Obama Birth Certificate Text Contains Kerning -- Apparently Impossible | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1366583 United States 05/02/2011 01:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1228845 The narrative you are supposed to be following is that a birth certificate exists which uses technology which had not been invented at the time, LOL. They think we're stupid. Maybe we are. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1365196 United States 05/02/2011 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why could the apparent kerning not be due to paper slipping between key strokes so as to create uneven spacing between characters? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366162Perhaps, but the kerning for specific character is very consistent. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1366881 United States 05/02/2011 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why could the apparent kerning not be due to paper slipping between key strokes so as to create uneven spacing between characters? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366162Perhaps, but the kerning for specific character is very consistent. As in computer generated. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1366892 United States 05/02/2011 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why could the apparent kerning not be due to paper slipping between key strokes so as to create uneven spacing between characters? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1366162Perhaps, but the kerning for specific character is very consistent. As in computer generated. Correct. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1142753 United States 05/02/2011 02:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It was more of an art than anything. The individual metal letters had to be set up in the press and measured for precision so that when the document prints, everything looks uniform. Now why would they print birth certificates on a printing press?? They dont. Printing presses print shitloads of the same thing, newspapers, mail, books, advertising inserts, etc. Theyre designed to print millions of the same document to make money. What they dont do is print 1 thing and turn the machine off. And im pretty sure if the clerk typed it on a type writer, they wouldnt even know the first step of using kerning on a birth certificate. You have to take the whole thing apart and precisely tweak the machine to do that, type writers are complex as fuck. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 590335 United States 05/02/2011 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I brought this up in another LFBC thread, but I'm not sure if it's been looked into yet. Remember how, on old detective shows, typewriter "forensics" were often used to prove a case? I can remember various episodes in which the investigator pointed out that the suspect's typewriter must have been the same one the kidnappers used, because of the slightly elevated "E" or whatever in both typewritten samples. Now look at the alleged LFBC. Under father's race, it says "African," and all of the letters line up evenly. However, when it lists father's place of birth as "Kenya, East Africa," the "A" is out of alignment with the rest of the word. Wouldn't it have to remain consistent throughout the document? |
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Nada User ID: 225016 United States 05/02/2011 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many birth certificates does this dude have? LOL! [link to www.latenightinthemidlands.com] Read the bottom line per grandma! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1364654 Hungary 05/02/2011 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to trueconservative101.com] By the "kerning" logic, it has to be fake too... TICKER GUY FAIL! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1144159 United States 05/02/2011 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a Hawaiian birth certificate from 1963: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1364654[link to trueconservative101.com] By the "kerning" logic, it has to be fake too... TICKER GUY FAIL! Having spent ten years as a typewrite repair tech, all I can say is thank you. None of this is kerning. This sort of stuff was very very common on the IBM Model C and the IBM Model D, Underwoods, as well as many cheaper typewriters of the 1950s and early 1960s. It only really disappeared somewhat with the advent of the IBM Selectrics, and most of the later daisy wheeled 'electronic' typewriters. Even the daisy wheels could at times do a very similar things to letter positions. It is no where uniform enough to be kerning. |
Lotus Flower User ID: 1361979 United Kingdom 05/02/2011 04:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many birth certificates does this dude have? LOL! Quoting: Nada 225016[link to www.latenightinthemidlands.com] Read the bottom line per grandma! Why is that bottom line per grandma not on the birth certificate that is featured in the OP's link on Youtube? Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
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Northforker User ID: 1198091 United States 05/02/2011 04:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many birth certificates does this dude have? LOL! Quoting: Nada 225016[link to www.latenightinthemidlands.com] Read the bottom line per grandma! Why is that bottom line per grandma not on the birth certificate that is featured in the OP's link on Youtube? That is probably the real mcCoy!!!! Calling an illegal alien an undocumented alien is like calling a drug dealer an unlicensed pharmacist. I just realized... they aren't saying, "Keynesian Economics" they're saying "Kenyansian Economics". Grass Huts for everyone! Herbert Spencer, originator of the term, "Survival of the Fittest," said it best - "The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools." |
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Lotus Flower User ID: 1361979 United Kingdom 05/02/2011 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How many birth certificates does this dude have? LOL! Quoting: Nada 225016[link to www.latenightinthemidlands.com] Read the bottom line per grandma! Why is that bottom line per grandma not on the birth certificate that is featured in the OP's link on Youtube? That is probably the real mcCoy!!!! Yeah, that crossed my mind too. Anybody else found the same one on any other webpage, just out of interest? Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1353098 United States 05/02/2011 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Believe me I'm a birther through and through (look at my post history), but before anything else I want the truth. I found this copy of the Nordykes' BC. It seems from the naked eye that there's kerning in it (look at the T and the Y in Maternity), but I'd rather you guys take a look and maybe see if anyone knows of a better copy that I can plug into Photoshop myself. [link to 2.bp.blogspot.com] |
weegie User ID: 1365618 United Kingdom 05/02/2011 06:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something I haven't seen anyone else mention yet. My husband and I both have hand-written official birth certificates from two different states in two different years. It used to be VERY difficult to fill in forms with a typewriter. The form itself would have to be designed for Pica or Elite SIZE. And the form would only be the right size for one size of typewriter, you would be out of luck if you had the other size. My first office jobs involved filling in forms...it was much easier to just fill in boxes by hand if it wasn't something for display...like maybe a diploma. I called fake as soon as I notice that. To fill in the boxes requires the right typewriter, adjusted to the right starting point on the first box...all adjusted to the perfect height so everything landed in a box...and the paper perfectly straight horizontally so nothing ran out of the box top or bottom...and you'd have to watch EVERY single keystroke to be sure you weren't going crooked. |
Lotus Flower User ID: 1361979 United Kingdom 05/03/2011 01:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Something I haven't seen anyone else mention yet. My husband and I both have hand-written official birth certificates from two different states in two different years. It used to be VERY difficult to fill in forms with a typewriter. The form itself would have to be designed for Pica or Elite SIZE. And the form would only be the right size for one size of typewriter, you would be out of luck if you had the other size. My first office jobs involved filling in forms...it was much easier to just fill in boxes by hand if it wasn't something for display...like maybe a diploma. I called fake as soon as I notice that. To fill in the boxes requires the right typewriter, adjusted to the right starting point on the first box...all adjusted to the perfect height so everything landed in a box...and the paper perfectly straight horizontally so nothing ran out of the box top or bottom...and you'd have to watch EVERY single keystroke to be sure you weren't going crooked. Quoting: weegieI don't know about any of that. I remember my first job was as a typist and in those days, it was a manual typewriter that was the normal thing in offices (during the 1970s). It would be as simple as can be to press in the end of the roller so that it would move smoothly, you then simply adjusted where you wanted the typing line to be, released the roller and voila, you were in the box. I am very interested, however, in the line that is missing re the Grandmother's bit, that is featured in one version of the certificate, but missing in another...... Lotus Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares - Hebrews 13:2 One Crowded hour of glorious life, is worth an age without a name - Thomas Osbert Mordaunt |
nomuse (not logged in) User ID: 1135643 United States 05/03/2011 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I used to fill out forms with little boxes with my beloved IBM Correcting Selectric. Besides the ability to free the platen roller that machine gave you, there was a half-space adjustment -- I forget what it was designed for, but it was perfect for shifting the letter until you could get it exactly into the box. One side effect was that when you were doing this to a set of boxes (like a social security number), you'd end up with some pretty ragged spacing. There were also a very small number of self-justifying MECHANICAL typewriters made. Really bizarre machines. Not that I think they had them in Hawaii, but just so the OP knows it isn't impossible. |