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[link to www.americaswetlandresources.com]


this tells the complete story with pictures

OP was right on with the concern for what could happen
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Thanks for that link, Ice. Very interesting!

I wouldn't want to be living in New Orleans or anywhere else in that area.
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wow last image is amazing, what they design to make the MS River squared by flooding large parts of cities
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No, I thought that last image was amazing too, but it's a schematic like the map of the London Underground - just a simplified way of looking at the parts, they don't actually have a square form, it's a convenience to grasp the concepts on a map.
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this tells the complete story with pictures

OP was right on with the concern for what could happen
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THANK YOU ICE ! This was the kind of information I was looking for. My family lives in the Hub of Acadiana and I have been sharing this thread information with him. Up till now, I did not understand the catalyst for potential flood problems of the areas mentioned by the original poster of this thread.
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this tells the complete story with pictures

OP was right on with the concern for what could happen
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THANK YOU ICE ! This was the kind of information I was looking for. My family lives in the Hub of Acadiana and I have been sharing this thread information with him. Up till now, I did not understand the catalyst for potential flood problems of the areas mentioned by the original poster of this thread.
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the Corps is very much aware of this major concern and they are not stupid as we like to think

I know many in this group and they are 100% all in

in NOT alowing this to happen

take heart in the effort but massive water is a massive concern !!

pray


64 lbs per cubic ft of water and think about how much water we are talking about
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God you americans panic over everthing, there is nothing going to happen at all your just panicking for nothing as usual like you alwsy do, you will be tellin me next that osama was really killed a few days ago, morons.
WHEN BUGGER ALL HAPPEN TODAY OR TOMORROW COME BACK AND SAY SORRY , GOD YOUR SUCH MORONS.iamwithiamwithiamwith
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hey Brit

you guys shut down the country for a wedding right !


think about it
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this tells the complete story with pictures

OP was right on with the concern for what could happen
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THANK YOU ICE ! This was the kind of information I was looking for. My family lives in the Hub of Acadiana and I have been sharing this thread information with him. Up till now, I did not understand the catalyst for potential flood problems of the areas mentioned by the original poster of this thread.
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the Corps is very much aware of this major concern and they are not stupid as we like to think

I know many in this group and they are 100% all in

in NOT alowing this to happen

take heart in the effort but massive water is a massive concern !!

pray

OMG Ice, did you read the details from that link??????
Here is what they say would happen:

One of the reasons that people suggested that the Atchafalaya would eventually "capture" (that is, the main flow of water through our state would exit Morgan City instead of its present location at the mouth of the Mississippi) is that the distance is so much shorter and steeper to the Gulf via the Atchafalaya than the meandering Mississippi:

ORCS to Gulf via Atchafalaya: 142 mi
ORCS to Gulf via Mississippi: 335 mi
If the events of 1973, as described above happened, how would life on the lower Mississippi and Louisiana coast change? Would the present-day Mississippi River suddenly dry up? Would a fisherman sitting by the river see it go "glub, glub, glub," with fish flopping around in the mud? Would ship traffic stop on the river? Would there be any impact at all? The following description of possible life after the change is excerpted from Kazmann and Johnson (1980:10-16).

In the aftermath of the huge floods that would cause the main flow of the river to jump to the Atchafalaya River, aside from the cost, anxiety, tragedy, and aggravation of dealing with massive amounts of water being in the wrong place, there would be lingering issues that would change the way of life on the lower Mississippi. Instead of 70% flow down the lower Mississippi and 30% flow down the Atchafalaya, the percentages would probably reverse. The Atchafalaya would be a rushing, raging river, even during the fall for a period of time until it scoured the channel and filled in the lower reaches so that the flow would diminish. Morgan City would have to be relocated, as would other communities and many businesses, possibly including the massive infrastructure of the offshore oil and gas industry. Fisheries would be altered measurably all across the delta. Oyster reefs would be immediately destroyed, and would take several years to reestablish and become productive (no erysters!). It would probably take two decades to adapt to the new environment around present day Morgan City. Additionally, pipelines, bridges, and the like that cross the Atchafalaya would be destroyed or rendered unsafe. The ruptured natural gas pipelines would place stress on fuel supplies for energy companies, but they would quickly change to more costly fuel sources and have little or no interruption of service. Imagine the traffic jams when and if bridges on I-10, U.S. 90, and U.S. 190 collapse (what about the railroads)? All trans-state traffic would have to be rerouted to I-20 via I-55 through Jackson, Mississippi, adding up to 615 miles to the trip (not to mention time delays from the traffic jams). The protective levees of the Atchafalaya Basin would have to be upgraded to handle the new pressure from spring flows. And, oh my gosh, think of the negative impact on the crawfish supply!

