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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1527041 08/31/2011 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not aware of that term. How do you know people are stalking you? Quoting: the darkness comes Hi Darkness, Can you tell me please which group is behind the practise known as "Gangstalking" ? Also is it just bad luck if you are placed on a gangstalking list OR is there a specific reason you are targeted such as you being a threat to some groups agenda ? Finally assuming you know something about this practise. Can you tell me please if there is ANYTHING I can do to get off the list and stop the surveillance on my home. Thank you .. Sorry for asking 3 questions but I am kinda desperate for a solution and am having many problems dealing with my life in complete ruins. Thank you for replying to my question. In answer to "How do i know people are stalking me" ? Well firstly I'll try to explain when it started happening. About 6 years ago i started working at a large Coorperation. From that time on the same people at work like 20/100 employees seemed to know all about me and what was going in my home life with my family. For example people would frequently repeat back to me things i'd said in the house word for word. They also used this information to make fun of me and ridicule ideas or opinions i expressed in my home to my family. Not only that everywhere i went for example to get my car serviced, the mall, the supermarket, the video store etc someone from my work would ALWAYS be there. So i finally decided that id had enough at this point and that i needed to get some evidence because my family didnt beleive me when i told them i was being bullied at work and followed etc. After 6 months of sneaking around, using a pay phone ( phone booth ) and searching the internet at internet cafes etc I finally found and organised someone from another city to come and check out my house. I kept all this secret because i didn't want my chance of getting evidence to be sabotaged. So a guy from this surveillance company came to my home without anyone knowing he was coming. His findings showed that "Yes" i could be under surveillace. He found an audio surveillance device on the neighbours property. The area i live is very built up and there is only like a 10m gap between all houses either side of ours. So at this point at least i knew i wasn't crazy. But of course still no one beleived me. Pretty much my family just didn't want to know because the surveillance wasn't been used against them to cause harm nor was it interfering with their lives. Anyways thats just the quickest explanation i can give you of what was going on to make me think people were stalking me and what i did to get some evidence for myself and others. Thanks for taking the time to read this. =) |
| Jonny Smoke User ID: 1474559 08/31/2011 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not aware of that term. How do you know people are stalking you? Quoting: the darkness comes Hi Darkness, Can you tell me please which group is behind the practise known as "Gangstalking" ? Also is it just bad luck if you are placed on a gangstalking list OR is there a specific reason you are targeted such as you being a threat to some groups agenda ? Finally assuming you know something about this practise. Can you tell me please if there is ANYTHING I can do to get off the list and stop the surveillance on my home. Thank you .. Sorry for asking 3 questions but I am kinda desperate for a solution and am having many problems dealing with my life in complete ruins. Thank you for replying to my question. In answer to "How do i know people are stalking me" ? Well firstly I'll try to explain when it started happening. About 6 years ago i started working at a large Coorperation. From that time on the same people at work like 20/100 employees seemed to know all about me and what was going in my home life with my family. For example people would frequently repeat back to me things i'd said in the house word for word. They also used this information to make fun of me and ridicule ideas or opinions i expressed in my home to my family. Not only that everywhere i went for example to get my car serviced, the mall, the supermarket, the video store etc someone from my work would ALWAYS be there. So i finally decided that id had enough at this point and that i needed to get some evidence because my family didnt beleive me when i told them i was being bullied at work and followed etc. After 6 months of sneaking around, using a pay phone ( phone booth ) and searching the internet at internet cafes etc I finally found and organised someone from another city to come and check out my house. I kept all this secret because i didn't want my chance of getting evidence to be sabotaged. So a guy from this surveillance company came to my home without anyone knowing he was coming. His findings showed that "Yes" i could be under surveillace. He found an audio surveillance device on the neighbours property. The area i live is very built up and there is only like a 10m gap between all houses either side of ours. So at this point at least i knew i wasn't crazy. But of course still no one beleived me. Pretty much my family just didn't want to know because the surveillance wasn't been used against them to cause harm nor was it interfering with their lives. Anyways thats just the quickest explanation i can give you of what was going on to make me think people were stalking me and what i did to get some evidence for myself and others. Thanks for taking the time to read this. =) When you stop caring about "them" they will stop fussing with you. Your fear is food to "them". Turn the tables, mock them, have fun!!!!!!! Don't forget how to stick out your tongue!!!