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Yep, good ole obama tard is trying to fuck us out of our guns. The funny thing is, he hasn't even seen a war until he tries to take our guns from us. Then, this whole country will truly be fucked because I sure as hell will not turn over my guns, at least not until I'm fuckin' dead and out of ammo. Worthless cock sucker.

Best part of him ran down the crack of his momma's ass and wound up as a brown stain on the bed sheets.
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contesting the vote"
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I hope not. I like Obama but I am not ok with anyone trying to take guns away. I do not feel comfortable when people start talking about taking away things we use to protect ourselves.

As much as I want to stay a law abiding citizen, I will have to break the laws that will take away guns.
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Yep, good ole obama tard is trying to fuck us out of our guns. The funny thing is, he hasn't even seen a war until he tries to take our guns from us. Then, this whole country will truly be fucked because I sure as hell will not turn over my guns, at least not until I'm fuckin' dead and out of ammo. Worthless cock sucker.

Best part of him ran down the crack of his momma's ass and wound up as a brown stain on the bed sheets.
 Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR



We didn't go to war with the last "assault weapons ban", what makes you think anybody is going to do something now?
COUNTRY FIRST

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.
5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
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I'm tired of OP's attitude.

Sorry bud but defending your property to the neighbor's line don't cut it.

What ya doin bout that radiation falling from the sky?

Awwww shit, guess that shotgun don't do ya a lick of good protecting your kids after all...
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Yeah, he wants only his jack-booted black brethren to have guns.

It's payback.

You time be comin' to an end, YT
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I'm tired of OP's attitude.

Sorry bud but defending your property to the neighbor's line don't cut it.

What ya doin bout that radiation falling from the sky?

Awwww shit, guess that shotgun don't do ya a lick of good protecting your kids after all...
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Wow, what a dumb ass statement...............
COUNTRY FIRST

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.
5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
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I'm tired of OP's attitude.

Sorry bud but defending your property to the neighbor's line don't cut it.

What ya doin bout that radiation falling from the sky?

Awwww shit, guess that shotgun don't do ya a lick of good protecting your kids after all...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1362910


Wow, what a dumb ass statement...............
 Quoting: Zombie Killer


Care to elaborate?

In the event that my position isn't clear, 100% pro-2nd amendment and 0% on the effectiveness of guns as a comprehensive self-defense strategy.
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Yep, good ole obama tard is trying to fuck us out of our guns. The funny thing is, he hasn't even seen a war until he tries to take our guns from us. Then, this whole country will truly be fucked because I sure as hell will not turn over my guns, at least not until I'm fuckin' dead and out of ammo. Worthless cock sucker.

Best part of him ran down the crack of his momma's ass and wound up as a brown stain on the bed sheets.
 Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR



We didn't go to war with the last "assault weapons ban", what makes you think anybody is going to do something now?
 Quoting: Zombie Killer


Because the last assault weapon ban was not even enforced. It is still in effect in California, and they still sell SKS's with grenade launcher sights right down the street at Big 5.

The only thing the "assault weapon" ban did was make a bunch of clueless sheep much like yourself feel good, and raised the prices of high-cap mags and rifles. The value of my collection went down considerably when the ban ended...

Obamy is different, because the National Socialist is making his own personal "SS", staffed with every reject that the military and regular police would not accept. A bunch of fat, pedophiles, fags, and junkies, issued with the latest in size XXX body armor and fully automatic, german made sub-machine guns.

All that weight, plus the extra, extra, extra large body armor, which I may add does not slow down a .30 '06 150 grain boat-tail bullet in the least bit, makes for fun, slow, waddling targets that can't even hide behind shit...

For even more fun, a full auto .22 with snake shot directed right into the eyes might discourage other rejects from hiring on.

I'm actually looking forward to any of these fuckers coming into my neighborhood...
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I'm tired of OP's attitude.

Sorry bud but defending your property to the neighbor's line don't cut it.

What ya doin bout that radiation falling from the sky?

Awwww shit, guess that shotgun don't do ya a lick of good protecting your kids after all...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1362910


Wow, what a dumb ass statement...............
 Quoting: Zombie Killer


Care to elaborate?

