Godlike Productions - Discussion Forum
Users Online Now: 1,836 (Who's On?)Visitors Today: 715,076
Pageviews Today: 1,149,399Threads Today: 457Posts Today: 6,791
12:19 PM


Rate this Thread

Absolute BS Crap Reasonable Nice Amazing
 

I am the real John Lear...ask me a question

 
InCogNeatOh

User ID: 19986792
Australia
07/30/2012 06:45 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Well, I had extensive personal and professional business dealings with Cooper. You obviously didn't.

Also, just pick up the phone and call Don Ecker, where you can hear Cooper's recorded death threats to this day.

Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. I don't deny Cooper was a good orator, I am telling you he stole his 'research' from others (ask Lars for one example), that he was a liar about his past, and that he changed his story when people got too close to the truth about his past.

Your hero was a fraud and a liar, sorry to pop your delusion!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 13985975
United States
07/30/2012 07:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Well, I had extensive personal and professional business dealings with Cooper. You obviously didn't.

Also, just pick up the phone and call Don Ecker, where you can hear Cooper's recorded death threats to this day.

Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. I don't deny Cooper was a good orator, I am telling you he stole his 'research' from others (ask Lars for one example), that he was a liar about his past, and that he changed his story when people got too close to the truth about his past.

Your hero was a fraud and a liar, sorry to pop your delusion!
 Quoting: InCogNeatOh


First of all, I never said Cooper was my hero, I merely said he was a damned good researcher. I not care what personal business dealings you had with the man, so obviously your opinion of him is highly biased. Also Don Ecker is still pissed about Bill Cooper for whatever reason. The truth is Bill Cooper is still getting under many people's skin. I respect the knowledge the man had to share and I don't care about his drinking problems, family life, etc.

That being said, I also highly respect John Lear as a researcher. I merely wondered what he thought about the video where Cooper mentions him. John has already mentioned his disdain toward Cooper, and so be it, that was their person relationship.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1113319
United States
07/30/2012 07:56 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^




acegotflows

User ID: 19532652
United States
07/30/2012 08:18 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Well, I had extensive personal and professional business dealings with Cooper. You obviously didn't.

Also, just pick up the phone and call Don Ecker, where you can hear Cooper's recorded death threats to this day.

Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. I don't deny Cooper was a good orator, I am telling you he stole his 'research' from others (ask Lars for one example), that he was a liar about his past, and that he changed his story when people got too close to the truth about his past.

Your hero was a fraud and a liar, sorry to pop your delusion!
 Quoting: InCogNeatOh


First of all, I never said Cooper was my hero, I merely said he was a damned good researcher. I not care what personal business dealings you had with the man, so obviously your opinion of him is highly biased. Also Don Ecker is still pissed about Bill Cooper for whatever reason. The truth is Bill Cooper is still getting under many people's skin. I respect the knowledge the man had to share and I don't care about his drinking problems, family life, etc.

That being said, I also highly respect John Lear as a researcher. I merely wondered what he thought about the video where Cooper mentions him. John has already mentioned his disdain toward Cooper, and so be it, that was their person relationship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13985975


Most people who claim to be researchers change things so that they can have an angle to a following. A lot of it is ego. Very few people don't do this. Sitchen was another one who did...
"a foundation built on lies is always bound to crumble and those who aren't humble shall tumble to the earth"
InCogNeatOh

User ID: 19986792
Australia
07/30/2012 08:21 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Well, I had extensive personal and professional business dealings with Cooper. You obviously didn't.

Also, just pick up the phone and call Don Ecker, where you can hear Cooper's recorded death threats to this day.

Seriously, you don't know what you are talking about. I don't deny Cooper was a good orator, I am telling you he stole his 'research' from others (ask Lars for one example), that he was a liar about his past, and that he changed his story when people got too close to the truth about his past.

Your hero was a fraud and a liar, sorry to pop your delusion!
 Quoting: InCogNeatOh


First of all, I never said Cooper was my hero, I merely said he was a damned good researcher. I not care what personal business dealings you had with the man, so obviously your opinion of him is highly biased. Also Don Ecker is still pissed about Bill Cooper for whatever reason. The truth is Bill Cooper is still getting under many people's skin. I respect the knowledge the man had to share and I don't care about his drinking problems, family life, etc.

That being said, I also highly respect John Lear as a researcher. I merely wondered what he thought about the video where Cooper mentions him. John has already mentioned his disdain toward Cooper, and so be it, that was their person relationship.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13985975



Cooper was NOT a damned good researcher. He was merely reading and claiming credit for the work of those who were REALLY GOOD researchers at the time. He was a parrot, not an originator of material. But unless you were around and active back then (before most were on the net) you wouldn't have this perspective.

Cooper successfully used Lear and Lazar to propel himself into the limelight, and from that point on his story changed everytime he read a new book or article about conspiracies.

