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I am the real John Lear...ask me a question

 
gatherer

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Thanks for sharing that, I look forward to reading it.
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John, What do you say to folks who haven't got a clue they have been lied to, and are genuinely saddened by NASA's announcement the US manned space program is no more.
They see it as a giant step backward and blame Obama.

I have a couple of friends like this. I find myself tongue tied because to tell them what I really think, would oust me as the radical I suppose I am, and it wouldn't bring them to the truth. They would only deny it.

Is there a gentler way of leading them to the truth?
 Quoting: gatherer



No. And don't try to lead anybody. I don't. Worry about yourself and about your family, that will keep your hands full.

Where in trying to live your life with integrity; and without envy, hate or greed does it mention to try leading your friends somewhere?

Remember what Harry Truman said when asked why he was always giving poeple hell? He said, "I just tell people the truth and they think its hell."

Consider yourself extremely lucky to have figured it out.

All the best,
 Quoting: johnlear


I hear you. It's only been a short time since I discovered that I'm not here to change the world, only my sorry self.
It takes time.

I consider myself lucky that you are here to set me straight.
But now I gotta ask, why do you bother helping the likes of us, when you clearly have your hands full living with integrity; and without envy, hate or greed?
:)
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John...you're philosophy is the root of discusions we are having with certain friends of mine.

One in particular fought in 5 theatres...IRA at home, Falklands, Lebanese, Gulf One and Afghan when the USSR was in field.

The arguement is ...for example...integrity of a Afghan fighting the USSR would be the samw as the Afghan fighting the USA and the Brits etc.

So where does that put the Brits or the Yanks?

do u see...i am sure u do....

What say u?
“I am not what happened to me, I am what I choose to become.”
― C.G. Jung
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Hey John ,I had what I thought would be a good question for you .I had to do with why the cresent of the moon changes orientation through the night, well some times, its not always at night.I have been tring to get it right in my minds eye, but my mental gymnastics could not come up with a satisfying answer.


Then I thought I can't ask John that until I LOOK FOR THE ANSWER MYSELF!!

Well here is what I came up with [link to www.math.nus.edu.sg]

once I understood that the cresent faces the sun it all fell into place.

Last Edited by hoss58 on 10/06/2011 02:45 PM
When you die you will find out that John Lear was right .....Hoss
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John...you're philosophy is the root of discussions we are having with certain friends of mine.

One in particular fought in 5 theatres...IRA at home, Falklands, Lebanese, Gulf One and Afghan when the USSR was in field.

The argument is ...for example...integrity of a Afghan fighting the USSR would be the same as the Afghan fighting the USA and the Brits etc.

So where does that put the Brits or the Yanks?

do u see...i am sure u do....
What say u?
 Quoting: BillyBob


Wars are concocted for several reasons none of which have a legitimate purpose:

test out new weapons systems
augmentation of rank
stimulate the military industrial economy
divert the publics attention for one purpose or another
theft of land
theft of natural resources
to acquire power and control over a greater number of people

Earth is a war bases planet and always will be simply because new and bad souls are continually being dumped here.

There will never be a freedom and justice for all. And there needn't be because each of us is here for himself and to learn how to live his/her life with integrity; and without envy, hate or greed.

Ours is not to sit around and try and make the world a better place. We are here for the world to make us a better soul. If it was all hunky dory where would we get any challenges to improve ourselves?

No war in Afghanistan will ever be won simply because Afghan is not a country per se. It is a loose alliance of hundreds of thousands of tribal chieftains each of whom have a separate goal.

There is a secret about the larger war for the middle east And I don't know what the secret is. It is an ET secret. ET continually foments these wars for the purpose of this secret.

The U.S. attempts to justify their reason for their unfounded attacks on democracy, god, freedom and a host of other nonsense. While we loot the natural resources such as oil and the hundreds of thousands of acres of prime poppy growing farmland.

There is only one reason that no one will ever win Afghanistan and that is the Afghanis love to fight. Its their very essence of being. They thrive on it. If there was no conflict they would invent one. They love to fight and kill.

The U.S. is only in Afghanistan to:

secure the pipeline from the Caspian sea
harvest the poppy to finance their black projects under the auspices of spreading democracy
test out new weapons systems
augmentation of military rank
stimulate the military industrial economy
divert the publics attention for one purpose or another

Oh, and to help ET in their war whatever that war is for.

One more thing to add here. The U.S. and Russia have been allied since the end of WWII for the specific purpose of eliminating the grays. They justify their collective misdeeds on that objective.

Will they ever get rid of the grays? Don't be ridiculous.:)
Live your life with integrity; and without envy hate or greed. Express your love to your family every day.

Thats all you have to do in this life other than doing things you like to do.
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Sorry John I understand that was a bit rough so let me rephrase the idea.

1754 and your sons are being conscripted for the British Navy to fight the French near Nova Scotia.

At which point do you say this far and no more?

This is a important question to me at the moment.

Or lets say your property is being transgressed. Do you battle or turn the other cheek?

The f off scenario was not something i did it was alegorical.

spelling incorrect probably above...

So if i live my life without greed...does that mean I allow them to transgress my rights?
 Quoting: BillyBob


No. It means you give your neighbor the best of the tomatoes you are growing in your back yard.

You have no rights and you have no free will. Get over it.

I do not have greed persay...if i am protecting a God given right of liberty.
 Quoting: BillyBob


There is no God and there is no right of liberty. Get over it.