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1521991 08/31/2011 07:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is hate between them. Quoting: the darkness comes the darkness comes why you leave from the answer to a question? I have asked one question: "How can a devil and a Creator love each other forever without hate between them?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1521991 And still white this white, and black this black... Expected that you won't answer a question! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1471397 08/31/2011 07:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is hate between them. Quoting: the darkness comes the darkness comes why you leave from the answer to a question? I have asked one question: "How can a devil and a Creator love each other forever without hate between them?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1521991 And still white this white, and black this black... Expected that you won't answer a question! ..because they "are one in" or "came from" the same? I have a question for you... do YOU know the answer to your question? did you make the question up or is it written in some text that chris should know about? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1518879 08/31/2011 07:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm not aware of that term. How do you know people are stalking you? Quoting: the darkness comes Hi Darkness, Can you tell me please which group is behind the practise known as "Gangstalking" ? Also is it just bad luck if you are placed on a gangstalking list OR is there a specific reason you are targeted such as you being a threat to some groups agenda ? Finally assuming you know something about this practise. Can you tell me please if there is ANYTHING I can do to get off the list and stop the surveillance on my home. Thank you .. Sorry for asking 3 questions but I am kinda desperate for a solution and am having many problems dealing with my life in complete ruins. Thank you for replying to my question. In answer to "How do i know people are stalking me" ? Well firstly I'll try to explain when it started happening. About 6 years ago i started working at a large Coorperation. From that time on the same people at work like 20/100 employees seemed to know all about me and what was going in my home life with my family. For example people would frequently repeat back to me things i'd said in the house word for word. They also used this information to make fun of me and ridicule ideas or opinions i expressed in my home to my family. Not only that everywhere i went for example to get my car serviced, the mall, the supermarket, the video store etc someone from my work would ALWAYS be there. So i finally decided that id had enough at this point and that i needed to get some evidence because my family didnt beleive me when i told them i was being bullied at work and followed etc. After 6 months of sneaking around, using a pay phone ( phone booth ) and searching the internet at internet cafes etc I finally found and organised someone from another city to come and check out my house. I kept all this secret because i didn't want my chance of getting evidence to be sabotaged. So a guy from this surveillance company came to my home without anyone knowing he was coming. His findings showed that "Yes" i could be under surveillace. He found an audio surveillance device on the neighbours property. The area i live is very built up and there is only like a 10m gap between all houses either side of ours. So at this point at least i knew i wasn't crazy. But of course still no one beleived me. Pretty much my family just didn't want to know because the surveillance wasn't been used against them to cause harm nor was it interfering with their lives. Anyways thats just the quickest explanation i can give you of what was going on to make me think people were stalking me and what i did to get some evidence for myself and others. Thanks for taking the time to read this. =) When you stop caring about "them" they will stop fussing with you. Your fear is food to "them". Turn the tables, mock them, have fun!!!!!!! Don't forget how to stick out your tongue!!!!!! Good advice. I too am under constant surveillance. It helps me to remember that to some group, for some reason, I am considered important enough to be watched. If you are being watched, then you are the special one. The gang-stalkers are just easily led, easily bribed, pathetic cockroaches. I think a majority of them realize it, too. Most of my stalkers won't even look me in the eye, cowards that they are. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1521991 08/31/2011 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is hate between them. Quoting: the darkness comes the darkness comes why you leave from the answer to a question? I have asked one question: "How can a devil and a Creator love each other forever without hate between them?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1521991 And still white this white, and black this black... Expected that you won't answer a question! ..because they "are one in" or "came from" the same? I have a question for you... do YOU know the answer to your question? did you make the question up or is it written in some text that chris should know about? If I would know the answer I didn't begin to ask a question. It is impossible to answer a question: How? - Because... I don't ask why they hate each other. I ask how to love eternally without hatred... |
