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Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?

 
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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
125 ÷ 5(5) = ?

is the same as

125 ÷ 5 x 5 = ?

BEDMAS left to right:

25(5) = 125
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Not the same. That is the problem with everyone getting 9. That is why the author wrote the equation the way it is. Anyone not well versed in maths doesn't get it, so they will swear it is 9 because of some "mnemonic". All the 1's WILL understand the implied ( ) or grouping. the 9's will not believe the 1's. Stalemate for the most part.

For example. What is 6 ÷ 6 ?
Is 6 = 2(3) ? Yes.
So 6 ÷ 2(3) = ?

6 ÷ 2 * 3 = ?

"Six divided by 2 three's is 1"
6 ÷ 2(3) = 1

"Six divided by 2 times 3 is 9"
6 ÷ 2 * 3 = 9

Math is a way of expressing real world scenarios.
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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
Looks, I don't know PEMDAS from BEDMAS even though I'm sure I learned them in elementary school or middle school math.

What I do know is writing alebraic expressions in computer programing and how they are evaluated by a computer language such as C.

When you are facing an expression that has distribution in it like 6÷2(1+2) then you must do the distributed part first and then the remainder of the equation after evaluating the distribution.

2(1+2) must be evaluated first as whole before you consider the remainder of 6÷2(1+2).

You can rewrite the equation as 6÷(2(1+2)). The second set of parenthesis is implied when you have a distribution.

You know you have a distribution because the contents inside of the parenthesis has addition in it (2+1). This means the entirety of the contents within the parenthesis must always be multiplied by what immediately precedes it to the the left on the outside of parenthesis. You don't get to do other operations such as addition, subtraction multiplication, etc before you evaluate 2(1+2).

2(1+2) = 2(3) = 6
6÷2(1+2) = 6÷(2(1+2)) = 6÷(2(3)) = 6÷(6) = 1

Now if the equation was written like this:

6÷2*(1+2)

Then you have a different story, now the parenthesis still implies distribution, but because the * symbol is there then everything to the left of the * symbol is distributed an you can evaluate everything to the left of the * as a whole first.


6÷2*(1+2) = (6÷2)*(1+2) = (3) * (3) = 9

The lack of the * symbol in the original equation makes a ton of difference about how you treat the distribution implited by (2+1).

Answer in the original equation is 1.
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clappa

Exactly. Most don't understand the lack of ( ) around the 6 ÷ 2 means that expression cannot be distributed. I derived both equations from scratch, using factoring (the reverse of distribution)

6 ÷ 6 = 1
6 ÷ (4+2) = 1
6 ÷ 2(2+1)= 1 Extra Parentheses not required since we know the 2 was the GCF of 4+2. You can put them in, but it is redundant, just as (6) ÷ (6) = (1) is redundant.

3 * 3 = 9
(6/2)3 = 9 Here, we NEED ( ) because we cannot write 6/23
(6/2)(2+1) = 9

There you have it. Another way:
6 + 3 = 9
(6/2)2 + (6/2)1 = 9; We can't write 6/22 + 6/21
(6/2)(2+1) = 9

There are the 2 proofs of the equations in debate.
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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
google says its 9

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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
To caper and other 1tards...we actually listened in school.!

yay

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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
google says its 9

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No. Google changes the input: [link to i49.tinypic.com]
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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
6/2(1+2) = 9

6/(2(1+2)) = 1
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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
6 ÷ 6 = 1
6 ÷ (3+3) = 1
6 ÷ 3(1 + 1) = 1
6 ÷ (1+1)3 = 1

6 ÷ (4+2) = 1
6 ÷ 2(2+1) = 1
6 ÷ (2+1)2 = 1

6 ÷ 2n = 3/n
6 ÷ n2 = 3/n

1a ÷ 1a = 1 and not some retarded 1 * a ÷ 1 * a = a²
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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
Here is a real world example:

Solve:

100mm ÷ 10cm = ?
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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
Here is a real world example:

Solve:

100mm ÷ 10cm = ?
 Quoting: caper_26






Dont bother responding, because I wont respond. Just wanted to show this "joke of an answer" you gave in other thread.

Which is obviously so wrong it isnt even funny. Redunancy indeed!


That is THE most retarded answer I have ever seen. If you believe that, then no bloody wonder you getting 9 as a response.