In the event that my position isn't clear, 100% pro-2nd amendment and 0% on the effectiveness of guns as a comprehensive self-defense strategy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1362910


My geiger counter still reads normal. A tad below, today actually.

So you can spout your ridicules chicken little horse shit until you are blue in the face, and saying shit does not make it so.

This leads me to believe that:

A: You are an idiot.

and B: My gun has saved my life twice, so it does work for self defense, and you are what is known in the gun culture as a "Victim" who just does not know that yet...
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I'm tired of OP's attitude.

Sorry bud but defending your property to the neighbor's line don't cut it.

What ya doin bout that radiation falling from the sky?

Awwww shit, guess that shotgun don't do ya a lick of good protecting your kids after all...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1362910


Wow, what a dumb ass statement...............
 Quoting: Zombie Killer


Care to elaborate?

In the event that my position isn't clear, 100% pro-2nd amendment and 0% on the effectiveness of guns as a comprehensive self-defense strategy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1362910


0% on the effectiveness of guns as a comprehensive self-defense strategy,against what?


The minuscule amount of radiation that "fell from the sky" wasn't enough to make a flea flinch.
"0% percent effectiveness" against what then?
Guns aren't going to protect one from radiation or chemical attacks, but I'm sure you already new that because you can't be that dumb. Guns are nothing more than a tool, it has it's purpose.
So what are you talking about?
COUNTRY FIRST

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.
5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
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Yep, good ole obama tard is trying to fuck us out of our guns. The funny thing is, he hasn't even seen a war until he tries to take our guns from us. Then, this whole country will truly be fucked because I sure as hell will not turn over my guns, at least not until I'm fuckin' dead and out of ammo. Worthless cock sucker.

Best part of him ran down the crack of his momma's ass and wound up as a brown stain on the bed sheets.
 Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR



We didn't go to war with the last "assault weapons ban", what makes you think anybody is going to do something now?
 Quoting: Zombie Killer


Because the last assault weapon ban was not even enforced. It is still in effect in California, and they still sell SKS's with grenade launcher sights right down the street at Big 5.

The only thing the "assault weapon" ban did was make a bunch of clueless sheep much like yourself feel good, and raised the prices of high-cap mags and rifles. The value of my collection went down considerably when the ban ended...

Obamy is different, because the National Socialist is making his own personal "SS", staffed with every reject that the military and regular police would not accept. A bunch of fat, pedophiles, fags, and junkies, issued with the latest in size XXX body armor and fully automatic, german made sub-machine guns.

All that weight, plus the extra, extra, extra large body armor, which I may add does not slow down a .30 '06 150 grain boat-tail bullet in the least bit, makes for fun, slow, waddling targets that can't even hide behind shit...

For even more fun, a full auto .22 with snake shot directed right into the eyes might discourage other rejects from hiring on.

I'm actually looking forward to any of these fuckers coming into my neighborhood...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 917784



Really? I'm a "clueless sheep"
I know about how prices skyrocketed soon after the ban took affect, and I know how the prices dropped after. The "assault weapons ban" that clinton signed was enforced.
Manufacturers had to change their firearms to comply with the new law. The AR-15 in particular.
I think the clueless one here is you.
You bunch of shitheads talk the talk, but your always full of shit. You talk big about "if they come to my house" bullshit, but if they ever do you'll cower down like a good servant.
I'm pro gun meathead, but not much is going to be done in the near future while the GOP has control of the house.
And if your buying into the bullshit of a treaty being signed with nato to take our guns away, then live in fear servant..............it ain't gonna happen.
COUNTRY FIRST

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.
5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
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OP, you will bend over and take it in the shorts just like all good, fluoride sucking sheep.....







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Yep, good ole obama tard is trying to fuck us out of our guns. The funny thing is, he hasn't even seen a war until he tries to take our guns from us. Then, this whole country will truly be fucked because I sure as hell will not turn over my guns, at least not until I'm fuckin' dead and out of ammo. Worthless cock sucker.

Best part of him ran down the crack of his momma's ass and wound up as a brown stain on the bed sheets.
 Quoting: 0311INFANTRYSIR



We didn't go to war with the last "assault weapons ban", what makes you think anybody is going to do something now?
 Quoting: Zombie Killer


Because the last assault weapon ban was not even enforced. It is still in effect in California, and they still sell SKS's with grenade launcher sights right down the street at Big 5.