Sorry if I offended you. hanging around with too many Brits...lol...
 Quoting: BillyBob

No offense taken. Thanks for the post.
Live your life with integrity; and without envy hate or greed. Express your love to your family every day.

Thats all you have to do in this life other than doing things you like to do.
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No. It means you give your neighbor the best of the tomatoes you are growing in your back yard.

wHAT THE HECK...HOW DID U KNOW THAT???!!!
“I am not what happened to me, I am what I choose to become.”
― C.G. Jung
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I hate to disagree with you John, but God is love and you do know love dont you John?
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Mr. Lear,

I thought it was about time I let you know that I wrote a song about you, have been linking to "thelivingmoon" for over a year now, and in general, am a fan of everything you are. That is all. Take care.
[link to www.youtube.com]

John, What do you say to folks who haven't got a clue they have been lied to, and are genuinely saddened by NASA's announcement the US manned space program is no more.
They see it as a giant step backward and blame Obama.

I have a couple of friends like this. I find myself tongue tied because to tell them what I really think, would oust me as the radical I suppose I am, and it wouldn't bring them to the truth. They would only deny it.

Is there a gentler way of leading them to the truth?



No. And don't try to lead anybody. I don't. Worry about yourself and about your family, that will keep your hands full.

Where in trying to live your life with integrity; and without envy, hate or greed does it mention to try leading your friends somewhere?

Remember what Harry Truman said when asked why he was always giving poeple hell? He said, "I just tell people the truth and they think its hell."

Consider yourself extremely lucky to have figured it out.

All the best,
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Animals have a different and special kind of soul. We should not abuse animals under any circumstances or for any reason.
 Quoting: johnlear


So eating them is definately bad?
 Quoting: acegotflows




Cows and sheep were put here for our gastronomic enjoyment. When I said not to abuse animals I was refering to dogs, cats, elephants, etc.


Where is the cutoff, the separation of which is an animal to eat and which to protect?

Sorry, I don't have an answer for that one. Until I find an answer I am going to enjoys my veal milanaise and t-bone. And share the scraps with my boxer Tigger.

I don't believe that there is any point in a vegetarian diet. That specific information, like most I have came from Sleeper.
 Quoting: johnlear



Thank you for clearing that up. I will continue to not eat turkeys and pigs, but I wont feel so bad cooking a turkey roast for my boys, come Thanksgiving.
 Quoting: gatherer

Why would you want to feed your sons tortured animal flesh?
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John , What do souls look like?
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If anyone is interested, I would read Capt. John Lear's take on that day. He knows what he is talking about...


Jerry V. Leaphart #jl4468
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
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DR. MORGAN REYNOLDS, on behalf of :
The United States of America :
:
Plaintiff, : ECF CASE
vs. :
: 07 CIV 4612 (GBD)
SCIENCE APPLICATIONS :
INTERNATIONAL CORP., et al :
: January 28, 2008
Defendants. :
AFFIDAVIT
STATE OF NEVADA :
COUNTY OF CLARK :
JOHN LEAR, of full age, being duly sworn, deposes and says:
I.
1. I am 65 years of age, a retired airline captain and former CIA pilot with over 19,000 hours of flight time, over 11,000 of which are in command of 3 or 4 engine jet transports, have flown over 100 different types

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of aircraft in 60 different countries around the world. I retired in 2001 after 40 years of flying.
2. I am the son of Learjet inventor, Bill Lear, and hold more FAA airman certificates than any other FAA certificated airman. These include the Airline Transport Pilot certificate with 23 type ratings, Flight Instructor, Flight Engineer, Flight Navigator, Ground Instructor, Aircraft Dispatcher, Control Tower Operator and Parachute Rigger.
3. I flew secret missions for the CIA in Southeast Asia, Eastern Europe, the Middle East and Africa between 1967 and 1983.
4. During the last 17 years of my career I worked for several passenger and cargo airlines as Captain, Check Airman and Instructor. I was certificated by the FAA as a North Atlantic (MNPS) Check Airman. I have extensive experience as command pilot and instructor in the Boeing 707, Douglas DC-8 and Lockheed L-1011.
5. I checked out as Captain on a Boeing 707 in 1973 and Captain on the Lockheed L-1011 in 1985.
6. I hold 17 world records including Speed Around the World in a Lear Jet Model 24 set in 1966 and was presented the PATCO (Professional Air Traffic Controller's Association) award for Outstanding Airmanship in 1968. I am a Senior Vice-Commander of the China Post 1, the American

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Legions Post for “Soldiers of Fortune”, a 24 year member of the Special Operations Association and member of Pilotfor911truth.org.
7. I have 4 daughters, 3 grandchildren and live with my wife of 37 years, Las Vegas business woman Marilee Lear in Las Vegas, Nevada.
II.
8. No Boeing 767 airliners hit the Twin Towers as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors. Such crashes did not occur because they are physically impossible as depicted for the following reasons:
A. In the case of UAL 175 going into the south tower, a real Boeing 767 would have begun 'telescoping' when the nose hit the 14 inch steel columns which are 39 inches on center. The vertical and horizontal tail would have instantaneously separated from the aircraft, hit the steel box columns and fallen to the ground.
B. The engines when impacting the steel columns would have maintained their general shape and either fallen to the ground or been recovered in the debris of the collapsed building. One alleged engine part was found on Murray Street but there should be three other engine cores weighing over 9000 pounds each. Normal operating temperatures for these engines are 650°C so they could not possibly have burned up. This is a photo of a similar sized engine from a McDonnell-Douglas MD-11 which impacted the ocean at a high rate of speed. You can see that the engine remains generally intact.(photo, [link to www.cbsnews.com]

