the cat cycles, so that it is alive, dead, alive, dead...how can this be...it is one or the other but then when it is dead it is dead. Not all things cycle, Some things progress on a linear path not a wave or circle, and where you have opposites on a line you have to make a choice..and even if that choice makes you more good or more evil, it balances with your dipole, but you can never be the balance point on all things because you would never be able to know anything...there would only be a series of opposites and you would zero your thinking out.

Shrodingers cat is either alive or not, to balance that is to lose the ability to know and make choices.
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How will I balance - FIRST comes lessons,(time has a purpose after all) fall over, then learn, understand, and eventually balance between two opposite CONCEPTS (like good and evil - be nice to me, im nice, attack me try to kill me, I will kill you - I balanced based on the load coming at me - just like when I walk and use BOTH left and right leans AND forward and backward leaning too ALL at the same tiem and ALL as CENTER to ME am I a God? No, I am the "one trying to balance" which ALWAYS places me as potential Dot, because that is where I view things from in a 100% PURE CONCEPT world, which is in fact what we have, minds filled with thoughts)

good and Evil DO both exist Simultaneously - yes they do - I myself am not "too good" and also "not too evil" in what I see as my "Balance" (between those potential forces) this is not the cat theory, this is adipole and BOTH forces or potentials are present at the same time, and the Cat DOES CYCLE as we ALL DO! it was "born" it WILL Die, it WILL complete... a full cycle

and

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cabalalalala that... spell this....
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It completes a full turn, but it doesnt repeat from there...once the cat is dead, it is dead for ever...

The only thing your missing is that your one center but not THE center...your creator is THE center. Therefore in his eyes you fall on one side of the scale or the other. His scale divides all evil from all perfection. Therefore in the end we are all judged by him, not by ourselves. Evil will not find its way to the good side and vice versa in that day...and this judgement will be eternal. As I said, once the cat is dead, its dead forever...
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It bothers me that you present yourself as some inerrant type being and yet you spell as horribly as all the fundamental Christians on this site. This is, in part, why i suspect you of being such.

It's ADVERSARY

and SEPARATE


and on and on.....

You continually side-step my questions. You graze them at best, which tells me that you know that if you answered them head-on that you might expose yourself, and the bullshit alarms might be set off.

All that I am in my being and in my consciousness does not buy what you are positing. I am far from stupid or unaware. And I would place far greater "faith" in my consciousness than in yours at this point. And so I must ask, doe being whatever you are "an inter-dimensional being" for whatever that is worth, confer any elevated status over us in intelligence or awareness? How is it that you know what you know?

If you are suggesting that a "devil" exists then I must take my leave for a few moment to laugh that one off. And if I can glean the subtext to what you offer, I suspect that you grant Christianity and Jesus a great amount of efficacy, whereas, I grant it none. Love your neighbor? Love god? How droll. How simplistic. How unoriginal. You must do better.

How and why would that which created all that is have any need whatsoever for its creations to perform up to some level of expectation or else? That is the basis of all religious myth and superstition. You need to get a lot more specific. A lot.
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At no point did I ever claim to be inerrant. As a matter of fact, I on several posts explained I am created like you and very capable of error and yes I am a bad speller. So what? You have a couple too that I see..."doe being whatever you are"??? does your spelling errors make your arguments more or less valid? Big deal. Move on.

Where did I sidestep your questions? Or do you just not like that I didn't answer them the way you wanted? I'm not going to say 2+2=5 just because your error only allows you to see the world that way, sorry. And I'm not a trained monkey that has to perform for you either, you ask, I gave my answer. Your under no obligation to accept or reject it. If you want clarifications, ask specifics, but if you want me to say 2+2=5 thats never going to happen. If you state your conscioussness is your truth meter, then you must presuppose you are absolutely flawless and perfect, so that upon self reflectiom you become the standard of all truth. I'm sorry to say this but you are not. Accept or reject that as you wish. I claim no elevated status, only a different position, not greater or lesser. How do I know things? How do you know them.?..I was created sentient. Therefore I have the ability to know. Don't you?

As far as you finding certain moral truths as too trite and unorginal for your taste...at what point did the measure of truth become your need for entertainment? Does e=mc2 become any less true or valid because its "old news" and "everyones heard that" Do you really believe that reality is to be re-manufactured and repackaged just so you can be entertained and have your ears tickled? People ask me questions, I answer. If you dont find the answers entertaining enough for your taste, no one is obligating you to read them. I have zero interest in entertaining you, only in answering the question as to the best of my ability. If I say 2+2=4 and you find that too pedantic...well, deal with it. I'm not going to say its 5 just to be original!