The only thing the "assault weapon" ban did was make a bunch of clueless sheep much like yourself feel good, and raised the prices of high-cap mags and rifles. The value of my collection went down considerably when the ban ended...

Obamy is different, because the National Socialist is making his own personal "SS", staffed with every reject that the military and regular police would not accept. A bunch of fat, pedophiles, fags, and junkies, issued with the latest in size XXX body armor and fully automatic, german made sub-machine guns.

All that weight, plus the extra, extra, extra large body armor, which I may add does not slow down a .30 '06 150 grain boat-tail bullet in the least bit, makes for fun, slow, waddling targets that can't even hide behind shit...

For even more fun, a full auto .22 with snake shot directed right into the eyes might discourage other rejects from hiring on.

I'm actually looking forward to any of these fuckers coming into my neighborhood...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 917784



Really? I'm a "clueless sheep"
I know about how prices skyrocketed soon after the ban took affect, and I know how the prices dropped after. The "assault weapons ban" that clinton signed was enforced.
Manufacturers had to change their firearms to comply with the new law. The AR-15 in particular.
I think the clueless one here is you.
You bunch of shitheads talk the talk, but your always full of shit. You talk big about "if they come to my house" bullshit, but if they ever do you'll cower down like a good servant.
I'm pro gun meathead, but not much is going to be done in the near future while the GOP has control of the house.
And if your buying into the bullshit of a treaty being signed with nato to take our guns away, then live in fear servant..............it ain't gonna happen.
 Quoting: Zombie Killer


Relax there, Buddy. You and I are suppossed to be on the same side.

I consider anyone who fears the government and their stupid laws and bans and shit to be a clueless sheep.

I'm here to erase that fear from your minds.

If I come off like an asshole, it's because I've turned into one in my old age.

But you can relax, because I'm actually hilarious and easy to get along with.

Or at least the people I'm training both to shoot and set up bushwhacks tell me anyway....
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Of course his legion of salad tossers will defend this idiot as he is loading them into gas chambers.

The only thing that followers gun confiscations is genocide. 100% of the time.
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I'm tired of OP's attitude.

Sorry bud but defending your property to the neighbor's line don't cut it.

What ya doin bout that radiation falling from the sky?

Awwww shit, guess that shotgun don't do ya a lick of good protecting your kids after all...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1362910


Wow, what a dumb ass statement...............
 Quoting: Zombie Killer


Care to elaborate?

In the event that my position isn't clear, 100% pro-2nd amendment and 0% on the effectiveness of guns as a comprehensive self-defense strategy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1362910


Care to elaborate?
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Relax there, Buddy. You and I are suppossed to be on the same side.

I consider anyone who fears the government and their stupid laws and bans and shit to be a clueless sheep.

I'm here to erase that fear from your minds.

If I come off like an asshole, it's because I've turned into one in my old age.

But you can relax, because I'm actually hilarious and easy to get along with.

Or at least the people I'm training both to shoot and set up bushwhacks tell me anyway....
 Quoting: Whiskey Brother 917784


No problem......
Although obama and his administration seems to be trying their hardest to destroy this nation, we are still the greatest nation in the world and for one very good reason, our Constitution and our Bill of Rights.
They have been whittling away at it for generations, but that has to stop before we have no rights...Like the saying goes, "freedom is never free"....It will always be a fight to keep what's left of our freedom. I'm with ya, and my apologies for coming on a little strong.
COUNTRY FIRST

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.
5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
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The greatest weakness of the internet is the inability to communicate effectivly. Sure we can all read, but if you SAY something out loud, it's the tone of your voice, and your body language that communicate a LOT of information.

I am two different people, the real me, and the me people know by what they read. If I sound like an asshole or say something offensive to you, you just may have missed the laughter in my voice, and the hand pantomining and waving that people talking on a phone will do. Because in person, people laugh with me, beer is drunk, smokables smoked, and a good time is had by all. On the internet, I offen times get a response to one of my posts where it is clear that the person missed my point entirely, or even language that the person would never dare to use face to face.

