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Gun Control
1. The Second Amendment reads, "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."
2. The wording of this Amendment has been scrutinized under a microscope by scholars, lawyers, and judges more than any other, except maybe the Fourth Amendment. The spirit of the Amendment is a reminder that the balance of power between a government and its people must be maintained. History has shown time and time again, especially in modern times that the citizens of a free nation must be able to create change within their own government through peaceful means, and as a last resort, through aggressive means.
3. For the US to create excessive control over ownership of guns, would give the government absolute power over Americans. We would be at the complete will of our own government when in fact the government is meant to be at the absolute will of its people.
4. Remember that the Founding Fathers were skeptical and leery of government. Some didnít expect the Constitution or the United States to last as long as it has. Thomas Jefferson believed that revolution within government was a natural and healthy thing for the well-being of any free nation to remain free. Note that Iím not advocating any sort of rebellion against the government. In fact the United States government has never acted in a way which would warrant violent action against it.
5. Reasonable measures to keep weapons out of unsafe situations should of course exist in any civilized society. Safety locks, permits for ownership, waiting periods, and background checks should remain enacted at state levels. Guns should also remain banned on civilian government property such as colleges and schools, and for civilian possession in areas where it raises public safety issues, such as on commercial airplanes. People convicted of violent crimes, illegal aliens, and those found to be mentally unstable should not be allowed to carry or own guns. Handgun possession bans are unconstitutional. All of these guidelines are reasonable.
6. At the state and local levels of government, gun control should follow along community standards. Any weapons banned for private possession should also be considered for being banned for use by law enforcement and military use within the United States. This serves the important purpose of maintaining the balance of power between the American government and American citizens.
7. Many people raise the question of if the Constitutionís authors intended the right to bear arms for individuals or just the militia. That argument coupled with the scrutiny of the 2nd Amendment is a classic example of not seeing the forest for the trees. The obsession and debate for all things 2nd Amendment could be continued forever, but the fact remains that Americans have been blessed by our Founding Fathers, whether intentional or not, with the ability to maintain the balance of power between our government and its people, an ability which must be protected. Now this isnít to say that the original intention of the Founding Fathers isnít important, but times have changed since the birth of the Constitution, particularly the governmentís unprecedented control over a citizenís life.
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Healthcare
1. Fully support the plan called Physicians for a National Health Program. It is a universal health care program.

2. The plan would cover every American.

3. This program would be financed by retaining all the money already funneled to Medicare and Medicaid. The difference between current public funding and what we would need for universal coverage would be financed by a payroll tax on employers of about 7% and an income tax on individuals of about 2%. The payroll tax would replace all other employer expenses for coverage. The income tax would take the place of all current insurance premiums, co-pays, deductibles, and all other out of pocket expenses.

4. Over 31% of every health care dollar goes to paperwork, overhead, CEO salaries, profits, and other non-clinical costs. Under this plan the non-clinical cost would be greatly reduced. Medicare, a government program, rather than private program, operates with just 3% of non-clinical costs.

5. Because of the efficiency of this heath coverage, there will be job cut backs on a massive scale in the insurance sector. Because of this there will be a transitional fund set up to help those people find and train for a new job. Other details of this plan can be found at www.pnhp.org
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Immigration
1. Mandate the use of ID cards for every legal American who wishes to work or seeks government assistance. Such cards would contain biometric information, as to make it difficult to forge. Hiring people with no ID card would constitute a felony. This would be the only íwallí we would need to keep undocumented people out of the country. There would be people who would still hire workers with no ID card, but if we actually enforced the law enough times that would come to an early end.

2. Hire more judges, prosecutors, and law enforcement for the sole purpose of prosecuting people who hire people with no work ID card.

3. Increase funding and manpower for the Border Patrol. As of 2007 the budget for it was 7.8 billion dollars. That number should be pushed up to 15 billion.

4. In order for illegal immigrants to become legal residents, they must pay all due back taxes, starting with Social Security.

5. Illegals already here would be on a path to citizenship, based on conditions to be a decided by a think tank of philosophers, scholars, and government officials.

6. Reinforce English as the official language of the United States. Other countries such as Switzerland do have a multilingual society, but what works in Europe doesnít always work in America. If Americans refused to adopt the Metric System, then itís unlikely theyíd adpot another language.

7. Oppose the construction of any physical barrier between the United States and its neighbors. The United States does not need another Berlin Wall or Great Wall of America. The worst way to fix a 21st century problem is with a 13th century solution. Rather a vitual fence should be built along the American border.
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Much of this was done through the stimulus bill.