| hromaya noga User ID: 1521991 08/31/2011 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have asked: how? To me answer because... How it is possible? Last Edited by hromaya noga on 08/31/2011 08:29 AM hromaya noga |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1529207 08/31/2011 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chris, let's talk about the 'Tower of Babel' story in Genesis 11. I'm fascinated by this story, if anything for its pure absurdity. Clearly by looking at construction today, this story is false, since we have many many buildings on earth today MANY times larger than this ziggurat could have ever been. But if this story were somehow true, it would make God (I suspect it was Yaldabaoth) a COLOSSAL asshole. Any insight? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1527041 08/31/2011 09:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank you for replying to my question. In answer to "How do i know people are stalking me" ? Well firstly I'll try to explain when it started happening. About 6 years ago i started working at a large Coorperation. From that time on the same people at work like 20/100 employees seemed to know all about me and what was going in my home life with my family. For example people would frequently repeat back to me things i'd said in the house word for word. They also used this information to make fun of me and ridicule ideas or opinions i expressed in my home to my family. Not only that everywhere i went for example to get my car serviced, the mall, the supermarket, the video store etc someone from my work would ALWAYS be there. So i finally decided that id had enough at this point and that i needed to get some evidence because my family didnt beleive me when i told them i was being bullied at work and followed etc. After 6 months of sneaking around, using a pay phone ( phone booth ) and searching the internet at internet cafes etc I finally found and organised someone from another city to come and check out my house. I kept all this secret because i didn't want my chance of getting evidence to be sabotaged. So a guy from this surveillance company came to my home without anyone knowing he was coming. His findings showed that "Yes" i could be under surveillace. He found an audio surveillance device on the neighbours property. The area i live is very built up and there is only like a 10m gap between all houses either side of ours. So at this point at least i knew i wasn't crazy. But of course still no one beleived me. Pretty much my family just didn't want to know because the surveillance wasn't been used against them to cause harm nor was it interfering with their lives. Anyways thats just the quickest explanation i can give you of what was going on to make me think people were stalking me and what i did to get some evidence for myself and others. Thanks for taking the time to read this. =) When you stop caring about "them" they will stop fussing with you. Your fear is food to "them". Turn the tables, mock them, have fun!!!!!!! Don't forget how to stick out your tongue!!!!!! ............................................................ Good advice. I too am under constant surveillance. It helps me to remember that to some group, for some reason, I am considered important enough to be watched. If you are being watched, then you are the special one. The gang-stalkers are just easily led, easily bribed, pathetic cockroaches. I think a majority of them realize it, too. Most of my stalkers won't even look me in the eye, cowards that they are. ............................................................ Thanks to both of you for your input and advice. Its much appreciated. ![]() |
| Judge Smails User ID: 1330416 08/31/2011 11:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you deal w/ destruction, death, catastrophe in your job? Quoting: the darkness comes You're not going to kill anyone. Don't take it uber-literally, sometimes it's symbolic of how your life feels. Quoting: the darkness comes What gives? Quoting: Judge Smails My name gives me: 2. DESTRUCTION, DEATH, CATASTROPHE LOL Who am I going to kill? I'm already beyond middle age... :) Symbolic? I have a fantastic wife, 2 awesome children and am extremely happy, in general. I have faith in God, and in that He will be sure to watch out for those who trust in Him. "death/destruction/catastrophe" in any way shape or form matches me about as well as calling barack obama a right wing KKK member. this is just numerological bull shit that simpletons cling to in order to feel better about themselves (when the numbers "work out" right). LOL If you consider sitting in front of a computer doing market research "involving death". LOL I guess if companies don't sell enough product it is a "catastrophe" for them, but that's how far a stretch I'd have to go to make this apply. |
| Mercury User ID: 1528437 08/31/2011 01:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is your reading, I repost it - just added a couple more words. Do you have access toa Vedic program? If not, I will try to put up a picture of your vedic chart on photobucket. "I am trying to concentrate on a few bits of information that may be new, deeper or ones that can help, from the Vedic system of thinking, without much technicality. The mere fact whether someone is elite or a commoner is rarely seen in Vedic charts, although one can see hints of a relationship with power – political or religious. Terms: nakshatra: 27-28 lunar mansions, rasi is the basic chart, navamsha is the ninth harmonic chart. Sun nakshatra as Ascendant (Krittika in Taurus) holds very great creative or destructive powers. (Krittika means blade, razor or cutting.) There is an energetic tie to your father – which means partly that you will have your complete energy pack for your life task when he dies. Your father is not with you and you do not have