In person, when I meet somebody who is anti-gun, my first response is to take them out shooting. Because the people who are anti gun have never even shot a gun, and dont know how fun it is. It's true that the number of people that actually take me up on the offer can be counted on one hand, but those people even years later are still in touch with me when they have a gun question, or need help with a scope mount or something.

Lots of people dont even realize that history shows that Governments that disarm the population are doing so because they want to "trim" down the population some. And the best and easiest way to do that is make sure they can not fight back. It's my main selling point on gun ownership, because if the Government does not trust me with a firearm, THEN WHY SHOULD I TRUST THEM???? It's the litmus test to what a person is all about....
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The greatest weakness of the internet is the inability to communicate effectivly. Sure we can all read, but if you SAY something out loud, it's the tone of your voice, and your body language that communicate a LOT of information.

I am two different people, the real me, and the me people know by what they read. If I sound like an asshole or say something offensive to you, you just may have missed the laughter in my voice, and the hand pantomining and waving that people talking on a phone will do. Because in person, people laugh with me, beer is drunk, smokables smoked, and a good time is had by all. On the internet, I offen times get a response to one of my posts where it is clear that the person missed my point entirely, or even language that the person would never dare to use face to face.

In person, when I meet somebody who is anti-gun, my first response is to take them out shooting. Because the people who are anti gun have never even shot a gun, and dont know how fun it is. It's true that the number of people that actually take me up on the offer can be counted on one hand, but those people even years later are still in touch with me when they have a gun question, or need help with a scope mount or something.

Lots of people dont even realize that history shows that Governments that disarm the population are doing so because they want to "trim" down the population some. And the best and easiest way to do that is make sure they can not fight back. It's my main selling point on gun ownership, because if the Government does not trust me with a firearm, THEN WHY SHOULD I TRUST THEM???? It's the litmus test to what a person is all about....
 Quoting: Whiskey Brother 917784



All well said......Got to go.....the wife is keeping the bed warm for me............"Press on"
COUNTRY FIRST

These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read:

1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.
5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
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I'm tired of OP's attitude.

Sorry bud but defending your property to the neighbor's line don't cut it.

What ya doin bout that radiation falling from the sky?

Awwww shit, guess that shotgun don't do ya a lick of good protecting your kids after all...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1362910


I guess your an Obama-Tard eh. Yeah, my shotgun doesn't protect against radiation does it dumb ass. However, keeping my family out of the rain/snow etc. drinking bottled water purchased before this shit happened and having dosimeters helps "a little". Yeah, you don't like my attitude, well, here is what you can do about that. Go to your basement, grab a gun, if you own one, put your head over something easily cleaned and shoot yourself in the fuckin' face. Preferably right between the eyes. Try not to make a mess though you jackwagon. You don't like my attitude...ha...you shouldn't be allowed to breed. Hopefully you haven't polluted this world with your seed.
"Democracy is two
wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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The greatest weakness of the internet is the inability to communicate effectivly. Sure we can all read, but if you SAY something out loud, it's the tone of your voice, and your body language that communicate a LOT of information.

I am two different people, the real me, and the me people know by what they read. If I sound like an asshole or say something offensive to you, you just may have missed the laughter in my voice, and the hand pantomining and waving that people talking on a phone will do. Because in person, people laugh with me, beer is drunk, smokables smoked, and a good time is had by all. On the internet, I offen times get a response to one of my posts where it is clear that the person missed my point entirely, or even language that the person would never dare to use face to face.

In person, when I meet somebody who is anti-gun, my first response is to take them out shooting. Because the people who are anti gun have never even shot a gun, and dont know how fun it is. It's true that the number of people that actually take me up on the offer can be counted on one hand, but those people even years later are still in touch with me when they have a gun question, or need help with a scope mount or something.

