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The ABC of Eternal Life in few minutes, Serious

 
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The ABC of Eternal Life in few minutes

This book tries to give an explanation of what is eternal life and where it can be found.
This book offers a reading through several texts starting with the book of Adam and Eve, in quest for knowledge about eternal life. I am a passionate reader of religious texts, old texts with preference and after much reading I think that I have a coherent image about eternal life that I can expose.
It does not matter how many sins anyone has. If he does confessions the sins are erased and he can start a new life. Saint Cyprian was the most important sorcerer in his life, he would probably go straight to Hell. However this did not happen since he turned 360 degrees becoming a great saint. Also, to be saved, is good to strive to save others since whatever you try doing to others will eventually come after you. So this is why you need to go only good.

What is eternal life

In the words of Amazing grace lyrics eternal life may be something like this:

When we've been here ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun.
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we've first begun.
So with eternal life, after ten thousand years of living , you have no less days to sing to God. That is, whatever you do in ten thousand years, there are no less days that you have to live.

Adam and Eve

As we found out in Genesis Adam and Eve were immortal. There was no religion then and no need of religion. They were in communion with God and they lived a happy life. However there was an event happening that made humanity know death. Yes, according with Bible book of Genesis , Adam and Eve have eaten from forbidden fruit . As part of this event two thing happen. Death entered the world and people were expelled from Heaven.

So the religion had appeared with the express duty of bringing man to eternal life and bringing man into Heaven.

Religion has not as ultimate goal gaining powers or showing miracles or giving health or showing brain waves when doing religious activity or giving wisdom. No. The ultimate goal of religion is to lead you back to lost immortality and to heaven. Miracles had happen with Abraham when he had no covenant with God so miracles are not bound by a specific religion.

Our quest will start with the First book of Adam and Eve that has something very interesting into Third Chapter. Basically Third Chapter explains that Word of God will come to save humanity in year 5500 from Creation. Lets look at Chapter Number III:

Here is a link to Chapter III of book of Adam and Eve:
[link to ftp.fortunaty.net]
“Chapter III

Concerning the promise of the great five and a half days
God said to Adam ,”I have ordained on this earth days and years, and thou and thy seed shall dwell and walk in it, until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall send the Word that created thee, and against which thou hast transgressed, the Word that made thee come out of the garden, and then raised thee when thou wast fallen. Yea, the Word that will again save thee when the five and a half are fulfilled.”
But when Adam heard these words from God, and that great five days and a half, he did not understand the meaning of them.
For Adam was thinking that there would be but five days and a half for him, to the end of the world.
And Adam wept, and prayed God to explain it to him.
Then God in His mercy for Adam His own image and similitude, explained to him, that these were 5000 and 500 years; and how One would then come and save him and his seed.
But God had before that made this covenant with our father, Adam, in the same terms, ere he came out of the garden, and gave him to eat.”

So , according with this book, we know that salvation of Adam and humanity will take place in year 5500 from Creation. Since death and expulsion from Heaven were the problems of humanity, I believe that salvation means here regaining of immortality and entrance to Heaven.
“ Yea, the Word that will again save thee when the five and a half are fulfilled”

So there are some questions:

Who will save humanity?
Word of God. See Genesis 15:1 too or Zechariah 12:1

When the humanity will be saved?
In year 5500 from Creation.

What do we know about Word of God?
Based on this book we know that Word of God created Adam “ when I shall send the Word that created thee”. So Word of God lived at the time of Creation and will live at the year 5500 when will save humanity .

Do we know anything about Word of God from Bible
All new Testament speaks about Jesus that tells everybody that he is Word of God.
John 1:14 The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Do we know anything about Word of God from Old Testament?

Yes for example in Genesis 15:1 Word of God appears to The Patriarch Abraham in a dream and promised him a number of descendents like the numbers of the stars.

GEN 15:1 After these things the word of Yahweh came to Abram in a vision, saying, "Don't be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward."
This is Jesus, Word of God that came to Abram in a vision.
In many places we meet Word of God that is Messiah, many places in Old Testament.

ZECH 12:1 An oracle. The word of Yahweh concerning Israel. Yahweh, who stretches out the heavens, and lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him says:

Again , Jesus, or Word of God is presented in Zecharias 12:1. As in Book of Adam and Eve, Word of God is presented as having a very important role in creation.

Who is Word of God

Word of God is part of ONE GOD thus God. If for example you see Johny's hand, you're not saying Johny's hand what are you doing, you call Johny. This is why Word of God being part of ONE God is God and can be Worshiped.

People not believing that Word of God Genesis 15:1 exists or that Spirit of God , Genesis 1:2 , that is part of God too, exists , they contradict Old Testament or Tanakh. You can not believe in Old Testament that writes about Word of God in Genesis 15:1 and in other places and then say Word of God does not exists.