The lower Mississippi would still have a copious amount of water, but it would be slack compared to today. Shipping could continue to be an important industry, but it would be interrupted for a time. The slack water would allow (cause) the thalweg to fill in and stop deep-draft shipping. However, after intensive dredging efforts it may be found that a 50 ft channel can be easily maintained because of the tremendous decrease in sediment. New Orleans, possibly Baton Rouge, and all other cities and towns along the lower Mississippi would no longer be able to get their drinking water from the river. It would become too salty, since the lower fresh water flow would not offset the tidal movement of the Gulf. Can you imagine the cost of piping or trucking enough drinking (and flushing, etc.) water from north of Lake Pontchartrain to supply the needs of Greater New Orleans? Can you imagine Greater New Orleans without water for drinking and sanitation? Even when the water was just barely increasing in salinity, there would be severe damage to water heaters, fire sprinklers, fire truck pumping systems, and more. The quality of our coffee! As mentioned above, the fisheries (especially those associated with the fresh water river) would suddenly change. And what about the massive petrochemical industry corridor? Aside from the impact on shipping, which they could weather over time, industry could no longer use fresh river water for thermo-electric cooling. The saltier water would corrode all the pipes and related instrumentation. Of course, industry would change to salt-tolerant materials, but that would be costly and time consuming. Also, the sugarcane industry would have problems without sufficient fresh water.

All of this adjustment, and we have not delved into the intensity of impact on people's lives during the crisis and the adjustment period. All normal routines would stop. Businesses would be closed, as would schools, normal government, etc., etc. Virtually the entire population would spend months and months just coping - just putting their and others' lives back together. Imagine the emotional strain to the population - people losing a lifetime of accomplishment. This would be a tragedy of monumental proportions. It would interrupt life much like World War II.

One can also imagine the impact on the nation. Massive use of Federal dollars to protect and restore Louisiana's infrastructure. Loss of natural gas (there would be brown-outs throughout the eastern seaboard). Commerce would be interrupted by restriction of travel and Louisiana=s inability to focus on supplying items traditionally demanded from her natural resources by the nation. Prices of all Louisiana products (from the natural resources [fisheries, oil, gas] to industrial products [poly vinyl chloride, polyethelene, etc.]) would soar. The interruption of the pogie fisheries would be very negative for such food industries as chicken, catfish, and hogs (see the last section of the notes). New Orleans is one of the most important ports in the nation, and it would suddenly cease to function; all shipping and related industries on the Mississippi River would stop. International trade would be further imbalanced. The massive fertilizer business would shut down and the agriculture industry would falter.

And what about the economy of south Louisiana? For a period of time, all the revenue would dry up and tourism would collapse. Even Mardi Gras would possibly come to a halt!!! Only the mosquitoes would do well! And probably the cockroaches and Formosan termites.

Long term, we would adapt. Once the drinking and sanitation water issues were resolved, tourism would return. Coastal erosion could be reversed on the west side of the present-day Mississippi River. Shrimp, oysters, and other fisheries would probably flourish after a number of years due to new marshes being produced and nutrient rich sediments being redistributed.

This would obviously place a lot of stress on at least two generations of residents. We would survive, but it would be a new Louisiana and Mississippi River delta.


64 lbs per cubic ft of water and think about how much water we are talking about
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It seems the Army Corps of Engineers is reducing its commitment to the Mississippi and letting the river straighten out. If they're letting it flood from above Cairo IL straight to New Madrid MO, that's a big straightening. If it goes down the Atchafalaya, that's another straightening.

As with much built up structures, it seems the US government is forcing a return to nature. Let nature take its course. Similarly, we are no longer allowed to drain wetlands or divert water from them. Don't even emit CO2, virtually the most common molecule there is, into the atmosphere. Don't smoke outdoors in NYC. And so on.