"Redundancy Law"

A coefficient of 1 does NOT need to be written. It is ALWAYS implied. a = 1a . Also the Identity Law. You CAN write though, but because of the math LAW stated, it cannot change the outcome of the answer.

Please tell me you see what is wrong with this! I thank you for posting, because I can actually use that as yet ANOTHER way to prove 1 is the answer, as a matter of fact !!

3÷1(1+2)=9 What kind of special math is this??

'1' as a coefficient can be omitted.
that means, according to you:

3÷1(1+2)= 3÷(1+2)
9 = 1

In reality though,
3÷1(1+2)= 3÷(1+2)
1 = 1


Thank you for showing everyone this "proof" and good night. Nothing more to be said here after that one.

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I sincerely hope this is the last time you reply.

You are right, the 1 can be omitted. But that just means you remove the ÷, (the item between the 1 and 3), but that still leaves multiplication there. If you drop the "useless" 1, then you drop the item in between. Not the one after. at a loss for words.


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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
worfram's result:

6÷2(1+2)=1

false


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Nice one. I already proved wolfram doesn't know how to substitute values for variables.

If I gave you 6÷2n = 3/n, then told you n=2+1; it is mathematically invalid to say 9 = 1

This is what wolfram does. Wolfram is proven useless to solve this equation correctly.

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 Quoting: caper_26

Also take a look at that:

6÷2(1+2)=9 >>>> [link to s20.postimage.org]

then this one:

3÷1(1+2)=9 >>>> [link to s20.postimage.org]


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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
For all who dont understand math.

6/2(1+2) - Paranthesis first
6/2(3) - You dont get to do whatever you like to do first here, in an equation you work left to right. Like when you read, you dont start at the end of the sentence and work backwards. That would be STUPID
3(3) - Then you multiply

The Answer is 9.

Such a simple equation that seems to bother even the most critical mind. Ashamed I live in this country sometimes.
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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
Also take a look at that:

6÷2(1+2)=9 >>>> [link to s20.postimage.org]

then this one:

3÷1(1+2)=9 >>>> [link to s20.postimage.org]



 Quoting: you


I am responding because I think you are starting to see Caper for what he is. But maybe not.

Wolf is saying those things because Caper is wrong.

Read this below man. His own words. I think you can see the error in what he said/typed. Which clearly shows..

3÷1(1+2)=9

Exact same type of problem as original. See below.

That is THE most retarded answer I have ever seen. If you believe that, then no bloody wonder you getting 9 as a response.

"Redundancy Law"

A coefficient of 1 does NOT need to be written. It is ALWAYS implied. a = 1a . Also the Identity Law. You CAN write though, but because of the math LAW stated, it cannot change the outcome of the answer.

Please tell me you see what is wrong with this! I thank you for posting, because I can actually use that as yet ANOTHER way to prove 1 is the answer, as a matter of fact !!

3÷1(1+2)=9 What kind of special math is this??

'1' as a coefficient can be omitted.
that means, according to you:

3÷1(1+2)= 3÷(1+2)
9 = 1

In reality though,
3÷1(1+2)= 3÷(1+2)
1 = 1


Thank you for showing everyone this "proof" and good night. Nothing more to be said here after that one.

applause2
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I sincerely hope this is the last time you reply.

You are right, the 1 can be omitted. But that just means you remove the ÷, (the item between the 1 and 3), but that still leaves multiplication there. If you drop the "useless" 1, then you drop the item in between. Not the one after. at a loss for words.


You can see, by removing the redudant 1... it leaves you with one equation...
3(1+2).

If you really are not starting to see the error, then sorry for posting again.
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NOW, after that, am I a moran just because I'm still with the 1?

How do you 9 supporters can still breath? lmao.

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NOW, after that, am I a moran just because I'm still with the 1?

How do you 9 supporters can still breath? lmao.

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Lol an infinite loop of stupidity...
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At this point I'm, very proud of my red karma, really.

hf

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At this point I'm, very proud of my red karma, really.

hf

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They're desperate, is all.
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This one redkarma 'Yeah Left Forum, RETARD'


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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
I sincerely hope this is the last time you reply.

You are right, the 1 can be omitted. But that just means you remove the ÷, (the item between the 1 and 3),

You can see, by removing the redudant 1... it leaves you with one equation...
3(1+2).