What can we deduct from here?
That salvation may not exist before year 5500. That all religious leaders before 5500 did not bring salvation and eternal life. Also we know that all religious leaders that have started a religion after year 5500 may not bring salvation. That I believe includes eternal life.
We can deduct more. We can deduct that all people not belonging to the religion started in year 5500 from Creation , while in comma or near death experience may visit Hell.


Now we have to ask the following questions:
Was anybody in our history declaring to be Word of God?
When did he came on Earth?

The only person in the Universe declaring to be Word of God was Jesus and according with the Septuagint he came in year 5500 from Creation.
To date creation the book that came into mind is The Old Testament. However there are two versions that give different dates of creation and two dates of when year 5500 have occurred. Because most of early Church writers used the Septuagint, the other version being used starting with more than 800 years later, we will want to use Septuagint in our calculation. According with Septuagint , creation has started in around year 5500BC. That is , according with Septuagint , Jesus had come in year 5500 from Creation. The meaning of name Jesus is “The Lord is the Savior”.

According with Masoretic texts, and with Bibles based on Masoretic texts found on some Protestant denominations , salvation, that is eternal life and entrance to heaven should have happen in year 1500BC. However nothing of such nature happen and nobody claiming to be Word of God came at that time.

So, we have arrived at the conclusion that the best way of finding eternal life is to look at the work of Jesus and at Christianity.

Was eternal life available before Jesus?

To respond to this question we can take a look to old religions that were started before year 5500 from Creation.

Ancient Greek

In ancient Greek religion souls would go after death in the underworld . Based on ancient Greek religion, nothing is specified about eternal life or entrance to heaven. Underworld by containing a place to punishment, I believe we can probably make the assumption that it is not heaven. This is what some ancient Greeks may have expect to happen before Christianity.

Ancient Roman

In ancient Roman religion the place of the souls of dead people was also the underworld.

Judaism

According with Wikipedia for the word Sheol the following is the belief: In Judaism She'ol is the earliest conception of the afterlife in the Jewish Scriptures. It is a place of darkness to which all dead go regardless of the moral choices made in life and where they are "removed from the light of God" (see the Book of Job).

I hope you understand the “regardless of the moral choices made in life” part. That is good or bad , direction Hell. Hell or Hades or Sheol for sorcerers is worst, named Tartarus.

Keep in mind that most Eastern Religions, rei ki, tai ki, yoga, Hinduism are witchcraft. And these religions give you a chance to worst part of Hell . Yoga and Hinduism have in their Holy Book , magic. Mantrik in Sanskrit means sorcerer or magician and from here comes mantra. Sure yoga does not mention what it means when it teaches you to do mantras. The demons of yoga and Hinduism lure you with a good concern for your health, lure you with some wisdom to attract into Tartarus .

Reading the descriptions of Hinduists that came from near death experience , to one of them the legs were cut from under the knees . So very disturbing stories from Hell. So people doing yoga, budhism, rei ki, tai ki, if Hell is not something you would like as destination, stop right now. [link to www.spiritualforums.com]
For bad and for good people Sheol is not the same. Huge difference however, still Sheol not heaven.

I believe that Old Judaism of the Prophets does not exist anymore. New Judaism sees Old Testament through two new other books and Christianity sees Old Testament through New Testament book. New holy book = new religion.


Christianity


The souls departs from body, where is he going?
[link to www.youtube.com] Where you can get not being baptized, in old Greek pagan religion, and in other religions beside CHRISTIANITY: [link to www.youtube.com] Where you can get after being baptized:
[link to www.youtube.com]
Orthodox Christianity is the right denomination. No other denomination, no other religion comes closer and this is WHY GOD sends Holy Light form Heaven every year only to orthodox Christians. Once I wanted to become Protestant and I was praying to God to show me which of the 30 000 Protestant denominations is the right one. A thought came, Orthodox Christianity is the best way of salvation and this is why I am sending the Holy Light to them. As a believer in God you are requested to put your hope in God. Pray this:

“Dear God please force me to salvation and please give me an understanding of all religions on the Earth.”


Christianity is not the same, protestantism for example having renounced the food for eternal life, Holy Communion, John 6:54, replacing it with symbols, meal for remembrance, words, nothing, so if eternal life is IMPORTANT for you, orthodox Christian is your name. Since this book is about eternal life, is important to describe this.

JN 6:53 Jesus therefore said to them, "Most certainly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you don't have life in yourselves.
JN 6:54 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
See, the above verses are a blow to Protestantism. So Holy Eucharist is necessary for ETERNAL LIFE. Yes, Holy Eucharist from ORTHODOX CHURCH. However Protestantism dares replace it with a simple food, with symbols, words or NOTHING.

JN 6:56 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood lives in me, and I in him.
See, this is it. People are coming from mud and from God. Through Holy Eucharist , Word of God is coming into you and you get closer to God . God is going to live in you and you will get ETERNAL LIFE.