I don't see any engineering sense to what they are doing on the Mississippi. Seems more like a different agenda.
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Very good point, oniongrass.

Don't forget they are also re-introducing coyotes, cougers, and other predatory wildlife back into areas where they were previously eradicated.
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[link to www.americaswetlandresources.com]

Check out these maps of Louisiana rivers and waterways and info on this wetlands link.
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There is a schematic at the bottom of this link that is a must see.

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This thread has a lot of good info. It should run at least tonight. [link to 86.109.29.66] for times like these especially.
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Baton Rouge is looking for 47.5 ft

record and higher thand 1927
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Terrebonne Parish Preps For Possible Spillway Opening

Parish President Michel Claudet said, "The cities most likely to be impacted are Stevensville, Morgan City and Houma, specifically the western part of the parish."

Claudet spent Wednesday afternoon with emergency operations leaders preparing for Thursday's visit from the Corps of Engineers.

"It's kind of like the BP oil spill, it's uncharted territory," said Claudet. "If the Morganza is opened, it could be devastating."

In order to protect New Orleans, Claudet said they will divert more water down the Atchafalaya. The water will come down the Atchafalaya and starts backing up near Bayou Black.
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In another development Wednesday, Atchafalaya Basin Levee District commissioners invited the presidents and sheriffs of seven parishes to join with them in preparing for dealing with a Mississippi River swollen with an enormous spring flood.

The high water “should stay within the levees,” Ted Eilts, Corps of Engineers’ area engineer for Lafayette, reassured those attending the gathering in the Levee District’s Port Allen headquarters.

Levee District President John Grezaffi said the corps intends to open the Bonnet Carré Spillway as early as Monday to relieve high water levels near New Orleans. The Mississippi River’s capacity was at 68 percent in Baton Rouge and 69 percent in New Orleans on Wednesday, Eilts said.

Depending on rain forecasts, Eilts said, there’s a “pretty good chance” the corps will open the Morganza Floodway control structure to allow some water from the Mississippi River to flow through the spillway into the Atchafalaya River.

The Morganza flood control structure, a type of dam with gates that can be opened to allow high water to pass through, hasn’t been opened to deal with Mississippi River flooding since 1973, said Will Tyson, Levee District executive director.

Tyson warned that opening the Morganza Floodway could potentially cause backwater flooding in areas such as Stephensville, near Morgan City, but he’s still not sure how much water the corps would release into the spillway and beyond to the Atchafalaya River.

“I’m just hoping that the corps would go ahead and make that decision because your people are asking you questions and we really can’t answer them,” Grezaffi said.

Eilts said the crest — or highest water level — at Red River Landing upriver from the Morganza Floodway, is projected at 65.5 feet, higher than the water gauge there has ever recorded.
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5 stars and a pin suggestion.

All of you there,,, please,,,PLEASE just leave. There are NO material things worth your live(s).

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Interesting comments on the Louisiana Governor's Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness Facebook page

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Misty Pecanty
What is the situation with the Black River Levee? We here in Acme, Shaw, Larto, Mayna, and Jonesville are wondering what are we expecting with the rise of the water. We are hearing different things from everyone. Are they going to blow up the Levee at Black Hawk, Louisiana to bring in water onto the Red and Black River. Do we need to evacuate? PLEASE send some information.
12 hours ago ·

Kaila Parker Cagle
I would like to know also...my husband has to drive that route to work and also works in that area!
6 hours ago

Jennifer Moreland
I want to know about the effect on Ouachita Parish if a levee were to break. Specifically, the one in Vidalia that is the weakest link according to The News Star. Ouachita Parish is 90 miles from there and they're saying that if that levee fails, we will he under 4 feet of water.
about an hour ago ·
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More Radar Rings Over Memphis this time... they're pounding the area and aren't going to stop...

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Flooding Similar or Worse than 1973 Possible

It appears that based on the rapidly increasing flow of the Mississippi River anticipated over the next several days that the River Control Structure and the Morganza Spillway will likely be opened to relieve Mississippi River levee pressure downstream.

