NOW LETS FINISH THE DOCTRINE of DEVILS CALLED THE RAPTURE DOCTRINE.

What passage of scripture do they use to find a rapturing away before tribulation?

1Thessalonians 4:16-17 And this one seems to be the only one they use of the many that describe when the Son of God returns.

SOON.....Our Blessed Hope will come for us.

And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
I Thessalonians 1:10
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For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him. Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.
I Thessalonians 5:9-11
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So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
Hebrews 9:28

When he returns we all know that all will not be looking for him. He's returning the second time to those that ARE looking for him. That's why we're instructed to watch.
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And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt.

And they that be wise shall shine as the brightness of the firmament; and they that turn many to righteousness as the stars for ever and ever.

But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.

Then I Daniel looked, and, behold, there stood other two, the one on this side of the bank of the river, and the other on that side of the bank of the river.

And one said to the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, How long shall it be to the end of these wonders?

And I heard the man clothed in linen, which was upon the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand unto heaven, and sware by him that liveth for ever that it shall be for a time, times, and an half; and when he shall have accomplished to scatter the power of the holy people, all these things shall be finished.

And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things?

And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.

Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand.

And from the time that the daily sacrifice shall be taken away, and the abomination that maketh desolate set up, there shall be a thousand two hundred and ninety days.

Blessed is he that waiteth, and cometh to the thousand three hundred and five and thirty days.

But go thou thy way till the end be: for thou shalt rest, and stand in thy lot at the end of the days. Dan 12:1-13

WISE WILL UNDERSTAND......

The book of Daniel ends with words that are prophetic for the time we now live:

"Go your way, Daniel, because the words are closed up and sealed UNTIL the TIME OF THE END. Many will be PURIFIED, made SPOTLESS and REFINED, but the wicked will continue to be wicked. None of the wicked will understand, but THOSE WHO ARE WISE WILL UNDERSTAND."

Come for us soon Lord Jesus, Our Blessed hope.

More great verses for OP to FIGHT....

OP, you there? Are you going to answer my two questions????

tick-tock, tick-tock

You cant answer to made up bullshit like the rapture.

Matthew 24:21,22

"For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved; but for the elects' sake those days shall be shortened.


Expect great tribulation to come first.

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I thought He lets the wheat keep growing with the weeds because if you uproot too soon, the wheat will fall.

Such a great divide over this "rapture".
Aren't we just satisfied being included in the family of God?

Matthew 25:31 - When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

Matthew 25:32 - And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth [his] sheep from the goats:

Matthew 25:33 - And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

Matthew 25:34 - Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

These verses make it look like we are still here when He comes with His angels.

Satan laughs, here's a couple more doctrines of his...

Your sins are all covered, Jesus did it all on the cross, you
are justified by the one time altar call

Once saved, always saved

Satan laughs, here's a couple more doctrines of his...

Your sins are all covered, Jesus did it all on the cross, you
are justified by the one time altar call

Once saved, always saved

So let's here it from you. When do Christians receive their rewards/crowns for good works done in the body while on Earth???? Don't misdirect, it's shows you don't have an answer to my questions.

I think "OP" went on to bed because he started this thread at 1 am. I did a look up on this and the rewards look like they come on Judgement Day after all the other stuff is said and done ... me thinks. I found some verses on it:

“For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive the things DONE IN THE BODY, according to what He has done, whether good or bad.” (2 Corinthians 5:10)

“… and each one will receive His own reward ACCORDING TO HIS OWN LABOR.” (1 Corinthians 3:8)

“… I am He who searches the minds and hearts. And I will give to each one of you ACCORDING TO YOUR WORKS.” (Revelation 2:23)

“And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to everyone ACCORDING TO HIS WORK.” (Revelation 22:12)

That last verse says it's coming with Him.
I dunno ... I guess the judgement seat will be here then.

5 Crowns I found too ...
1. The Crown of Righteousness
“I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. Finally, there is laid up for me the CROWN OF RIGHTEOUSNESS, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will give to me on that Day, and not to me only but also to all who have loved His appearing.” (2 Timothy 4:7-8)

2. The Incorruptible Crown
“Do you not know that those who run in a race all run, but one receives the prize? Run in such a way that you may obtain it. And everyone who competes for the prize is temperate in all things.
Now they do it to obtain a perishable crown, but we for an IMPERISHABLE CROWN. Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air. But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.” (1 Corinthians 9:24-27)

3. The Crown of Life
“Do not fear any of those things which you are about to suffer. Indeed, the devil is about to throw some of you into prison, that you may be tested, and you will have tribulation ten days. Be faithful until death, and I will give you the CROWN OF LIFE.” (Revelation 2:10)
(hmmm... is that us being thrown into jail?)

4. The Crown of Rejoicing
“For what is our hope, or joy, or CROWN OF REJOICING? Is it not even you in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at His coming? For you are our glory and joy.” (1 Thessalonians 2:19-20)

5. The Crown of Glory
“The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed.
SHEPHERD THE FLOCK OF GOD which is among you, serving as overseers, not by constraint but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly; nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock; and when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the CROWN OF GLORY that does not fade away.” (1 Peter 5:1-4)

Pretty kool stuff going on there.
I'm whooped now doing all this research but I love gathering to glorify God ... I smile a lot too ... smiles.

Oh put a cork in it ... I'm trying to learn something here and you are just a distraction now.

You left out the repentance part too.
You just can't keep on committing the same sins over and over again and expect to get away with it.

And satan is just mad because he lost his death grip on the children of God and now you just want to mock it and shame it like satan did. Is that who sent you here? Where's my weed whacker ... smiles.

I never forget repentance dear Truth Seeker. You can't get
into Heaven with mortal sin on your soul. Every other post
I speak of repentance and confession.

"Put a cork in it", not very nice. Is it because you believe
those two false teachings I mentioned?

I never forget repentance dear Truth Seeker. You can't get
into Heaven with mortal sin on your soul. Every other post
I speak of repentance and confession.

"Put a cork in it", not very nice. Is it because you believe
those two false teachings I mentioned?

Doctrine of devils? dramatic much?

A true believer will wait till they die. Let it go. There are somethings that will not be agreed upon.

Because you said satan laughs and here are a couple more doctrines of his ... that's why I said put a cork in it.
The way I read your statement is as if you were mocking Gods word.

Couldn't sleep myself... mortal sin... Are you Catholic? If so just know that when Christ said it is FINISHED he was not lying... He is not perpetually suffering on that crucifix but he is RISEN!!!!

and don't forget Matthew 23:9
9And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.

and to not marry and not eat meat (can you say Lent)
1 Timothy 4:1 - 3
1Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 2Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron; 3Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.


....that's if you are Catholic... You can come to Yeshua in repentance and faith.... that's how you obtain his free gift of Grace. Remember that.