a good relationship – this is shown by the navamsha. Nevertheless, you will feel when he passes away. There is an ability or important piece of knowledge, science philosophy, or performance you had in a former life when it was not fully developed or recognized. Your father’s energy is a clue to that ability or knowledge. Also, this is not the first time he is your father. He has a shy nature, good intelligence, but there is something rough about him, and there is a sense of duplicity. May work with liquids or plumbing. Gemini (Punarvasu) Mars shows a keen intellect, way above the average, especially in the verbal or logical world, a strong will to communicate. A twofold path to knowledge: first learning in a classical way, then learning in a deeper way, realizing a master level and teaching others. Classically, this would be an ideal setting for a psychologist, a writer, a teacher. Your teaching fundamentally serves others, coming out first time powerfully during the period between the end of 2010 and September 2011 when Saturn is in Hastha. This service to others – mainly in the form of a community – replaces the need to have children. This is very deep, with destructive elements playing a part – deepening the teaching and the service. (With Pluto and Saturn as well as the lord of the fifth house from the Moon in the fifth house from the ASC, I guess you would have no children, plus the seventh divisional chart shows the lord of the fifth – children among other things – in the house of loss and death. This is not one hundred percent though.) At another level, your father could be a reason why you will want no children in addition to important tasks of service and teaching. Whatever you receive from the family is usually lost, and material possessions show marks etc. When something material truly becomes yours, it will have a scratch or a defect. This also marks a willingness to sacrifice material wealth for spiritual purposes. That works in reverse too, you will be able to live on your teaching or task. Your main spiritual endeavor is to nudge people out of their accepted beliefs. This is more important than instilling new ones. You may also go through several spells of quitting a set of beliefs – mostly traditional belief systems appeal to you though. Ketu in the ninth also shows a keen sense of justice and injustice. Neptune retrograde in Jyestha with the Moon shows a magician that was actively pursuing magic in several lives. One of those could be destroyed by magic and water – tsunami or the way Thera/Atlantis was. A selection of technologies as much as a deep comparison of belief systems goes with this, together with a strong ability to sense other people’s feelings or thoughts. Even specific trains of codes or magic may come from another life. Anuradha Moon with Hastha Saturn shows someone who grows up among some family taboos, the first part of life determined very much by the parents’ fate, and last but not least, moving many times – as dictated by the needs or the work opportunities of the mother and later by your chosen path to service and teaching. It could be across continents as well. Anuradha is also a very pre-determined Moon, which is great because there is less chance for missing your life task which has to do primarily with other people through a massive amount of communication. Anuradha period is until you are 11 years and 11 months old, moving and not very comfortable, restricted by your mother’s life and her partner. Life is easier after that (Jyestha): much hidden knowledge pours in, there is much learning – some of the knowledge is pretty final (enlightenment level) on this planet. (However, some of the best traits you bring here could come from another more advanced civilization.) The mystical and more secluded, seven-year-old Mula period starts in July 2010 (and lasts until July 2017). This has something to do with seeing hidden things, the center of the Galaxy and a lot of transformation. A Hindu would say enlightenment is possible. When Mula is over, and Saturn has passed your Moon in transit (2014-16), you are ready to come out, however, you already know all the precise details of your task now as you have Saturn-Saturn transit. A complete transformation of how you relate to the outside world took place by Summer 2004, Rahu in Jyestha fortifies this now (this summer) and brings you to uncover deep secrets. (I know this is what you have been doing here, however, it is neat that your Vedic chart shows – especially from June till October.) A difficult but ultimately fruitful period is when Saturn will be in Anuradha, the nakshatra of your Moon, from December 2014 till the end of 2015. This could be hard for your mother or other female relative, it would be probably fatal for a relationship, could mean major moving such as going abroad, but it is very good from the POV of accomplishing your life task. The years after that (2016 January-October 2017) will bring out a lot of magic feats almost compulsorily (Saturn in Jyestha). You will have a great following among people who were born between 1988 and 1992 especially (Sagittarius Saturn, Neptune and Uranus, with Libra Pluto). These people are interested in total transformation of society’s deepest beliefs – the last time these planets were together like that was around the time the followers of Martin Luther started the Reformation. This is stretching farther though. Another type of person that may be very receptive to what you bring is Scorpio Pluto (in Vedic), between 93 and 2005, especially the last five years. These people want peace and are tired of worlds being destroyed by war and bad magic and bad technology. Uranus shows you are involved with a very deep renewal of ideas – a true