Dean Stonier was a hero of that time, or Mae Brussells or a dozen other REAL heros who died at their post. John Lear is a hero, as is Bob Lazar. Cooper was a lying parasite who gave no credit to the work of others - he claimed it as his own.

Only conspiracy noobs and those with no inclination to research facts believe Cooper to be a hero.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1113319
United States
07/30/2012 08:25 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^​





 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1113319
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15456734
Australia
07/31/2012 05:20 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
InCogNeatOh, your spelling is excellent.
InCogNeatOh

User ID: 19986792
Australia
07/31/2012 06:14 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
InCogNeatOh, your spelling is excellent.
 Quoting: BadHairDay


Why thank you.

I failed English in my HSC at Bellingen High School in 1978.
Deejay

User ID: 20502514
South Africa
07/31/2012 10:33 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Hi John,

I just posted this thread, what do you think, are they the same?

Thread: Is this proof of UFO's or am I just losing it?


Cheers!

Deejay
Know Thyself.
Adam Josh
User ID: 1583231
Canada
08/01/2012 02:12 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
It's taken me quite some time to catch up here. Well worth it, even though I've had to either use a friends computer or use my cellphone, since glp continues to ban my IP address for whatever reason it was they did.

I'm glad you're doing well Mr.Lear, and was happy to read all your recent posts.
2 questions arise after reading.
1, how far up in the navy chain do you have to be before things get juicy? I have family in the navy, training officers and chiefs. I try to get what I can but you know how how it is. Just curious if they'd be the wiser to spawar and the like.

2- any new thoughts on time travel? New developments maye?

Always a pleasure Mr.Lear
Adam
- HTTP:www.adamjosh.com
 Quoting: Adam Josh 1068728


And I'm not magically unbanned after a month or two of not being able to access the site from one of my IP addresses.

Hmmf.

Glad to be back.
My 2 questions are still the same, if you're up for answering them Mr. Lear.

Hope all is well with everyone, hello and hello! :)

- adamjosh.com banana2
Adam Josh
User ID: 1583231
Canada
08/01/2012 02:14 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
It's taken me quite some time to catch up here. Well worth it, even though I've had to either use a friends computer or use my cellphone, since glp continues to ban my IP address for whatever reason it was they did.

I'm glad you're doing well Mr.Lear, and was happy to read all your recent posts.
2 questions arise after reading.
1, how far up in the navy chain do you have to be before things get juicy? I have family in the navy, training officers and chiefs. I try to get what I can but you know how how it is. Just curious if they'd be the wiser to spawar and the like.

2- any new thoughts on time travel? New developments maye?

Always a pleasure Mr.Lear
Adam
- HTTP:www.adamjosh.com
 Quoting: Adam Josh 1068728


And I'm not magically unbanned after a month or two of not being able to access the site from one of my IP addresses.

Hmmf.

Glad to be back.
My 2 questions are still the same, if you're up for answering them Mr. Lear.

Hope all is well with everyone, hello and hello! :)

- adamjosh.com banana2
 Quoting: Adam Josh 1583231


Typo, woops.
I AM now magically unbanned.

Okay, I'll stop pressing my luck now.

- adamjosh.com banana2
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 16115366
Canada
08/01/2012 03:47 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Really interesting stuff here - I have a lot of respect for people that deal with trolls as calmly as John does. I think the overall big picture makes sense and is something people should incorporate into their lives. If i take anything out of John's posts it's basically, don't be a shitty person - which is what my parents taught me.

John - i'm interested in hearing your opinion on souls and ET's. Do you ETs have souls like we do? Does that mean that in your opinion, as an example, my soul could be the soul of some species of ET that misbehaved and the soul was sent to this earth for "re-education"? Are ET bodies other worldly equivalents of the human body but more permanent? Do souls that have graduated get the choice to inhabit a body of their choosing?

Thanks john - really interesting stuff
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 402164
United States
08/01/2012 03:50 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Should we go to the light when we die? If not then where should we go?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1113319
United States
08/01/2012 03:52 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
hey JL!!! i filmed you in TJ!!! 39 seconds into the vid!! what were you doing down there??? rofl

Adam Josh
User ID: 1583231
Canada
08/01/2012 06:33 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Really interesting stuff here - I have a lot of respect for people that deal with trolls as calmly as John does. I think the overall big picture makes sense and is something people should incorporate into their lives. If i take anything out of John's posts it's basically, don't be a shitty person - which is what my parents taught me.

John - i'm interested in hearing your opinion on souls and ET's. Do you ETs have souls like we do? Does that mean that in your opinion, as an example, my soul could be the soul of some species of ET that misbehaved and the soul was sent to this earth for "re-education"? Are ET bodies other worldly equivalents of the human body but more permanent? Do souls that have graduated get the choice to inhabit a body of their choosing?