So, why in the world would want somebody to run to Protestantism that replace this Holy Communion , this chance of man to be closer to God, with NOTHING or WORDS or meal of remembrance?

According with Christianity Word of God had come in year 5500 from Creation and he had given salvation to people as the book of Adam and Eve said.

John 1 is the place where Jesus is presented as being the Word of God.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Now we have an excellent book named Gospel of Nicodemus. This is a link to this book: [link to www.earlychristianwritings.com] Here we see the chapter regarding the descent of Jesus in Hell. Two people, dead hundreds years before Jesus came, were in Sheol at the time of Jesus descent and they tell their story, what had happen in Hell when Jesus descended, in the work named Gospel of Nicodemus. This story is in the last part named “The descent into Hell”.

In this description, Seth , the son of Adam has described what Archangel Michael had told him while he was praying to get some oil from the Garden of Heaven:
“And I say unto thee, Seth, vex not thyself with tears, praying and entreating for the oil of the tree of mercy, that thou mayest anoint thy father Adam for the pain of his body: for thou wilt not be able to receive it save in the last days and times, save when five thousand and five hundred (al. 5,952) years are accomplished: then shall the most beloved Son of God come upon the earth to raise up the body of Adam and the bodies of the dead, and he shall come and be baptized in Jordan. And when he is come forth of the water of Jordan, then shall he anoint with the oil of mercy all that believe on him, and that oil of mercy shall be unto all generations of them that shall be born of water and of the Holy Ghost, unto life eternal. Then shall the most beloved Son of God, even Christ Jesus, come down upon the earth and shall bring in our father Adam into paradise unto the tree of mercy.”

In the end of this paragraph we see that Jesus will bring:
- eternal life
-”and that oil of mercy shall be unto all generations of them that shall be born of water and of the Holy Ghost, unto life eternal.”
- entrance to heaven
-”Then shall the most beloved Son of God, even Christ Jesus, come down upon the earth and shall bring in our father Adam into paradise unto the tree of mercy.”

From the discussion that emerges we see who is the author of sickness and that some souls escaped Hell by prayers to God. Since this is not our focus we go forward.

So in Hell we find David, Isaiah, Adam, Eve, Seth, Patriarchs and Holy Men:
“he cried out to Seth his son, saying: Declare unto thy sons the patriarchs and the prophets


So what does it mean. It means that even if people were exceedingly righteous like David, Isaiah and Patriarchs and Prophets, this was not enough to go to Heaven. So before year 5500 probably there was not much salvation for people. Now things are certainly different even for people in Hell.

In gospel of Nicodemus, one man had said that he saw Jesus telling his disciples:

“Go into all the world and preach unto every creature (the whole creation): he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned”

So we see that according with the Gospel of Nicodemus, once the year 5500 had come, disbelief in the Word of God can bring condemnation.

This is what we find in the New Testament, so even people that believe Jesus is Prophet and believe in the Book of Bible should pay attention to this:

JN 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God!
I don't say I understand the exact meaning of John 3:5 . What John 3:5 may say is that without baptism people can have trouble entering the Kingdom of God or Heaven and this may explain why David and Isaiah and Abraham were into hell when Jesus came. I can not explain as to why Enoch and Elijah entered heaven, maybe they were baptized by Word of God in heaven.

If you believe that just by your work you are fine, think if you are cleaner than Isaiah that spoke with God or better than David the Prophet. Above all these qualities you need baptism to enter Heaven and Holy Communion to have eternal life.

Word of God, Christianity and Salvation

Where are the teachings of the Word of God recorded?

The teachings of Word of God are recorded in a book called New testament. Regarding entrance to heaven we have John 3:5 in my understanding is stating that without baptism, one can not see the Kingdom of Heaven.

It occurs to me the declaration of one Christian from a mixed village with many Muslims and Christians and while he visited Heaven he saw just one former Muslim. He asked Jesus why the Muslim was there and Jesus said that this Muslim asked for Jesus to come on his dead bed and he asked Jesus to take him like the Thief on the Cross.

So we see that Word of God links seeing the Kingdom of God by being baptized.

Word of God and eternal life

Eternal life , the purpose of this book , is specifically described in the New Testament in John chapter 6 in versed 6:53-54. Basically people are asked to eat the Holy Eucharist for eternal life.
People are made from mud and from God. They can go into 2 directions, either toward mud through death and disobedience either to God through Holy Eucharist. John 6 explains that by eating Holy Eucharist , eternal life is restored to people and people will move toward God and immortality . John 6 explains that by eating Holy Eucharist God will dwell within man thus man will obtain eternity.