Lots of people dont even realize that history shows that Governments that disarm the population are doing so because they want to "trim" down the population some. And the best and easiest way to do that is make sure they can not fight back. It's my main selling point on gun ownership, because if the Government does not trust me with a firearm, THEN WHY SHOULD I TRUST THEM???? It's the litmus test to what a person is all about....
 Quoting: Whiskey Brother 917784



All well said......Got to go.....the wife is keeping the bed warm for me............"Press on"
 Quoting: Zombie Killer



Very, Very well put. I have noticed that nearly all people who are anti-gun have no idea which end the bullet comes out of. I don't know if this is just life or if people are just so ignorant that they don't care enough to make informed decisions on topics. I read an article not long ago in a local paper here where a representative stated that he had be pro-medical marijuana until his 13 year old grand daughter swayed him with talk of how bad things were in her high school because of Marijuana. Now, this representative basically stated that his 13 year old was going to dictate policy for everyone in the state I live in. I ask him this question, what exactly does his 13 year old have on him that would make him sway policy on her say. The first thing that comes to my mind is grandpa is poking the 13 year old, why else would she have so much influence over our states policies. but hey, that is just me.

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"Democracy is two
wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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Yah I like his attitude, tired of all that sissy, liberal, free Tibet, love our current president, ain't pmsnbc, and cnn sweet, shit...He sounds like Trump...I like it.





I'm tired of OP's attitude.

Sorry bud but defending your property to the neighbor's line don't cut it.

What ya doin bout that radiation falling from the sky?

Awwww shit, guess that shotgun don't do ya a lick of good protecting your kids after all...
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Wow, what a dumb ass statement...............
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How many decades have Republicans been saying Dems are going to take their guns away? Yet it hasn't happened yet or ever will period!
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I'm tired of OP's attitude.

Sorry bud but defending your property to the neighbor's line don't cut it.

What ya doin bout that radiation falling from the sky?

Awwww shit, guess that shotgun don't do ya a lick of good protecting your kids after all...
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Wow, what a dumb ass statement...............
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Care to elaborate?

In the event that my position isn't clear, 100% pro-2nd amendment and 0% on the effectiveness of guns as a comprehensive self-defense strategy.
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Yep... I have to agree. The other guy was correct. You ARE a total dumbass.
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come and get it.....
i dare you....
you think the muslims just shook the earth....
you aint seen nuthin yet....
it would take my small town of 250 k no more than 1 hour to meetup at the walmart with all our stuff...
a full batallion equipped with ak 47's 100 shot clips and a myriad of shotguns pistols rifles and god knows what truthfully some of these rednecks have...
i forgot beer too....
who wants a piece of that......
cmon and get you some....
i wait for the day....
the revolution will start...
please mr obama,, throw the first punch....
i think it would only be fitting, the first black president trying to take the guns from whites.....
lets get it on.............
its time....
you make the first move.....
if you've got the balls....
give us one hour...
and were gonna wipe the earths ass with your face.....
just a thought.....
tomato
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This debate over "gun control" has been going on for years. What heats us, is the fact that this is our right to own a gun. The Government wants nothing more than to take that right away, because once we are armless, they have us right where they want us - defenseless. I'm just waiting for Ms. Gifford to return...just wait for what she's going to try to impose on our rights.
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OP, you will bend over and take it in the shorts just like all good, fluoride sucking sheep.....


You know fuck nut, not that I like to talk much about it, but how many people have you had to kill? Me, I have had to kill 2 that are confirmed. I know of 3 more that were wounded. As for the bending over part, I may bend over for a second, "to pick your head up off the ground before I cut your fucking throat so I can hear the last bits of life gurgle out of your pathetic fucking neck. You my friend, should fucking do us all a favor and shoot yourself, I have seen people like you in combat, you cower down and pray for it to be over. Then you talk about how big of a bad ass you were. If, that is, you even had the balls to join the military. And since you are signed in as "Anonymous COWARD" I am going to go out on a limb here and say NO, you didn't have the balls. If, by chance you did enlist for the college money, you were probably in a non-combat MOS yet you talk about all the shit you did. Me, I spent my time in the Infantry, after that, 11 years in SWAT until I got a broken neck on the job. Trust me, the only take-it-in-the-ass-bitch in this conversation is you.

What is a fluoride sucking sheep any way, are you saying that I clean my teeth? Fucking retarded bitch. Go molest your children.






