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Obama Birth Certificate Text Contains Kerning -- Apparently Impossible

 
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Yep, it was computer generated.
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HOW CAN THIS BE REFUTED! IF THIS THREAD ISNT PINNED THEN THIS SITE IS OBVIOUS DISINFO SHILL TERRITORY! EXPLAIN IT TO ME PLEASE! HOW THE FUCK DID IT KERN BACK THEN?

GTFO SHILLS!!! WTF SHIT!
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Karl has nailed it again...
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The narrative you are supposed to be following is that a birth certificate exists which uses technology which had not been invented at the time, LOL.

They think we're stupid. Maybe we are.
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Why could the apparent kerning not be due to paper slipping between key strokes so as to create uneven spacing between characters?
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Why could the apparent kerning not be due to paper slipping between key strokes so as to create uneven spacing between characters?
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Perhaps, but the kerning for specific character is very consistent.
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Why could the apparent kerning not be due to paper slipping between key strokes so as to create uneven spacing between characters?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366162


Perhaps, but the kerning for specific character is very consistent.
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As in computer generated.
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Why could the apparent kerning not be due to paper slipping between key strokes so as to create uneven spacing between characters?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366162


Perhaps, but the kerning for specific character is very consistent.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1365196


As in computer generated.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366881


Correct.
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Back in the day you could only Kern on Type setting machines.

It was more of an art than anything. The individual metal letters had to be set up in the press and measured for precision so that when the document prints, everything looks uniform.

Now why would they print birth certificates on a printing press?? They dont.

Printing presses print shitloads of the same thing, newspapers, mail, books, advertising inserts, etc. Theyre designed to print millions of the same document to make money. What they dont do is print 1 thing and turn the machine off.

And im pretty sure if the clerk typed it on a type writer, they wouldnt even know the first step of using kerning on a birth certificate. You have to take the whole thing apart and precisely tweak the machine to do that, type writers are complex as fuck.
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I brought this up in another LFBC thread, but I'm not sure if it's been looked into yet.

Remember how, on old detective shows, typewriter "forensics" were often used to prove a case? I can remember various episodes in which the investigator pointed out that the suspect's typewriter must have been the same one the kidnappers used, because of the slightly elevated "E" or whatever in both typewritten samples.

Now look at the alleged LFBC. Under father's race, it says "African," and all of the letters line up evenly.

However, when it lists father's place of birth as "Kenya, East Africa," the "A" is out of alignment with the rest of the word.

Wouldn't it have to remain consistent throughout the document?
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siren2 BUSTED!
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How many birth certificates does this dude have? LOL!


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pennywise FRAUD ALERT !!!!lmao
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Yep, it was computer generated.
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Yep. Sure was.
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The only way is if the letter thumper thing was slightly bent.
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Why could the apparent kerning not be due to paper slipping between key strokes so as to create uneven spacing between characters?
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pretty shitty typewriter if the paper is moving...
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governmental equipment is generally bad, what stood out to me was the right date field. Angled but the numbers aren't repeat from other date field
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Re: Obama Birth Certificate Text Contains Kerning -- Apparently Impossible
This is a Hawaiian birth certificate from 1963:

[link to trueconservative101.com]

By the "kerning" logic, it has to be fake too...

TICKER GUY FAIL!
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This is a Hawaiian birth certificate from 1963:

[link to trueconservative101.com]

By the "kerning" logic, it has to be fake too...

TICKER GUY FAIL!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364654


Having spent ten years as a typewrite repair tech, all I can say is thank you. None of this is kerning. This sort of stuff was very very common on the IBM Model C and the IBM Model D, Underwoods, as well as many cheaper typewriters of the 1950s and early 1960s. It only really disappeared somewhat with the advent of the IBM Selectrics, and most of the later daisy wheeled 'electronic' typewriters. Even the daisy wheels could at times do a very similar things to letter positions.

It is no where uniform enough to be kerning.
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How many birth certificates does this dude have? LOL!


