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FEMA is bullying small kansas town over LEVEE!!! FEMA demands to drill into it and inspect it, OR ELSE!!!

 
T. Wills
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FEMA is bullying small kansas town over LEVEE!!! FEMA demands to drill into it and inspect it, OR ELSE!!!
(This is six days ago, what the hell are they doing????)

(DID FEMA JUST SAY THE INSPECTIONS BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS ARE NOT THOUROUGH????)

[link to peabodykansas.com]

Levee inspection regulationss worry Florence council

By BEN KLEINE

Staff writer

Florence City Council members met Monday for a work session.

The main issue the council discussed was the certification of Florence’s levee on the Cottonwood River.

With Marion County having been mapped in the Federal Emergency Management Agency flood map, FEMA officials told council members April 5 that the levee needs to be certified by a professional engineering firm.

Florence officials contacted Wilson and Company in Salina and found that the beginning of the levee inspection could cost the city $50,000; when the inspection is completed, it could cost as much as $250,000, council member Trayce Warner said. If the engineering company that inspects the levee makes suggestions to improve the levee, FEMA may require the city to make those improvements before it will approve the levee as being able to withstand a 100-year flood.

“We can’t come up with $100,000 to certify the dike,” council member Randy Mills said.

To raise the funds for the inspection, the council would have to pass a bond issue, raising taxes for citizens.

“Our property owners are on a fixed income,” Warner said.

FEMA’s requirement of an inspection conducted by an outside engineering company perplexes the council because the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers inspects the levee every year. The corps’ inspection of the levee was completed for this year. Mills said the corps of engineers said the levee was structurally sound. The corps did suggest the removal of the Fifth Street bridge because the bridge collects fallen trees that can block the flow of water.

Mills and Warner said they were told by FEMA that the corps inspection was not as thorough as an inspection conducted by outside engineers. Warner said engineers would drill into the levee to access its structural integrity and would access the level of the riverbed in terms of silt buildup.


FEMA’s Kansas City office external affairs specialist Josh DeBerg said Florence has two years to conduct an inspection of the levee and send the documentation to FEMA.

Another option the council discussed was to ignore FEMA’s demand. The consequence for this potential decision would be the city would not appear to have a levee on Marion County flood maps.

While Florence would still have the levee and would not be worse off in case of a torrential flood, all Florence residents and business owners would occupy buildings which then fall into the flood plain territory, DeBerge said.

Being in a flood plain would require residents to purchase flood insurance. DeBerge said national flood insurance — provided through the National Flood Insurance Plan — can cost as much as $200 to $300 per year on the low end of coverage or as much as several thousands of dollars depending on the type of building insured.

With many other Kansas cities in the same bind as Florence, a coalition of city officials and lawmakers will meet May 19 in Overland Park. The goal is to eventually influence federal lawmakers to change FEMA’s policy to allow Army Corps of Engineers annual inspection to be enough for 100-year flood certification.

Council member John Swarm will attend the May 19 meeting. Mayor Mary Shipman also asked City Clerk Janet Robinson to draft a letter of support and send it to the coalition. The council also talked about drafting a letter to send to Florence residents explaining the situation, but decided against any letter until after the May 19 meeting.

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FEMA’s requirement of an inspection conducted by an outside engineering company perplexes the council because the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers inspects the levee every year. The corps’ inspection of the levee was completed for this year. Mills said the corps of engineers said the levee was structurally sound. The corps did suggest the removal of the Fifth Street bridge because the bridge collects fallen trees that can block the flow of water.

Mills and Warner said they were told by FEMA that the corps inspection was not as thorough as an inspection conducted by outside engineers. Warner said engineers would drill into the levee to access its structural integrity and would access the level of the riverbed in terms of silt buildup.
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WTF are these people doing? Bump FFS.
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Now we know how the holes got drilled in the Birds Point Levee so quickly, they were ALREADY THERE!

I wonder if FEMA inspected that levee recently???

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How deep would FEMA drill? Drilling has such a potential for consequences - something could be placed in the hole---
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...like the Charges used on the birds point? it was liquid explosive.
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But they're running around blowing stuff up in the NMSZ while the Mississippi is flooding?

lmao

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FEMA is out of fucking control, but I fear this is just a prelude of what is yet to come.
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FEMA is telling the council that the Army Corps basically do not know what the hell they are doing.
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FEMA is telling the council that the Army Corps basically do not know what the hell they are doing.
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Yep. As they're blowing up levies on the overfilled Mississippi in the New Madrid area. Nice.
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They are out of control. who is really in charge, ha!

Thread: HUGE URANIUM ENRICHMENT FACILITY is on NEW MADRID FAULTLINE and near FLOOD ZONE!!! WTF!!!!

Look where the hell this is!!!???....WHAT THE F!!!

The Paducah Gaseous Diffusion Plant in Paducah, Kentucky, is the only U.S.-owned uranium enrichment facility in the United States.

[link to www.usec.com]


Smack dab in the middle of all of this flooding and fault lines.
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WTF are these people doing? Bump FFS.
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This gonna happen all over.
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MODS where are any THREADS PINNED ABOUT THE LEVEE AND HEARTLAND FLOODING?
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FEMA’s requirement of an inspection conducted by an outside engineering company perplexes the council because the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers inspects the levee every year. The corps’ inspection of the levee was completed for this year. Mills said the corps of engineers said the levee was structurally sound. The corps did suggest the removal of the Fifth Street bridge because the bridge collects fallen trees that can block the flow of water.

Mills and Warner said they were told by FEMA that the corps inspection was not as thorough as an inspection conducted by outside engineers. Warner said engineers would drill into the levee to access its structural integrity and would access the level of the riverbed in terms of silt buildup.
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Taxpayers now expected to pay twice? Why doesnt FEMA just do its mandated job- thoroughly?
Instead they want to bring in their Blackwater saboteurs so that there is no govt accountability or oversight? (yet we pay for it)

i'd fight this like a hawk if you are the town fathers.
not reassuring.
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FEMA is out of fucking control, but I fear this is just a prelude of what is yet to come.
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FEMA IS AT FAULT, FEMA IS AT FAULT......!!!
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They should throw them down there instead of valuable sand bags to block the water.
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MODS where are any THREADS PINNED ABOUT THE LEVEE AND HEARTLAND FLOODING?
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WTF are these people doing? Bump FFS.
 Quoting: Bigbayou87


It's an extortion racket, obviously.

Big Bro is broke, so he's sending out his FEMA minions to shake down all these little towns for money.
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FEMA is telling the council that the Army Corps basically do not know what the hell they are doing.
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And FEMA DOES know what they're doing?

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