Eternal life in Early Church

From early Church writings we know that on Sundays, Christians celebrated Holy Liturgies centered on Holy Eucharist for eternal life. This was made clear into Holy Liturgy. It was not Eucharist for remembrance but for eternal life.
We have the Holy Liturgy of Apostle James believed to be written in year 60 and Holy Liturgy of Apostle and Evangelist Matthew and Holy Liturgies of many apostles , all centered not on sermon, not on living well and doing good that alone can not move you to heaven but on Holy Eucharist for eternal life.


Today in Orthodox Church , established by Jesus in year 33, we have the same Holy Liturgies centered on giving Eucharist for eternal life. Teachings of Christianity were given by Word of God and Orthodox Christianity is recognized for keeping these teachings unaltered. As a recognition of this, Holy Light miracle comes yearly to the celebration of Easter done by Eastern Orthodox Christians on the exact place of Jesus resurrection. Other miracles that happens yearly , inherited from Early Church are: Jordan river returning to origins on the day of baptism of Jesus , on the exact place were Jesus was baptized. It is said that on the day of the baptism of Jesus, nature recognized him as the Word of God and the river Jordan bowed down flowing backward to origins. There are countless other miracles that happen today in Eastern orthodox Church from Early Church including the annual apparition of cloud on Mount Tabor on the day of transfiguration.

Eternal Life in Protestant Churches

For 1000 years maybe Protestants ancestors were in Orthodox Church. Then several hundred years they come to Roman Catholic Church and several hundred years to new invention called Protestantism. So coming back to Eastern Orthodox Church means coming home, to the Home Church.
Appearing after 1500 looks like protestant Churches have replaced Holy Eucharist for eternal life with symbols, words, a meal for remembrance instead of Holy Eucharist for eternal life, words or nothing. If eternal life is important for you and you don't want to gamble with it, maybe the Eucharist given by the Eastern Orthodox Church is the SAFEST way to obtain it.

Conclusion

As a conclusion I believe that eternal life is neither in the fountain of youth , neither in a miraculous object, but is in the Eastern Orthodox Church nearby. Sometime you can find eternal life by crossing the street and receiving Holy Eucharist. However, we should never forget that entrance to heaven may be considered based on baptism.
Where eternal life is , is surely known by God so don't hesitate to say this:
Dear God , please force me to salvation, eternal life and heaven and open my understanding of all religions on the Earth.









































APPENDIX


Appendix A
This is maybe one of the most important information you get in your life so please pay attention and understand it.
Lets start with this again:
The souls departs from body, where is he going?
[link to www.youtube.com] Where you can get not being baptized, in old Greek pagan religion:
[link to www.youtube.com] Where you can get after being baptized:
[link to www.youtube.com]
JN 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God!
Life on Earth does have a meaning. Basically is one more chance to correct the choice made by Adam and Eve. It is one more chance to get out of prison or jail Hell, Hades or Sheol. Also is one more chance to escape death and to eat from the tree of eternal life. Eastern Orthodox Christianity offers you both.

Through Baptism Eastern Orthodox Christianity gives you a change to get out of Hell into Heaven. John 3:5
Through food for eternal life , Holy Communion described in John 6:54 , you can get back IMMORTALITY lost in Garden of Eden. You may not find Holy Communion for eternal life in Protestantism, being replaced by symbols , a simple meal for remembrance , words or nothing. Protestant denominations that have something that externally looks like Holy Communion tell you directly that is a symbol and a meal for remembrance.
If you did not made the right choice YET and don't plan to be baptized, then God have mercy on you even if you are as virtuous as King David and spoke with God as many times as prophet Isaiah. Without baptism, both prophet David and prophet Isaiah together with Abraham and Patriarchs were found in Sheol that is Hell.
If you did make the right choice and have been baptized and have taken food for eternal life or Holy Communion, then it is good for you to keep fighting to got o Heaven in good standing condition and to make for you a situation in heaven.
Fighting is the right word because you have many terrific opponents, the sick angels, former good angels appointed by God to help people . They are so powerful , that smallest of them can break down the Earth.
You can scream they can scream louder. You can run, they can run faster. You can think they can outsmart you. So basically much of what you can do, they can do better.
From Gospel of Nicodemus
“1 And while all the saints were rejoicing, behold Satan the prince and chief of death said unto Hell: Make thyself ready to receive Jesus who boasteth himself that he is the Son of God, whereas he is a man that feareth death, and sayeth: My soul is sorrowful even unto death. And he hath been much mine enemy, doing me great hurt, and many that I had made blind, lame, dumb, leprous, and possessed he hath healed with a word: and some whom I have brought unto thee dead, them hath he taken away from thee.”

See who is giving dumbness, sickness and others? Sick angel.

As you see , The sick angel has the power to make people lame, dumb, leprous and possesed by the spirits. Sick. He knows that if you sin, you give him more power. More sin = more power to sick angel to make you dumb, stupid, leprous and with other sicknesses. With sorcery the power given to sick angel is so great that sick angel can take sorcerers alive in Sheol.