Infrastructure
1. We inherit a world not of our making. We came from a generation named the Builders (1900-1930s). Our American ancestors managed to develop an entire country in 200 years. They did what it takes other nations thousands of years do to. To put it mildly, most worked themselves to death. This all occurred over 60 years ago and what they built isnít going to last forever. Already much of it is falling apart and itís our duty to maintain it. People who laid down plans for our infrastructure 100 years ago could not have come close to imagining what kind of world was over the horizon and what demands would be made. 2 trillion dollars spent over a 10 to 20 year period is needed to accomplish whatís laid out here. This platform has drawn upon a study done by the American Society of Civil Engineers.

2. The FAA projects a 52% increase in demand for air travel between now and 2015. $9-$15 billion is needed to enable airports to meet that demand.

3. 27% of the 590,750 bridges in America are structurally deficient, like the one that collapsed in Minnesota. It will take $9.4 billion a year over 20 years to upgrade our bridges.

4. Every year there are dam failures such as the Silver Lake Dam in Michigan which failed in 2003 and caused $100 million in property damage and economic loss. There are now over 10,000 dams in America which have high-hazard potential like this one. $10.1 billion is needed over 10 years to address all critical non-federal dams.

5. The EPA estimates that $161 billion must be invested over 20 years to upgrade our drinking water system. Every day 6 billion gallons of water is lost because of old, leaky pipes. Thatís enough water to serve Californiaís needs.

6. The electric power grid must invest $50 billion over 5 years to ensure reliability of our energy delivery. The government should also look at burying power lines in wind and winter weather prone areas. The cost of burying power lines is about $1 million per mile so we canít afford to bury EVERY power line in America as that would cost over $2 trillion alone.

7. 350,000 chemically contaminated waste sites may need to be cleaned up over the next 30 years at a cost of $250 billion.

8. Congress needs to clear up the backlog of repairs and upgrades needed for our inland waterway locks.

9. Since this platform calls for using more rail over trucks for freight, more investment in railway maintenance is needed, around $200 billion over the next 20 years.

10. Nearly $140 billion each year is lost by motorists because of vehicle repairs, operating costs, wasted time in traffic, wasted fuel, and money lost because of wrecks caused by poor road maintenance. All the money that has or is going into highway widening should be put into repairing roads. As you can read under "Environment", this platform calls for a moratorium on highway widening.

11. The EPA estimates that $390 billion spent by 2020 is needed to fix the problem of the 850 billion gallons of raw sewage being dumped into our waters every year.
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Abortion
1. Abortion, as it may be viewed by many as religiously wrong, is still a political right. The government must uphold a womanís right to choose, yet the government should not promote abortions.

2. Surgical abortion should not be covered under universal healthcare. In 2001 the average charge for a surgical abortion at 10-weeksí gestation was $468. That cost must not be placed on taxpayers by any level of government. 74% of women pay for their own abortions. The only exception would be in cases of rape, incest, or life endangerment to the mother.

3. Dispel the myth that the "morning-after pill" is the same as the "abortion pill".

4. 24% of US pregnancies end in abortion. Contraceptive education and availability should be a priority in curbing the number of abortions.

5. As universal healthcare should not cover abortions, the government should not fund agencies which seek to sway a womanís opinion away from abortions.
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Affirmative Action
1. Affirmative action must be a carefully-used tool to maintain diversity. It should not be used as a permanent solution for the problem of discrimination.

2. Some regions exist in the United States where affirmative action must remain in place in order to maintain equality. Other regions could achieve diversity without affirmative action laws.

3. To address this imbalance, a government committee as unbiased as possible created at the state level should be set up to investigate affirmative action needs, effectiveness, and to perform follow-ups on a district-by-district and company-by-company basis.

4. Affirmative action should not only be applied to race. It should be applied in a way which results in a proportional representation of gender, race, economic background, and any other clearly apparent factor which results in a disadvantage to any group of people.

5. Follow-ups where affirmative action has been taken out of play are essential. Studies show a tendency for such places to shift once again to a disproportionate workplace, student body, etc.

