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I am the real John Lear...ask me a question

 
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What really happened between you and the brass (Springer mainly I assume) at ATS? I read bits and pieces on ATS and thelivingmoon (i think), but never really understood the whole thing
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I supported the Bill Meier case and J. Ritzman used unnecessary fowl and dirty language talking to me.

I complained to Septic and he said I was lieing about Ritzman and banned me.

When he checked he found that Ritzman had deleted his comments and then lied about it.

Septic then told me to forget about it and start posting again.

I felt that Septic owed me an apology because he posted the comment that I was suspected of lieing. He said he didn't. I then went to OMF. I was never banned by ATS.
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I was in the middle of a shitfight with some people about the integrity or not, of a high profile UFO researcher - and Ritzman came in and took sides against me, then lied to Springer also about it. I was negotiating with the big brass there for Nexus to have its own corner, and for ATS to write some stuff in the magazine.

After seeing their lack of integrity and hypocrisy in full action firsthand - we parted company.

No forum is perfect, but they just suck over there.
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has Sleeper done anything significant in the past few years? I'm very interested in his material.
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Isn't it amazing that mr John Lear has answered so many questions, yet we are all still in the dark, without a single bit of evidence for what this guy claims?

If Americans are not brainwashed by the MSM, then they are brainwashed by loonies like mr Lear. In any case, they are brainwashed so badly that they cannot see they are being exploited wildly by the PTB.

I respect mr Lear as any other human being, but he is clearly nuts. Nothing of what he says is real. If the slightest bit of what he says was real, there would be some evidence. Unfortunately, there is zero evidence. Absolutely zero.

Not only there is zero evidence, but some of his claims are totally contradicted by real science.

For example, aliens living in the Sun: it just cannot happen.

Or that there have been many cvilizations on Earth: there is absolutely no evidence about this. If there were previous civilizations, there would be a lot of artifacts left behind. If our civilization was destroyed, then mankind's works would be visible for millions of years.

For me, the Biblical scenario is way more real than mr Lear's scenario. We are currently experiencing many of the things foretold by the prophets. )esus was the most important person in history, so important in fact, that we measure our existence from his birthhday (2011 years and counting). Who is this mr Lear that comes and says Jesus was an alien? is he a false prophet, just as predicted in the prophecies?
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Isn't it amazing that mr John Lear has answered so many questions, yet we are all still in the dark, without a single bit of evidence for what this guy claims?

If Americans are not brainwashed by the MSM, then they are brainwashed by loonies like mr Lear. In any case, they are brainwashed so badly that they cannot see they are being exploited wildly by the PTB.

I respect mr Lear as any other human being, but he is clearly nuts. Nothing of what he says is real. If the slightest bit of what he says was real, there would be some evidence. Unfortunately, there is zero evidence. Absolutely zero.

Not only there is zero evidence, but some of his claims are totally contradicted by real science.

For example, aliens living in the Sun: it just cannot happen.

Or that there have been many cvilizations on Earth: there is absolutely no evidence about this. If there were previous civilizations, there would be a lot of artifacts left behind. If our civilization was destroyed, then mankind's works would be visible for millions of years.

For me, the Biblical scenario is way more real than mr Lear's scenario. We are currently experiencing many of the things foretold by the prophets. )esus was the most important person in history, so important in fact, that we measure our existence from his birthhday (2011 years and counting). Who is this mr Lear that comes and says Jesus was an alien? is he a false prophet, just as predicted in the prophecies?
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If you read his first post you would have saved yourself some typing.
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If there were previous civilizations, there would be a lot of artifacts left behind. If our civilization was destroyed, then mankind's works would be visible for millions of years.
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Mankind's works would last for a few thousand years at most. Continents rise and fall, seas change position, ice ages come and ago. How can you say that "a lot of artifacts" would be left behind from a previous advanced civilisation?

Maybe they have been and we can't recognise them. Or they're buried beneath the oceans, or in Antarctica. Or maybe the Sphinx and other early monuments are actually much older than archaeologists currently believe.
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What is your take on the hollow-earth theory John?

and, anything on strange stuff at the polar regions?
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has Sleeper done anything significant in the past few years? I'm very interested in his material.
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I'm not sure what you mean by significant. He has given me the interesting information I have ever seen in mmy life.
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What is your take on the hollow-earth theory John?

And, anything on strange stuff at the polar regions?
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The earth is hollow but not like a tennis ball. Thee are unbelievably large spaces below the surface of the earth.

At least 1 or more different civilizations down there.

