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The Lost Books of the Bible - Jesus killed people during his teenage years, missing from scriptural texts. Is Christ also Lucifer?

 
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What do you know about that?

Yes, in fact many passages that were originally included in the bible were later taken out during revisions. I guess that missing period of Jesus from being an adolescent right up until his death was good enough for you weekend Christians huh? Never thought to research or look too deep into WHY there was never any information? Along with 500+ other missing books, texts and precepts?

Oh, there was...in fact there was QUITE a bit of detail about it. Of course though, it opened up more QUESTIONS than ANSWERS. The last thing the faith wants you to do is question anything...hmmm?

I went to Catholic School for 12 years, and was forced to study the bible for an hour per day 5 days a week. Along with other religions as well. When I asked the priest or deacon these questions, I was either simply not responded to or was considered a "disruption" in class.

You want to debate this? I see many "christians" on this site who are listeners of repeaters. Which means you listen to a repeater who listened to someone else. Form your own judgement and look at the facts so you can see the bigger picture.

"The "lost books" are part of the apocrypha, quasibiblical works not included in the official Bible. There are several dozen of these, dating from both Old and New Testament eras and exhibiting considerable variety in length, completeness, and credibility. A few of these were considered inspired in some corners of the early church but were ultimately excluded from the formal canon for one reason or another; the remainder, which account for the bulk of the material, have always been regarded as spurious by the mainstream church and include works condemned as heretical or fraudulent.

The homicidal-Jesus stories come from something known as the Infancy Gospel of Thomas. Several versions of the Infancy Gospel have come to light, dating back to about the sixth century AD; all are copies of earlier texts."

[link to www.straightdope.com]

Murder:
When the Lord Jesus was coming home in the evening with Joseph, he met a boy who ran so hard against him, that he threw him down; To whom the Lord Jesus said `As thou hast thrown me down, so shalt thou fall, nor ever rise.' And that moment the boy fell down and died." (I infancy, Ch. XIX, vv. 22-24)

Blindness:
2:11 Then the parents of the dead boy went to Joseph and complained, saying, You are not fit to live with us in our city, having such a boy as that: 12 Either teach him that he bless and not curse, or else depart with him, for he kills our children. 13 [New paragraph in the oldest extant manuscripts] Then Joseph calling the boy Jesus by himself, instructed him saying, Why do you such things to injure the people so that they hate us and persecute us? 14 But Jesus replied, I know that what you say is not of yourself, but for your sake I will say nothing; 15 But they who have said these things to you will suffer everlasting punishment. 16 And immediately they who had accused him became blind.

Making inanimate objects come to life:
1:4 Then he took from the bank of the stream some soft clay and formed out of it twelve sparrows; and there were other boys playing with him. 5 But a certain Jew seeing the things which he was doing, namely, his forming clay into the figures of sparrows on the Sabbath day, went presently away and told his father Joseph, 6 Behold, your boy is playing by the river side, and has taken clay and formed it into twelve sparrows, and profanes the Sabbath. 7 Then Joseph came to the place where he was, and when he saw him, called to him, and said, Why do you that which is not lawful to do on the Sabbath day? 8 Then Jesus clapping together the palms of his hands, called to the sparrows, and said to them: Go, fly away; and while you live rmember me. 9 So the sparrows fled away, making a noise.

The Infancy Gospel of Thomas

[link to www.gnosis.org]
 Quoting: HardTruth


There is a hidden doctrine in the bible, it shows that Jesus and Lucifer are actually one and the same.

The only place where Lucifer is mentioned is in Isaiah 14, and nearly every verse dedicated to him in that chapter can also be applied to Jesus:

The mythical Lucifer fell from heaven to earth and was made as weak as one of us - the same can be said of Jesus.

The name "Lucifer" means "morning star" - Jesus reveals he is the Morning Star in Revelations 22:16.

Lucifer claimed he would ascend into heaven and be like the most High, so did Jesus. But Lucifer would descend into Hell, BUT that's where Jesus allegedly spent the first 3 days following his crucifixion.

Lucifer does not open the house of his prisoners, Jesus himself is said to hold the keys of hell and death but most people don't know that. Guess what??? He has no plans to ever let his prisoners go free.

Lucifer is cast out of his grave like an abominable branch, yet Jesus is descended from the abominable branch of Jeconiah and is also cast from his grave???

Just some strange connotations to think about but we need to keep cleaning this mirror. Some nasty smudges over the centuries have really buried themselves in here deep.

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I had 2 stars in less than a minute, with only a 1 rating. Seems like the shills are out in full effect, no way they could have even read the article.

Wow, this really brings you all out of the woodwork huh?
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I´ll give you a 5* just for being rebellious against any patriarchy.
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Re: The Lost Books of the Bible - Jesus killed people during his teenage years, missing from scriptural texts. Is Christ also Lucifer?
I went to Catholic School for 12 years,
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Thus your ignorance about the Bible. The pope does not believe the Bible. The Roman Church goes by tradition, or paganism.