6. Affirmative action should remain temporary because long-term use of it leads to envy. It can actually place an accent on oneís minority when what we strive to achieve a society with no barriers. Affirmative action is a societyís way of being intentionally right after centuries of being intentionally wrong, and hopefully in a short amount of time that habit of being right will hold firm.
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Agriculture

1. When this country was formed agriculture was how nearly everyone made a living, and every Americanís life depended upon agriculture. Over time Americaís top-notch business efficiency became married with agriculture, and the result was the most effective farming country the world has ever seen. At the time of Americaís inception, over 80% of Americans lived on a farm, in the 1930s it was 25%, and now in 2008 itís only 2%. Because of this we donít hear much about agriculture in politics. That marriage of business and agriculture produced miraculous abundance, but with it came all the bad trappings of business which our government must address.

2. Our government provides tens of billions of dollars every year for farmers to grow certain crops. After adjusting for inflation, youíll find that most crop prices have been in decline for many years. This isnít due entirely to government subsidies. Some people say that the government should completely phase out subsidies to agriculture. That would be a horrible move for two reasons. One: it would leave many small farmers bankrupt and large corporations would buy them out faster than the present rate. Two: it would cause the prices of meat, wheat, rice, corn, and most other foods to fluctuate worse than oil prices ever have; because those prices would be at the mercy of huge unknowns such as chaotic weather.

3. So agriculture subsidies arenít a bad thing, but the way in which they are distributed is. The Dept. of Agriculture stated in 2003 that 30% of subsidies went to the largest 6% of growers. Subsidies help the farm OWNERS, but not always the actual farm workers themselves, the people who work the land Ė and Iíve done it Ė it can be back-breaking work yet so satisfying. The large corporate agriculture businesses arenít bad because they bring us food at low prices in a very efficient manner, but at times they can be seen as crowding out the small-time farmer.

4. Price supports by the government for agriculture should always remain strong and in place, but the subsidies the government gives out to some large self-sufficient agricultural corporations could be trimmed back. Better supply management by businesses and better supply recommendations on the governmentís part should be enacted.

5. Withdrawing from NAFTA must be a priority; because Mexican farmers canít compete with cheap American government-funded corn and other products. This only makes Mexican local economies poorer and adds to Americaís illegal immigration problem. Also withdrawing from the World Trade Organization (WTO) would end its meddling in domestic agriculture and help farmers in developing nations to better determine their futures.

6. Americans consume 200 pounds of meat per year. This must wind down. The entertainment industry should make vegetarianism trendier. You may have heard the report that the gas produced from animals causes more global warming than humans do, yet itís still the actions of humans by over breeding animals for food which is causing increased climate change. This paradigm shift would save billions across the board. The rain forest is being cleared for animal domestication, and that should end too.

7. Agriculture training in schools should be increased, as you can read under "Education" naturalistic intelligence is an importunate factor. Children need to go outside and into nature more often to explore. This causes inspiration and creativity. The pioneer spirit in America is lost and MUST be rediscovered.
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You've got some good stuff there Chris. Maybe you'll be able to bring about the "CHANGE" everyone was so desperate for the last time around.



P.S. I used to work at McDonalds and Subway too. Good times!!
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This is like a game. Do you think the OP accidentally showed us his hand when he told us he works for the FP? Does anyone think they can play this question & answer game with the false prophet and come out on top?
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Eh, to an extent... but yes you have a good point; play with fire for too long and you get burned. I was kind of blown away that he gave us his full name and FB and myspace accounts... that opens him up to a lot.
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Enough for now. Digest all that. More later.

I know you're thinking "Oh dear God, so much text!" But the solution to something like education doesn't fit on a bumper sticker. Sorry.
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My eyes! Burning walls of text!

Just kidding.

We'll read it!

Keep posting that good stuff.
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No way in Hell you've read and synthesized all that info.

Enough for now. Digest all that. More later.
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I have a healthy appetite though.

Still hungry for more knowledge!
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Since birth. =P
But if you mean when was I possessed, 2003.

This is exactly what the US government did. I posted this on April 2nd, 2008 on MySpace, before Obama was even President. It's still there if you're skeptical. I actually wrote it in November 2007.
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When did your sponsors pick you?

I can't remember it you have mentioned that or not.
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Earthquakes 7.0 or higher occur 15 times per year on average. 4.1% chance of it happening today. Let's try for one! =D
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To The Watches Who Play: Try for 7.0 or + earthquake today
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To The Watches Who Play: Try for 7.0 or + earthquake today
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damnit. . .
To The Watchers Who Play: Try for 7.0 or + earthquake today
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Because the Elites could go on every news outlet tomorrow and announce their plans for the next 5 years, and the plans would still be successfully carried out. The story would capture everyone's attention until 3 hours later when, say, Britney Spears shaved her head again and had a threesome w/ 2 underage boys. Thank God for ADHD societies.
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It will do if you will air it as you do with all the crap on the media and will keep on saying that for a month or two instead of throwing 1 glimpse for 3 minutes as a weather forecast every now and then. And it all still is a theory. The only reason it is not done yet is that you are afraid that too many people will "wake up" and start thinking.