I believe that both poles are access's the the hollow places.
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Isn't it amazing that mr John Lear has answered so many questions, yet we are all still in the dark, without a single bit of evidence for what this guy claims?

If Americans are not brainwashed by the MSM, then they are brainwashed by loonies like mr Lear. In any case, they are brainwashed so badly that they cannot see they are being exploited wildly by the PTB.

I respect mr Lear as any other human being, but he is clearly nuts. Nothing of what he says is real. If the slightest bit of what he says was real, there would be some evidence. Unfortunately, there is zero evidence. Absolutely zero.

Not only there is zero evidence, but some of his claims are totally contradicted by real science.

For example, aliens living in the Sun: it just cannot happen.

Or that there have been many cvilizations on Earth: there is absolutely no evidence about this. If there were previous civilizations, there would be a lot of artifacts left behind. If our civilization was destroyed, then mankind's works would be visible for millions of years.

For me, the Biblical scenario is way more real than mr Lear's scenario. We are currently experiencing many of the things foretold by the prophets. )esus was the most important person in history, so important in fact, that we measure our existence from his birthhday (2011 years and counting). Who is this mr Lear that comes and says Jesus was an alien? is he a false prophet, just as predicted in the prophecies?
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If you read his first post you would have saved yourself some typing.
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Hillarious antikythera, all the best :)
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Yes I am the fake one.

The real John Lear died on June 24, 1961 in an airplane crash (Bucker 131 HB-URG) at Le Rosey, Rolle, Switzerland.

He had massive injuries that were not survivable my the time they got him to the hospital in Geneva about 45 minutes away.

He was survived by his father and mother, 2 sisters and a brother.

I am his walk-in. I came from a planet long, long ago and far, far away to take up where he left off.
 Quoting: johnlear


laugh roll Good to see you got your thread up.

A friendly et told me about some et's living within the sun. I had some incredulity about that, but easily accepted that they were doing maintenance on the sun. Go figure.

Got one for you. Here is one that I am in disagreement with A.Collier, and there are several. He, and many call a race of et's the Pleiadians. But, I asked an et and was told that while some traveled through that system, that they are ( if I heard and recalled this correctly ) Plejarans. I was told that they are okay with the 'wrong' name that humans call them.
Do you have any knowledge about this? Or, did I misinterpret?
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored


I have heard that also. But I don't know who any of the ET's are. Never met one. Never even saw one. The people who say the Pleaidians are 'these guys' and stuff like that know a lot more than I do.
 Quoting: johnlear



I'm guessing that most who have close contact are doing the best they can to interpret what they have seen and been told. There is a difference in dimension and frequency that fogs it up a bit. But, much core information is similar.
I have a feeling you have had experiences that your subconscience is hiding from you.
 Quoting: Texas Uncensored


Of course. But I can't remember the slightest little thing. Thats why I don't talk much about myself and the ET's.
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...

Ok, I have a question.

Do you believe ALL the bullshit you put out or has old age just made you that overly senile?
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Please read my statement on the first page. thanks. and all the best.
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hi john.

i red a article from nexusmagazine about britain in antartica in the second world war and they saw some perculiar things.
it's a good read with facts.
good chance you already red it and if you did, whats your take on this and how it connects with the present day?


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 Quoting: martin 1318873


Nexusmagazine has a good take on it there is also some interesting stuff over at thelivingmoon.com.

Hitler only died a few years ago here in the U.S. if that gives you a hint.
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btw ... SkepticOverlord > You. Any day of week in any dimension of existence
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Yes, I imagine he has his hands full over there. Well, all the best to you both.
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Oh yeah, I forgot, our sun is pregnant.


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I have a book that states that, and its not its first child.
 Quoting: antikythera


Correct, more like the 41st.
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your input would be awesome on this vid. thanks
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I have watched this many times. Don't have any idea what is going on.
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I have a question for you john, You talk about how we are supposed to learn to have dignity, and learn to live without envy and greed.

I'm curious I'm almost about 30 years old and in the last few years I have changed a lot in my views and beliefs.

I chased the all mighty buck when I was in my early twenties but then I moved out of california and I have lost the whole aspect of my thinking. I used to walk by people on the street and not say hello and keep my head down.

Now I literally make eye contact with complete strangers and say "hello, how are you today!" not because I want to be friendly but because I want people to reach out and make a change.

SO my question is this, because of my earlier views and actions is it too late for me to pass the "judgement" that you spoke of.