Thanks john - really interesting stuff
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16115366


Aside from pointing out the irony of casually calling people trolls while being "anonymous", I'd like to clear any misunderstandings about my last 2 posts.
1) From now on I will PREVIEW my posts before I post them.
2) If I could delete both right now I would.
3) The reason for my continually being banned (as I understand it, and as John explained to me earlier { [link to www.adamjosh.com] }) is because of my initials. If I were to write them here, GLP would automatically include something about someone being a shill. I cannot post under my real name AND not use my real name at the same time, so for that I apologize.

I just want it to be clear that unlike many others I am not anonymous, nor am I hiding in a corner with my opinions.

I have no intention on "trolling" this forum, and if it seems that way to this point I apologize. I am ridiculously interested in John Lear's work. I have written about him on my website, written and dedicated songs for and to him, and in general, I am a fan of his research and views on life.

If that is coming accross in any other way than genuine I apologize. If someone wants to accuse me of whatever they want to accuse me of for making it clear who I am, I cannot stop you from throwing your accusations around.

I simply want John to know who is talking to him, as he is granting us that same common courtesy.

I have more respect for my elders and for John specifically than many people here in this forum. I have read through all 200 pages, and will continue to as long as JL continues to post here.

By the way, what happened to therealjohnlear.com?
Also, how's the daughters book about Mr. Lear coming along?



- Adam
adamjosh.com cool2
mcubik
User ID: 2415188
United States
08/01/2012 07:23 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
well

if souls are neither matter or energy

but something completely different

how doe s one catch them

and are there scientists amongst our space brethren

who study souls as a specialty

who perhaps have built a soul collider

and are busy smashing souls together to

learn their constituent parts

after they catch them

or are they just prima materia


bits of the whole

set free by the creator to wander

the cosmos

and find their way home

eventually

do souls have heft weight balance

color

do they have personality

or are they all alike

clones of clones of clones

and the final question

was the universe created for our souls

so our souls would have something to do

or our souls for the universe

to make it more interesting


i don't know

and i strongly suspect i never will

but


soul catchers on the moon

it just got me thinkin

just got me musin


peace
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 21086955
Canada
08/01/2012 08:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Aside from pointing out the irony of casually calling people trolls while being "anonymous", I'd like to clear any misunderstandings about my last 2 posts.
1) From now on I will PREVIEW my posts before I post them.
2) If I could delete both right now I would.
3) The reason for my continually being banned (as I understand it, and as John explained to me earlier { [link to www.adamjosh.com] }) is because of my initials. If I were to write them here, GLP would automatically include something about someone being a shill. I cannot post under my real name AND not use my real name at the same time, so for that I apologize.

I just want it to be clear that unlike many others I am not anonymous, nor am I hiding in a corner with my opinions.

I have no intention on "trolling" this forum, and if it seems that way to this point I apologize. I am ridiculously interested in John Lear's work. I have written about him on my website, written and dedicated songs for and to him, and in general, I am a fan of his research and views on life.

If that is coming accross in any other way than genuine I apologize. If someone wants to accuse me of whatever they want to accuse me of for making it clear who I am, I cannot stop you from throwing your accusations around.

I simply want John to know who is talking to him, as he is granting us that same common courtesy.

I have more respect for my elders and for John specifically than many people here in this forum. I have read through all 200 pages, and will continue to as long as JL continues to post here.

By the way, what happened to therealjohnlear.com?
Also, how's the daughters book about Mr. Lear coming along?



- Adam
adamjosh.com cool2
 Quoting: Adam Josh 1583231


I don't know why you think I was directing my troll comment at you - I honestly haven't read a single post of yours other than this one. I was directing more at those that straight up attack him and his ideas simply for the sake of inciting some kind of angry response that most people would fall into.
Andy
User ID: 17799697
United States
08/01/2012 09:16 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
[link to www.foxnews.com]

John I'd really REALLY like to hear your comments, thoughts on this. I'm sure you'd have interesting stuff to say...
Birdmanwishing

User ID: 21010900
Canada
08/02/2012 02:00 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Hey John,

The sky is black but I see the sun ......

Intrigued

Az
MeEhHhH
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 4765238
United States
08/02/2012 06:48 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Bingo

38.315262,-117.313728
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15456734
Australia
08/02/2012 08:59 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Bingo

38.315262,-117.313728
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4765238


There are some dunes out near Tonopah also that could be what I think you are implying. 38°14'10.58"N , 117°18'16.73"W

(BTW, the 1994 sattelite flyover was a far more interesting photo....)

This is also an interesting set of co-ords. Play around with the 'time slider' function in g/earth and you will see how they cover up one of the dishes.

38° 8'30.40"N , 117°12'1.06"W

Just around the corner from your locale.