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C. When and if the nose of an airplane came in contact with the buildings 14 inch by 14 inch steel box columns and then, 37 feet beyond, the steel box columns of the building core the momentum of the wings would have slowed drastically depriving them of the energy to penetrate the exterior steel box columns. The spars of the wing, which extend outward, could not possibly have penetrated the 14 inch by 14 inch steel box columns placed 39 inches on center and would have crashed to the ground.
D. The argument that the energy of the mass of the Boeing 767 at a speed of 540 mph fails because:
a. No Boeing 767 could attain that speed at 1000 feet
above sea level because of parasite drag which doubles with velocity and parasite power which cubes with velocity.
b. The fan portion of the engine is not designed to accept
the volume of dense air at that altitude and speed.
E. The piece of alleged external fuselage containing 3 or 4 window cutouts is inconsistent with an airplane that hit 14 inch steel box columns, placed 39 inches in center, at over 500 mph. This
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fuselage section would be telescopically crumpled had it actually penetrated the building as depicted in the CNN video. It is impossible for it to have then re-emerged from the building and then fallen intact and unburned as depicted.
F. The Purdue video fails because no significant part of the Boeing 767 or engine thereon could have penetrated the 14 inch steel columns and 37 feet beyond the massive core of the tower without part of it falling to the ground. The Purdue video misrepresents the construction of the core of the building and depicts unidentified parts of the airplane snapping the core columns which were 12"x36". The Purdue video also misrepresents what would happen to the tail when the alleged fuselage contacted the core. The tail would instantaneously separate from the empennage (aft fuselage). Further, the Purdue video misrepresents, indeed it fails to show, the wing box or center section of the wing in the collision with the core. The wing box is a very strong unit designed to hold the wings together and is an integral portion of the fuselage. The wing box is designed to help distribute the loads of the wings up-and-down flexing in flight.

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G. My analysis of the alleged cutout made by the Boeing 767 shows that many of the 14-inch exterior steel box columns which are shown as severed horizontally, do not match up with the position of the wings. Further, several of the columns through which the horizontal tail allegedly disappeared are not severed or broken. In addition, the wing tips of the Boeing 767 being of less robust construction than the inner portions of the wings could not possibly have made the cookie-cutter pattern as shown in the aftermath photos. The wing tips would have been stopped by the 14 inch steel box columns and fallen to the ground.
H. The debris of the Boeing 767, as found after the
collapse, was not consistent with actual debris had there really been a
crash. Massive forgings, spars from both the wing and horizontal and vertical stabilizers, landing gear retract cylinders, landing gear struts, hydraulic reservoirs and bogeys oxygen bottles, a massive keel beam, bulkheads and the wing box itself cold not possibly have 'evaporated' even in a high intensity fire. The debris of the collapse should have contained massive sections of the Boeing 767, including 3 engine cores weighing approximately 9000 pounds apiece which could not have been hidden. Yet there is no evidence of any of these massive structural components from either 767 at the WTC. Such complete disappearance of 767s is impossible.
III.
9. My opinion, based on extensive flight experience both as captain and instructor in large 3 and 4 engine aircraft is that it would have been impossible for an alleged hijacker with little or no time in the Boeing 767 to have taken over, then flown a Boeing 767 at high speed, descending to below 1000 feet above mean sea level and flown a course to impact the twin towers at high speed for these reasons:

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A. As soon as the alleged hijackers sat in the pilots seat of the Boeing 767 they would be looking at an EFIS (Electronic Flight Instrumentation System) display panel comprised of six large multi-mode LCDs interspersed with clusters of 'hard' instruments. These displays process the raw aircraft system and flight data into an integrated picture of the aircraft situation, position and progress, not only in the horizontal and vertical dimensions, but also with regard to time and speed as well.
Had they murdered the pilot with a box knife as alleged there would be blood all over the seat, the controls, the center pedestal, the instrument panel and floor of the cockpit. The hijacker would have had to remove the dead pilot from his seat which means he would have had electrically or manually place the seat in its rearmost position and then lifted the murdered pilot from his seat, further distributing blood, making the controls including the throttles wet, sticky and difficult to hold onto.
Even on a clear day a novice pilot would be wholly incapable of taking control and turning a Boeing 767 towards New York because of his total lack of experience and situational awareness under these conditions. The alleged hijackers were not 'instrument rated' and controlled high altitude flight requires experience in constantly referring to and cross-checking attitude, altitude and speed instruments. Using the distant horizon to fly 'visually' under controlled conditions is virtually impossible particularly at the cruising speed of the Boeing 767 of .80 Mach.
The alleged 'controlled' descent into New York on a relatively straight course by a novice pilot in unlikely in the extreme because of the difficulty of controlling heading, descent rate and descent speed within the parameters of 'controlled' flight.
Its takes a highly skilled pilot to interpret the "EFIS" (Electronic Flight Instrument Display) display, with which none of the hijacker pilots would have been familiar or received training on, and use his controls, including the ailerons, rudder, elevators, spoilers and throttles to effect, control and maintain a descent. The Boeing 767 does not fly itself nor does it automatically correct any misuse of the controls.

