## Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ? | |

JamesVIIUser ID: 1718960 United States 03/05/2013 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9. Quoting: With distributive property properly applied. 6÷2*1+6÷2*2= still equals 9. With basic pemdas application. step one "P" (1+2) = 3. step two. From left to right solve any multiplication or division equations. Again from Left to Right. so 6÷2*3 = 9 (Still) Notice how the distributive property is not needed to reach the same absolute answer of 9, but even when applied you still get 9. So 9. thank you basic arithmetic and algebra. =] Zinthaniel If you substitute the plus sign with a multiply, in the parenthesis, what do you get then? Parenthesis are there to determine order. JamesVII A different answer obviously, but I don't get your point. With the distributive property used even with pemdas used in conjunction you still get 9. 6÷2(1+2) 1: "P" 1+2=3 you can choose to leave the 3 in the parentheses if you so choose, but this is not necessary because the parentheses are not relevant at this point. But if you do then you have this. 6÷2(3) Now to distribute, if we must, but why? anyways at this point since only 3 remains in the parentheses we get this 6÷2*3. guess what it still equals 9. Zinthaniel Ok, maybe it's cause of my public education, but I'm going to try to explain what I've learned, and I know it's probably somewhere in the last hundred pages or so, but can you please explain the following: 6/2(1a+2a)= ? when a=1 (6)/2(1a+2a)=? when a=1 6/2(1a+2a)=? when a=2 (6)/2(1a+2a)=? when a=2 Under your theory, these should all be the same, yes? |

JamesVIIUser ID: 1718960 United States 03/05/2013 05:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you substitute the plus sign with a multiply, in the parenthesis, what do you get then? Parenthesis are there to determine order. Quoting: JamesVII 6 Anonymous Coward 3343897 Then what is this: (6)/2(1*2) thought so. thanks. JamesVII The parentheses around the six alone means nothing. All you did is parenthesize a whole number that is already at it's simplest form. So the answer is. 1*2 = 2 now we have 6/2*2= 6 Zinthaniel SO, is there any difference between this: 6/2(1+2) and this? 6/(2+(1+2)) |

ZinthanielUser ID: 35630633 United States 03/05/2013 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9. Quoting: With distributive property properly applied. 6÷2*1+6÷2*2= still equals 9. With basic pemdas application. step one "P" (1+2) = 3. step two. From left to right solve any multiplication or division equations. Again from Left to Right. so 6÷2*3 = 9 (Still) Notice how the distributive property is not needed to reach the same absolute answer of 9, but even when applied you still get 9. So 9. thank you basic arithmetic and algebra. =] Zinthaniel If you substitute the plus sign with a multiply, in the parenthesis, what do you get then? Parenthesis are there to determine order. JamesVII A different answer obviously, but I don't get your point. With the distributive property used even with pemdas used in conjunction you still get 9. 6÷2(1+2) 1: "P" 1+2=3 you can choose to leave the 3 in the parentheses if you so choose, but this is not necessary because the parentheses are not relevant at this point. But if you do then you have this. 6÷2(3) Now to distribute, if we must, but why? anyways at this point since only 3 remains in the parentheses we get this 6÷2*3. guess what it still equals 9. Zinthaniel Ok, maybe it's cause of my public education, but I'm going to try to explain what I've learned, and I know it's probably somewhere in the last hundred pages or so, but can you please explain the following: 6/2(1a+2a)= ? when a=1 (6)/2(1a+2a)=? when a=1 6/2(1a+2a)=? when a=2 (6)/2(1a+2a)=? when a=2 Under your theory, these should all be the same, yes? JamesVII Ok. well If I know the variables value then there is no need for the variable to be in there because I can simply replace it with it's value. So your equations look like this. 6/2(1*1+2*1) At this point Pemdas is applied at the answer is discover through simple arithmetic. Without knowledge of the values of your variable then the distributive property is applied. so: 6/2(1a+2a) Well one the parentheses can be simplified to 3a squared. Then you can do 6/2*3a squared or 3*3a squared. You know there's to many buttons in the world, and they're just begging to be pushed. |