P.S. About laws you've posted. Laws are made when a man don't know how to solve a problem. More laws you make - more problems there will be. It's all about concept you approach life. Satanic approach will have 1 set of laws, human approach will have another. It's not about the laws. It's about concept you follow in your life. If you really would want to make a change - you would change the way the people think, not a box that they live in into a different box. moshpit sheep
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lol does it matter? It probably won't happen anyway since I'm just WANTING it and not trying to make it.

To The Watches Who Play: Try for 7.0 or + earthquake today
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Northern or Southern Hemisphere?
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So ermm where you want an earthquake? =P Don't say you wouldn't want one somewhere, cause we all know you would.

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How about pigs flying? =P
Tell me somewhere.

So ermm where you want an earthquake? =P Don't say you wouldn't want one somewhere, cause we all know you would.
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How about No Quake.
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not at all

Chris..
Are you putting yourself in any kind of danger talking with us on the forum?
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everyone knows that the person posting with the name, "the darkness comes" in bold is different than the person posting earlier with the name, "the darkness comes," not in bold, right.

k just wanted to make sure everyone knew that
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He has been answering questions the same way the WHOLE thread.

Nice try 1482666.
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I could be incorrect, but I am still of the opinion that the style of answering questions has changed. I feel they have a different tone. They seem to be from a point of view from someone who is including a larger group that he is a part of in his answers, as apposed to the most recent posts which seem to come from a much more individual point of view. Also, in the beginning the OP was only answering questions, as apposed to recently where he volunteers information freely.

In addition, I didn't have time to go back and find the exact post, but the OP clearly made his exit around page 120 or so.

Here are some examples of the original posts:


Yes, society is what we will kill, and can you blame us?! 40,000 hours spent on Hilton/Lohan/Spears in the media - less than 10,000 hours spent covering Darfur and the millions dead there.


We're all the good guys, we just want to usher in what you would call a "Second Coming". It just takes dark strokes to paint a bright world.

Jesus ushered in the Age of Pisces and the next "Jesus" will usher in the Age of Cetus.

> Like I said, I could be wrong, and the current poster definately has some interesting and probably very valid and important information, but I felt that this thread seemed important enough, that if someone was falsely imitating the original poster it was important for people to realize it.

lol... and that is unfortunate about my post number thing... seems like an unfortunate coincidence
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done =P

How about pigs flying? =P
Tell me somewhere.

So ermm where you want an earthquake? =P Don't say you wouldn't want one somewhere, cause we all know you would.
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How about No Quake.
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How about the country that was behind the Oslo event.

That seems like an appropriate choice, doesn't it not?
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How about pigs flying? =P
Tell me somewhere.

So ermm where you want an earthquake? =P Don't say you wouldn't want one somewhere, cause we all know you would.
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How about No Quake.
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Tornado near a pig farm, cute
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You are entitled to your opinion, 1482666.

I don't agree with you though.
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fair enough, you may very well be right, in retrospect the tone could have very possibly changed due to to a greater interest in the supernatural subject matter.
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done =P

How about pigs flying? =P
Tell me somewhere.

...

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How about the country that was behind the Oslo event.

That seems like an appropriate choice, doesn't it not?
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Of course I don't know what country that was uhoh
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TDS, if you are really capable of doing it. How about instead of distrution bring construction? Bring a few rains to africa, Ukraine, elsewhere..?
You will say that you are not allowed to. But who deters you from doing that?
There is NOTHING stronger in the world than the Power of Will. And humans are granted with unlimited supplys of that thing. By this I mean that there is NOONE who can tell you what you can or cannot do. So why are you bias towards distruction rather then construction? hf
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I am in position to know for fact our energy consumption is not an issue. You claim to be an elite, yet you spin the same b.s. about energy shortages.

Our energy policy is holding back our production. This green idea is a scam, in order to produce more "revenues" as Obama calls taxes.

Coal is the answer, but tree huggers say its the environment. Carbon credits will "offset" the damage to earth by big mean corporate America.
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Think we can keep taking, taking, taking, taking from earth as much as we want, when we want, how we want? That's Elite thinking, since they slave-drive others. You can slave-drive nature if you want, but good luck calming her down. Earth is not a machine, you cannot turn it on, get what you want, turn it off.