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B. As soon as the speed of the aircraft went above 360 knots (=414 mph) indicated airspeed a "clacker" would have sounded in the cockpit. The 'clacker' is a loud clacking sound, designed to be irritating, to instantly get the attention of the pilot that he is exceeding the FAA-authorized speed of the aircraft. The clacker had no circuit breaker on September 11, 2001 although it does now simply because one or more accidents were caused, in part, by the inability to silence the clacker which made decision, tempered with reasoning, impossible because of the noise and distraction.
C. Assuming, however, that the alleged hijacker was able to navigate into a position to approach the WTC tower at a speed of approximately 790 feet per second the alleged hijacker would have about 67 seconds to navigate the last 10 miles. During that 67 seconds the pilot would have to line up perfectly with a 208 ft. wide target (the tower) and stay lined up with the clacker clacking plus the tremendous air noise against the windshield and the bucking bronco-like airplane, exceeding the Boeing 767 maximum stability limits and encountering early morning turbulence caused by rising irregular currents of air.
He would also have to control his altitude with a high degree of
precision and at the alleged speeds would be extremely difficult.
In addition to this the control, although hydraulically boosted, would be very stiff. Just the slightest control movements would have sent the airplane up or down at thousands of feet a minute. To propose that an alleged hijacker with limited experience could get a Boeing 767 lined up with a 208 foot wide target and keep it lined up and hold his altitude at exactly 800 feet while being aurally bombarded with the clacker is beyond the realm of possibility. [NIST claims a descent from horizontal angle of 10.6 degrees for AA11 at impact and 6 degrees for UA175; see page 276 of 462 in NCSTAR 1-2].
That an alleged hijacker could overcome all of these difficulties and hit a 208 foot wide building dead center at the north tower and 23 feet east of dead center at the south tower is simply not possible. At the peak of my proficiency as a pilot I know that I could not have done it on the first pass. And for two alleged hijackers, with limited

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experience to have hit the twin towers dead center on September 11, 2001 is total fiction. It could not happen.
IV.
10. No Boeing 767 airliner(s) exceeded 500 mph in level flight at approximately 1000 feet on 9/11 as fraudulently alleged by the government, media, NIST and its contractors because they are incapable of such speeds at low altitude.
11. One of the critical issues of the 'impossible' speeds of the aircraft hitting the World Trade Center Towers alleged by NIST as 443 mph (385 kts. M.6, American Airlines Flight 11) and 542 mph (470 kts. M.75, United Airlines 175) is that the VD or dive velocity of the Boeing 767 as certificated by the Federal Aviation under 14 CFR Part 25 Airworthiness Standards; Transport Category Transports of 420 kts CAS (Calibrated Air Speed) makes these speeds achievable. This is unlikely.
12. The 'Dive Velocity' VD is 420 knots CAS (calibrated airspeed)(483 mph). Some allege that this speed, 420 knots (483 mph) is near enough to the NIST alleged speeds that the NIST speeds 443 (385 kts.) mph and 542 mph (471 kts.), could have been flown by the alleged hijackers and are probably correct.

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13. In fact VD of 420 knots (483 mph) is a speed that is a maximum for certification under 14 CFR Part 25.253 High Speed Characteristics and has not only not necessarily been achieved but is far above VFC (390 kts. 450 mph) which is the maximum speed at which stability characteristics must be demonstrated.(14 CFR 25.253 (b).
14. What this means is not only was VD not necessarily achieved but even if it was, it was achieved in a DIVE demonstrating controllability considerably above VFC which is the maximum speed under which stability characteristics must be demonstrated. Further, that as the alleged speed is considerably above VFC for which stability characteristics must be met, a hijacker who is not an experienced test pilot would have considerable difficulty in controlling the airplane, similar to flying a bucking bronco, much less hitting a 208 foot target dead center, at 800 feet altitude (above mean sea level) at the alleged speed.
15. Now to determine whether or not a Boeing 757 or Boeing 767 could even attain 540 miles per hour at 800 feet we have to first consider what the drag versus the power ratio is.
Drag is the effect of the air pushing against the frontal areas of the fuselage and wing and horizontal and vertical stabilizers. Drag also includes the friction that is a result of the air flowing over these surfaces. If there was no drag you could go very fast. But we do have drag and there are 2 types: induced and parasite. Assume we are going

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really fast as NIST and the defendants claim, then we don't have to consider induced drag because induced drag is caused by lift and varies inversely as the square of the airspeed. What this means is the faster you go the lower the induced drag.
What we do have to consider is parasite drag. Parasite drag is any drag produced that is not induced drag. Parasite drag is technically called 'form and friction' drag. It includes the air pushing against the entire airplane including the engines, as the engines try to push the entire airplane through the air.
16. We have two other things to consider: induced power and
parasite power.
Induced power varies inversely with velocity so we don't have to consider that because we are already going fast by assumption and it varies inversely.
Parasite power however varies as the cube of the velocity which
means to double the speed you have to cube or have three times the power.
17. So taking these four factors into consideration we are only concerned with two: parasite power and parasite drag, and if all other factors are constant, and you are level at 800 feet and making no turns, the parasite drag varies with the square of the velocity but parasite power varies as the cube of the velocity.
What this means is at double the speed, drag doubles and the power required to maintain such speed, triples.
The airspeed limitation for the Boeing 767 below approximately 23,000 feet is 360 kts [414 mph] or what they call VMO (velocity maximum operating).