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wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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This debate over "gun control" has been going on for years. What heats us, is the fact that this is our right to own a gun. The Government wants nothing more than to take that right away, because once we are armless, they have us right where they want us - defenseless. I'm just waiting for Ms. Gifford to return...just wait for what she's going to try to impose on our rights.
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Oh fuck, I can see that one coming BIG TIME. Like taking guns away from honest people does a fucking thing to stop crime. 99 percent of criminals don't exactly go register their fuckin' guns now do they? Christ on a broken crutch, I am so tired of the demmies trying to take our guns and the republicans trying to take our money. It is a lose lose situation. We need to take them all out into the wading pool and shoot the fucks. Then, say, now...who wants to do this shit the RIGHT way. No kick backs, no bribes, no bullshit.

Its always a friggin' choice, pick the lesser of the two evils in this country anymore. I personally am friggin' sick and tired of it.

Germany, is a great example, they started out with "regulation" from there, bans on "certain" weapons, from there, all guns go bye bye and then, we are fucked up like a soup sandwich.
"Democracy is two
wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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I'm tired of OP's attitude.

Sorry bud but defending your property to the neighbor's line don't cut it.

What ya doin bout that radiation falling from the sky?

Awwww shit, guess that shotgun don't do ya a lick of good protecting your kids after all...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1362910


Wow, what a dumb ass statement...............
 Quoting: Zombie Killer


Care to elaborate?

In the event that my position isn't clear, 100% pro-2nd amendment and 0% on the effectiveness of guns as a comprehensive self-defense strategy.
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0% on guns as a comprehensive self defense strategy.
Hmm. So what is your self-defense strategy, tell them they can fuck your wife all they want as long as they leave you alone? Tell you what, show up at my house, at about 0200 and come on in, I will prove to you that my gun is a greatly effective self defense "TOOL" in my overall defense strategy. So is my alarm that only sounds next to my head on my head board which, gives me the chance to grab my 3 1/2" Mag 12 Guage with Flachette rounds chambered holding 9 rounds. 1 shot will pretty much cut you in half unless you are some 400 pound fat bastard and even then, it will plaster the wall with your flab.


poop
"Democracy is two
wolves and a lamb
voting on what to
have for lunch.
Liberty is a
well-armed lamb
contesting the vote"
~ Benjamin Franklin.
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This debate over "gun control" has been going on for years. What heats us, is the fact that this is our right to own a gun. The Government wants nothing more than to take that right away, because once we are armless, they have us right where they want us - defenseless. I'm just waiting for Ms. Gifford to return...just wait for what she's going to try to impose on our rights.
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The debate on gun control will go on for as long as we are alive.
I really don't think that Rep. Gifford is going to change her mind about the right to bear arms. She and her husband were both pro 2nd amendment. It didn't change the mind of John Green, the father of the little girl Christina Taylor Green that was murdered there, he is still pro 2nd amendment and doesn't want any restrictions, because he knows that it was a loon that did this.......not a normal citizen/person. Freedom is not free......
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1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity.
2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.
3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else.
4. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation.
5. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.
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Lets re-open this discussion with a few fact highlights:


* Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year—or about 6,850 times a day.1 This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.2

* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense with a firearm every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America"—a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.3

* Concealed carry laws have reduced murder and crime rates in the states that have enacted them. According to a comprehensive study which reviewed crime statistics in every county in the United States from 1977 to 1992, states which passed concealed carry laws reduced their rate of murder by 8.5%, rape by 5%, aggravated assault by 7% and robbery by 3%.4

* Anti-gun journal pronounces the failure of the Brady law. One of the nation’s leading anti-gun medical publications, the Journal of the American Medical Association, found that the Brady registration law has failed to reduce murder rates. In August 2000, JAMA reported that states implementing waiting periods and background checks did "not [experience] reductions in homicide rates or overall suicide rates."5

* Twice as many children are killed playing football in school than are murdered by guns. That’s right. Despite what media coverage might seem to indicate, there are more deaths related to high school football than guns. In a recent three year period, twice as many football players died from hits to the head, heat stroke, etc. (45), as compared with students who were murdered by firearms (22) during that same time period.6

* More guns, less crime. In the decade of the 1990s, the number of guns in this country increased by roughly 40 million—even while the murder rate decreased by almost 40% percent.7 Accidental gun deaths in the home decreased by almost 40 percent as well.8