Renaissance. Every thought is thoroughly tested out in real life experience and compared to other thoughts. Your enemies may have Mars-Pluto together so people born in certain months are not suitable to trust. From the Navamsha, it is necessary to practice control over anger and similar emotions – a great key towards real powers. From what I read in these pages, you do that well, although Pluto opposite Mars now shows a great test and a lot of deeply challenging powers in these precise months – until the end of the year. It sometimes requires supreme control to handle the outside world – real people as well as spirits. After Scorpio Saturn, it will be easier to have a good love relationship if you truly want that (though Uranus Neptune does not necessarily show a deeper need for this). This chart is not necessarily ascetic, although you may have a double approach with that: at times quite ascetic and emotional, while at times not very emotional but very sensual – mostly in your thoughts though. It is not easy to balance these out. Your last life was probably short, a warrior – possibly in WW2, my tip would be England. Much destruction. However, you may have ties to Scotland, Himalayas and Japan. Moon shows Islamic lives too. Many times as a monk, a strong person who could sustain themselves alone. In fact, this could be another challenge for you in this life – how to really rely upon other people (who may not always be as independent or smart as you.) Holland, Indonesia are good places for you, and tribal cultures could be also supportive. It is difficult to be normal with a chart like this, luckily, that is not your task. The years leading up to your vision in 2003 could have been dangerous, as was a couple of more, from September 2009 I guess many things were easier and stabler. Since the end of 2005, there could be some fanatics and people with twofold divisions of worldview around you, as well as people possessed. However, your communicative powers are so highly developed that you can put up with this – more easily since openness has been a criterion. OK, this is at first sight – I know you do not believe in timing as much as free will, and I try to respect that. I learned this system of thinking and this is what it says. There are many other details obviously, ask if you are interested in this Vedic POV. Also, what I write here may apply more to someone with an average karma. I appreciate the work you do here, patiently, on over 200 pages, and it has been very engrossing for me to read it." Mercury |
| Mercury User ID: 1528437 08/31/2011 01:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I added bad teeth in my original posting - I forgot to do that here. Second house Mars does that - unfortunately _I suffered through it myself. One more thing: one's words might be one's undoing. Not if you are careful though - but it is difficult to preserve discipline in all circumstances. Narayana dasha shows your current focus in life, Vrishabha (Taurus) which is your ASC so it is starting your life task. This lasts from August 2010 until August 2013. Moola Dasha - roots of karmas from past life - is Mercury from 97 up till next year's birthday. Communication (third house) and reassembling your father's power (Rahu Sun) - maybe the two are related somehow. Kalachakra Dasha: Pisces Jyestha. "Second profession," community interests, magick. A difficult period will take place around 2018-19, most likely the conjoining of Ketu with Pluto and Saturn in your Eighth. However, this will be a time of sweeping efects upon the world. One could say downright hypnotic... |
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| Mercury User ID: 1528437 08/31/2011 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yes. I left whatever is derived from the logic of Vedic astrology exactly as I learned it in its original form even though I know more of Christopher from this thread at times. If I did a chart for Rabindranath Tagore, I would say "exceptional verbal abilities with a distinct need for beauty in words - possibly poetry" even though I knew from the start he was a Nobel proze winning poet... But, since there is so much on this thread, this whole analysis is much shorter than it normally is for an average person. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1471397 08/31/2011 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (you mentioned something like this in Chris's analysis regarding gaining something when someone passes..) can you explain HOW this happends? "A Leo Ascendant (all signs are in Vedic) gets her full spiritual inheritance when her father passes away. Spirituality is tied to your father in former lives: there is a different worldview emerging. " thanks, Mercury |
| the darkness comes User ID: 1529527 08/31/2011 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The true God didn't create Lucifer. The false god did. There is hate between them. Quoting: the darkness comes the darkness comes why you leave from the answer to a question? I have asked one question: "How can a devil and a Creator love each other forever without hate between them?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1521991 And still white this white, and black this black... Expected that you won't answer a question! |