 Quoting: Forgotten


I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this. Please go show this to your nearest math professor, then quickly dodge.

by your logic (or lack thereof)

a ÷ 1a is the same as writing aa ? For the reasons bolded above?


Please show me the reference where not actually writing the 1 as a coefficient allows me to remove the preceding operator as well. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Keep embarrassing yourself, kid. this is getting better by the second...

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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
I sincerely hope this is the last time you reply.

You are right, the 1 can be omitted. But that just means you remove the ÷, (the item between the 1 and 3),

You can see, by removing the redudant 1... it leaves you with one equation...
3(1+2).



 Quoting: Forgotten


I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this. Please go show this to your nearest math professor, then quickly dodge.

by your logic (or lack thereof)

a ÷ 1a is the same as writing aa ? For the reasons bolded above?


Please show me the reference where not actually writing the 1 as a coefficient allows me to remove the preceding operator as well. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!! Keep embarrassing yourself, kid. this is getting better by the second...
 Quoting: caper_26


I was like wtf
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I sincerely hope this is the last time you reply.

You are right, the 1 can be omitted. But that just means you remove the ÷, (the item between the 1 and 3),

You can see, by removing the redudant 1... it leaves you with one equation...
3(1+2).



 Quoting: Forgotten


I don't know whether to laugh or cry at this. Please go show this to your nearest math professor, then quickly dodge.

by your logic (or lack thereof)

a ÷ 1a is the same as writing aa ? For the reasons bolded above?
 Quoting: caper_26

I was like wtf
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You drop the symbol between the 1 and the other number. You dont move over to somewhere else. Come on man, this is pretty straightforward.

3*1÷5 ... 1÷5 is not redudant. but 3*1 is... so you drop the * sign, not the ÷.

3÷5 is the same as above. Dropping the 1 and the symbol BETWEEN.

I thought DUCM was starting to see the light, so I responded. I will vanish now. Thanks for the laughs.

Edit: You are correct about one thing.... This is indeed getting better by the second.

lmao

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2(1+2).......6
______ * _____ = x * 2(1+2)
...1........2(1+2)


36
__ = x * 6

6


6 = x * 6


6
__ = x

6


1 = x

Edit: forgot a step, really don't need it because you can cancel, but nonetheless, for you 9tards.

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For all who dont understand math.

6/2(1+2) - Paranthesis first
6/2(3) - You dont get to do whatever you like to do first here, in an equation you work left to right. Like when you read, you dont start at the end of the sentence and work backwards. That would be STUPID
3(3) - Then you multiply

The Answer is 9.

Such a simple equation that seems to bother even the most critical mind. Ashamed I live in this country sometimes.
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thank you.
the mere fact that this thread is 140 pages is ridiculous.
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PEMDAS

please excuse my dumb ass students

lol
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PEMDAS

please excuse my dumb ass students

lol
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You know this is what teachers were saying in their break room....


rofl
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PEMDAS

please excuse my dumb ass students

lol
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and the answer you discussed over coffee is "9" right??
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PEMDAS

please excuse my dumb ass students

lol
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and the answer you discussed over coffee is "9" right??
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No I proved it was 1, can you at least look at my proof, do the work, and answer honestly? Couple posts up.
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You drop the symbol between the 1 and the other number. You dont move over to somewhere else. Come on man, this is pretty straightforward.

3*1÷5 ... 1÷5 is not redudant. but 3*1 is... so you drop the * sign, not the ÷.

3÷5 is the same as above. Dropping the 1 and the symbol BETWEEN.


 Quoting: Forgotten


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The "dropping symbol between" Law. I cannot argue with you since it is not socially unacceptable to do so with someone who is "special"

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Re: Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ?
(6)/(2)*(1+2)

Add 2 to 1 to get 3.
(6)/(2)*(3)

Reduce the expression (6(3))/(2) by removing a factor of 2 from the numerator and denominator.
3(3)

Multiply 3 by each term inside the parentheses.

=9
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(6)/(2)*(1+2)

Add 2 to 1 to get 3.
(6)/(2)*(3)

Reduce the expression (6(3))/(2) by removing a factor of 2 from the numerator and denominator.
3(3)

Multiply 3 by each term inside the parentheses.

=9
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You separated the (2+1) from the denominator.
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Here is how to rewrite the problem properly when the obelus is used. Notice how they don't change 2x into 2 * x and then use only the 2 for the divisor??

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