Unfortunately this will likely lead to major flooding of low-lying, non-levee protected areas from St Landry Parish, southeastward through Upper and Lower St Martin, Iberia, St Mary and Terrebonne Parishes

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Jindal to Atchafalaya residents: "Expect as much flooding as in '73"

BATON ROUGE -- A decision on whether to open the Moganza Spillway to relieve pressure on Mississippi River levees could be made next week, Gov. Bobby Jindal said Friday.

But water already is rising in the vast floodway because of the mandated diversion of 30 percent of the Mississippi's flow into the Atchafalaya River.

Jindal said residents who flooded when the spillway last opened in 1973 should expect flooding again.

He urged residents who might be affected to make plans to evacuate on their own or to Red Cross shelters, which would be located closer to residents' homes than would be the case for a hurricane.

Department of Wildlife and Fisheries Secretary Robert Barham said residents of downstream communities will be seeing bears, deer, wild hogs and other wildlife as it flees the rising water.

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Flood warning issued for Atchafalaya River at Simmesport


A flood warning was issued for Atchafalaya River, including unprotected and low areas of Simmesport on Thursday afternoon by NWS. The areas above Simmesport and in Pointe Coupee Parish could experience moderate flooding.

The flood stage is set at 47 feet and until Thursday the forecast didn’t call for the water to get above flood stage in Simmesport. On Thursday, the forecast changed to say the river was expected to be above flood stage on Wednesday afternoon, May 18. It will continue to rise until it crests near 50 feet on Sunday morning, May 22.

The river when it reaches 35 feet will start backwater flooding.

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Governor warns of flooding

BATON ROUGE — Krotz Springs and Butte LaRose are in danger of being flooded if the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers opens part of the Old River Control Structure to relieve rising flow in the Mississippi River, Gov. Bobby Jindal said.

The governor issued warnings Thursday that people whose homes and land are in the Morganza Spillway north and west of Baton Rouge or the Bonnet Carre Spillway between Baton Rouge and New Orleans should make preparations to evacuate if flood gates are opened.

The Mississippi River is rising because of heavy rains in the Mississippi and Ohio River valleys and in Arkansas. A crest is predicted May 23 but it's not expected to recede quickly, which the governor says will put more pressure on levees.

St. Landry Parish Sheriff Bobby Guidroz said officials are already implementing plans to slow down the floodwaters that are rushing toward the state.

"It's not the height of the water that scares us," Guidroz said, "but the volume and the pressure and the speed of the water."

To alleviate some of that pressure, speed and volume, the Army Corps of Engineers plans to request permission today from the Mississippi River Commission to open the Morganza Spillway east of Krotz Springs. Officials hope to have the spillway fully open by May 14, Guidroz said.

But that doesn't mean there won't be some flooding in the parish if the Morganza Spillway is opened, Guidroz said. In fact, it will likely cause some lesser flooding.

"We're going to get some backwash from the Teche and Bayou Courtableau," he said.

The Atchafalaya will swell as a result, at least temporarily.

"Fifty-four percent of the water capacity flowing through the Morganza Spillway will go into the Atchafalaya," Guidroz said.

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PERC Reports: Volume 25,
No.3, Fall 2007
Army Corps of Engineers Project Ahead

By David Haddock


Imagine citizens who don’t know of their nation’s fifth largest river, much less its name. Imagine bureaucrats who acknowledge but disregard warnings of impending disaster along its floodplain. Imagine that, for political gain, legislators invest taxpayers’ money in projects that increase the peril. Welcome to the Atchafalaya.

Why should Americans care? Because the billions of dollars Congress already has spent and the billions more they are poised to spend in the Lower Mississippi Basin, most visibly around New Orleans, will not only prove to be a colossal waste; the projects jeopardize the lives of thousands of people who live there.
The Atchafalaya River is a distributary of the Mississippi. Tributaries bring water to a river; distributaries carry some away. Nearly everyone has heard of the Missouri River, a tributary. The Atchafalaya carries three times the water away from the Mississippi as the Missouri brings to it.