| the darkness comes User ID: 1529527 08/31/2011 02:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Tower of Babel wasn't seen as 'bad' due to its size, rather it was the negative energy the tower would've created. You know how Solomon's Temple was like a 'telephone' b/t this world and God? Think of the Tower of Babel as the same telephone only b/t this world and Satan. Elites don't know the specific layout of the tower, that's been lost in history, but they know this was the purpose of its attempted construction. Chris, let's talk about the 'Tower of Babel' story in Genesis 11. I'm fascinated by this story, if anything for its pure absurdity. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1529207 Clearly by looking at construction today, this story is false, since we have many many buildings on earth today MANY times larger than this ziggurat could have ever been. But if this story were somehow true, it would make God (I suspect it was Yaldabaoth) a COLOSSAL asshole. Any insight? |
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| the darkness comes User ID: 1529527 08/31/2011 03:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is very impressive. You're accurate on everything. Wish I could type out a longer response, since you invested so much effort. =P Here is your reading, I repost it - just added a couple more words. Do you have access toa Vedic program? If not, I will try to put up a picture of your vedic chart on photobucket. Quoting: Mercury 1528437 "I am trying to concentrate on a few bits of information that may be new, deeper or ones that can help, from the Vedic system of thinking, without much technicality. The mere fact whether someone is elite or a commoner is rarely seen in Vedic charts, although one can see hints of a relationship with power – political or religious. Terms: nakshatra: 27-28 lunar mansions, rasi is the basic chart, navamsha is the ninth harmonic chart. Sun nakshatra as Ascendant (Krittika in Taurus) holds very great creative or destructive powers. (Krittika means blade, razor or cutting.) There is an energetic tie to your father – which means partly that you will have your complete energy pack for your life task when he dies. Your father is not with you and you do not have a good relationship – this is shown by the navamsha. Nevertheless, you will feel when he passes away. There is an ability or important piece of knowledge, science philosophy, or performance you had in a former life when it was not fully developed or recognized. Your father’s energy is a clue to that ability or knowledge. Also, this is not the first time he is your father. He has a shy nature, good intelligence, but there is something rough about him, and there is a sense of duplicity. May work with liquids or plumbing. Gemini (Punarvasu) Mars shows a keen intellect, way above the average, especially in the verbal or logical world, a strong will to communicate. A twofold path to knowledge: first learning in a classical way, then learning in a deeper way, realizing a master level and teaching others. Classically, this would be an ideal setting for a psychologist, a writer, a teacher. Your teaching fundamentally serves others, coming out first time powerfully during the period between the end of 2010 and September 2011 when Saturn is in Hastha. This service to others – mainly in the form of a community – replaces the need to have children. This is very deep, with destructive elements playing a part – deepening the teaching and the service. (With Pluto and Saturn as well as the lord of the fifth house from the Moon in the fifth house from the ASC, I guess you would have no children, plus the seventh divisional chart shows the lord of the fifth – children among other things – in the house of loss and death. This is not one hundred percent though.) At another level, your father could be a reason why you will want no children in addition to important tasks of service and teaching. Whatever you receive from the family is usually lost, and material possessions show marks etc. When something material truly becomes yours, it will have a scratch or a defect. This also marks a willingness to sacrifice material wealth for spiritual purposes. That works in reverse too, you will be able to live on your teaching or task. Your main spiritual endeavor is to nudge people out of their accepted beliefs. This is more important than instilling new ones. You may also go through several spells of quitting a set of beliefs – mostly traditional belief systems appeal to you though. Ketu in the ninth also shows a keen sense of justice and injustice. Neptune retrograde in Jyestha with the Moon shows a magician that was actively pursuing magic in several lives. One of those could be destroyed by magic and water – tsunami or the way Thera/Atlantis was. A selection of technologies as much as a deep comparison of belief systems goes with this, together with a strong ability to sense other people’s feelings or thoughts. Even specific trains of codes or magic may come from another life. Anuradha Moon with Hastha Saturn shows someone who grows up among some family taboos, the first part of life determined very much by the parents’ fate, and last but not least, moving many times – as dictated by the needs or the work opportunities of the mother and later by your chosen path to service and teaching. It could be across continents as well. Anuradha is also a very pre-determined Moon, which is great because there is less chance for missing your life task which has to do primarily with other people through a massive amount of communication. Anuradha period is until you are 11 years and 11 months old, moving and not very comfortable, restricted by your mother’s life and her partner. Life is easier after that (Jyestha): much hidden knowledge pours in, there is much learning – some of the knowledge is pretty final (enlightenment level) on this planet. (However, some of the best traits you bring here could come from another more advanced civilization.) The mystical and more secluded, seven-year-old Mula period starts in July 2010 (and lasts until July 2017). This has something to do with seeing hidden things, the center of the Galaxy