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You are NOT allowed to commit suicide: Workers in Chinese iPad factories forced to sign pledges

 
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10/23/2012 02:42 PM
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Apple is responsible for this. It tells us a lot about what they think. Bad enough to send the jobs overseas, but they care nothing of the conditions people work in. Disgraceful. If I owned the company I would be horrified and do all to make changes or close it. I don't own a cell phone but if I do I'll remember this post.
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5 steps to bring back our jobs.


1 - Universal Healthcare - Rest of west has it - all the jobs are going places that either have this, or have 3rd world conditions in which healthcare involves death in the street.

2 - College for All - Most students in western countries get paid monthly to attend college.. Say what you want about this - it leaves USA now in the 15th and 17th and 23rd places on things like math, science, and even basic reading - at all... literacy is falling away here.

3 - Technical School for those who cannot make it into college - In most western countries, students are paid monthly to attend technical schools after high school, if they cannot or do not want, to attent 2-4 year university

4 - State pensions for all. SS guarnateed for all. Double the SS exemption. Companies do not want to pay these... Its obvious.

5 - Market protectionism, tarrifs, VATs, etc. - Just look at what China does to US companies trying to import into their country for some ideas - or look at what USA was doing in the time of and before Raygun... And what NAFTA in particular ended\changed.
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Well, folks, that's what the ultimate libtard looks like. ^^^^
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How about stop making devices of shit that are really worthless trash.
In 5 years all = trash.
They are making TRASH!
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5a
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10/23/2012 02:50 PM
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5 steps to bring back our jobs.


1 - Universal Healthcare - Rest of west has it - all the jobs are going places that either have this, or have 3rd world conditions in which healthcare involves death in the street.

2 - College for All - Most students in western countries get paid monthly to attend college.. Say what you want about this - it leaves USA now in the 15th and 17th and 23rd places on things like math, science, and even basic reading - at all... literacy is falling away here.

3 - Technical School for those who cannot make it into college - In most western countries, students are paid monthly to attend technical schools after high school, if they cannot or do not want, to attent 2-4 year university

4 - State pensions for all. SS guarnateed for all. Double the SS exemption. Companies do not want to pay these... Its obvious.

5 - Market protectionism, tarrifs, VATs, etc. - Just look at what China does to US companies trying to import into their country for some ideas - or look at what USA was doing in the time of and before Raygun... And what NAFTA in particular ended\changed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3940512


Can you list the countries that have these things

I am going
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10/23/2012 02:52 PM
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What's the penalty for breaking the pledge?
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in China if the have to shoot you, because you have broken the law, they send a bill to the family.


It could be if they commit suicide, their families would be fined or penalized in some way.
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10/23/2012 02:56 PM
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What's the penalty for breaking the pledge?
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in China if the have to shoot you, because you have broken the law, they send a bill to the family.


It could be if they commit suicide, their families would be fined or penalized in some way.
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They would maybe cancel the insurance or pension funds
yeahsure
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10/23/2012 03:00 PM
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This is what they will do to stop the suicides.

Ready?

They will make the families of the victims pay fines.
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that is what i was thinking. they will hurt their loved ones. truly satanic.
Anubis

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10/23/2012 03:01 PM
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why shouldnt they fine? spending $ training someone who is just going to jump off the roof is a waste of money isnt it?
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10/23/2012 03:02 PM
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5 steps to bring back our jobs.


1 - Universal Healthcare - Rest of west has it - all the jobs are going places that either have this, or have 3rd world conditions in which healthcare involves death in the street.

2 - College for All - Most students in western countries get paid monthly to attend college.. Say what you want about this - it leaves USA now in the 15th and 17th and 23rd places on things like math, science, and even basic reading - at all... literacy is falling away here.

3 - Technical School for those who cannot make it into college - In most western countries, students are paid monthly to attend technical schools after high school, if they cannot or do not want, to attent 2-4 year university

4 - State pensions for all. SS guarnateed for all. Double the SS exemption. Companies do not want to pay these... Its obvious.