ZinthanielUser ID: 35630633 United States 03/05/2013 05:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The parentheses around the six alone means nothing. All you did is parenthesize a whole number that is already at it's simplest form. So the answer is. 1*2 = 2 now we have 6/2*2= 6 Zinthaniel SO, is there any difference between this: 6/2(1+2) and this? 6/(2+(1+2)) JamesVII Yes there is. Parentheses do in fact denote the order in which the equation is solved. The inner most parentheses comes first. so in this case it is. 1+2 = 3*2 = 6 and then 6/6 = 1 You know there's to many buttons in the world, and they're just begging to be pushed. |

SnakeAirlinesUser ID: 35561930 United States 03/05/2013 05:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is how to rewrite the problem properly when the obelus is used. Notice how they don't change 2x into 2 * x and then use only the 2 for the divisor?? Quoting: [link to i47.tinypic.com] ref: [link to go.hrw.com] The 9ers somewhat understand the order of operations, but it is the algebra that is killing them in the endcaper_26 Yup. "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |

ZinthanielUser ID: 35630633 United States 03/05/2013 05:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is how to rewrite the problem properly when the obelus is used. Notice how they don't change 2x into 2 * x and then use only the 2 for the divisor?? Quoting: [link to i47.tinypic.com] ref: [link to go.hrw.com] The 9ers somewhat understand the order of operations, but it is the algebra that is killing them in the endcaper_26 Yup. SnakeAirlines Nope and nope again. You know there's to many buttons in the world, and they're just begging to be pushed. |

SnakeAirlinesUser ID: 35561930 United States 03/05/2013 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is how to rewrite the problem properly when the obelus is used. Notice how they don't change 2x into 2 * x and then use only the 2 for the divisor?? Quoting: [link to i47.tinypic.com] ref: [link to go.hrw.com] The 9ers somewhat understand the order of operations, but it is the algebra that is killing them in the endcaper_26 Yup. SnakeAirlines Nope and nope again. Zinthaniel Keep trying... It may sink in one day... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |

ZinthanielUser ID: 35630633 United States 03/05/2013 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to i47.tinypic.com] ref: [link to go.hrw.com] caper_26 Yup. SnakeAirlines Nope and nope again. Zinthaniel Keep trying... It may sink in one day... SnakeAirlines =] Try what? You're buddy is referencing the distributive property? yes I can see that. He is now asserting that the use of the distributive property demands that the answer be 1. But that is incorrect. In a common binomial or polynomial equation the distributive property is most commonly used because it's usually the only time is makes since to even bother with it. so we have an equation that looks like this. 4x(3xy-7) No as I'm sure we all know when we parse the units we are not going to isolate the x and distribute it by it's self. It's get distributed along with it's buddy 4. So we end up with this. 12x squared*y - 28x = This same distributive property application is applied to division as well. So we have: 6÷2(1+2) if you are going to use the distributive property, which is not necessary, it looks like this. 6÷2*1+6÷2*2=9 The answer is still and will always be 9. =] You're friend is half right when enforcing this tedious and not required rule on this basic arithmetic equation, only he forgets the 6÷2 are unit together so they have to be distributed together. You know there's to many buttons in the world, and they're just begging to be pushed. |

JamesVIIUser ID: 1718960 United States 03/05/2013 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The parentheses around the six alone means nothing. All you did is parenthesize a whole number that is already at it's simplest form. So the answer is. 1*2 = 2 now we have 6/2*2= 6 Zinthaniel SO, is there any difference between this: 6/2(1+2) and this? 6/(2+(1+2)) JamesVII Yes there is. Parentheses do in fact denote the order in which the equation is solved. The inner most parentheses comes first. so in this case it is. 1+2 = 3*2 = 6 and then 6/6 = 1 Zinthaniel See, I was taught, and succeeded in algebra (their method anyway), that anything adjacent to the parenthesis equation is performed first, before the others, regardless of left to right. I don't think it has anything to do with our English form of the left to right interpretation, however I got a business degree that is absolutely worthless, so what do I know.. hehe. |