So, everything looks lost , sick angel being more powerful than you.

This is not so. Through the decision in garden of Eden, sick angel has obtained power over people and was successfully raising a wall of forgetfulness between people and God. He knows that once you know about God and ask God for help EVERYTHING is lost for him and you are free.

So, what do you need to tear down the wall between God and you so you can obtain help in salvation ?
Simply you just need to pray to God, your Father. There is very bad for man that does put his hope in yourself. In Old testament I believe is said that this man is cursed. Because not tearing down the wall between God and himself and not asking for help through prayer, this man is at the mercy of sick angel that can send to him sickness, dumbness, possession by sick spirits and make his life very miserable.

VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT:

So, what are the most important things in your life, things that define you: salvation, marriage, the school you follow, the job you are going to have, the salvation of your children, parents, relatives, world, the well being of your country, of Creation.
If it does not occur to you to pray for these to God, the sick angel may do whatever he wants with every one of them. Don’t fool yourself that this does not happen and that in fact you can choose everything you want for what is the most important to you. No, you can not choose and if you choose without God , sick angel may choose chooses actually for you. The thoughts that “YOU” have and that determine what “YOU” choose , can be yours or come either from God or from sick angel. So not asking God for help in these matters, means leaving sick angel free path tchoose for you. Truly yours are the tears that will follow.


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It is much to say. Hopefully you will take eternal life. We are here to make the choice of Adam and Eve, to turn it back and since year 5500 from Creation eternal Life is avaible every Sunday in an Eastern Orthodox Church near yiou.
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Adam and Eve were warned about "the knowledge of good and evil" which is JUDGEMENT.

Non-Judgement is Unconditional Love. THE "KEY"!!!

When Jesus died, he also mentioned Forgiveness (non-judgement).

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The ABC of Eternal Life in few minutes

This book tries to give an explanation of what is eternal life and where it can be found.
This book offers a reading through several texts starting with the book of Adam and Eve, in quest for knowledge about eternal life. I am a passionate reader of religious texts, old texts with preference and after much reading I think that I have a coherent image about eternal life that I can expose.
It does not matter how many sins anyone has. If he does confessions the sins are erased and he can start a new life. Saint Cyprian was the most important sorcerer in his life, he would probably go straight to Hell. However this did not happen since he turned 360 degrees becoming a great saint. Also, to be saved, is good to strive to save others since whatever you try doing to others will eventually come after you. So this is why you need to go only good.

What is eternal life

In the words of Amazing grace lyrics eternal life may be something like this:

When we've been here ten thousand years
Bright shining as the sun.
We've no less days to sing God's praise
Than when we've first begun.
So with eternal life, after ten thousand years of living , you have no less days to sing to God. That is, whatever you do in ten thousand years, there are no less days that you have to live.

Adam and Eve

As we found out in Genesis Adam and Eve were immortal. There was no religion then and no need of religion. They were in communion with God and they lived a happy life. However there was an event happening that made humanity know death. Yes, according with Bible book of Genesis , Adam and Eve have eaten from forbidden fruit . As part of this event two thing happen. Death entered the world and people were expelled from Heaven.

So the religion had appeared with the express duty of bringing man to eternal life and bringing man into Heaven.

Religion has not as ultimate goal gaining powers or showing miracles or giving health or showing brain waves when doing religious activity or giving wisdom. No. The ultimate goal of religion is to lead you back to lost immortality and to heaven. Miracles had happen with Abraham when he had no covenant with God so miracles are not bound by a specific religion.

Our quest will start with the First book of Adam and Eve that has something very interesting into Third Chapter. Basically Third Chapter explains that Word of God will come to save humanity in year 5500 from Creation. Lets look at Chapter Number III:

Here is a link to Chapter III of book of Adam and Eve:
[link to ftp.fortunaty.net]

“Chapter III

Concerning the promise of the great five and a half days
God said to Adam ,”I have ordained on this earth days and years, and thou and thy seed shall dwell and walk in it, until the days and years are fulfilled; when I shall send the Word that created thee, and against which thou hast transgressed, the Word that made thee come out of the garden, and then raised thee when thou wast fallen. Yea, the Word that will again save thee when the five and a half are fulfilled.”
But when Adam heard these words from God, and that great five days and a half, he did not understand the meaning of them.
For Adam was thinking that there would be but five days and a half for him, to the end of the world.
And Adam wept, and prayed God to explain it to him.
Then God in His mercy for Adam His own image and similitude, explained to him, that these were 5000 and 500 years; and how One would then come and save him and his seed.
But God had before that made this covenant with our father, Adam, in the same terms, ere he came out of the garden, and gave him to eat.”