5 - Market protectionism, tarrifs, VATs, etc. - Just look at what China does to US companies trying to import into their country for some ideas - or look at what USA was doing in the time of and before Raygun... And what NAFTA in particular ended\changed.
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Well, folks, that's what the ultimate libtard looks like. ^^^^
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


No

It is called ; WHEN a COUNTRY INVESTS in its PEOPLE

instead of the war machine

for other countries

and buys killing tools to kill those in other countries for

their masters
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10/23/2012 03:10 PM
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You take all this advanced production enhancing technology to make lazy Americans super productive. Then use Chinese super laborers ....watch out!
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10/23/2012 03:12 PM
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What will they do kill them if they go back on their word??
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10/23/2012 03:13 PM
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Geeezz Apple only has what 700 billion in cash? They need to give them workers a 4 hour work day and pay them 40 dollars an hour.
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10/23/2012 03:15 PM
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why shouldnt they fine? spending $ training someone who is just going to jump off the roof is a waste of money isnt it?
 Quoting: Anubis


Atleast they should pay the ticket to an active volcano
I allways vanted to go out like that
Pa resident1

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10/23/2012 03:17 PM
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How about stop making devices of shit that are really worthless trash.
In 5 years all = trash.
They are making TRASH!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1353076


That's actually very true.

I repaired electronics for 15+ years. Many of the old items are still going. New stuff? Well, you are lucky if they last. If they don't, you are even luckier if the manufacturer supports the product with parts. Most of the time they do not. The idea is to throw it in the trash.

BTW, have a Magnavox television I use in the basement. Built in 1983-early cable compatible model and it still works like a champ. Televitz in the the living room is a 32" Sony made in 2005 that a friend was going to throw away. Had a bad diode that costs 7 cents. It's worked fine since I replaced it.

My point is that for all of the lip service these companies pay to green this and green that-it's bullshit. If that were true they would build decent products that last and would offer some product support for repair/refurb.

I feel bad for the Chinese workers but this is kind of like the dope trade. There is a demand and that demand will be filled. If people stopped buying this crap, it might change things. But, as long as people will pitch a tent overnight to be lined up in the morning for Apple's latest gadget, there will be slave shops making them. Ditto for the game console companies, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1360794


Apple certainly makes their products not to last more than 6 years. Husband found a 2003 Apple iBook lap top computer at an auction. It works perfectly. However, you have trouble browsing the internet with it because YOU CAN'T UPGRADE IT. Best thing to do with it is make documents and watch dvd's. Why does apple do this? In the name of greed so you are forced to buy a new one. Jerks.
"When you don't keep your word, you lose credibility and trustworthy friends"
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10/23/2012 03:17 PM
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This is going to come back to us as some kind of Karma. Bad karma...
Se7en

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10/23/2012 03:18 PM
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Not to distract from the article or anything... Because it's seriously fucked up.

But this article was last updated like a year and a half ago. So, I wonder what's going on now...
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10/23/2012 03:20 PM
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The Chinese Factory bosses construct nets on all four sides of their factories to keep the slaves from jumping off, during work hours. Kinda tells you something, doesn't it?
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10/23/2012 03:22 PM
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This is going to come back to us as some kind of Karma. Bad karma...
 Quoting: APOLLO ILLUMINIST


Every time you use a ipod or iphone..
haha
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The Chinese Factory bosses construct nets on all four sides of their factories to keep the slaves from jumping off, during work hours. Kinda tells you something, doesn't it?
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Why don't these people get out of the big cities and go farm somewhere.

There has to be other things to do than to work for some satanic evil company making shit for shitty people...
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10/23/2012 03:24 PM
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The Chinese Factory bosses construct nets on all four sides of their factories to keep the slaves from jumping off, during work hours. Kinda tells you something, doesn't it?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22376064


Why don't these people get out of the big cities and go farm somewhere.