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ZinthanielUser ID: 35630633 United States 03/05/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...The parentheses around the six alone means nothing. All you did is parenthesize a whole number that is already at it's simplest form. So the answer is. 1*2 = 2 now we have 6/2*2= 6 Zinthaniel SO, is there any difference between this: 6/2(1+2) and this? 6/(2+(1+2)) JamesVII Yes there is. Parentheses do in fact denote the order in which the equation is solved. The inner most parentheses comes first. so in this case it is. 1+2 = 3*2 = 6 and then 6/6 = 1 Zinthaniel See, I was taught, and succeeded in algebra (their method anyway), that anything adjacent to the parenthesis equation is performed first, before the others, regardless of left to right. I don't think it has anything to do with our English form of the left to right interpretation, however I got a business degree that is absolutely worthless, so what do I know.. hehe. JamesVII Well technically you could do it that way, but the problem is you are isolating the 2 when, in fact, the 6÷2 is a whole unite that needs to be distributed. Technically distributive property can be used in basic arithmetic but there is not point since you are dealing with whole numbers at their simplest form and can be solved with out the use of that property. So yes you are right, but you are applying it wrong. 6÷2 is what is directly adjacent to the parentheses and therefore is what needs to be distributed and therefore making you way of being taught still valid. You know there's to many buttons in the world, and they're just begging to be pushed. |

JamesVIIUser ID: 1718960 United States 03/05/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | =] Try what? You're buddy is referencing the distributive property? yes I can see that. He is now asserting that the use of the distributive property demands that the answer be 1. But that is incorrect. In a common binomial or polynomial equation the distributive property is most commonly used because it's usually the only time is makes since to even bother with it. so we have an equation that looks like this. 4x(3xy-7) No as I'm sure we all know when we parse the units we are not going to isolate the x and distribute it by it's self. It's get distributed along with it's buddy 4. So we end up with this. 12x squared*y - 28x = This same distributive property application is applied to division as well. So we have: 6÷2(1+2)if you are going to use the distributive property, which is not necessary, it looks like this. 6÷2*1+6÷2*2=9 The answer is still and will always be 9. =] You're friend is half right when enforcing this tedious and not required rule on this basic arithmetic equation, only he forgets the 6÷2 are unit together so they have to be distributed together. Zinthaniel I don't think this is correct man. Why are you carrying the 6 into the equation that should be left for only the 2? Damn, I came here to see the article about the unnecessary drones flying over us, and I've now wasted 20 mins debating a plus b equals c. gotta love glp. |

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Anonymous Coward User ID: 35630633 United States 03/05/2013 07:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | =] Try what? You're buddy is referencing the distributive property? yes I can see that. He is now asserting that the use of the distributive property demands that the answer be 1. But that is incorrect. In a common binomial or polynomial equation the distributive property is most commonly used because it's usually the only time is makes since to even bother with it. so we have an equation that looks like this. 4x(3xy-7) No as I'm sure we all know when we parse the units we are not going to isolate the x and distribute it by it's self. It's get distributed along with it's buddy 4. So we end up with this. 12x squared*y - 28x = This same distributive property application is applied to division as well. So we have: 6÷2(1+2)if you are going to use the distributive property, which is not necessary, it looks like this. 6÷2*1+6÷2*2=9 The answer is still and will always be 9. =] You're friend is half right when enforcing this tedious and not required rule on this basic arithmetic equation, only he forgets the 6÷2 are unit together so they have to be distributed together. Zinthaniel I don't think this is correct man. Why are you carrying the 6 into the equation that should be left for only the 2? Damn, I came here to see the article about the unnecessary drones flying over us, and I've now wasted 20 mins debating a plus b equals c. gotta love glp. JamesVII You don't leave the six out. You are isolating the 2, but that's not possible. For instance when using the distributive property when it would be most useful would be in polynomial and binomial equations. They have variables. 4x(x+xy) as we all know 4x= 4*x but you don't isolate the x and then distribute it by it's self like this: 4(x squared + x squared*y) you always keep the 4 and the x together. this also applies to division. so 4/x(x+xy) = 4/x squared + 4/x squared *y) that is how it has always been done. Check any distributive property article explaining it function and application. you can not isolate the 2. the 2 in this instants it equivalent to and is acting as the x in any binomial or polynomial equation. In which the x is never separated when distributed unless it is explicitly alone. Don't believe me check his links: [link to i47.tinypic.com] ref: [link to go.hrw.com] The 9ers somewhat understand the order of operations, but it is the algebra that is killing them in the end caper_26 Notice the x is not be distributed alone, it's not being isolated in the way everyone seems to be isolating the 2 in this instance, it's numerical partner is coming along for the ride. Why would this rule suddenly be dropped in this equation? The 6 has to be distributed along with the 2. So the when done correctly it looks like such: 6÷2*1+6÷2*2=9 |