Before reaching the Gulf, the Mississippi travels twice as far as the Atchafalaya from the point where the rivers split. Thus, the Atchafalaya’s water moves faster, causing more erosion. As a result, in 1945 the Atchafalaya’s streambed cut so deeply into the Red River, a tributary of the Mississippi, that all of the Red’s water began to flow down the Atchafalaya. By pirating the Red, the Atchafalaya became the eighth longest river in the United States. Through a similar process, the Atchafalaya eventually will capture the Mississippi itself. It would have done that by 1975 if two decades earlier Congress had not ordered the Army Corps of Engineers to construct a dam across Old River, the connector between the rivers, freezing the prevailing water shares at one-third for the Atchafalaya and two-thirds for the Mississippi. As of the mid-seventies, the Mississippi has been rising (silting) as the Atchafalaya has been falling (eroding). Imagine, as nonfiction guru John McPhee wrote three decades ago, standing at the headwaters of the Atchafalaya and looking up three storeys at the Mississippi, the largest river in North America. Hydrologists have been sounding the alarm for much longer.

Why the danger? As the Atchafalaya erodes it threatens to undermine the Old River dams and drop a deluge into the Atchafalaya. A wall of water racing to the Gulf would scour farmlands and crush habitations—22,000 people live adjacent to the river banks.

Perhaps the event will prove less catastrophic. For 200 miles, the Mississippi lies within ten miles of the Atchafalaya drainage and occasional floods temporarily merge the rivers. When some future inundation recedes, upstream water may follow a flood-eroded channel into the Atchafalaya, preventing the Corps from stuffing the genie back into the bottle. The mortal threats are avoidable, but Corps plans perversely encourage people to return to the Lower Mississippi Valley rather than to remain where they found shelter following Hurricane Katrina.

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Warning posted on another site:

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MrLSU: IT IS VERY IMPORTANT that everyone in this general vicinity take as many pictures & video of their property ASAP. Whether you think you will be affected or not if you live anywhere near the Atchafalaya River flood plain you should start documenting your property loss now. If it doesn't flood terrific but if it does you make sure you have documented everything you have on your property so if it is destroyed you can use this information for flood insurance purposes.

Unfortunately this is going to affect several thousands homes & businesses. USACE has a blast zone number but are not releasing it because they don't want to create a political panic.
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MISS. RIVER LEVEL UPDATE
Current projections show the crests on the MS River are as follows:

Vidalia
(flood stage is 48 feet): projection is around 64 feet on the morning of 5/22. Right now it is at 52 feet – has come up a foot in the last 24 hours, and will continue to go up about a foot a day.

Tallulah (flood stage is 43 feet): projection is around 57.5 feet on the morning of 5/20. Rose more than a foot in the last 24 hours and is projected to rise a foot a day for the next six days.

Red River Landing
(flood stage is 68 feet): projection is around 65.5 feet on morning of 5/23. This is more than four feet above the highest level on record.

Baton Rouge (flood stage is 35 feet): projection is 47.5 feet on afternoon of 5/23.We are at flood stage right now in Baton Rouge – the levees here protect the city until 48 feet. The expected crest in Baton Rouge is around the level of the record flood of 1927 (48 feet).

Donaldsonville
(flood state is 27 feet): projection is 36 feet on evening of 5/23. This is within about two feet of the top of the levee and ties the record level (1927).

Reserve
(flood stage is 22 feet): projection is 25 feet on morning of 5/24. Within one foot of major flood stage and within one foot of the record level (1929 – 26 feet).

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Menard declares state of emergency for parish; Morganza Spillway flooding certain

“It is inevitable that Morganza will flood and the system will top, regardless of whether they open the system,” Strain said at a press conference at the Governor’s Office of Homeland Security.

Jindal said he has asked the Corps of Engineers to provide maps of areas that are anticipated to flood, with and without opening the gates. He said he wants people who would be affected to be able to prepare before the water starts rising.

“Even without opening the spillway, folks can expect flooding comparable to 1973,” the governor said. “If they decide to open the spillway, it will be a lot more.”

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Are there any Nuclear Power Plants in the water's potential path??????
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River Bend in St. Francisville Louisiana, my husband works there and they are have been working to protect intake values.
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NEW ORLEANS --

Just a year after the BP oil spill crippled Louisiana's oyster industry, the fishermen face a new problem. Freshwater is set to be diverted from the mighty Mississippi River into the salty waters where the shellfish grow, potentially killing them.