and a lot of transformation. A Hindu would say enlightenment is possible. When Mula is over, and Saturn has passed your Moon in transit (2014-16), you are ready to come out, however, you already know all the precise details of your task now as you have Saturn-Saturn transit. A complete transformation of how you relate to the outside world took place by Summer 2004, Rahu in Jyestha fortifies this now (this summer) and brings you to uncover deep secrets. (I know this is what you have been doing here, however, it is neat that your Vedic chart shows – especially from June till October.) A difficult but ultimately fruitful period is when Saturn will be in Anuradha, the nakshatra of your Moon, from December 2014 till the end of 2015. This could be hard for your mother or other female relative, it would be probably fatal for a relationship, could mean major moving such as going abroad, but it is very good from the POV of accomplishing your life task. The years after that (2016 January-October 2017) will bring out a lot of magic feats almost compulsorily (Saturn in Jyestha). You will have a great following among people who were born between 1988 and 1992 especially (Sagittarius Saturn, Neptune and Uranus, with Libra Pluto). These people are interested in total transformation of society’s deepest beliefs – the last time these planets were together like that was around the time the followers of Martin Luther started the Reformation. This is stretching farther though. Another type of person that may be very receptive to what you bring is Scorpio Pluto (in Vedic), between 93 and 2005, especially the last five years. These people want peace and are tired of worlds being destroyed by war and bad magic and bad technology. Uranus shows you are involved with a very deep renewal of ideas – a true Renaissance. Every thought is thoroughly tested out in real life experience and compared to other thoughts. Your enemies may have Mars-Pluto together so people born in certain months are not suitable to trust. From the Navamsha, it is necessary to practice control over anger and similar emotions – a great key towards real powers. From what I read in these pages, you do that well, although Pluto opposite Mars now shows a great test and a lot of deeply challenging powers in these precise months – until the end of the year. It sometimes requires supreme control to handle the outside world – real people as well as spirits. After Scorpio Saturn, it will be easier to have a good love relationship if you truly want that (though Uranus Neptune does not necessarily show a deeper need for this). This chart is not necessarily ascetic, although you may have a double approach with that: at times quite ascetic and emotional, while at times not very emotional but very sensual – mostly in your thoughts though. It is not easy to balance these out. Your last life was probably short, a warrior – possibly in WW2, my tip would be England. Much destruction. However, you may have ties to Scotland, Himalayas and Japan. Moon shows Islamic lives too. Many times as a monk, a strong person who could sustain themselves alone. In fact, this could be another challenge for you in this life – how to really rely upon other people (who may not always be as independent or smart as you.) Holland, Indonesia are good places for you, and tribal cultures could be also supportive. It is difficult to be normal with a chart like this, luckily, that is not your task. The years leading up to your vision in 2003 could have been dangerous, as was a couple of more, from September 2009 I guess many things were easier and stabler. Since the end of 2005, there could be some fanatics and people with twofold divisions of worldview around you, as well as people possessed. However, your communicative powers are so highly developed that you can put up with this – more easily since openness has been a criterion. OK, this is at first sight – I know you do not believe in timing as much as free will, and I try to respect that. I learned this system of thinking and this is what it says. There are many other details obviously, ask if you are interested in this Vedic POV. Also, what I write here may apply more to someone with an average karma. I appreciate the work you do here, patiently, on over 200 pages, and it has been very engrossing for me to read it." Mercury |
| the darkness comes User ID: 1529527 08/31/2011 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lucifer stands for love OF knowledge & knowledge equal to love. Lucifer also stands for rebellion against status quo. |
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| Mercury User ID: 1529825 08/31/2011 06:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (you mentioned something like this in Chris's analysis regarding gaining something when someone passes..) Quoting: Alien Head can you explain HOW this happends? "A Leo Ascendant (all signs are in Vedic) gets her full spiritual inheritance when her father passes away. Spirituality is tied to your father in former lives: there is a different worldview emerging. " thanks, Mercury I do not know the exact way of power transmission, but here's the logic: Areas of the zodiac ruled by the Sun or the Moon relate to the father and the mother respectively. Among the signs, Leo and Cancer, also three lunar mansions are ruled by the Sun and three by the Moon. Now the Lagna or Ascendant is what you do or learn in this life, it is your task in this life. If it is ruled by the Sun or the Moon, very frequently you do not end up doing your job until the respective parent dies, or you do it only with half the energy. Or there is resistance in you or around you. E.g. both Chris and I are Sun ascendants. Our life tasks relate to something the