I just feel like my mind has massively opened up in the past few years and I'd hate to miss out on getting to know "the truth".
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Of course its not too late. We are all human.

sounds like you 'get it'.

Also, its Integrity....not dignity. Dignity is a human illusion. Like free will and freedom of choice.
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Especially the Ozark area around southern Missouri and north west Arkansas.
 Quoting: YoU~€iT¥ <aka> abe

Not to intrude, but are you referring to this?,

"The mysterious light of the Ozarks, near Hornet, Mo., has been
seen nightly for over a half century to the amazement of thousands."
 Quoting: antikythera


Your not intruding at all. I'm not familiar with that story but I wold say that's just one of a number of stories that I am referring to about this paticular region. It seems as though there is an underground base near by but my question is why. Is it a strategic location or something more? I believe it is not just a strategic location that attracts these crafts.
 Quoting: YoU~€iT¥ <aka> abe



Hi, it is because the epicenter of a tremendously massive earthquake takes place in your city. The ETs are trying to hold it off. Much devastation is coming soon. There is no timeframe I can provide, but it can/will happen. You must prepare for evacuation as the signs appear to you, since it appears you are observant. I am not trying to scare you, but provide a warning to save lives.

Do some searching now and you will discover that the Army corps of engineer are going to set off explosives on top of the reelfoot (Indian ancient name) fault line near you in a matter of days to protect a city of sinificance (to TPTB) to avoid flooding. It is connected to Egypt believe or not. There are very, very ancient artifacts buried there.

The San Madrid fault line is not to be played around with. It unleashed before in the early 1800s. It is starting to awaken again. Many lives were lost doing that time. It could be why all of the mysterious lights and orbs abound to get your attention.
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has Sleeper done anything significant in the past few years? I'm very interested in his material.
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I'm not sure what you mean by significant. He has given me the interesting information I have ever seen in mmy life.
 Quoting: johnlear


I've read most of his material. Is there anything new?
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btw ... SkepticOverlord > You. Any day of week in any dimension of existence
 Quoting: Syrius


Do you fap to him? hiding
 Quoting: antikythera


Fap?

Fat above pussy to him? Teach me that one first then we can talk about it, but we can talk about some solid facts here.

Guy pretending to be someone on the internet vs. .com CEO (of a popular conspiracy website)

It speaks for itself, unless you're a moron that is.
 Quoting: Syrius


fap=jack off
 Quoting: Stupidlikeafox™



I copied your signature quotes. They are the best. thanks.
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Hi mr. Lear. It's a real pleasure to have you here. I must say that I'm not all that familiar with you but I do know of you through my own research and have seen your project camalot interview and I have always gotten a good vibe from you. I have two questions and as far as what I k ow about you you may not have any answers but I'll try anyway. They are more about me I guess so really I'm must looking for some help. First question, Sirius seems to be very important to myself and I would imagine to all of us so is there anything you would like to share about Sirius? Question two, I am from St.Louis MO and have been finding out some very strange and interesting things about the state I live in. Especially the Ozark area around southern Missouri and north west Arkansas. I believe that the Gateway arch marks a stargate or some other important location . It may also be a weather tool of so e kind. Is there anything you could tell me about the Gateway Arch or anything you wlyld care to share ablut St.Louis, Windyville, MO, the Ozarks or Missouri. Thanks.
 Quoting: YoU~€iT¥ <aka> abe



Don't know much about the Gateway Arch except that a few planes have flown under it.

St. Louis is also a U.S. Navy nuclear sub base of some kind.

Thanks for the post.
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Hi John, Im a big fan of a lot of your interviews such as the ones you did with Art Bell years ago. I have been extensively doing a lot of research since 2004, running into tons of odds and ends slowly putting a massive amount of puzzle pieces together, and i could ask you questions all day long, i find you to be a legitimate humanist who i understand copletely on how you refer to your understanding and knowledge could be ever changing due to all of the "smoke and mirrors" that some of us crack and fan to try to get to truth, i find myself in denial at times, wanting to disprove myself on what i learn, but just as soon as i half-ass do it, i find two or three more nails that hammer out what i dont want to believe, but that i know to be true. For the truth as I have researched it is so massively overwhelming , that I cant see a way that we as a civilization can overthrow or retribute our past selves.

i was wondering if you feel the same at times, how do you cope with the truth, and how does it keep you from wanting to kick some serious proverbial ass, and if so, is there anymore out there like us who would like to take back what us humans lost a million or two million years ago during the great war,that is spoken of in the Norse creation story, "the war in the heavens"
 Quoting: THE BAT



You 'get it'. Now, sit back and relax and just live your life with integrity and without envy, hate or greed. And put your arms around your family.

