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I am the real John Lear...ask me a question

 
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John have you seen the UFO vid. from Turkey`? [link to www.youtube.com]
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Hi John Lear!!





who is Sleeper?
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Sleeper is our UFO nut!!!

He has been into outer space.

He has been into inner space also.

He tells us a lot of stuff that only a few of us (me) can believe.
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I believe in Sleeper!!
When you die you will find out that John Lear was right .....Hoss
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John,

I just wondering what your response is to this video. Bill Cooper names you as a CIA agent.
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What about the Blackbird?

Ever flown it?
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No. I got to sit in the YF-12A at Edwards Air Force Base. I was with a former Lockheed Test Pilot. I was never in the air force.


Or do u know the guy...like his name... that flew Bush to France and back?
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Gunther Russbacher flew it (SR-71) back from French Air Force Base Reims. Russbacher was flown to Paris (he sat in the back) of the BAC-111 that flew him over.

There were 2 airplanes used going over. Heinrich Rupp flew the Gulfsteam and I don't remember who flew the B-737.

There is a video tape (always running when somebody occupies the back seat (which is most always) which shows George Bush (the father not the kid) on the trip back from Reims. I wonder were that tape is now! Probably buried under all those mainframes a Ft. Meade.



The Bush that the Japanese saw as the main course, yea him.

Really....

?

lol
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Actually after the first bite.
Live your life with integrity; and without envy hate or greed. Express your love to your family every day.

Thats all you have to do in this life other than doing things you like to do.
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John,

I just wondering what your response is to this video. Bill Cooper names you as a CIA agent.
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I believe Bill to be credible
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Will space be fully commercialized? Tourists on the moon, an orbiter trip for 10K...if Aliens are actually out there, it seems like there would not be this mad rush towards space tourism.
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If they're Ferengi, then they would be conducting the tours!!
It's all about the 'vibe'
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07/29/2012 10:00 PM
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Hi John,

How do pets fit into the whole "life" thing?
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John,

I just wondering what your response is to this video. Bill Cooper names you as a CIA agent.
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This is about when we all realised Bill was telling lies about his navy career and document sightings.

He started hitting the bottle, changing his testimony and engaged in outrageous plagiarism of other people's work.

This is about the time he started leaving drunken death threats on the answering machines of conference organisers and magazine publishers. (Don Ecker for one)

Bill realised the jig was up and his lies were catching up to him. His only recourse was to use the few remaining conference gigs and radio spots to accuse ANYONE he didn't like of being a CIA agent.

After selling us his personal testimony on UFOs, he did a 180 and claimed UFOs didn't exist and were nothing more than part of a huge govt conspiracy towards a NWO. In other words, his conspiracy UFO followers had realised his lies, and so he turned to the next most gullible 'market' - ie conspiracy aware christians.

He is a hero to many because he put the Protocols of Zion into his book, but to those who had long-time dealings with him, it became evident he was a fraud from the beginning.

I'm sure he was nice to stars like John here, who he needed to bolster his own credibility. But to others he was nothing more than a liar and a fraud, who beat up his wife when he got drunk. He was never suppressed by the govt - he was dismissed by his own crowd for making death threats from the stage, from being drunk on stage and on radio, and for lying to publishers about his past.

The ends do NOT justify the means, and this guy was NO hero!
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John,

I just wondering what your response is to this video. Bill Cooper names you as a CIA agent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13985975



This is about when we all realised Bill was telling lies about his navy career and document sightings.

He started hitting the bottle, changing his testimony and engaged in outrageous plagiarism of other people's work.

This is about the time he started leaving drunken death threats on the answering machines of conference organisers and magazine publishers. (Don Ecker for one)

Bill realised the jig was up and his lies were catching up to him. His only recourse was to use the few remaining conference gigs and radio spots to accuse ANYONE he didn't like of being a CIA agent.

After selling us his personal testimony on UFOs, he did a 180 and claimed UFOs didn't exist and were nothing more than part of a huge govt conspiracy towards a NWO. In other words, his conspiracy UFO followers had realised his lies, and so he turned to the next most gullible 'market' - ie conspiracy aware christians.

He is a hero to many because he put the Protocols of Zion into his book, but to those who had long-time dealings with him, it became evident he was a fraud from the beginning.