The advisary does exist (i'm not going to correct my spelling, this is a simple forum, not a graduate thesis, I simply dont care enough to bother)

The creator does place laws and expectations on its creation. It does so both physically and morally. You can see it in the physical, so why then are you so blind to it in the spiritual? If you try to jump off a cliff and fly, won't the law of gravity correct you in a few moments? And if you try to break moral laws, won't there be consequences as well? Did you ever consider that the reason it is the basis of all religion is because the rest of the world throughout history figured out that moral laws exist? Or is the rest of the world wrong and you correct in this regard? Your error is that you think you are somehow superior to all this...but this is only in your own mind.

As far as getting a lot more specific on the answers, i suggest you get more specific on the questions....again, i'm not here to enterttain you or be your monkey, If I want to discuss topic A, and you want specifics on topic B, then you'll have to ask more specific and less general questions, if you need more clarification, ask for it with specificity, not generality. I'm not going to do all the work for you. Also, I'm not going to shift my focus just to please your pride. Pride is your greatest error, why would I feed that?
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My errors are in typing. Yours are in spelling. I have asked you things over and over and you disregard or go off on tangents to avoid them. Why not step out from behind your curtain of esoteric hyperbole and admit who and what you are? Were you in fact, raised Christian? Do you or do you not ascribe to a localized "god" who "lives" somewhere and who has an arch nemesis who is the personification of what you would call "evil"? Are we judged after we leave this plane? By whom and how? What are the possible ramifications? Do you ascribe to heaven and hell motifs?

Your defense of re4ligion is laughable. Religion is the bastion of darkness and un-consciousness. Moral truth is an oxymoron. There are no rules from on high. There are universal principles of form and function whereby all might coexist in peace and balance. There is no right or wrong to it, or some unremitting task-master in the sky to appease. If we violate these principles, we create imbalance and suffer the effects - over and over and over again until we finally learn/decide to function within the symbiotic fabric of life which encompasses all that is, that we might becomes exponents of balance and harmony. This religious passion play bullshit is bullshit. Sorry to say. There are no absolutes in the relative. Good an devil as well as "god" are all constructs. They exist in the minds of men. They are useful as tools to a point - until - in and through individuated consciousness, you transcend all duality and realize that all is one, indivisible and one in the same thing - consciousness.



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Your defense of religion is laughable.
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It bothers me that you present yourself as some inerrant type being and yet you spell as horribly as all the fundamental Christians on this site. This is, in part, why i suspect you of being such.

It's ADVERSARY

and SEPARATE


and on and on.....

You continually side-step my questions. You graze them at best, which tells me that you know that if you answered them head-on that you might expose yourself, and the bullshit alarms might be set off.

All that I am in my being and in my consciousness does not buy what you are positing. I am far from stupid or unaware. And I would place far greater "faith" in my consciousness than in yours at this point. And so I must ask, doe being whatever you are "an inter-dimensional being" for whatever that is worth, confer any elevated status over us in intelligence or awareness? How is it that you know what you know?

If you are suggesting that a "devil" exists then I must take my leave for a few moment to laugh that one off. And if I can glean the subtext to what you offer, I suspect that you grant Christianity and Jesus a great amount of efficacy, whereas, I grant it none. Love your neighbor? Love god? How droll. How simplistic. How unoriginal. You must do better.

How and why would that which created all that is have any need whatsoever for its creations to perform up to some level of expectation or else? That is the basis of all religious myth and superstition. You need to get a lot more specific. A lot.
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At no point did I ever claim to be inerrant. As a matter of fact, I on several posts explained I am created like you and very capable of error and yes I am a bad speller. So what? You have a couple too that I see..."doe being whatever you are"??? does your spelling errors make your arguments more or less valid? Big deal. Move on.

Where did I sidestep your questions? Or do you just not like that I didn't answer them the way you wanted? I'm not going to say 2+2=5 just because your error only allows you to see the world that way, sorry. And I'm not a trained monkey that has to perform for you either, you ask, I gave my answer. Your under no obligation to accept or reject it. If you want clarifications, ask specifics, but if you want me to say 2+2=5 thats never going to happen. If you state your conscioussness is your truth meter, then you must presuppose you are absolutely flawless and perfect, so that upon self reflectiom you become the standard of all truth. I'm sorry to say this but you are not. Accept or reject that as you wish. I claim no elevated status, only a different position, not greater or lesser. How do I know things? How do you know them.?..I was created sentient. Therefore I have the ability to know. Don't you?