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That means that the maximum permissible speed of the Boeing 767 below 23,000 feet is 360 knots and it is safe to operate the airplane at that speed but not faster.
18. While the Boeing 767 can fly faster and has been flown faster during flight test it is only done so within carefully planned flight test programs. We can safely infer that most commercial 767 pilots have never exceeded 360 knots indicated air speed below 23,000 feet.
19. The alleged NIST speed of 443 mph (385 kts,) for American Airlines Flight 11 would be technically achievable. However the NIST speed of 542 mph (470 kts) for United Airlines Flight 175 which is 50 kts. above VD is not commensurate with and/or possible considering:
(1) the power available,* **
(2) parasite drag (NAVAIR 00-80T-80 Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators
(3) parasite power (NAVAIR 00-80T-80 Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators
(4) the controllability by a pilot with limited experience. 14 CFR Part 25.253 (a)(b)
* [link to www.ntsb.gov]
** [link to www.content.airbusworld.com]
20. Therefore the speed of the aircraft, that hit the World Trade Center, as represented by NIST, particularly that of United Airlines Flight 175 is fraudulent and could not have occurred.

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21. One more consideration is the impossibility of the PW4062 turbofan engines to operate in dense air at sea level altitude at high speed.
The Boeing 767 was designed to fly at high altitudes at a maximum Mach of .86 or 86/100ths the speed of sound. This maximum speed is called MMO, (Maximum Mach Operating). Its normal cruise speed, however, is Mach .80 (about 530 mph) or less, for better fuel economy. (The speed of sound at 35,000 feet is 663 mph so 530 mph is Mach .7998 see [link to www.grc.nasa.gov]
The fan tip diameter of the PW4062 which powered UAL 175 was 94 inches, over 7 feet in diameter making it, essentially a huge propeller.
This huge fan compresses enormous amount of air during takeoff to produce the thrust necessary to get the airplane off of the ground and into the air.
At high altitudes, in cruise, where the air is much thinner and where the engines are designed to fly at most of the time, the fan and turbine sections are designed to efficiently accept enormous amounts of this thin air and produce an enormous amount of thrust.
But at low altitudes, in much denser air, such as one thousand feet, where the air is over 3x as dense as at 35,000 feet, going much faster than Vmo or 360 knots, the air is going to start jamming up in the engine simply because a turbofan engine is not designed to take the enormous quantities of dense air at high speed, low altitude flight. Because of the much denser air the fan blades will be jammed with so much air they will start cavitating or choking causing the engines to start spitting air back out the front. The turbofan tip diameter is over 7 feet; it simply cannot accept that much dense air, at that rate, because they aren't designed to.
So achieving an airspeed much over its Vmo which is 360 knots isn't going to be possible coupled with the fact that because the parasite drag increases as the square of the speed and the power

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required increases as the cube of the speed you are not going to be able to get the speed with the thrust (power) available.
It can be argued that modern aerodynamic principles hold that if an aircraft can fly at 35,000 ft altitude at 540 mph (~Mach 0.8), and for a given speed, both engine thrust and airframe drag vary approximately in proportion to air density (altitude), that the engine can produce enough thrust to fly 540 mph at 800 ft. altitude.
That argument fails because although the engine might be theoretically capable of producing that amount of thrust, the real question is can that amount of thrust be extracted from it at 540 mph at 800 ft.
22, To propose that a Boeing 767 airliner exceeded its designed limit speed of 360 knots by 127 mph to fly through the air at 540 mph is simply not possible. It is not possible because of the thrust required and it's not possible because of the engine fan design which precludes accepting the amount of dense air being forced into it.
23. I am informed that the lawsuit for which this affidavit is intended is in its preliminary, pre-discovery phase. I am further informed that actual eyewitness statements cast considerable doubt on the jetliner crash claims, irrespective of the media-driven impression that there were lots of witnesses. In fact, the witnesses tend, on balance, to confirm there were no jetliner crashes. I am also informed that information that will enable further refinement of the issues addressed in this affidavit will be forthcoming in discovery including, without limitation, the opportunity to

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take depositions and to request relevant documentation (additional information). When that additional information is obtained, I will then be in a position to offer such other and further opinions as, upon analysis, that additional information will mandate.
24. At this stage, it cannot properly be assumed, much less asserted
as factual, that wide-body jetliners crashed into the then Twin Towers of the WTC. Any declaration that such events occurred must be deemed false and fraudulently asserted, video images notwithstanding.
Notes:
1. On any chart plotting velocity versus either drag or thrust required or power required the parasite value rises sharply after 300 kts,
2. On any chart plotting velocity versus thrust or power required the curves rises sharply after 250 kts.
3. On any chart plotting velocity versus thrust required at sea level, the curve rises dramatically above 200 kts as does the curve for power required.
I swear the above statements to be true to the best of my knowledge.
_/s/ John Olsen Lear___________
John Olsen Lear
1414 N. Hollywood Blvd.
Las Vegas, NV 89110-2006
Subscribed and Sworn to before
me this 24 day of January 2008.
/s/ Connie Jones______________
Notary Public/Appt Exp. 11/22/09
Certificate #94-2650-1

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This is the page for the Boeing 767-200 Type Data Certificate information from which was used in this affidavit:
<rgl.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_library/rgMakeMode l.nsf/0/15302e51a401f11a8625718b00658962/$FILE/A1NM.pdf >.
This is the page that shows how dive tests are conducted:
[link to www.flightsimaviation.com]
This is the page for the type data certificate for the engines used on UAL175
[link to www.content.airbusworld.com]
This is the page that shows the type of engine used on the MD-11 that crashed into the ocean. (photo attached)
[link to www.bst.gc.ca]

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Hi Mr. Lear, when you get around to it here are my questions:

1) Anything interesting about Al Qaeda?