Yes, I feel exactly the same. Awe inspiring huh? Everytime we think we have someting iron-clad solid, the floor drops out, the walls fall backwards and the roof disappears. And we are standing there looking around thinking WTF???

Have a great sunday.
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Is sleeper on glp?
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No, he has his own forum.
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who is John lear anyway?
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Hi Captain Lear.

You said that you believe most of what sleeper says.
What areas do you not believe?

Also-how are the Cliff notes to the Cliff notes coming?:)
I am bounceing around 6 different websites trying to make a mosaic in my mind of the past present future-also trying to find out who I pissed off to keep getting stuck here.

Thanks again
 Quoting: Dervish



Well for one thing he says the ET's did Japan whereas I think it was the U.S. Navy Spacecommand or whatever they call themselves these days.

Let me try and think about any other subjects we differ on. There are not many because he usually turns out to be correct.

The only thing I ever saw him back down on was my moon stuff. He originally said there was nothing up there. The other day he mentioned what super malls they had up there for shopping.

He still insists that Armstrong et all went to the moon.

I disaqree.

The Cliff notes are at the bottom of the list. Is there anything specific?

Stuck here? Man, this is a cool place if you know your way around. :)
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I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
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can i hog tie you & tickle you with that feather?
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john lear has me on iggy15 chuckle
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No, I am just trying to figure out how to respond.

I've never done anyting like that.

With a feather?
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dude - that tin hat must be on a tad tight. in your avatar you have a black feather on the front of the tin foil hat

see you in VC next week
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John,

I have to admit that some of the concepts and info you are sharing are shocking and stranger than fiction when taken individually. I don't know if I can swallow all of it but will admit I am entertained and curious. Did you always hear the beat of different drums? If not when did you wake up? Did you have to struggle with your new world?
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Mr Lear, thank you for participating on this forum. Why do you think freewill and freedom of choice is an illusion?

We have freewill to a certain extent within reason. For example, we can not nuke the planet without ETs getting involve. We have the choice in this plane of polarity to choose between opposites and even to not choose at all. Do you think that other inhabitants of the universes have no freewill? Theirs would be responsible free choice filled with a higher awareness of consequence and knowledge.
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Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
If there were previous civilizations, there would be a lot of artifacts left behind. If our civilization was destroyed, then mankind's works would be visible for millions of years.
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Mankind's works would last for a few thousand years at most. Continents rise and fall, seas change position, ice ages come and ago. How can you say that "a lot of artifacts" would be left behind from a previous advanced civilisation?

Maybe they have been and we can't recognise them. Or they're buried beneath the oceans, or in Antarctica. Or maybe the Sphinx and other early monuments are actually much older than archaeologists currently believe.
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The pyramids are much older than believed and the Egyptians did not build them.

The remnants of one of the largest previous civilizations are under the Sahara desert.

The absolute coolest stuff is hidden somwhere in the Smithsonian Institutions collection. Warehouses full of stuff from hundreds of thousands of years ago.

Very few people get to go in there and the POTUS is not one of them.

People think POTUS is told everything. Not true. In terms of security clearances he is not even half way up the list.

Many years ago (they may have changed it since then there were 38 levels above Top Secret. POTUS was only about 17 because intelligence agencies have a complete disdain foe elected and appointed individualss.

POTUS is a figurehead, an institution. Not a particular individual. He doesn't need to know very much simply because there is too much for him/her to learn. A quick briefing would take days and then the candidate (POTUS) would be in shock for about 30 days.

No, they just tell him a little bit of this and that to keep him happy and make him think he knows everything.

Bill C. wasn't buying it but there wasn't anything he could do about it. So he just kept his mouth shut.
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Thats all you have to do in this life other than doing things you like to do.
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Mr.Lear, appreciate your coming here and sharing so much with us. Thanks!
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can i hog tie you & tickle you with that feather?
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john lear has me on iggy15 chuckle
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No, I am just trying to figure out how to respond.

I've never done anyting like that.

With a feather?
 Quoting: johnlear


dude - that tin hat must be on a tad tight. in your avatar you have a black feather on the front of the tin foil hat

see you in VC next week
winkydink8
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damn. I knew I had seen it somewhere. I am definately losing it.
Live your life with integrity; and without envy hate or greed. Express your love to your family every day.

Thats all you have to do in this life other than doing things you like to do.

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