As far as you finding certain moral truths as too trite and unorginal for your taste...at what point did the measure of truth become your need for entertainment? Does e=mc2 become any less true or valid because its "old news" and "everyones heard that" Do you really believe that reality is to be re-manufactured and repackaged just so you can be entertained and have your ears tickled? People ask me questions, I answer. If you dont find the answers entertaining enough for your taste, no one is obligating you to read them. I have zero interest in entertaining you, only in answering the question as to the best of my ability. If I say 2+2=4 and you find that too pedantic...well, deal with it. I'm not going to say its 5 just to be original!

The advisary does exist (i'm not going to correct my spelling, this is a simple forum, not a graduate thesis, I simply dont care enough to bother)

The creator does place laws and expectations on its creation. It does so both physically and morally. You can see it in the physical, so why then are you so blind to it in the spiritual? If you try to jump off a cliff and fly, won't the law of gravity correct you in a few moments? And if you try to break moral laws, won't there be consequences as well? Did you ever consider that the reason it is the basis of all religion is because the rest of the world throughout history figured out that moral laws exist? Or is the rest of the world wrong and you correct in this regard? Your error is that you think you are somehow superior to all this...but this is only in your own mind.

As far as getting a lot more specific on the answers, i suggest you get more specific on the questions....again, i'm not here to enterttain you or be your monkey, If I want to discuss topic A, and you want specifics on topic B, then you'll have to ask more specific and less general questions, if you need more clarification, ask for it with specificity, not generality. I'm not going to do all the work for you. Also, I'm not going to shift my focus just to please your pride. Pride is your greatest error, why would I feed that?
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My errors are in typing. Yours are in spelling. I have asked you things over and over and you disregard or go off on tangents to avoid them. Why not step out from behind your curtain of esoteric hyperbole and admit who and what you are? Were you in fact, raised Christian? Do you or do you not ascribe to a localized "god" who "lives" somewhere and who has an arch nemesis who is the personification of what you would call "evil"? Are we judged after we leave this plane? By whom and how? What are the possible ramifications? Do you ascribe to heaven and hell motifs?

Your defense of re4ligion is laughable. Religion is the bastion of darkness and un-consciousness. Moral truth is an oxymoron. There are no rules from on high. There are universal principles of form and function whereby all might coexist in peace and balance. There is no right or wrong to it, or some unremitting task-master in the sky to appease. If we violate these principles, we create imbalance and suffer the effects - over and over and over again until we finally learn/decide to function within the symbiotic fabric of life which encompasses all that is, that we might becomes exponents of balance and harmony. This religious passion play bullshit is bullshit. Sorry to say. There are no absolutes in the relative. Good an devil as well as "god" are all constructs. They exist in the minds of men. They are useful as tools to a point - until - in and through individuated consciousness, you transcend all duality and realize that all is one, indivisible and one in the same thing - consciousness.




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1. Spelling---> Don't care.
2. not answsering questions--->which ones?
3. My faith and beliefs---->i do believe in God and yes you are judged after you leave this life. I wouldnt call the advisary God's arch enemy though, it presupposes that they are different sides of the scale, God is not a side, he is the fulcrum. you are judged by God and yes the heaven and hell motiffs are a fairly decent 3d explaination as far as can be explained in this realm. you are judged by your faith and actions, the ramifications i just stated.
4. Defense of religion--->you wanna laugh at it? laugh then. no skin off my back. I'm not your judge. Your the one who has to give the account for your actions before god. I did my part which was to tell you. How you respond is your own business.
5. the rest of what you said---->its wrong. Specifically as far as the whole "we are all one" thing...your turning the -1 and +1 back into the zero. is the origin/source one? yes. But once its seperated it is made into seperate things. Those seperate things then have attributes, characters and definitions that make them distinct and laws that govern their existance. If you choose to unrecognize these then you are negating the seperation...you are anhilating the -1 and +1 and making it zero again. Is that your goal? why would you want to "uncreate" yourself? As it were, this is impossible anyway, for god maintains the seperation and it is eternal. Therefore, the laws that make +1 positive and -1 negative are likewise eternal. And thus likewise, you as a created thing are also subject to eternal laws. no matter how much you refuse through willfull ignorance to see this, you must understand that you are a created thing, you are not god, you are one seperation of things resulting from gods creative power. Therefore you are not One with the universe, that is to say, you are not THE great whole, you are merely a PART of the universe, a PART of the great whole, and as a part you are governered by rules and laws that define you distinct from the other parts. these rules exist eternally as long as the parts stand seperate. And they will stand seperate forever, therfore your judgement stands forever. Your concept that you are not governed by laws of the creator is not lack of knowledge but a willfull refusal to see. Look i have even told you! If you choose not to listen, well, good luck explaining that to god on the last day...
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I can close this thread with 1 question...
that question is...
why don't you wanna talk about the coming shift?
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I can close this thread with 1 question...
that question is...
why don't you wanna talk about the coming shift?
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Give me your description/understanding and Ill give you my opinion where I can.
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It bothers me that you present yourself as some inerrant type being and yet you spell as horribly as all the fundamental Christians on this site. This is, in part, why i suspect you of being such.