2) What are you thoughts on the souls residing in feral children?

3) One morning, I rolled out of bed, got ready for work and grabbed an apple to eat on the road, warmed my car up and drove off.

I was eating my apple during my commute to work and then suddenly, I woke up again. I was still in bed and my alarm had not gone off yet and so then I just repeated everything except this time I just decided not to bring an apple with me.

It was just as real to me the second time around that I was worried maybe I was going to wake up in bed again.
What do you think happened to me (or my soul) that morning?
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I have a real good Tomato crop right now with some nice looking fruit John.

I will take your advice as they ripen and give my neighbour some nice tomato. We have a bbq every Sat and drink a few beers.

He is former airforce and we ofeten talk about your theories.

He thinks your nuts which I believe is his way of saying that I am nuts. lol

Not really.

No..maybe he is right.

Anyhow.....the bottom line is we both enjoy your take on this world and its place in our universe.

May I recomend a good beer.
Gonzo Imperial Porter by Flying Dog Brewery.

Very tasty and good warm...as I drink me beer warm much to the look of disgust from my yank neighbour.

[link to www.ratebeer.com]

My neighbour is drinking Octoberfest Sam Adams cold.

My arguement concerning cold beer is that you cannot properly taste anything if it is cold.

lol

Too bad you are in vegas as we would invite you over.

At the very least next time i see my "doctor" who is a pilot and whose father worked for the agency I will mention the idea of flying to Vegas and bring you some Flying Dog Gonzo Imperial Porter.

Good stuff...

Thanks for the answer.

still believe in God but the idea of USSR and USA being good cop bad cop is one that ... we all agree with. lol

Putin is gearing up to be the strongman. lol
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Hey John, check this out and please let me know if you have seen this footage before:

[link to www.dailymotion.com]


The person who has released this footage and photos describes it as follows:

"The footage I have available has been kept in a close relative's private safe for the past 30 years. It was procured from a worker within the Nasa program during the early 70's and has been stored away until now.
The photos and footage contain over 100 un-edited and UNSEEN photos from the moon and Mars, including un-aired footage from a 1974 manned mission to Mars."
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Hey John, check this out and please let me know if you have seen this footage before:

[link to www.dailymotion.com]


The person who has released this footage and photos describes it as follows:

"The footage I have available has been kept in a close relative's private safe for the past 30 years. It was procured from a worker within the Nasa program during the early 70's and has been stored away until now.
The photos and footage contain over 100 un-edited and UNSEEN photos from the moon and Mars, including un-aired footage from a 1974 manned mission to Mars."
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I believe that this footage was used as the teaser for he SciFi channel when it first came on cable 15 or 20 years ago, I remember it well.

all the best
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Hey John, check this out and please let me know if you have seen this footage before:

[link to www.dailymotion.com]


The person who has released this footage and photos describes it as follows:

"The footage I have available has been kept in a close relative's private safe for the past 30 years. It was procured from a worker within the Nasa program during the early 70's and has been stored away until now.
The photos and footage contain over 100 un-edited and UNSEEN photos from the moon and Mars, including un-aired footage from a 1974 manned mission to Mars."
 Quoting: nexuseditor




I believe that this footage was used as the teaser for he SciFi channel when it first came on cable 15 or 20 years ago, I remember it well.

all the best
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I recognize this as a clip from the movie "Alternative 3"
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Hey John, check this out and please let me know if you have seen this footage before:

[link to www.dailymotion.com]


The person who has released this footage and photos describes it as follows:

"The footage I have available has been kept in a close relative's private safe for the past 30 years. It was procured from a worker within the Nasa program during the early 70's and has been stored away until now.
The photos and footage contain over 100 un-edited and UNSEEN photos from the moon and Mars, including un-aired footage from a 1974 manned mission to Mars."
 Quoting: nexuseditor




I believe that this footage was used as the teaser for he SciFi channel when it first came on cable 15 or 20 years ago, I remember it well.

all the best
 Quoting: johnlear


I recognize this as a clip from the movie "Alternative 3"
 Quoting: Tourmaline 2857545


Alternative 3: [link to en.wikipedia.org]

Alternative 3: [link to www.youtube.com]
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This just in.. [link to www.bbc.co.uk]

Nice to see you are still ahead of MSM.. Have a nice
Fall Weekend? Which game will you be watching?

Cheers.
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The four con jobs.

Religion

I see that religion is a strong delusion which subjects the minds of the subjects under the control of the leaders of various patterns of thought and belief.

Is religion bad or evil?

It can be but I believe it serves a purpose as a tutor allowing person whose hearts are inclined toward selfish acts, those who have minimal conscious or empathy to have a measuring stick with which they are taught to use in order to see themselves under the light of truth.

lol

The issue with the above scenario lies in the fact that many under this system will, like any well trained pavlovian dog, obey the rules and use those same rules to oppress his ir her neighbour...loved one etc.

lol

The story of Jesus Christ shows this aspect as he confronted the Pharisee's who obeyed the Old Testement practices down to every jot and tittle of the Mosiac Law yet they forgot the weightier matters such as justice and mercy upon ones fellow human being.