* CDC admits there is no evidence that gun control reduces crime. The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) has long been criticized for propagating questionable studies which gun control organizations have used in defense of their cause. But after analyzing 51 studies in 2003, the CDC concluded that the "evidence was insufficient to determine the effectiveness of any of these [firearms] laws."9

* Gun shows are NOT a primary source of illegal guns for criminals. According to two government studies, the National Institute of Justice reported in 1997 that "less than two percent [of criminals] reported obtaining [firearms] from a gun show."10 And the Bureau of Justice Statistics revealed in 2001 that less than one percent of firearm offenders acquired their weapons at gun shows.11

* Several polls show that Americans are very pro-gun. Several scientific polls indicate that the right to keep and bear arms is still revered—and gun control disdained—by a majority of Americans today. To mention just a few recent polls:

* In 2002, an ABC News poll found that almost three-fourths of the American public believe that the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution protects the rights of "individuals" to own guns.12

* Zogby pollsters found that by a more than 3 to 1 margin, Americans support punishing "criminals who use a gun in the commission of a crime" over legislation to "ban handguns."13

* A Research 2000 poll found that 85% of Americans would find it appropriate for a principal or teacher to use "a gun at school to defend the lives of students" to stop a school massacre.14

* A study claiming "guns are three times more likely to kill you than help you" is a total fraud. Even using the low figures from the Clinton Justice Department, firearms are used almost 50 times more often to save life than to take life.15 More importantly, however, the figure claiming one is three times more likely to be killed by one’s own gun is a total lie:

* Researcher Don Kates reveals that all available data now indicates that the "home gun homicide victims [in the flawed study] were killed using guns not kept in the victim's home."16

* In other words, the victims were NOT murdered with their own guns! They were killed "by intruders who brought their own guns to the victim's household."17

* Gun-free England not such a utopia after all. According to the BBC News, handgun crime in the United Kingdom rose by 40% in the two years after it passed its draconian gun ban in 1997.18 And according to a United Nations study, British citizens are more likely to become a victim of crime than are people in the United States. The 2000 report shows that the crime rate in England is higher than the crime rates of 16 other industrialized nations, including the United States.19

2. Self-defense

A. Guns save more lives than they take; prevent more injuries than they inflict

* Guns are used 2.5 million times a year in self-defense. Law-abiding citizens use guns to defend themselves against criminals as many as 2.5 million times every year—or about 6,850 times a day20. This means that each year, firearms are used more than 80 times more often to protect the lives of honest citizens than to take lives.21

* Of the 2.5 million times citizens use their guns to defend themselves every year, the overwhelming majority merely brandish their gun or fire a warning shot to scare off their attackers. Less than 8% of the time, a citizen will kill or wound his/her attacker.22

* As many as 200,000 women use a gun every year to defend themselves against sexual abuse.23

* Even anti-gun Clinton researchers concede that guns are used 1.5 million times annually for self-defense. According to the Clinton Justice Department, there are as many as 1.5 million cases of self-defense with a firearm every year. The National Institute of Justice published this figure in 1997 as part of "Guns in America"—a study which was authored by noted anti-gun criminologists Philip Cook and Jens Ludwig.24

* Armed citizens kill more crooks than do the police. Citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as police do every year (1,527 to 606)25. And readers of Newsweek learned that "only 2 percent of civilian shootings involved an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal. The ‘error rate’ for the police, however, was 11 percent, more than five times as high."26

* Handguns are the weapon of choice for self-defense. Citizens use handguns to protect themselves over 1.9 million times a year.27 Many of these self-defense handguns could be labeled as "Saturday Night Specials."

B. Concealed carry laws help reduce crime

* Nationwide: one-half million self-defense uses. Every year, as many as one-half million citizens defend themselves with a firearm away from home.28

* Concealed carry laws are dropping crime rates across the country. A comprehensive national study determined in 1996 that violent crime fell after states made it legal to carry concealed firearms. The results of the study showed:

* States which passed concealed carry laws reduced their rate of murder by 8.5%, rape by 5%, aggravated assault by 7% and robbery by 3%;29 and

* If those states not having concealed carry laws had adopted such laws in 1992, then approximately 1,570 murders, 4,177 rapes, 60,000 aggravated assaults and over 11,000 robberies would have been avoided yearly.30

