Math: 6÷2(1+2) = ? | |
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Citizenperth User ID: 32253509 Australia 01/19/2013 05:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nine.. stop it.............. It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 25949545 United States 01/19/2013 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is not 9. It is 1. You stop it. You cannot separate the 2 from (2+1) If you were to separate it the answer would be 6/2 × 2 +1 which would be 7 but the () are gone so 6/(2*2)+(2*1) which is 3.5.... wait that's not right either... Where did you get the idea that you can separate the 2? 2(2+1) = (2+1)+(2+1) = 6 6/6 = 1 If you can explain to me how the 2 is magically separated then I will say 9. The only way to rid the 2 is dividing the whole problem by 2 Which gives 3/(2+1) still equals 1 |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4239460 United States 01/19/2013 06:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is this 131 pages it's basic algebra, parentheses first to simplify the equation. Answer is 1. [link to www.math.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4239460 United States 01/19/2013 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is not 9. It is 1. You stop it. You cannot separate the 2 from (2+1) If you were to separate it the answer would be 6/2 × 2 +1 which would be 7 but the () are gone so 6/(2*2)+(2*1) which is 3.5.... wait that's not right either... Where did you get the idea that you can separate the 2? 2(2+1) = (2+1)+(2+1) = 6 6/6 = 1 If you can explain to me how the 2 is magically separated then I will say 9. The only way to rid the 2 is dividing the whole problem by 2 Which gives 3/(2+1) still equals 1 They get 9 by doing the division first instead of clearing parentheses like you're supposed to. 6/2=3 3(2+1) 3*3=9 durp |
Syrius (OP) User ID: 19364503 United States 01/19/2013 07:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let's fast forward, will there ever be a conclusive answer that everyone agrees on? I don't believe our egos are capable of coming together, ever...which is sad because the language of Mathematics was conceived to be universal, in the grander scheme. Yet, here we are a year later... bickering. The same problem, the same results, some faces familiar... others have just joined the fray. You must ask yourself... because things of this nature have driven good men insane. Perverse, and lost in their thoughts as if they were peddling the newest drug in the lobby. We should resume this discussion with honorable mentions to all the greats. I salute you Pythagoras. His theorem was simple, yet beautiful : a² + b² = c² All around me are familiar faces... Worn out places...Worn out faces... |
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caper_26 User ID: 32057798 Canada 01/19/2013 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Now you have the likes of this guy, who ONLY teaches "left-right", and changes ALL variables like this: 6x²y²z² ÷ 3xyz to 6*x²*y²*z²÷3*x*y*z equals 2x³y³z³ Really?? 6x²y²z² ÷ 3xyz = 2xyz and not 2x³y³z³ because: 6x²y²z² ÷ 3xyz means (6x²y²z²) ÷ (3xyz) for 2 reasons: 1 - a coefficient is part of the term's value, proven below, and as well with the Identity Law. 2 - The obelus is a grouping symbol. (dividend ÷ divisor) Both 1 & 2 agree with each other. Why? Because true math always does, and never conflicts. If it does, then something is wrong. this guy's entire premise is this "2n = 2 * n" But that is not entirely true. You can evaluate 2n by multiplying, but the VALUE 2n must remain the same. You cannot take 6 the expression 6 ÷ 6 and say it is the same as 6 ÷ 2 * 3. It is so absurd it is deafening. This proves that 2n = (2 * n) and you cannot split any value by inserting a times. We need more people to comment on this video, so that his students don't end up retarded... [link to www.youtube.com] "I'm trying to free your mind, Neo. But I can only show you the door. You're the one that has to walk through it." |
Forgotten User ID: 29097718 United States 01/21/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is such a conspiracy in the world that not a SINGLE math site will give you the answer 1. You cant find a single one. They all must be wrong and the few people here that say 1 must be right? EVERY MATH SITE IS WRONG? Is that really what Casper, DUCM, etc are saying? Every single site? [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. Look here. Look how many UP arrows people get for 1. Look how many UP arrows people get for 9. [link to productforums.google.com] Not that is proof, but lines up with this thread. For every 10 people 3 will say 1, 7 will say 9. ALONG WITH EVERY FRIGGIN WEBSITE ABOUT MATH!!! Last Edited by Forgotten on 01/21/2013 10:36 AM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Forgotten User ID: 29097718 United States 01/21/2013 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Solve any multiplication and division in the problem. Note that multiplication does not precede division, this is a common mistake while the fact is that they are solved from left to right as they occur. Quoting: ArticleExample: 5 * 4 - 9 / 3 5 * 4 - 9 / 3 20 - 9 / 3 20 - 9 / 3 20 - 3 [link to www.purplemath.com] This tells you the ranks of the operations: Parentheses outrank exponents, which outrank multiplication and division (but multiplication and division are at the same rank), and these two outrank addition and subtraction (which are together on the bottom rank). When you have a bunch of operations of the same rank, you just operate from left to right. For instance, 15 ÷ 3 × 4 is not 15 ÷ 12, but is rather 5 × 4, because, going from left to right, you get to the division first. Quoting: Article[link to www.eduplace.com] When children initially learn addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, they begin by performing operations on two numbers. But what happens when an expression requires multiple operations? Over time, mathematicians have developed a set of rules called the order of operations to determine which operation to do first. The rules are: Quoting: ArticleMultiply and divide from left to right. Add and subtract from left to right. I can show about 50+ more sites that all show this same thing. But I am sure it is all a conspiracy. 5-4+1= 2 Not 5-4+1=0 6÷2*3=9 Not 6÷2*3=1 (We all agree we do parenthesis first... that much I am sure of) Work from left to right when things are equal. Last Edited by Forgotten on 01/21/2013 10:45 AM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