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 Quoting: Nada 225016


Why is that bottom line per grandma not on the birth certificate that is featured in the OP's link on Youtube?
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Another video showing the BC having "layers"
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How many birth certificates does this dude have? LOL!


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Read the bottom line per grandma!
 Quoting: Nada 225016


Why is that bottom line per grandma not on the birth certificate that is featured in the OP's link on Youtube?
 Quoting: Lotus Flower


That is probably the real mcCoy!!!!
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what is 'kerning'?

Last Edited by LA-LA-LA on 05/02/2011 04:48 PM
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How many birth certificates does this dude have? LOL!


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Read the bottom line per grandma!
 Quoting: Nada 225016


Why is that bottom line per grandma not on the birth certificate that is featured in the OP's link on Youtube?
 Quoting: Lotus Flower


That is probably the real mcCoy!!!!
 Quoting: Northforker


Yeah, that crossed my mind too.

Anybody else found the same one on any other webpage, just out of interest?
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Re: Obama Birth Certificate Text Contains Kerning -- Apparently Impossible
Believe me I'm a birther through and through (look at my post history), but before anything else I want the truth.

I found this copy of the Nordykes' BC. It seems from the naked eye that there's kerning in it (look at the T and the Y in Maternity), but I'd rather you guys take a look and maybe see if anyone knows of a better copy that I can plug into Photoshop myself.

[link to 2.bp.blogspot.com]
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Something I haven't seen anyone else mention yet. My husband and I both have hand-written official birth certificates from two different states in two different years. It used to be VERY difficult to fill in forms with a typewriter. The form itself would have to be designed for Pica or Elite SIZE. And the form would only be the right size for one size of typewriter, you would be out of luck if you had the other size. My first office jobs involved filling in forms...it was much easier to just fill in boxes by hand if it wasn't something for display...like maybe a diploma. I called fake as soon as I notice that. To fill in the boxes requires the right typewriter, adjusted to the right starting point on the first box...all adjusted to the perfect height so everything landed in a box...and the paper perfectly straight horizontally so nothing ran out of the box top or bottom...and you'd have to watch EVERY single keystroke to be sure you weren't going crooked.
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Something I haven't seen anyone else mention yet. My husband and I both have hand-written official birth certificates from two different states in two different years. It used to be VERY difficult to fill in forms with a typewriter. The form itself would have to be designed for Pica or Elite SIZE. And the form would only be the right size for one size of typewriter, you would be out of luck if you had the other size. My first office jobs involved filling in forms...it was much easier to just fill in boxes by hand if it wasn't something for display...like maybe a diploma. I called fake as soon as I notice that. To fill in the boxes requires the right typewriter, adjusted to the right starting point on the first box...all adjusted to the perfect height so everything landed in a box...and the paper perfectly straight horizontally so nothing ran out of the box top or bottom...and you'd have to watch EVERY single keystroke to be sure you weren't going crooked.
 Quoting: weegie


I don't know about any of that. I remember my first job was as a typist and in those days, it was a manual typewriter that was the normal thing in offices (during the 1970s). It would be as simple as can be to press in the end of the roller so that it would move smoothly, you then simply adjusted where you wanted the typing line to be, released the roller and voila, you were in the box.

I am very interested, however, in the line that is missing re the Grandmother's bit, that is featured in one version of the certificate, but missing in another......
Lotus

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I used to fill out forms with little boxes with my beloved IBM Correcting Selectric. Besides the ability to free the platen roller that machine gave you, there was a half-space adjustment -- I forget what it was designed for, but it was perfect for shifting the letter until you could get it exactly into the box.

One side effect was that when you were doing this to a set of boxes (like a social security number), you'd end up with some pretty ragged spacing.



There were also a very small number of self-justifying MECHANICAL typewriters made. Really bizarre machines. Not that I think they had them in Hawaii, but just so the OP knows it isn't impossible.

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