I'm sure he was nice to stars like John here, who he needed to bolster his own credibility. But to others he was nothing more than a liar and a fraud, who beat up his wife when he got drunk. He was never suppressed by the govt - he was dismissed by his own crowd for making death threats from the stage, from being drunk on stage and on radio, and for lying to publishers about his past.

The ends do NOT justify the means, and this guy was NO hero!
 Quoting: InCogNeatOh


Hogwash.
William Cooper was a brilliant researcher and his radio program Hour Of The Time delved into some very serious and deep subjects. And he cites John Lear in regards to an alternative version of the Zapruder film at 39:30 in the video-not aliens.

As far as Cooper's beliefs toward the alien agenda, so what if he had changed his mind? That is the whole point of research, to align your perceptions with reality. And what is more interesting to point out, is that Cooper never started receiving serious government opposition until he started mention Blue Beam and the NWO agenda.

Obviously you are still threatened by Cooper and I find that ridiculous and hilarious at the same time.
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Well, I had extensive personal and professional business dealings with Cooper. You obviously didn't.

Also, just pick up the phone and call Don Ecker, where you can hear Cooper's recorded death threats to this day.

Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. I don't deny Cooper was a good orator, I am telling you he stole his 'research' from others (ask Lars for one example), that he was a liar about his past, and that he changed his story when people got too close to the truth about his past.

Your hero was a fraud and a liar, sorry to pop your delusion!
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Well, I had extensive personal and professional business dealings with Cooper. You obviously didn't.

Also, just pick up the phone and call Don Ecker, where you can hear Cooper's recorded death threats to this day.

Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. I don't deny Cooper was a good orator, I am telling you he stole his 'research' from others (ask Lars for one example), that he was a liar about his past, and that he changed his story when people got too close to the truth about his past.

Your hero was a fraud and a liar, sorry to pop your delusion!
 Quoting: InCogNeatOh


First of all, I never said Cooper was my hero, I merely said he was a damned good researcher. I not care what personal business dealings you had with the man, so obviously your opinion of him is highly biased. Also Don Ecker is still pissed about Bill Cooper for whatever reason. The truth is Bill Cooper is still getting under many people's skin. I respect the knowledge the man had to share and I don't care about his drinking problems, family life, etc.

That being said, I also highly respect John Lear as a researcher. I merely wondered what he thought about the video where Cooper mentions him. John has already mentioned his disdain toward Cooper, and so be it, that was their person relationship.
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Well, I had extensive personal and professional business dealings with Cooper. You obviously didn't.

Also, just pick up the phone and call Don Ecker, where you can hear Cooper's recorded death threats to this day.

Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. I don't deny Cooper was a good orator, I am telling you he stole his 'research' from others (ask Lars for one example), that he was a liar about his past, and that he changed his story when people got too close to the truth about his past.

Your hero was a fraud and a liar, sorry to pop your delusion!
 Quoting: InCogNeatOh


First of all, I never said Cooper was my hero, I merely said he was a damned good researcher. I not care what personal business dealings you had with the man, so obviously your opinion of him is highly biased. Also Don Ecker is still pissed about Bill Cooper for whatever reason. The truth is Bill Cooper is still getting under many people's skin. I respect the knowledge the man had to share and I don't care about his drinking problems, family life, etc.

That being said, I also highly respect John Lear as a researcher. I merely wondered what he thought about the video where Cooper mentions him. John has already mentioned his disdain toward Cooper, and so be it, that was their person relationship.
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Most people who claim to be researchers change things so that they can have an angle to a following. A lot of it is ego. Very few people don't do this. Sitchen was another one who did...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
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Well, I had extensive personal and professional business dealings with Cooper. You obviously didn't.

Also, just pick up the phone and call Don Ecker, where you can hear Cooper's recorded death threats to this day.

Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. I don't deny Cooper was a good orator, I am telling you he stole his 'research' from others (ask Lars for one example), that he was a liar about his past, and that he changed his story when people got too close to the truth about his past.

Your hero was a fraud and a liar, sorry to pop your delusion!
 Quoting: InCogNeatOh


First of all, I never said Cooper was my hero, I merely said he was a damned good researcher. I not care what personal business dealings you had with the man, so obviously your opinion of him is highly biased. Also Don Ecker is still pissed about Bill Cooper for whatever reason. The truth is Bill Cooper is still getting under many people's skin. I respect the knowledge the man had to share and I don't care about his drinking problems, family life, etc.