So , according with this book, we know that salvation of Adam and humanity will take place in year 5500 from Creation. Since death and expulsion from Heaven were the problems of humanity, I believe that salvation means here regaining of immortality and entrance to Heaven.
“ Yea, the Word that will again save thee when the five and a half are fulfilled”

So there are some questions:

Who will save humanity?
Word of God. See Genesis 15:1 too or Zechariah 12:1

When the humanity will be saved?
In year 5500 from Creation.

What do we know about Word of God?
Based on this book we know that Word of God created Adam “ when I shall send the Word that created thee”. So Word of God lived at the time of Creation and will live at the year 5500 when will save humanity .

Do we know anything about Word of God from Bible
All new Testament speaks about Jesus that tells everybody that he is Word of God.
John 1:14 The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Do we know anything about Word of God from Old Testament?

Yes for example in Genesis 15:1 Word of God appears to The Patriarch Abraham in a dream and promised him a number of descendents like the numbers of the stars.

GEN 15:1 After these things the word of Yahweh came to Abram in a vision, saying, "Don't be afraid, Abram. I am your shield, your exceedingly great reward."
This is Jesus, Word of God that came to Abram in a vision.
In many places we meet Word of God that is Messiah, many places in Old Testament.

ZECH 12:1 An oracle. The word of Yahweh concerning Israel. Yahweh, who stretches out the heavens, and lays the foundation of the earth, and forms the spirit of man within him says:

Again , Jesus, or Word of God is presented in Zecharias 12:1. As in Book of Adam and Eve, Word of God is presented as having a very important role in creation.

Who is Word of God

Word of God is part of ONE GOD thus God. If for example you see Johny's hand, you're not saying Johny's hand what are you doing, you call Johny. This is why Word of God being part of ONE God is God and can be Worshiped.

People not believing that Word of God Genesis 15:1 exists or that Spirit of God , Genesis 1:2 , that is part of God too, exists , they contradict Old Testament or Tanakh. You can not believe in Old Testament that writes about Word of God in Genesis 15:1 and in other places and then say Word of God does not exists.

What can we deduct from here?
That salvation may not exist before year 5500. That all religious leaders before 5500 did not bring salvation and eternal life. Also we know that all religious leaders that have started a religion after year 5500 may not bring salvation. That I believe includes eternal life.
We can deduct more. We can deduct that all people not belonging to the religion started in year 5500 from Creation , while in comma or near death experience may visit Hell.


Now we have to ask the following questions:
Was anybody in our history declaring to be Word of God?
When did he came on Earth?

The only person in the Universe declaring to be Word of God was Jesus and according with the Septuagint he came in year 5500 from Creation.
To date creation the book that came into mind is The Old Testament. However there are two versions that give different dates of creation and two dates of when year 5500 have occurred. Because most of early Church writers used the Septuagint, the other version being used starting with more than 800 years later, we will want to use Septuagint in our calculation. According with Septuagint , creation has started in around year 5500BC. That is , according with Septuagint , Jesus had come in year 5500 from Creation. The meaning of name Jesus is “The Lord is the Savior”.

According with Masoretic texts, and with Bibles based on Masoretic texts found on some Protestant denominations , salvation, that is eternal life and entrance to heaven should have happen in year 1500BC. However nothing of such nature happen and nobody claiming to be Word of God came at that time.

So, we have arrived at the conclusion that the best way of finding eternal life is to look at the work of Jesus and at Christianity.

Was eternal life available before Jesus?

To respond to this question we can take a look to old religions that were started before year 5500 from Creation.

Ancient Greek

In ancient Greek religion souls would go after death in the underworld . Based on ancient Greek religion, nothing is specified about eternal life or entrance to heaven. Underworld by containing a place to punishment, I believe we can probably make the assumption that it is not heaven. This is what some ancient Greeks may have expect to happen before Christianity.

Ancient Roman

In ancient Roman religion the place of the souls of dead people was also the underworld.

Judaism

According with Wikipedia for the word Sheol the following is the belief: In Judaism She'ol is the earliest conception of the afterlife in the Jewish Scriptures. It is a place of darkness to which all dead go regardless of the moral choices made in life and where they are "removed from the light of God" (see the Book of Job).

I hope you understand the “regardless of the moral choices made in life” part. That is good or bad , direction Hell. Hell or Hades or Sheol for sorcerers is worst, named Tartarus.

Keep in mind that most Eastern Religions, rei ki, tai ki, yoga, Hinduism are witchcraft. And these religions give you a chance to worst part of Hell . Yoga and Hinduism have in their Holy Book , magic. Mantrik in Sanskrit means sorcerer or magician and from here comes mantra. Sure yoga does not mention what it means when it teaches you to do mantras. The demons of yoga and Hinduism lure you with a good concern for your health, lure you with some wisdom to attract into Tartarus .