There has to be other things to do than to work for some satanic evil company making shit for shitty people...
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They are trying to keep people from reaching zion
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10/23/2012 03:25 PM
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How will you be punished?
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If you kill yourself you lose your job and are humiliated in front of your peers.
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10/23/2012 03:30 PM
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I love Spook Communism - Yoo clant commit Halakili yoo work Maline...we have deadline!

This is what all the Multinationals have invested in...COMMUNISM...IT works... ask Mitt and Barry and Dave and Bibi...Communism has come into it's own...All that bullshit with the Russians was just a way plunder the public purse...I Admire the global leaders...they know how to fuck little folk. What an awesome example!!!
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10/23/2012 03:33 PM
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I'm not trying to justify the pricks who made the workers sign the pledges but most likely these pledges mean that if you decide to jump off the building, you are not going to get some of those benefits the company promised you. Simply = you kill yourself and you will lose money.
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10/23/2012 03:48 PM
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I have an iPod Nano 5th gen I received for Christmas a few years ago. (I'm not an Apple user at all) I pull it out of the junk drawer every few months and just charge it. I like to think that charge gives a few poor Chinese souls a little after life for a few hours.

By the way, once charged, the battery is dead in 72hrs. It just sits there turned off. Apple=shitty products. My cheap LG Optimums smart phone can sit idle for more then 7 days and have some charge left. Then again I have few friends, so not many calls.

Last Edited by deanoZXT on 10/23/2012 03:53 PM
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What's the penalty for breaking the pledge?
 Quoting: BRIEF


they have to read your posts
Too Dark Park

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10/23/2012 03:54 PM
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And the ones who break their agreement and try to commit suicide will have to deal with the suicide nets they install outside the buildings.


This planet is fucking broken...

Last Edited by Too Dark Park on 10/23/2012 03:55 PM
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10/23/2012 04:03 PM
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I have an iPod Nano 5th gen I received for Christmas a few years ago. (I'm not an Apple user at all) I pull it out of the junk drawer every few months and just charge it. I like to think that charge gives a few poor Chinese souls a little after life for a few hours.

By the way, once charged, the battery is dead in 72hrs. It just sits there turned off. Apple=shitty products. My cheap LG Optimums smart phone can sit idle for more then 8 days and have some charge left.
 Quoting: deanoZXT


No it doesn't ...It makes your leaders the Corporates give you to vote for bad...very very bad...They pawn your fellow Americans jobs to now Nice Communism...Cheap Communism, and then offer the little Americans opportunities in the military...Then they stand up in front of you and look serious and speak with forthright exactitude about how they will do things for you if you just try harder and work harder, and when you do that extra effort is siphoned off into Corporate bonuses and explained away during the next contrived financial crisis...why the fuck even try...why work harder???? Chopping off pigs heads would be worth the effort...They're asking for it, so let's take up their Challenge.
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10/23/2012 04:04 PM
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How will you be punished?
 Quoting: AlcoholicRunner


If you kill yourself you lose your job and are humiliated in front of your peers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23943453


They'll piss on your corpse?
“We must keep the people busy with political antagonisms."
“We’ll therefore speed up the question of reform (of tarrifs within) the Democratic Party; and we’ll put the spotlight on the question of protection …(for) the Republican Party."

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10/23/2012 04:34 PM
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How will you be punished?
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If you kill yourself you lose your job and are humiliated in front of your peers.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23943453


They'll piss on your corpse?
 Quoting: jcab2002


Announcement over the PA system at Hu Jintao’s ‘Velly Cheap It Components Incorp (Pty) Ltd’

“uh-Dear Fellow Led Commie Workers…Your colleague, Chang, is dead. We have tied Chang to Urinal….Feel flee to pee on Chang and we take plicture for Family with new Apple I-pad camela. Have a rice day!”
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10/23/2012 04:37 PM
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Now get in line for your iPad mini!





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