DUCM900 User ID: 32721565 Italy 01/21/2013 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just get a scientific calculator, do that equation and you'll see that and what all your **** sites are. . Last Edited by IWASTHERE on 01/21/2013 10:50 AM |
Forgotten User ID: 29097718 United States 01/21/2013 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just get a scientific calculator, do that equation and you'll see that all your **** sites are. Quoting: DUCM900 . Still cant find one huh. I am sure they are all conspiring to give the wrong answer. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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Forgotten User ID: 29097718 United States 01/21/2013 10:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You cant find a single one. They all must be wrong and the few people here that say 1 must be right? EVERY MATH SITE IS WRONG? Is that really what Casper, DUCM, etc are saying? Every single site? [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] [link to vimeo.com (secure)] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. [link to simple.wikipedia.org] Solve any multiplication and division in the problem. Note that multiplication does not precede division, this is a common mistake while the fact is that they are solved from left to right as they occur. Quoting: ArticleExample: 5 * 4 - 9 / 3 5 * 4 - 9 / 3 20 - 9 / 3 20 - 9 / 3 20 - 3 [link to www.purplemath.com] This tells you the ranks of the operations: Parentheses outrank exponents, which outrank multiplication and division (but multiplication and division are at the same rank), and these two outrank addition and subtraction (which are together on the bottom rank). When you have a bunch of operations of the same rank, you just operate from left to right. For instance, 15 ÷ 3 × 4 is not 15 ÷ 12, but is rather 5 × 4, because, going from left to right, you get to the division first. Quoting: Article[link to www.eduplace.com] When children initially learn addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, they begin by performing operations on two numbers. But what happens when an expression requires multiple operations? Over time, mathematicians have developed a set of rules called the order of operations to determine which operation to do first. The rules are: Quoting: ArticleMultiply and divide from left to right. Add and subtract from left to right. I can show about 50+ more sites that all show this same thing. But I am sure it is all a conspiracy. Last Edited by Forgotten on 01/21/2013 11:41 AM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Forgotten User ID: 29097718 United States 01/21/2013 10:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just get a scientific calculator, do that equation and you'll see that all your **** sites are. Quoting: DUCM900 . I have done it. It gives 9. If I just use the calculator without changing the equation or settings it gives 9. Last Edited by Forgotten on 01/21/2013 10:49 AM Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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Forgotten User ID: 29097718 United States 01/21/2013 10:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear Forgotten, Quoting: Syrius Please stop posting the exact same reply over and over and over. We get it, you believe everything you find on the internet. Thank you LOL, can you tell everyone else to stop posting the same thing too? Surely the OP doesnt believe the answer is 9. What say you OP?> 9 or 1? Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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Forgotten User ID: 29097718 United States 01/21/2013 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just get a scientific calculator, do that equation and you'll see that all your **** sites are. Quoting: DUCM900 . I have done it. It gives 9. If I just use the calculator without changing the equation or settings it gives 9. Excellent rebuttal. Have clearly proven me wrong. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32715180 Germany 01/21/2013 10:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just get a scientific calculator, do that equation and you'll see that all your **** sites are. Quoting: DUCM900 . I have done it. It gives 9. If I just use the calculator without changing the equation or settings it gives 9. My calculator actually gives me a 1. Still, the only thing it means is, my calculator is wrong. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32547856 United States 01/21/2013 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is such a conspiracy in the world that not a SINGLE math site will give you the answer 1. Quoting: Forgotten You cant find a single one. They all must be wrong and the few people here that say 1 must be right? EVERY MATH SITE IS WRONG? Is that really what Casper, DUCM, etc are saying? Every single site? [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. [link to simple.wikipedia.org] Solve any multiplication and division in the problem. Note that multiplication does not precede division, this is a common mistake while the fact is that they are solved from left to right as they occur. Quoting: ArticleExample: 5 * 4 - 9 / 3 5 * 4 - 9 / 3 20 - 9 / 3 20 - 9 / 3 20 - 3 [link to www.purplemath.com] This tells you the ranks of the operations: Parentheses outrank exponents, which outrank multiplication and division (but multiplication and division are at the same rank), and these two outrank addition and subtraction (which are together on the bottom rank). When you have a bunch of operations of the same rank, you just operate from left to right. For instance, 15 ÷ 3 × 4 is not 15 ÷ 12, but is rather 5 × 4, because, going from left to right, you get to the division first. Quoting: Article[link to www.eduplace.com] When children initially learn addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, they begin by performing operations on two numbers. But what happens when an expression requires multiple operations? Over time, mathematicians have developed a set of rules called the order of operations to determine which operation to do first. The rules are: Quoting: ArticleMultiply and divide from left to right. Add and subtract from left to right. I can show about 50+ more sites that all show this same thing. But I am sure it is all a conspiracy. Maybe there are just different ways to do it and 9 and 1 can both be right. But going by pemdas, I got 9. |
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Forgotten User ID: 29097718 United States 01/21/2013 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe there are just different ways to do it and 9 and 1 can both be right. But going by pemdas, I got 9. Quoting: GuyThat because math has a certain set of rules that must be followed. All the sites are following the rules, and therefore give 9. If you change the rules you will get 1, or 6, or 0. Or some other incorrect answer. But, lets face it. Every website is conspiring to give the wrong answer and DUCM, Casper are correct. Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24516287 United States 01/21/2013 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It is such a conspiracy in the world that not a SINGLE math site will give you the answer 1. Quoting: Forgotten You cant find a single one. They all must be wrong and the few people here that say 1 must be right? EVERY MATH SITE IS WRONG? Is that really what Casper, DUCM, etc are saying? Every single site? [link to imageshack.us] [link to img255.imageshack.us] If someone can show me 1 math website that comes up with 1 I will agree. Even though I can show 10+ websites with 9. I just need 1. One website. [link to simple.wikipedia.org] Solve any multiplication and division in the problem. Note that multiplication does not precede division, this is a common mistake while the fact is that they are solved from left to right as they occur. Quoting: ArticleExample: 5 * 4 - 9 / 3 5 * 4 - 9 / 3 20 - 9 / 3 20 - 9 / 3 20 - 3 [link to www.purplemath.com] This tells you the ranks of the operations: Parentheses outrank exponents, which outrank multiplication and division (but multiplication and division are at the same rank), and these two outrank addition and subtraction (which are together on the bottom rank). When you have a bunch of operations of the same rank, you just operate from left to right. For instance, 15 ÷ 3 × 4 is not 15 ÷ 12, but is rather 5 × 4, because, going from left to right, you get to the division first. Quoting: Article[link to www.eduplace.com] When children initially learn addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, they begin by performing operations on two numbers. But what happens when an expression requires multiple operations? Over time, mathematicians have developed a set of rules called the order of operations to determine which operation to do first. The rules are: Quoting: ArticleMultiply and divide from left to right. Add and subtract from left to right. I can show about 50+ more sites that all show this same thing. But I am sure it is all a conspiracy. Maybe there are just different ways to do it and 9 and 1 can both be right. But going by pemdas, I got 9. No Math is pure 9 is the only answer |
Forgotten User ID: 29097718 United States 01/21/2013 10:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But multiplication and division are on the same level, even the m comes before the d in pemdas. So, from what I know, you would just go from left to right when dealing with mult. And div., leaving you with 9 for the problem. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32547856 :this^^^: [link to simple.wikipedia.org] Quoting: Forgotten Solve any multiplication and division in the problem. Note that multiplication does not precede division, this is a common mistake while the fact is that they are solved from left to right as they occur. Quoting: ArticleExample: 5 * 4 - 9 / 3 5 * 4 - 9 / 3 20 - 9 / 3 20 - 9 / 3 20 - 3 [link to www.purplemath.com] This tells you the ranks of the operations: Parentheses outrank exponents, which outrank multiplication and division (but multiplication and division are at the same rank), and these two outrank addition and subtraction (which are together on the bottom rank). When you have a bunch of operations of the same rank, you just operate from left to right. For instance, 15 ÷ 3 × 4 is not 15 ÷ 12, but is rather 5 × 4, because, going from left to right, you get to the division first. Quoting: Article[link to www.eduplace.com] When children initially learn addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division, they begin by performing operations on two numbers. But what happens when an expression requires multiple operations? Over time, mathematicians have developed a set of rules called the order of operations to determine which operation to do first. The rules are: Quoting: ArticleMultiply and divide from left to right. Add and subtract from left to right. I can show about 50+ more sites that all show this same thing. But I am sure it is all a conspiracy. (We all agree we do parenthesis first... that much I am sure of) Forgotten: Reach me at [email protected] |