Reading the descriptions of Hinduists that came from near death experience , to one of them the legs were cut from under the knees . So very disturbing stories from Hell. So people doing yoga, budhism, rei ki, tai ki, if Hell is not something you would like as destination, stop right now. [link to www.spiritualforums.com]

For bad and for good people Sheol is not the same. Huge difference however, still Sheol not heaven.

I believe that Old Judaism of the Prophets does not exist anymore. New Judaism sees Old Testament through two new other books and Christianity sees Old Testament through New Testament book. New holy book = new religion.


Christianity


The souls departs from body, where is he going?
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Where you can get not being baptized, in old Greek pagan religion, and in other religions beside CHRISTIANITY: [link to www.youtube.com]
Where you can get after being baptized:
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Orthodox Christianity is the right denomination. No other denomination, no other religion comes closer and this is WHY GOD sends Holy Light form Heaven every year only to orthodox Christians. Once I wanted to become Protestant and I was praying to God to show me which of the 30 000 Protestant denominations is the right one. A thought came, Orthodox Christianity is the best way of salvation and this is why I am sending the Holy Light to them. As a believer in God you are requested to put your hope in God. Pray this:

“Dear God please force me to salvation and please give me an understanding of all religions on the Earth.”


Christianity is not the same, protestantism for example having renounced the food for eternal life, Holy Communion, John 6:54, replacing it with symbols, meal for remembrance, words, nothing, so if eternal life is IMPORTANT for you, orthodox Christian is your name. Since this book is about eternal life, is important to describe this.

JN 6:53 Jesus therefore said to them, "Most certainly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you don't have life in yourselves.
JN 6:54 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.
See, the above verses are a blow to Protestantism. So Holy Eucharist is necessary for ETERNAL LIFE. Yes, Holy Eucharist from ORTHODOX CHURCH. However Protestantism dares replace it with a simple food, with symbols, words or NOTHING.

JN 6:56 He who eats my flesh and drinks my blood lives in me, and I in him.
See, this is it. People are coming from mud and from God. Through Holy Eucharist , Word of God is coming into you and you get closer to God . God is going to live in you and you will get ETERNAL LIFE.

So, why in the world would want somebody to run to Protestantism that replace this Holy Communion , this chance of man to be closer to God, with NOTHING or WORDS or meal of remembrance?

According with Christianity Word of God had come in year 5500 from Creation and he had given salvation to people as the book of Adam and Eve said.

John 1 is the place where Jesus is presented as being the Word of God.

John 1:14 The Word became flesh, and lived among us. We saw his glory, such glory as of the one and only Son of the Father, full of grace and truth.

Now we have an excellent book named Gospel of Nicodemus. This is a link to this book: [link to www.earlychristianwritings.com]
Here we see the chapter regarding the descent of Jesus in Hell. Two people, dead hundreds years before Jesus came, were in Sheol at the time of Jesus descent and they tell their story, what had happen in Hell when Jesus descended, in the work named Gospel of Nicodemus. This story is in the last part named “The descent into Hell”.

In this description, Seth , the son of Adam has described what Archangel Michael had told him while he was praying to get some oil from the Garden of Heaven:
“And I say unto thee, Seth, vex not thyself with tears, praying and entreating for the oil of the tree of mercy, that thou mayest anoint thy father Adam for the pain of his body: for thou wilt not be able to receive it save in the last days and times, save when five thousand and five hundred (al. 5,952) years are accomplished: then shall the most beloved Son of God come upon the earth to raise up the body of Adam and the bodies of the dead, and he shall come and be baptized in Jordan. And when he is come forth of the water of Jordan, then shall he anoint with the oil of mercy all that believe on him, and that oil of mercy shall be unto all generations of them that shall be born of water and of the Holy Ghost, unto life eternal. Then shall the most beloved Son of God, even Christ Jesus, come down upon the earth and shall bring in our father Adam into paradise unto the tree of mercy.”

In the end of this paragraph we see that Jesus will bring:
- eternal life
-”and that oil of mercy shall be unto all generations of them that shall be born of water and of the Holy Ghost, unto life eternal.”
- entrance to heaven
-”Then shall the most beloved Son of God, even Christ Jesus, come down upon the earth and shall bring in our father Adam into paradise unto the tree of mercy.”

From the discussion that emerges we see who is the author of sickness and that some souls escaped Hell by prayers to God. Since this is not our focus we go forward.

So in Hell we find David, Isaiah, Adam, Eve, Seth, Patriarchs and Holy Men:
“he cried out to Seth his son, saying: Declare unto thy sons the patriarchs and the prophets


So what does it mean. It means that even if people were exceedingly righteous like David, Isaiah and Patriarchs and Prophets, this was not enough to go to Heaven. So before year 5500 probably there was not much salvation for people. Now things are certainly different even for people in Hell.