It's ADVERSARY

and SEPARATE


and on and on.....

You continually side-step my questions. You graze them at best, which tells me that you know that if you answered them head-on that you might expose yourself, and the bullshit alarms might be set off.

All that I am in my being and in my consciousness does not buy what you are positing. I am far from stupid or unaware. And I would place far greater "faith" in my consciousness than in yours at this point. And so I must ask, doe being whatever you are "an inter-dimensional being" for whatever that is worth, confer any elevated status over us in intelligence or awareness? How is it that you know what you know?

If you are suggesting that a "devil" exists then I must take my leave for a few moment to laugh that one off. And if I can glean the subtext to what you offer, I suspect that you grant Christianity and Jesus a great amount of efficacy, whereas, I grant it none. Love your neighbor? Love god? How droll. How simplistic. How unoriginal. You must do better.

How and why would that which created all that is have any need whatsoever for its creations to perform up to some level of expectation or else? That is the basis of all religious myth and superstition. You need to get a lot more specific. A lot.
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At no point did I ever claim to be inerrant. As a matter of fact, I on several posts explained I am created like you and very capable of error and yes I am a bad speller. So what? You have a couple too that I see..."doe being whatever you are"??? does your spelling errors make your arguments more or less valid? Big deal. Move on.

Where did I sidestep your questions? Or do you just not like that I didn't answer them the way you wanted? I'm not going to say 2+2=5 just because your error only allows you to see the world that way, sorry. And I'm not a trained monkey that has to perform for you either, you ask, I gave my answer. Your under no obligation to accept or reject it. If you want clarifications, ask specifics, but if you want me to say 2+2=5 thats never going to happen. If you state your conscioussness is your truth meter, then you must presuppose you are absolutely flawless and perfect, so that upon self reflectiom you become the standard of all truth. I'm sorry to say this but you are not. Accept or reject that as you wish. I claim no elevated status, only a different position, not greater or lesser. How do I know things? How do you know them.?..I was created sentient. Therefore I have the ability to know. Don't you?

As far as you finding certain moral truths as too trite and unorginal for your taste...at what point did the measure of truth become your need for entertainment? Does e=mc2 become any less true or valid because its "old news" and "everyones heard that" Do you really believe that reality is to be re-manufactured and repackaged just so you can be entertained and have your ears tickled? People ask me questions, I answer. If you dont find the answers entertaining enough for your taste, no one is obligating you to read them. I have zero interest in entertaining you, only in answering the question as to the best of my ability. If I say 2+2=4 and you find that too pedantic...well, deal with it. I'm not going to say its 5 just to be original!

The advisary does exist (i'm not going to correct my spelling, this is a simple forum, not a graduate thesis, I simply dont care enough to bother)

The creator does place laws and expectations on its creation. It does so both physically and morally. You can see it in the physical, so why then are you so blind to it in the spiritual? If you try to jump off a cliff and fly, won't the law of gravity correct you in a few moments? And if you try to break moral laws, won't there be consequences as well? Did you ever consider that the reason it is the basis of all religion is because the rest of the world throughout history figured out that moral laws exist? Or is the rest of the world wrong and you correct in this regard? Your error is that you think you are somehow superior to all this...but this is only in your own mind.