* Vermont: one of the safest five states in the country. In Vermont, citizens can carry a firearm without getting permission . . . without paying a fee . . . or without going through any kind of government-imposed waiting period. And yet for ten years in a row, Vermont has remained one of the top-five, safest states in the union—having three times received the "Safest State Award."31

* Florida: concealed carry helps slash the murder rate in the state. In the fifteen years following the passage of Florida's concealed carry law in 1987, over 800,000 permits to carry firearms were issued to people in the state.32 FBI reports show that the homicide rate in Florida, which in 1987 was much higher than the national average, fell 52% during that 15-year period—thus putting the Florida rate below the national average.33

* Do firearms carry laws result in chaos? No. Consider the case of Florida. A citizen in the Sunshine State is far more likely to be attacked by an alligator than to be assaulted by a concealed carry holder.

* During the first fifteen years that the Florida law was in effect, alligator attacks outpaced the number of crimes committed by carry holders by a 229 to 155 margin.34

* And even the 155 "crimes" committed by concealed carry permit holders are somewhat misleading as most of these infractions resulted from Floridians who accidentally carried their firearms into restricted areas, such as an airport.35

* Concealed Carry v. Waiting Period Laws. In 1976, both Georgia and Wisconsin tried two different approaches to fighting crime. Georgia enacted legislation making it easier for citizens to carry guns for self-defense, while Wisconsin passed a law requiring a 48 hour waiting period before the purchase of a handgun. What resulted during the ensuing years? Georgia's law served as a deterrent to criminals and helped drop its homicide rate by 21 percent. Wisconsin's murder rate, however, rose 33 percent during the same period.36

C. Criminals avoid armed citizens

* Kennesaw, GA. In 1982, this suburb of Atlanta passed a law requiring heads of households to keep at least one firearm in the house. The residential burglary rate subsequently dropped 89% in Kennesaw, compared to the modest 10.4% drop in Georgia as a whole.37

* Ten years later (1991), the residential burglary rate in Kennesaw was still 72% lower than it had been in 1981, before the law was passed.38

* Nationwide. Statistical comparisons with other countries show that burglars in the United States are far less apt to enter an occupied home than their foreign counterparts who live in countries where fewer civilians own firearms. Consider the following rates showing how often a homeowner is present when a burglar strikes:

* Homeowner occupancy rate in the gun control countries of Great Britain, Canada and Netherlands: 45% (average of the three countries); and,

* Homeowner occupancy rate in the United States: 12.7%.39

Rapes averted when women carry or use firearms for protection

* Orlando, FL. In 1966-67, the media highly publicized a safety course which taught Orlando women how to use guns. The result: Orlando’s rape rate dropped 88% in 1967, whereas the rape rate remained constant in the rest of Florida and the nation.40

* Nationwide. In 1979, the Carter Justice Department found that of more than 32,000 attempted rapes, 32% were actually committed. But when a woman was armed with a gun or knife, only 3% of the attempted rapes were actually successful.41

Justice Department study:

* 3/5 of felons polled agreed that "a criminal is not going to mess around with a victim he knows is armed with a gun."42

* 74% of felons polled agreed that "one reason burglars avoid houses when people are at home is that they fear being shot during the crime."43

* 57% of felons polled agreed that "criminals are more worried about meeting an armed victim than they are about running into the police."44

D. Police cannot protect—and are not required to protect—every individual

* The courts have consistently ruled that the police do not have an obligation to protect individuals, only the public in general. For example, in Warren v. D.C. the court stated "courts have without exception concluded that when a municipality or other governmental entity undertakes to furnish police services, it assumes a duty only to the public at large and not to individual members of the community."45

* Former Florida Attorney General Jim Smith told Florida legislators that police responded to only about 200,000 of 700,000 calls for help to Dade County authorities. Smith was asked why so many citizens in Dade County were buying guns and he said, "They damn well better, they've got to protect themselves."46

* The Department of Justice found that in 1989, there were 168,881 crimes of violence which were not responded to by police within 1 hour.47

* The numbers clearly show that the police cannot protect every individual. In 1996, there were about 150,000 police officers on duty at any one time to protect a population of more than 260 million Americans—or more than 1,700 citizens per officer.48

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