Note for example when they were going to stone the women caught in adultry. Jesus said let him who is without sin cast the first stone and they all left one by one as Jesus wrote in the sand.

OR In the Temple in Jerusalem when Jesus overturned the money exchange tables as it robbed the poor and turned the worship of God into a business.

lol



I understand that you do not believe in God per say, which is fine.

I am on the other end of the scale...I believe that all things, whether above us, below us, in us or beside us exist in him.

In Him we live and move and have our being. lol But I do understand your position.

The reason i understand your position simply lies in the things i have witnessed under which I came out scathed and scarred...both physicaly and mentaly. PTSD...body scarred up, broken bones, cuts and wounds...and brothers in arms(so to speak) gone...
enough said

Cold War

The perception I had of the USSR verses the USA can be viewed as...

Russia/USSR USA/NATO

Oppresion vs Freedom
Godless vs In God We Trust
Gulag/lack of Justice vs Justice for all
repression of liberty vs Freedom of worship/religion
live/die for the state vs live/die for liberty

Now of course I see the bollocks of it all.

It was good cop/bad cop....that is all donkey...lol

MOON

Just getting this under me belt...

911

This magic trick has been whipped to death. The first thing I thought was this is bullshit. lol...The day after I was in OKC and i watched a awacs fly around the city...and I thought how sad this whole thing is.

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John,

A while back you mentioned story of J P Lovette, a gruesome murder by ET.
I thought they were here to make adjustments and so on...what is the reason for killing humans?
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John,

A while back you mentioned story of J P Lovette, a gruesome murder by ET.
I thought they were here to make adjustments and so on...what is the reason for killing humans?
 Quoting: gatherer


Good question as human mutilation is one creepy area that I have not really read about all that much.

I believe this took place in on about 1956 or so.

I believe that he was a Sargent.

I am very curious concerning this as well John.
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John,

A while back you mentioned story of J P Lovette, a gruesome murder by ET.
I thought they were here to make adjustments and so on...what is the reason for killing humans?
 Quoting: gatherer




This was not done by the grays. This was done by another group of ET's. And by the way there are billions times a billion different types of ET's.

Mistakes, or rather, intentionally gruesome incidnets like this one happenn on occasion.

The FBI keeps a tight lockdown on any information concerning human mutilations.

This incident is only known because it was in the Grudge 13 report that Bill English read over in England while with the U.S. Army.

The paragraph can be found by googleing Grudge 13 report by me.
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Hey JOHN, this might be the new planet that was born recently, the guy in the video says that its half the size of merury, was the new one that small?


Maybe they start out small and get bigger ? ,like we do.The video talks about Nasa possibly photoshoping the image to hide it as it orbits the sun.


[link to www.youtube.com]

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Hi John,

Thanks for answering my other questions. I really appreciate it.

A couple more if I could.....

1. you mentioned in one of your radio interviews that when we die we are able to meet and see people that have passed on. Does this only apply to souls that don't have to come back to earth? The ones that have matured?

2. More about the souls of amimals, especially dogs and cats. You mentioned they were different souls....could you expand on that?

3. Who does sleeper have to answer to if he mentions something he's not supposed to?? Is this his last trip too?

4. So the greys keep track of us and are employed or run by another group of beings? Are these soul creators another race of alien? Why would the soul creators care so much about the ant farm (earth)?

5. Who are the people that have top secret clearence way above the POTUS? Who keeps them from going public.

6. Who hears our prayers?

Thanks in advance John! Ordering my hat soon!
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Hi John,

Thanks for answering my other questions. I really appreciate it.

A couple more if I could.....

1. you mentioned in one of your radio interviews that when we die we are able to meet and see people that have passed on. Does this only apply to souls that don't have to come back to earth? The ones that have matured?
 Quoting: SPECTREMAN



You get to see family and friends who have passed on and are not otherwise occupied meaning if they are not busy elsewhere. The 'busy elsewhere' is unclear to me also. And if they are not busy elsewhere you get to see them whether or not you or they have matured.


2. More about the souls of animals, especially dogs and cats. You mentioned they were different souls....could you expand on that?
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Sorry I don't have any more information than what I told you. A human soul can be put into an animal for a specific learning lesson. Sorry, I don't know exactly what a 'learning lesson' might be.


3. Who does sleeper have to answer to if he mentions something he's not supposed to?? Is this his last trip too?
 Quoting: SPECTREMAN



Those who sent him on this mission will take the appropriate action if he mentions something he is not supposed to. Another measure they can take is to make them physically incapable of uttering the words of the 'something'.

He has said that he will resume his life elsewhere, maybe Uranus, when he has completed this mission.


4. So the grays keep track of us and are employed or run by another group of beings? Are these soul creators another race of alien? Why would the soul creators care so much about the ant farm (earth)?
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Yes, the grays are highly intelligent cybernetic organisms who work for many different groups of ET's. They are workers who perform tedious and mundane tasks like abductions. We are all aliens and yes the creators of the grays are just another race of aliens.

The soul creators care about the 'ant' farm because they are the ones that created the earth and the souls who live there. Their main concern is the maturing or development of the soul.

The analogy of an 'ant' farm is a metaphor I used to use which is no longer appropriate. We are much more than an 'ant farm'.