In gospel of Nicodemus, one man had said that he saw Jesus telling his disciples:

“Go into all the world and preach unto every creature (the whole creation): he that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that disbelieveth shall be condemned”

So we see that according with the Gospel of Nicodemus, once the year 5500 had come, disbelief in the Word of God can bring condemnation.

This is what we find in the New Testament, so even people that believe Jesus is Prophet and believe in the Book of Bible should pay attention to this:

JN 3:5 Jesus answered, "Most certainly I tell you, unless one is born of water and spirit, he can't enter into the Kingdom of God!
I don't say I understand the exact meaning of John 3:5 . What John 3:5 may say is that without baptism people can have trouble entering the Kingdom of God or Heaven and this may explain why David and Isaiah and Abraham were into hell when Jesus came. I can not explain as to why Enoch and Elijah entered heaven, maybe they were baptized by Word of God in heaven.

If you believe that just by your work you are fine, think if you are cleaner than Isaiah that spoke with God or better than David the Prophet. Above all these qualities you need baptism to enter Heaven and Holy Communion to have eternal life.

Word of God, Christianity and Salvation

Where are the teachings of the Word of God recorded?

The teachings of Word of God are recorded in a book called New testament. Regarding entrance to heaven we have John 3:5 in my understanding is stating that without baptism, one can not see the Kingdom of Heaven.

It occurs to me the declaration of one Christian from a mixed village with many Muslims and Christians and while he visited Heaven he saw just one former Muslim. He asked Jesus why the Muslim was there and Jesus said that this Muslim asked for Jesus to come on his dead bed and he asked Jesus to take him like the Thief on the Cross.

So we see that Word of God links seeing the Kingdom of God by being baptized.

Word of God and eternal life

Eternal life , the purpose of this book , is specifically described in the New Testament in John chapter 6 in versed 6:53-54. Basically people are asked to eat the Holy Eucharist for eternal life.
People are made from mud and from God. They can go into 2 directions, either toward mud through death and disobedience either to God through Holy Eucharist. John 6 explains that by eating Holy Eucharist , eternal life is restored to people and people will move toward God and immortality . John 6 explains that by eating Holy Eucharist God will dwell within man thus man will obtain eternity.

Eternal life in Early Church

From early Church writings we know that on Sundays, Christians celebrated Holy Liturgies centered on Holy Eucharist for eternal life. This was made clear into Holy Liturgy. It was not Eucharist for remembrance but for eternal life.
We have the Holy Liturgy of Apostle James believed to be written in year 60 and Holy Liturgy of Apostle and Evangelist Matthew and Holy Liturgies of many apostles , all centered not on sermon, not on living well and doing good that alone can not move you to heaven but on Holy Eucharist for eternal life.


Today in Orthodox Church , established by Jesus in year 33, we have the same Holy Liturgies centered on giving Eucharist for eternal life. Teachings of Christianity were given by Word of God and Orthodox Christianity is recognized for keeping these teachings unaltered. As a recognition of this, Holy Light miracle comes yearly to the celebration of Easter done by Eastern Orthodox Christians on the exact place of Jesus resurrection. Other miracles that happens yearly , inherited from Early Church are: Jordan river returning to origins on the day of baptism of Jesus , on the exact place were Jesus was baptized. It is said that on the day of the baptism of Jesus, nature recognized him as the Word of God and the river Jordan bowed down flowing backward to origins. There are countless other miracles that happen today in Eastern orthodox Church from Early Church including the annual apparition of cloud on Mount Tabor on the day of transfiguration.

Eternal Life in Protestant Churches

For 1000 years maybe Protestants ancestors were in Orthodox Church. Then several hundred years they come to Roman Catholic Church and several hundred years to new invention called Protestantism. So coming back to Eastern Orthodox Church means coming home, to the Home Church.
Appearing after 1500 looks like protestant Churches have replaced Holy Eucharist for eternal life with symbols, words, a meal for remembrance instead of Holy Eucharist for eternal life, words or nothing. If eternal life is important for you and you don't want to gamble with it, maybe the Eucharist given by the Eastern Orthodox Church is the SAFEST way to obtain it.

Conclusion

As a conclusion I believe that eternal life is neither in the fountain of youth , neither in a miraculous object, but is in the Eastern Orthodox Church nearby. Sometime you can find eternal life by crossing the street and receiving Holy Eucharist. However, we should never forget that entrance to heaven may be considered based on baptism.
Where eternal life is , is surely known by God so don't hesitate to say this:
Dear God , please force me to salvation, eternal life and heaven and open my understanding of all religions on the Earth.

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We should not forget that Jesus brought not only teachings to Earth, he brought:
Food for eternal life
Entrance to heaven through baptism.

The teachings including non judgment are important but if you did not get food for immortality or did not get baptized, you have not realized mujch in thiss life.
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Where to find food for eternal life on Earth, the complete story is in first posting.
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This is where we need to go:
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