SnakeAirlinesUser ID: 35561930 United States 03/06/2013 05:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | =] Try what? You're buddy is referencing the distributive property? yes I can see that. He is now asserting that the use of the distributive property demands that the answer be 1. But that is incorrect. In a common binomial or polynomial equation the distributive property is most commonly used because it's usually the only time is makes since to even bother with it. so we have an equation that looks like this. 4x(3xy-7) No as I'm sure we all know when we parse the units we are not going to isolate the x and distribute it by it's self. It's get distributed along with it's buddy 4. So we end up with this. 12x squared*y - 28x = This same distributive property application is applied to division as well. So we have: 6÷2(1+2) if you are going to use the distributive property, which is not necessary, it looks like this. 6÷2*1+6÷2*2=9 The answer is still and will always be 9. =] You're friend is half right when enforcing this tedious and not required rule on this basic arithmetic equation, only he forgets the 6÷2 are unit together so they have to be distributed together. Zinthaniel I did say to keep trying... "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |

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Anonymous Coward User ID: 31263808 United States 06/11/2013 01:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 9. Quoting: With distributive property properly applied. 6÷2*1+6÷2*2= still equals 9. With basic pemdas application. step one "P" (1+2) = 3. step two. From left to right solve any multiplication or division equations. Again from Left to Right. so 6÷2*3 = 9 (Still) Notice how the distributive property is not needed to reach the same absolute answer of 9, but even when applied you still get 9. So 9. thank you basic arithmetic and algebra. =] Zinthaniel If you substitute the plus sign with a multiply, in the parenthesis, what do you get then? Parenthesis are there to determine order. JamesVII A different answer obviously, but I don't get your point. With the distributive property used even with pemdas used in conjunction you still get 9. 6÷2(1+2) 1: "P" 1+2=3 you can choose to leave the 3 in the parentheses if you so choose, but this is not necessary because the parentheses are not relevant at this point. But if you do then you have this. 6÷2(3) Now to distribute, if we must, but why? anyways at this point since only 3 remains in the parentheses we get this 6÷2*3. guess what it still equals 9. Zinthaniel Ok, maybe it's cause of my public education, but I'm going to try to explain what I've learned, and I know it's probably somewhere in the last hundred pages or so, but can you please explain the following: 6/2(1a+2a)= ? when a=1 (6)/2(1a+2a)=? when a=1 6/2(1a+2a)=? when a=2 (6)/2(1a+2a)=? when a=2 Under your theory, these should all be the same, yes? JamesVII The division symbol is not to be construed as necessitating a numerator/denominator relationship. The parenthesis and order of operations supersedes everything else. So, 9. |

Anonymous Coward User ID: 1034800 United States 06/11/2013 02:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the correct answer is 9 parenthesis first and then it goes from left to right 6/2 = 3 1+2 = 3 3*3 =9 [link to en.wikipedia.org] First: Today, parentheses or brackets are used to explicitly denote precedence by grouping parts of an expression that should be evaluated first. Then: The order of operations used throughout mathematics, science, technology and many computer programming languages is expressed here:[2] exponents and roots multiplication and division addition and subtraction This means that if a mathematical expression is preceded by one operator and followed by another, the operator higher on the list should be applied first. Mnemonics (like PEDMAS) may be misleading ...especially if the user is not aware that multiplication and division are of equal precedence, as are addition and subtraction. |

Anonymous Coward User ID: 39030376 United States 06/11/2013 05:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The correct answer is 9. Arithmetic Order of Operations: Rule 1: First perform any calculations inside parentheses. Rule 2: Next perform all multiplications and divisions, working from left to right. Rule 3: Lastly, perform all additions and subtractions, working from left to right. |

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