To protect people, homes and businesses along the big river, the Army Corps of Engineers plans to open at least one spillway, sending water out of the river. The tactic may ease the pressure on levees, but it will almost certainly kill the shellfish, too.

Fourth-generation oysterman Shane Bagala spent months skimming oil to make money. Earlier this week, though, he embarked on his first oyster run, returning with a healthy catch. But he became worried when he heard the corps was considering opening a spillway.

"I'm very concerned because I'm just getting back to work now for the first time since the oil spill. Now it looks like something else might be threatening us," said Bagala, who has fished for oysters for 22 years.

The corps plans on Monday to open the Bonnet Carre Spillway, built about 30 miles northwest New Orleans in response to the great flood of 1927. The spillway diverts river water to brackish Lake Pontchartrain, and from there east into the fertile fishing and oyster grounds of Lake Borgne and the Mississippi Sound, and ultimately the Gulf.

It's been opened nine times since 1937, most recently in spring 2008, when the river was swollen by heavy rains in the Mississippi Valley.

The corps is also considering opening the Morganza Spillway, about 35 miles northwest of Baton Rouge. It diverts river water into the Atchafalaya Basin. It hasn't been opened since 1973.

Mike Voisin, an owner of an oyster processing and sales business southwest of New Orleans, said Morganza's opening would devastate oyster harvesting grounds that largely avoided damage from the oil spill.

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Estimated Flooding Map for Louisiana


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Comments about the recently released flood projection map and latest news: [link to www.tigerdroppings.com]

ScottieP:

Wow!!!

That is the first flood projection I have seen.

I spent the day in meetings and prepping for next week.

I was going to update on some things I found out today but that map pretty much tells the whole story.

Anyway here you go.

As of 1100 pm on 5/6

Vicksburg has a flow of 1.79million cfs
Baton Rouge has aflow of 1.15 million cfs
Belle Chasse has aflow of 1.01 million cfs (site effected by tide.

Bonnet Carre and Morganza Spillways are completely closed.

Flow through Morganza is 0 cfs and flow through Bonnet Carre is approx 1500cfs (there is leakage at the BC structure.. it is normal)

Bonnet Carre will be opened on Monday at 8am. it will take apprx 3 days to open all 250 bays. Estimated flow of 250000 cfs when structure is completely opened (can be higher depending on head pressure on river side).

Permission has been asked and CORPS is waiting for an answer to open Morganza. Will take a few days. The projection is that Morganza will open on Thursday. Morganza will not be completely opened. CORPS will only send the water through Morganza that is needed to keep flow in Baton Rouge at 1.5 million cfs.

Going to try and enjoy the weekend b/c I will be working plenty of OT. If anyone is driving over the HWY61 bridge next week look for the big guy in the orange shirt that will be me collecting sediment samples from the BC spillway.

BTW Good luck to those in the Morgan City/Houma area.
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Projections show Morganza Floodway opening would threaten more than a dozen communities

The likely, though not yet announced, opening of the Morganza Floodway to lower Mississippi River levels along Baton Rouge and New Orleans will produce widespread flooding that prompted the Army Corps of Engineers on Friday night to warn residents of Pointe Coupee, St Landry, St Martin, Iberia, Iberville, St Mary, and Terrebonne parishes to contact public officials about evacuation plans.

That announcement came in a news release accompanying a map showing estimates of inundation caused by a 50 percent opening of the Morganza Floodway that indicated that more than a dozen Louisiana communities will be threatened with floodwaters, including Houma, Plaquemine, St. Francisville, Morgan City, Berwick, Raceland and Mathews. The map is the result of computer modeling conducted during the past few days by the corps in support of its plans to open the spillway.

"As floodwaters progress through the Morganza Floodway to the Gulf of Mexico, the height of the water could reach between 5 and upwards of 25 feet above ground elevation, causing widespread flooding and inundation," says a news release accompanying the map.

"Public notice of operation (of the floodway) and required evacuation will be given through your state and local emergency officials and other governmental authorities, as well as media outlets," the news release said.
"Notification will be given in advance with adequate time for evacuation; however, expeditious action must be taken to protect life and property." If the spillway is not opened, according to the most recent forecast of the Natiional Weather Service, the water level in the Mississippi River at New Orleans would rise to 19.5 feet, only a half foot from the top of floodwalls that protect the city.





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