The early Christians (not Catholics) rejected these gnostic books. (if they were even written at the time)
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I went to Catholic School for 12 years,
 Quoting: Vukodlak


Thus your ignorance about the Bible. The pope does not believe the Bible. The Roman Church goes by tradition, or paganism.

The early Christians (not Catholics) rejected these gnostic books. (if they were even written at the time)
 Quoting: Ka 1368459


Actually the Roman Catholic church says the bible is based off 2 things: TRADITION AND SCRIPTURE.

This idea comes from a misunderstanding of Matthew 16:17-18 . To understand this passage correctly we need to consider two statements made by the apostle Paul about the foundation of the church.

First, he declared that the body of Christ is "built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone" ( Ephesians 2:20 ). In these verses Paul clearly portrayed Jesus Christ as the cornerstone, and the apostles and prophets as foundation stones fitted around and upon Him.

Second, in 1 Corinthians 3:10-11 Paul referred to himself as a builder erecting a superstructure on Jesus Christ, who is the foundation of the church. Neither of these passages indicates that Peter is the foundation of the church. As one of the apostles, he is included, but he receives no special recognition.

Next.

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What utter Bullshit, no wnder it was thrown out, it was a total fabrication, a retard can see that.
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What utter Bullshit, no wnder it was thrown out, it was a total fabrication, a retard can see that.
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Some of these were written as early as 300-500AD. That has no relevance? It is called keep all the good stuff in, keep the questionable stuff out.
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Re: The Lost Books of the Bible - Jesus killed people during his teenage years, missing from scriptural texts. Is Christ also Lucifer?
Like it or not, when you are a God you have the power of life and Death. He exercised that power.

But seriously, I would be far more concerned about the billions that will die to the hands of Angels and the Second in the coming Armageddon.

This is how it is. In this Universe you are very, very weak.

I have tried to explain to many that if there is one thing to be thankful for it is that the most powreful beings in the Universe are "loving" and give you a chance.

Be righteous, and good and decent and they will save you.

Ignore them and you will be destroyed.

Animals are culled all the time by humans. Why do you think more powerful entities would treat you any differently?
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That's bullshit.
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Re: The Lost Books of the Bible - Jesus killed people during his teenage years, missing from scriptural texts. Is Christ also Lucifer?
What utter Bullshit, no wnder it was thrown out, it was a total fabrication, a retard can see that.
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PS

I like what you had to say about the Red Tie and ring on middle finger, dead on in that assesment of satanic infiltrators in the church. Good observation.
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That's bullshit.
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Thanks for all the information to back up your statement.
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Re: The Lost Books of the Bible - Jesus killed people during his teenage years, missing from scriptural texts. Is Christ also Lucifer?
there were no books written about Jesus while he was growing up. I see this stuff periodically over the years, and it's all not true. I have asked him myself personally. He had a right to kill in self defense however, or defense of family, there would be nothing out of order with that. He generally simply interrupted fights between kids and let them settle down.
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What do you know about that?
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There was made a movie about his youth based on:

[link to www.imdb.com]
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I went to Catholic School for 12 years,
 Quoting: Vukodlak


Thus your ignorance about the Bible. The pope does not believe the Bible. The Roman Church goes by tradition, or paganism.

The early Christians (not Catholics) rejected these gnostic books. (if they were even written at the time)
 Quoting: Ka 1368459


Actually the Roman Catholic church says the bible is based off 2 things: TRADITION AND SCRIPTURE.

This idea comes from a misunderstanding of Matthew 16:17-18 . To understand this passage correctly we need to consider two statements made by the apostle Paul about the foundation of the church.

First, he declared that the body of Christ is "built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone" ( Ephesians 2:20 ). In these verses Paul clearly portrayed Jesus Christ as the cornerstone, and the apostles and prophets as foundation stones fitted around and upon Him.

Second, in 1 Corinthians 3:10-11 Paul referred to himself as a builder erecting a superstructure on Jesus Christ, who is the foundation of the church. Neither of these passages indicates that Peter is the foundation of the church. As one of the apostles, he is included, but he receives no special recognition.

Next.
 Quoting: Vukodlak


Paul didn't understand the mission of Jesus very well and created a LOT of bullshit. this can be seen in his epistles, even as they stand in modern language and the corruption over time from translations and the like. And who is misunderstanding what, all people interpret stuff according to their knowledge and experience.
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What do you know about that?
 Quoting: Vukodlak


There was made a movie about his youth based on:

[link to www.imdb.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1334686


Interesting, have never seen this movie I may need to check it out later. I am out for a bit don't flame me too bad but check out the info., and do some more research for yourselves if you don't believe it.
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I had 2 stars in less than a minute, with only a 1 rating. Seems like the shills are out in full effect, no way they could have even read the article.