5. Who are the people that have top secret clearance way above the POTUS? Who keeps them from going public.
 Quoting: SPECTREMAN



They are people within the military industrial complex who have become involved with projects the President of the United States is not authorized to know about. Getting vetted for a specific clearance can take many years and is on a need-to-know basis.

The President, in the opinion of those who issue those clearances, does not have a need to know about many projects.

And the reason for this is the President may have goals which are not consistent with those of the military industrial complex.

They are kept from going public by threats of death to their family, specifically their children.



6. Who hears our prayers?
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Your guides hear everything you think or say or ask for. They provide everything you ask for but sometimes they muddle the interpretation of your request.


Thanks in advance John! Ordering my hat soon!
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OK, all the best.
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John , What do souls look like?
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A soul cannot be seen. It cannot be detected with electronic means. It has no weight. It is not made of matter. But it is more valuable than any other single item on the face of this earth.

Few understand the significance of a soul while here on earth. A soul is more powerful than a thousand supermen, more fantastic than all the wonders of the world and even the galaxies.

It's big, very big. It's so amazing that they can squeeze all that into a clueless human brain and body.
It is firmly attached/anchored to the body by the circulating blood.

It can be removed from the body and placed in another body by those authorized to do so. It can also be placed in animals or inanimate objects such as a pencil or a telephone pole. Or a rock or a table. It can be placed anywhere it needs to be placed for whatever lesson is to be learned.

Don't ask me what you learn by being a pencil.

Souls are forged in the fiery hearths of the universe and are tempered by lifetimes of experiences on places like Earth. Only when they reach an automatic alignment to integrity, without envy, hate or greed are they released from the nurseries of evolution.

Some have difficulty. Some never make it and wallow around in the depths of what we call 'evil'.

If a person is still asking "Why do I have to have integrity; without envy, hate or greed?", he/she/it are still in the early stages of development. The truth is they do not have to. The decision is their choice.

That is the 'yin-yang' of the universe.

Ghosts are human souls stuck for a short time on earth.
Many of those who have died cannot communicate with those on this side because of their soul level. Soul level has much to do with it. Those on this side need some soul level to receive and understand such messages from the other side.

A container (also known as a 'meat sacks') is constructed to fit the soul that will be placed into it. Containers are special because they allow us to facilitate the specific learning we will do while here in 3D land.

Many, many souls don't get the privileges that most who do get them take for granted. If we could see some of the alternative containers we would instantly understand just how special we are....regardless of the condition of our containers we find ourselves in at the moment.

Human souls can't handle enlightenment, it would make them pompous foolish slobs. Enlightenment is a very strange creature to describe and would be offensive to our 3D minds, we simply don't get what it really is.

One of the most amazing things a soul can do is go through a black hole intact.
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Your take on the human soul is very on in my opinion John.

Keep sharing please as I find your take on life very uplifting and encouraging.
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John , What do souls look like?
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A soul cannot be seen. It cannot be detected with electronic means. It has no weight. It is not made of matter. But it is more valuable than any other single item on the face of this earth.

Few understand the significance of a soul while here on earth. A soul is more powerful than a thousand supermen, more fantastic than all the wonders of the world and even the galaxies.

It's big, very big. It's so amazing that they can squeeze all that into a clueless human brain and body.
It is firmly attached/anchored to the body by the circulating blood.

It can be removed from the body and placed in another body by those authorized to do so. It can also be placed in animals or inanimate objects such as a pencil or a telephone pole. Or a rock or a table. It can be placed anywhere it needs to be placed for whatever lesson is to be learned.

Don't ask me what you learn by being a pencil.

Souls are forged in the fiery hearths of the universe and are tempered by lifetimes of experiences on places like Earth. Only when they reach an automatic alignment to integrity, without envy, hate or greed are they released from the nurseries of evolution.

Some have difficulty. Some never make it and wallow around in the depths of what we call 'evil'.

If a person is still asking "Why do I have to have integrity; without envy, hate or greed?", he/she/it are still in the early stages of development. The truth is they do not have to. The decision is their choice.

That is the 'yin-yang' of the universe.

Ghosts are human souls stuck for a short time on earth.
Many of those who have died cannot communicate with those on this side because of their soul level. Soul level has much to do with it. Those on this side need some soul level to receive and understand such messages from the other side.

A container (also known as a 'meat sacks') is constructed to fit the soul that will be placed into it. Containers are special because they allow us to facilitate the specific learning we will do while here in 3D land.

Many, many souls don't get the privileges that most who do get them take for granted. If we could see some of the alternative containers we would instantly understand just how special we are....regardless of the condition of our containers we find ourselves in at the moment.

Human souls can't handle enlightenment, it would make them pompous foolish slobs. Enlightenment is a very strange creature to describe and would be offensive to our 3D minds, we simply don't get what it really is.

One of the most amazing things a soul can do is go through a black hole intact.
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WOW MAN! that's heavy
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Hi John, Our Thanksgiving is over, and I'm back with more inquiries.
Hope you had a wonderful weekend with yours.

This popped into my head, I'm thinking Lou said it but never elaborated, as is the nature of the beast...could you share what you know on soul names?
Apparently, each soul has a forever kind of name.
I don't know why this should matter to me, I just found that it resonated with me.
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Why do the Russians and the US want to defeat the Grays?

If they want to defeat them why do the Grays allow them to become the two most powerful countries on Earth?





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