As far as getting a lot more specific on the answers, i suggest you get more specific on the questions....again, i'm not here to enterttain you or be your monkey, If I want to discuss topic A, and you want specifics on topic B, then you'll have to ask more specific and less general questions, if you need more clarification, ask for it with specificity, not generality. I'm not going to do all the work for you. Also, I'm not going to shift my focus just to please your pride. Pride is your greatest error, why would I feed that?
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My errors are in typing. Yours are in spelling. I have asked you things over and over and you disregard or go off on tangents to avoid them. Why not step out from behind your curtain of esoteric hyperbole and admit who and what you are? Were you in fact, raised Christian? Do you or do you not ascribe to a localized "god" who "lives" somewhere and who has an arch nemesis who is the personification of what you would call "evil"? Are we judged after we leave this plane? By whom and how? What are the possible ramifications? Do you ascribe to heaven and hell motifs?

Your defense of re4ligion is laughable. Religion is the bastion of darkness and un-consciousness. Moral truth is an oxymoron. There are no rules from on high. There are universal principles of form and function whereby all might coexist in peace and balance. There is no right or wrong to it, or some unremitting task-master in the sky to appease. If we violate these principles, we create imbalance and suffer the effects - over and over and over again until we finally learn/decide to function within the symbiotic fabric of life which encompasses all that is, that we might becomes exponents of balance and harmony. This religious passion play bullshit is bullshit. Sorry to say. There are no absolutes in the relative. Good an devil as well as "god" are all constructs. They exist in the minds of men. They are useful as tools to a point - until - in and through individuated consciousness, you transcend all duality and realize that all is one, indivisible and one in the same thing - consciousness.




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1. Spelling---> Don't care.
2. not answsering questions--->which ones?
3. My faith and beliefs---->i do believe in God and yes you are judged after you leave this life. I wouldnt call the advisary God's arch enemy though, it presupposes that they are different sides of the scale, God is not a side, he is the fulcrum. you are judged by God and yes the heaven and hell motiffs are a fairly decent 3d explaination as far as can be explained in this realm. you are judged by your faith and actions, the ramifications i just stated.
4. Defense of religion--->you wanna laugh at it? laugh then. no skin off my back. I'm not your judge. Your the one who has to give the account for your actions before god. I did my part which was to tell you. How you respond is your own business.
5. the rest of what you said---->its wrong. Specifically as far as the whole "we are all one" thing...your turning the -1 and +1 back into the zero. is the origin/source one? yes. But once its seperated it is made into seperate things. Those seperate things then have attributes, characters and definitions that make them distinct and laws that govern their existance. If you choose to unrecognize these then you are negating the seperation...you are anhilating the -1 and +1 and making it zero again. Is that your goal? why would you want to "uncreate" yourself? As it were, this is impossible anyway, for god maintains the seperation and it is eternal. Therefore, the laws that make +1 positive and -1 negative are likewise eternal. And thus likewise, you as a created thing are also subject to eternal laws. no matter how much you refuse through willfull ignorance to see this, you must understand that you are a created thing, you are not god, you are one seperation of things resulting from gods creative power. Therefore you are not One with the universe, that is to say, you are not THE great whole, you are merely a PART of the universe, a PART of the great whole, and as a part you are governered by rules and laws that define you distinct from the other parts. these rules exist eternally as long as the parts stand seperate. And they will stand seperate forever, therfore your judgement stands forever. Your concept that you are not governed by laws of the creator is not lack of knowledge but a willfull refusal to see. Look i have even told you! If you choose not to listen, well, good luck explaining that to god on the last day...
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It's SEPARATE. And you still refuse to admit you are Christian or not. You are at a level of consciousness/awareness/unfoldment. All that is, can claim the same. From your place of being/consciousness you speak. It is your perspective from your place of being/consciousness. At each level there are layers of "truth" that exist at that layer or level, but which may not exist on others as it is all subjective. It is the knower vs the known dichotomy that exists in fragmented consciousness/awareness. In this fragmentation, that which is outside is seen as separate. This is the basis of western religion. That there is a god that exists apart and separate - not immanent or transcendent - and that we are separate from this god due to our own misbegotten/fallen state - which is an ex post facto observation/summary resulting from the fragmentation that sees things as separate to begin with and indeed, qualitatively so in the eyes of "creator". Enter good vs bad, right vs wrong, saved vs lost. And then the game begins to try to win back the favor the the most high and to placate and appease "him" lest we are banished from the kingdom forever. A fairy tale if ever there was one. This is not a matter of debate nor who is smarter - or right or wrong. It is a matter of consciousness - how expanded, refined and inclusive it may be. From my place of consciousness, your depiction of a god figure with rules and penalties is most absurd.
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OP is a christian.
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What if I was from Africa and had no way to communicate with the outside world and I have never heard of God. Nobody told me about religion and faith all i know is survival whether it be good or evil by gods judgement, i haveno clue the difference, I didnt know there was a choice how does god judge that. Is everyones scale different. Also what about mentally ill people. Insane, psychotic people don't choose that but it prevent them from knowing good from evil. Hitler believed he was doing good but most believed otherwise. Do you know what Gods judgement on him was.
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is osamas death real? or all a stunt by the world order?
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Op....