Wow, this really brings you all out of the woodwork huh?
 Quoting: Vukodlak


Frankly, it's pathetic to even notice how many stars you have, and it's even more pathetic to whine about it and call people shills. You know that you're attacking some people's religious beliefs with this thread. If you want to appear confident in your posts, at least try not to be a crybaby.

That said, I'm an agnostic (I don't believe in any god and don't care) but I find the subject of the apocrypha fascinating, much the same way I find ancient greco-roman and norse mythology fascinating. Thank you for starting the thread.
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good story

Jesus was a bad ass when he wanted or needed to be . I think I like him more now . Fuck with me and I will rip off your head and spit down your bloody neck , with my cross on my chain ,
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I had 2 stars in less than a minute, with only a 1 rating. Seems like the shills are out in full effect, no way they could have even read the article.

Wow, this really brings you all out of the woodwork huh?
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I would say these "lost books" were written by people like you....unbelievers.
Same with gnostic texts.
Funny how you will believe bullshit rather than truth.
Jesus said only his sheep would hear, so don't feel too bad.
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Victor Manure starred in a 1950's movie about these books called "The Rage of the Christ"
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there were no books written about Jesus while he was growing up. I see this stuff periodically over the years, and it's all not true. I have asked him myself personally. He had a right to kill in self defense however, or defense of family, there would be nothing out of order with that. He generally simply interrupted fights between kids and let them settle down.
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I see this stuff periodically over the years, and it's all not true. I have asked him myself personally.

Original poster, I take back what I said about you being a crybaby and whining. It's completely understandable when you have to deal with some batshit insane weirdo like this.

Forgive? hf
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Paul didn't understand the mission of Jesus very well and created a LOT of bullshit. this can be seen in his epistles, even as they stand in modern language and the corruption over time from translations and the like. And who is misunderstanding what, all people interpret stuff according to their knowledge and experience.
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cruise

Yea, it's Paul that misunderstands, not you.

Funny how you Paul haters never can back up YOUR bullshit.
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Paul didn't understand the mission of Jesus very well and created a LOT of bullshit. this can be seen in his epistles, even as they stand in modern language and the corruption over time from translations and the like. And who is misunderstanding what, all people interpret stuff according to their knowledge and experience.
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cruise

Yea, it's Paul that misunderstands, not you.

Funny how you Paul haters never can back up YOUR bullshit.
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Dude. She asked jesus himself, personally. Over coffee, undoubtedly at a local coffee shop and not Starbucks, because that would be, you know, unholy.
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this is nothing new, most christians believe the gospel of thomas to be blasphemy. in the wriings of magdelane it is acknowledged that jesus taught his disciples esoteric teachings, it is also believed jesus attented the mystery schools in egypt in his early childhood. Just as he has the power to give life he also has he power to take life. Most Christians know this much.
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there were no books written about Jesus while he was growing up. I see this stuff periodically over the years, and it's all not true. I have asked him myself personally. He had a right to kill in self defense however, or defense of family, there would be nothing out of order with that. He generally simply interrupted fights between kids and let them settle down.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


I see this stuff periodically over the years, and it's all not true. I have asked him myself personally.

Original poster, I take back what I said about you being a crybaby and whining. It's completely understandable when you have to deal with some batshit insane weirdo like this.

Forgive? hf
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Paul didn't understand the mission of Jesus very well and created a LOT of bullshit. this can be seen in his epistles, even as they stand in modern language and the corruption over time from translations and the like. And who is misunderstanding what, all people interpret stuff according to their knowledge and experience.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


cruise

Yea, it's Paul that misunderstands, not you.

Funny how you Paul haters never can back up YOUR bullshit.
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Dude. She asked jesus himself, personally. Over coffee, undoubtedly at a local coffee shop and not Starbucks, because that would be, you know, unholy.
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I ask Jesus because of my telepathy, and when I am aboard craft. He wouldn't meet at a star bucks, he glows a bit too much for the customers there.
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I ask Jesus because of my telepathy, and when I am aboard craft. He wouldn't meet at a star bucks, he glows a bit too much for the customers there.
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Stop posting your LIES, you stupid homo!!
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The Infancy Gospel of Thomas

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I had 2 stars in less than a minute, with only a 1 rating. Seems like the shills are out in full effect, no way they could have even read the article.

Wow, this really brings you all out of the woodwork huh?
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You believe everything you read on the internet?
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I had 2 stars in less than a minute, with only a 1 rating. Seems like the shills are out in full effect, no way they could have even read the article.

Wow, this really brings you all out of the woodwork huh?
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You believe everything you read on the internet?
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I ask Jesus because of my telepathy, and when I am aboard craft. He wouldn't meet at a star bucks, he glows a bit too much for the customers there.
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Stop posting your LIES, you stupid homo!!
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Curious...is Nobody in Particular male or female?

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