That being said, I also highly respect John Lear as a researcher. I merely wondered what he thought about the video where Cooper mentions him. John has already mentioned his disdain toward Cooper, and so be it, that was their person relationship.
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Cooper was NOT a damned good researcher. He was merely reading and claiming credit for the work of those who were REALLY GOOD researchers at the time. He was a parrot, not an originator of material. But unless you were around and active back then (before most were on the net) you wouldn't have this perspective.

Cooper successfully used Lear and Lazar to propel himself into the limelight, and from that point on his story changed everytime he read a new book or article about conspiracies.

Dean Stonier was a hero of that time, or Mae Brussells or a dozen other REAL heros who died at their post. John Lear is a hero, as is Bob Lazar. Cooper was a lying parasite who gave no credit to the work of others - he claimed it as his own.

Only conspiracy noobs and those with no inclination to research facts believe Cooper to be a hero.
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InCogNeatOh, your spelling is excellent.
It's all about the 'vibe'
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InCogNeatOh, your spelling is excellent.
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Why thank you.

I failed English in my HSC at Bellingen High School in 1978.
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Hi John,

I just posted this thread, what do you think, are they the same?

Thread: Is this proof of UFO's or am I just losing it?


Cheers!

Deejay
Know Thyself.
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It's taken me quite some time to catch up here. Well worth it, even though I've had to either use a friends computer or use my cellphone, since glp continues to ban my IP address for whatever reason it was they did.

I'm glad you're doing well Mr.Lear, and was happy to read all your recent posts.
2 questions arise after reading.
1, how far up in the navy chain do you have to be before things get juicy? I have family in the navy, training officers and chiefs. I try to get what I can but you know how how it is. Just curious if they'd be the wiser to spawar and the like.

2- any new thoughts on time travel? New developments maye?

Always a pleasure Mr.Lear
Adam
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And I'm not magically unbanned after a month or two of not being able to access the site from one of my IP addresses.

Hmmf.

Glad to be back.
My 2 questions are still the same, if you're up for answering them Mr. Lear.

Hope all is well with everyone, hello and hello! :)

- adamjosh.com banana2
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It's taken me quite some time to catch up here. Well worth it, even though I've had to either use a friends computer or use my cellphone, since glp continues to ban my IP address for whatever reason it was they did.

I'm glad you're doing well Mr.Lear, and was happy to read all your recent posts.
2 questions arise after reading.
1, how far up in the navy chain do you have to be before things get juicy? I have family in the navy, training officers and chiefs. I try to get what I can but you know how how it is. Just curious if they'd be the wiser to spawar and the like.

2- any new thoughts on time travel? New developments maye?

Always a pleasure Mr.Lear
Adam
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 Quoting: Adam Josh 1068728


And I'm not magically unbanned after a month or two of not being able to access the site from one of my IP addresses.

Hmmf.

Glad to be back.
My 2 questions are still the same, if you're up for answering them Mr. Lear.

Hope all is well with everyone, hello and hello! :)

- adamjosh.com banana2
 Quoting: Adam Josh 1583231


Typo, woops.
I AM now magically unbanned.

Okay, I'll stop pressing my luck now.

- adamjosh.com banana2
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Really interesting stuff here - I have a lot of respect for people that deal with trolls as calmly as John does. I think the overall big picture makes sense and is something people should incorporate into their lives. If i take anything out of John's posts it's basically, don't be a shitty person - which is what my parents taught me.

John - i'm interested in hearing your opinion on souls and ET's. Do you ETs have souls like we do? Does that mean that in your opinion, as an example, my soul could be the soul of some species of ET that misbehaved and the soul was sent to this earth for "re-education"? Are ET bodies other worldly equivalents of the human body but more permanent? Do souls that have graduated get the choice to inhabit a body of their choosing?

Thanks john - really interesting stuff
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Should we go to the light when we die? If not then where should we go?
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hey JL!!! i filmed you in TJ!!! 39 seconds into the vid!! what were you doing down there??? rofl

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Really interesting stuff here - I have a lot of respect for people that deal with trolls as calmly as John does. I think the overall big picture makes sense and is something people should incorporate into their lives. If i take anything out of John's posts it's basically, don't be a shitty person - which is what my parents taught me.