There's gold in them thar hills..... (and silver!)
JoinTheFun

User ID: 4858674
Netherlands
08/02/2012 10:52 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Whadya think, John? The Russians can now reach the ISS in 6 hours instead of 2 days :

[link to www.dw.de]
Dark rift

User ID: 21115756
United States
08/02/2012 11:19 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Hello John ,
I would like to start off by saying I have looked at you're credentials and I must say that I have complete and utter respect for you and hope to one day be as successful in my life as you have been in yours. I have been watching and listening to your interviews over the years but in one of the more recent interviews on coast to coast near the end of the interview John brought on Dr. Joe Resnick n he stated that the ones who live on the moon are nothing like us humans, but in other interviews u said u believe that they are people like us do you still stand by that or do you lean towards Dr. Resnicks theory that they are nothing like us? By the way I just made this account today I been meaning to get on here for a while now just never got to it.
Dark rift
vril

User ID: 8266676
United States
08/02/2012 03:11 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Whadya think, John? The Russians can now reach the ISS in 6 hours instead of 2 days :

[link to www.dw.de]
 Quoting: JoinTheFun


They must have only stopped off at 1 or 2 stations instead of the usual 24 before heading to ISS.
johnlear  (OP)

User ID: 13456274
United States
08/03/2012 03:00 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Whadya think, John? The Russians can now reach the ISS in 6 hours instead of 2 days :

[link to www.dw.de]
 Quoting: JoinTheFun




Because the Russians know nothing about orbirtal mechanicz neither to they have any union time off rules such as mandatory 24 off in 6.

They are a backward space nation and woe be any Russian astronaut who rides their vehicles.

Just wait of until Jim Oberg hears about thids.
Live your life with integrity; and without envy hate or greed. Express your love to your family every day.

Thats all you have to do in this life other than doing things you like to do.
JoinTheFun

User ID: 4858674
Netherlands
08/04/2012 07:09 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Whadya think, John? The Russians can now reach the ISS in 6 hours instead of 2 days :

[link to www.dw.de]
 Quoting: JoinTheFun




Because the Russians know nothing about orbirtal mechanicz neither to they have any union time off rules such as mandatory 24 off in 6.

They are a backward space nation and woe be any Russian astronaut who rides their vehicles.

Just wait of until Jim Oberg hears about thids.
 Quoting: johnlear


Ah, I see...applause
Anonimous Coward
User ID: 21248155
Australia
08/04/2012 07:23 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Hi John,

In regards to the over-speed flying of the B767's during 9/11, I wonder if you happen to know if those planes are equipped with 'stick pullers' ??

I used to fly the Lear 35/36 and these planes had indeed a 'stick puller' that would activate during an over-speed.

Just like the 'stick pusher', testing them was part of the pre-flight checks. I believe they would pull with a force of 5KG of pull force on the control column.

If the B767 had such an over speed protection system also, the reported speeds would be even more unbelievable.
Thanks for your insights.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 1468840
United States
08/04/2012 08:51 AM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Mr.Lear what do you know about the Black night satellite/ thanks.
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 13149641
Canada
08/05/2012 04:26 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
John, I love this thread, but one thing I can't understand is when you / sleeper says there is life on the moon. How can there be if it is riddled with craters, with no atmosphere, and we can see all of that with amateur telescopes?

We'd be able to see if there were trees, rivers, atmosphere, and people, wouldn't we?
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 15456734
Australia
08/05/2012 09:15 PM
Report Abusive Post
Report Copyright Violation
Re: I am the real John Lear...ask me a question
Johnski, how have you been?

I watched an amazing doco on Vladmir Ilyushin, stating he was actually the first man in to space! NOT Gagarin.

Went on show that the joint CIA/NAZA/USAF mobile tracking station at Tern Island, picked up the audio, heart beat and other radio frequencies.

Ilyushin crashed in China, and was missing for 11 months. The cover was that he was in a major car crash, and despite superior soviet medicine, he needed to be flown to China for advance accupuncture techniques, which saved his life.

Ilyushin is still alive, and is now a retired general.

On Gagarin, he says amazingly, after Gagarin threatened Breschnev with info going to western media, regarding the death of his close friend Comarev, who died in Soyuz 1, his seven year flight ban (as he was a nat' treasure) was lifted, pending some re-training on the newer MIGs.

On his first flight, the engine stopped, and he crashed, killing both he and co-pilot.

The investigating team was led by - Vladmir Ilyushin...

Recently, Vlad has stated that NO evidence of Gagarin was ever found at the crash site.

So a couple of questions if I may!

What say you about Ilyushin being actual number 1 into space?

And more importantly, if the US and China knew, and have data on it, why not say anything? It was a race after all.

Or was it? The recent Chinese, Indian and Japanese surveilance of the moon reeks of blackmail material to me.

Maybe this was the same deal back then?





GLP