I beleive what you say is not bullshit...I have always possessed inherent knowledge As a human yet have been struck with great suffering... I seem conflicted between the forces of light and darkness.

Let ,e show you some of what I believe is inherent knowlefr:

Chaos leads to greater order....god is not s seperste entity that creates universes because that would necessitate his creation, if he is needed to create the universe. Instead, There is no "default" no true nothing. And so even nothing is something. If the universe were to not define itself at all, it would, just because it must take some position. This leads to rules...

The rules then encounter unforeseen consequences that lead to higher hierarchies of order, complexity...such s when unstable carbon atoms combine to form molecules,,,

The instability leads to greater complexity, the apex being intelligence....

This is but one of manny insights....but I tire of sharing them....no one has ever understood on this earth or seemed to know such concepts..litnwas always about Jesus or god, or buddhism or secular ideologies that never really ecplined the world for me....i have explained it for myself.....yet it wad strange....no one seemed to understand....was i really the only human being to understanf these things? I am not a genius, how can that be? That is impossible. Yet it was. I felt i had the answer yo things that even stephen hawking seemed to miss.

Recently, My brain seemed to go through a chemical accident and I cannot think straight. I have gone through great suffering for 4 year.....I now, having bee exposed to new age thought.cthink it Kay have something to do with my purpose . You are the only thing that i have encountered that understands deeply like I once did...(nowadays...i seem to be dying)

Please tell me why I have suffered so...why you bastards.

More evidence: inertial device....a sphere within a hollow sphere of magnets....make it go in a spherical motion path...the inner one....then have a self justiyging spherical motion through inertial swings....have it re enforce itself through resonance...you have a "wave" in 3 dimensions that re enforces itself into a sort of 3 dimensional standing wave....it continues Inc this state and "extract " some energy from it....just enough not to collapse it....yet enough for meaningful energy extraction ...

I have so many questions to ask you...i am so glad I have found you.
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Let me explain it better...

The universe has no default position. If you assume god must create the universe because it is specific and complex, then you must assume,e god created the universe because he is more complex (just a starting point for reasoning. It leads to a god)

So the universe by virtue of complexity, cannot be explained bt an outside. Creation..
But since there is no default position, because nothing is something, it is defined, not water, not a chair.....it is nothing...and hence something...

There really is nothing that wouldn't require creation under that line of thinking..

Hence, having mo default position, the universe "must" just by virtue of "being"

Take "shape"

Universes that make sense come into existence.

Those that do not, don't.

Systems that "coalesce into consistent rules" evolve under the rule that the more trials a system undergoes, the highly unlikely becomes highly likely..

Instability, by virtue of order itself, leads to unforeseen interactions thatcnecessite higher complexity to satisfy the instability ...

More complex patterns which approach pi ..

The apex of this, appears to be conciousness....intelligence...
The more "complete" universe...the more balanced universe...all of this existence leading up to the consciousness.. To us. Because it is the most "stable" thing that guards "against" instability..the most complex pattern that contains simpler patterns within it.

Conciousness seems to me like millions of computers doing specific Functions and mirroring each other so that each ends up like those mirror images within a mirror...this is conviousness...we simply mirror more than lower animals...

Neanderthals, those first cavern drawings, were really observing their own thoughts and becoming self aware of their own thoughts....they. Upi. That moment. Became self aesre...and ceased to be primate and beca,e human...

Humans I believe, will one day cease to be human as well...as we make the jump to greater consciousness. Perhaps throughvthe singularity...as we achieve....god..

For mans greatest discovery will be its last, for man will cease to be mañ and evolve

For logic is the greatest tyrant, and truth the greatest communist.

Now that Ive shared with you my seed,..

Could you help me?

I am suffering. Btw, are there others like me. And could I possibly meet you.

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