John - i'm interested in hearing your opinion on souls and ET's. Do you ETs have souls like we do? Does that mean that in your opinion, as an example, my soul could be the soul of some species of ET that misbehaved and the soul was sent to this earth for "re-education"? Are ET bodies other worldly equivalents of the human body but more permanent? Do souls that have graduated get the choice to inhabit a body of their choosing?

Thanks john - really interesting stuff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16115366


Aside from pointing out the irony of casually calling people trolls while being "anonymous", I'd like to clear any misunderstandings about my last 2 posts.
1) From now on I will PREVIEW my posts before I post them.
2) If I could delete both right now I would.
3) The reason for my continually being banned (as I understand it, and as John explained to me earlier { [link to www.adamjosh.com] }) is because of my initials. If I were to write them here, GLP would automatically include something about someone being a shill. I cannot post under my real name AND not use my real name at the same time, so for that I apologize.

I just want it to be clear that unlike many others I am not anonymous, nor am I hiding in a corner with my opinions.

I have no intention on "trolling" this forum, and if it seems that way to this point I apologize. I am ridiculously interested in John Lear's work. I have written about him on my website, written and dedicated songs for and to him, and in general, I am a fan of his research and views on life.

If that is coming accross in any other way than genuine I apologize. If someone wants to accuse me of whatever they want to accuse me of for making it clear who I am, I cannot stop you from throwing your accusations around.

I simply want John to know who is talking to him, as he is granting us that same common courtesy.

I have more respect for my elders and for John specifically than many people here in this forum. I have read through all 200 pages, and will continue to as long as JL continues to post here.

By the way, what happened to therealjohnlear.com?
Also, how's the daughters book about Mr. Lear coming along?



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well

if souls are neither matter or energy

but something completely different

how doe s one catch them

and are there scientists amongst our space brethren

who study souls as a specialty

who perhaps have built a soul collider

and are busy smashing souls together to

learn their constituent parts

after they catch them

or are they just prima materia


bits of the whole

set free by the creator to wander

the cosmos

and find their way home

eventually

do souls have heft weight balance

color

do they have personality

or are they all alike

clones of clones of clones

and the final question

was the universe created for our souls

so our souls would have something to do

or our souls for the universe

to make it more interesting


i don't know

and i strongly suspect i never will

but


soul catchers on the moon

it just got me thinkin

just got me musin


peace
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Aside from pointing out the irony of casually calling people trolls while being "anonymous", I'd like to clear any misunderstandings about my last 2 posts.
1) From now on I will PREVIEW my posts before I post them.
2) If I could delete both right now I would.
3) The reason for my continually being banned (as I understand it, and as John explained to me earlier { [link to www.adamjosh.com] }) is because of my initials. If I were to write them here, GLP would automatically include something about someone being a shill. I cannot post under my real name AND not use my real name at the same time, so for that I apologize.

I just want it to be clear that unlike many others I am not anonymous, nor am I hiding in a corner with my opinions.

I have no intention on "trolling" this forum, and if it seems that way to this point I apologize. I am ridiculously interested in John Lear's work. I have written about him on my website, written and dedicated songs for and to him, and in general, I am a fan of his research and views on life.

If that is coming accross in any other way than genuine I apologize. If someone wants to accuse me of whatever they want to accuse me of for making it clear who I am, I cannot stop you from throwing your accusations around.

I simply want John to know who is talking to him, as he is granting us that same common courtesy.

I have more respect for my elders and for John specifically than many people here in this forum. I have read through all 200 pages, and will continue to as long as JL continues to post here.

By the way, what happened to therealjohnlear.com?
Also, how's the daughters book about Mr. Lear coming along?



- Adam
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I don't know why you think I was directing my troll comment at you - I honestly haven't read a single post of yours other than this one. I was directing more at those that straight up attack him and his ideas simply for the sake of inciting some kind of angry response that most people would fall into.
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[link to www.foxnews.com]

John I'd really REALLY like to hear your comments, thoughts on this. I'm sure you'd have interesting stuff to say...
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Hey John,

The sky is black but I see the sun ......

Intrigued

Az
MeEhHhH
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