I am in position to know for fact our energy consumption is not an issue. You claim to be an elite, yet you spin the same b.s. about energy shortages.

Our energy policy is holding back our production. This green idea is a scam, in order to produce more "revenues" as Obama calls taxes.

Coal is the answer, but tree huggers say its the environment. Carbon credits will "offset" the damage to earth by big mean corporate America.
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I never mention carbon credit offsets in what I wrote about energy policy.

I am in position to know for fact our energy consumption is not an issue. You claim to be an elite, yet you spin the same b.s. about energy shortages.

Our energy policy is holding back our production. This green idea is a scam, in order to produce more "revenues" as Obama calls taxes.

Coal is the answer, but tree huggers say its the environment. Carbon credits will "offset" the damage to earth by big mean corporate America.
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This is a total guess, but your head line send a sharp line through your health line, and I feel like you've injured your brain in some way. You have a Line of Mars, and it does weird things. I'll have to ask what it means.

PS: Do you sleepwalk?

Chris,

I'll try again with the symptoms, lol. I leave out the back ground besides saying it started during a very stress, tragic event.

Breathing stops, I do not struggle- it is not like an asthma attack

My heart stopped, no pulse- neither felt by medical staff or registered on equipment. I was full aware. The 2nd time my daughter had a seizure shortly after, within minutes.

Bruises, very severe. No leukemia.

Swollen hand and feet.

Clammy hands and feet.

Red hands(palms and fingers) feel like they are vibrating.

Burning pain between shoulders and collarbone, similar to "the burn" when working out

Loss of vision

Loss of hearing

Blacking out, this always starts with total loss of hearing, then loss of vision, then bam I hit the ground

Dehydration, severe... needing an IV severe

pain in left hip, similar to arthritis. non found

Pain. Deep pain. When I say deep in feels like it is inside not on surface. Example inside head, leg, chest

Sharp pain in ear

Bouts of no pain when there should be pain. Example I coach football and get over zealous. I have cut my face, lip, even dislocated fingers. Absolutely no pain.

Disorientation and confusion.

I had micro-tears in the muscle of my back for no apparent reason. Again no pain, just stiffness. The doctor said I should be in pain.

I mention coaching/playing football and fighting professionally. My doctor want me to have surgery for a horribly shredded rotator cuff. I have never injured that shoulder. He was surprise that I could throw a football or lift weights in it's current condition.

Many times I vomit and feel immediately better. This normally happens after hearing/seeing/experiencing something "bad".

The "fire liver" post caught my attention because the man I link told me abut fire liver when I was a teenager. I will be 36 in Nov

Muscle spasms all over. Some times painful, sometimes not. One that happens almost everyday, several times a day is my right pointer finger.

Crushing sensation on the left side of my face from chin to top of head.

Crushing sensation and the back of my skull.

Horrible time trying to sleep, if at all.

A pain when describe to my doctor sound to him like a "sports hernia".

For about a month if I sat down, when trying to stand it was near impossible. Both painful and I just could straighten up. Then once up, I had trouble walking. A friend said it looked like a "big baby learning to walk"

I do not look sickly

I have had xrays/CAT/MRI/MRA, enough blood taken to fill a blood bank, lol. Always nothing.

Like I said I feel a connection between this and the other subject. It feels ridiculous to say that, but it is the truth.

I think that cover it... pretty good list there, huh?

Like I told cleo, I refuse to take pain meds. I refuse to take sleeping pills, only time I did was when I was caring for my wife when she was sick.

I do smoke cigarettes and marijuana. I do not touch alcohol. As I mentioned I do still practice Shotokan, it helps the most. The focus, like most martial arts, blocks things out for me. Before and after I practice Mokuso, similar to mushin in zen. It involves breathing and clearing one's mind. It roughly can be translated to "preparing the mind to train". I also run and use resistance weight training.

As always, thanks!
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It's prob government not wanting me to give you people these ideas lol. If they keep it up I'll doom DC's ass off.
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just keep it within DC..
you know, just cuz...
;P
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Re: Elite Family Insider Returns for Q&A
I know you're thinking "Oh dear God, so much text!" But the solution to something like education doesn't fit on a bumper sticker. Sorry.
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My eyes! Burning walls of text!

Just kidding.

We'll read it!

Keep posting that good stuff.
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hey at least he numbers his "great wall o' texts"

hee hee hee :D


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