father does or something he was lacking. My astro teacher is a case in point, a Leo Asc. in Indian. She lived abroad and did a lot of parties, picked up odd boyfriends although she did study some astrology. When her father passed away, she started serious yoga, became a vegetarian, a teetotaller, a professional astrologer and moved back to Hungary to work as an esoteric astrologer. She later realized she had received her energetic inheritance, when she started to study Indian techniques. Now her father had been crazy. She handles the same energy differently, she is more than an astrologer, rather like a medium. Not a normal person anyway. With Moon ascendants, the mother holds part of the energy hostage. Family constellation therapy (Hellinger) may be a route out of this, also serious magick. But: it is possible that if a native really believes this strange part of esoteric astrology and goes say to a number of family modelling sessions to get his/her full energy - the respective parent may suddenly die. Nevertheless, I have yet to see someone who gained their full Ascendant power without the respective parent's death. We don't tell clients this. Hence I got used to a more refined wording. Om shivashakti-yaikya-rupinyai namah |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1471397 08/31/2011 06:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | (you mentioned something like this in Chris's analysis regarding gaining something when someone passes..) Quoting: Alien Head can you explain HOW this happends? "A Leo Ascendant (all signs are in Vedic) gets her full spiritual inheritance when her father passes away. Spirituality is tied to your father in former lives: there is a different worldview emerging. " thanks, Mercury I do not know the exact way of power transmission, but here's the logic: Areas of the zodiac ruled by the Sun or the Moon relate to the father and the mother respectively. Among the signs, Leo and Cancer, also three lunar mansions are ruled by the Sun and three by the Moon. Now the Lagna or Ascendant is what you do or learn in this life, it is your task in this life. If it is ruled by the Sun or the Moon, very frequently you do not end up doing your job until the respective parent dies, or you do it only with half the energy. Or there is resistance in you or around you. E.g. both Chris and I are Sun ascendants. Our life tasks relate to something the father does or something he was lacking. My astro teacher is a case in point, a Leo Asc. in Indian. She lived abroad and did a lot of parties, picked up odd boyfriends although she did study some astrology. When her father passed away, she started serious yoga, became a vegetarian, a teetotaller, a professional astrologer and moved back to Hungary to work as an esoteric astrologer. She later realized she had received her energetic inheritance, when she started to study Indian techniques. Now her father had been crazy. She handles the same energy differently, she is more than an astrologer, rather like a medium. Not a normal person anyway. With Moon ascendants, the mother holds part of the energy hostage. Family constellation therapy (Hellinger) may be a route out of this, also serious magick. But: it is possible that if a native really believes this strange part of esoteric astrology and goes say to a number of family modelling sessions to get his/her full energy - the respective parent may suddenly die. Nevertheless, I have yet to see someone who gained their full Ascendant power without the respective parent's death. We don't tell clients this. Hence I got used to a more refined wording. I'm going to email you now.. dont want to bog down Chris thread like I have in the past. |
| Mercury User ID: 1529825 08/31/2011 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I created an email address for this type of correspondance: regmalachi@gmail.com I do not want to derail the thread. I did this reading for Chris as an offering because he inspired me and added some missing pieces to my world view. Om shivashakti-yaikya-rupinyai namah |
| Mercury User ID: 1529825 08/31/2011 06:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this a war starting around Egypt, Israel and Iran? [link to www.ynetnews.com] The Gaddafi case was proving Chris's point. He almost disappeared from the news and after the Sunday concentration event Tripoli was taken. BTW I read his Green Book a while back and although I think he was a good ruler in some respects (basically doing an Islamic Socialism) and he had some very humane ideas and deeds, Gaddafi was far from the rosy picture Rense and other globcrits painted on him. After all, the man had giant posters of himself everywhere... and he did persecute all his enemies and bombed his own subjects. Plus he was clearly crazy. In Libya you could be jailed for having a shot of whisky. Is Chavez also in the way of WW3? Om shivashakti-yaikya-rupinyai namah |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1471397 08/31/2011 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I created an email address for this type of correspondance: regmalachi@gmail.com Quoting: Mercury I do not want to derail the thread. I did this reading for Chris as an offering because he inspired me and added some missing pieces to my world view. I know :) you'll know who I am.. just dont want to mention my name here :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1055324 08/31/2011 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chris, Could you please comment on the people who live in complete despair due to the assaulting conditions on earth? Many good people are becoming reclusive. They can no longer tolerate the hubris of people, the destruction of nature, and the imbalance of everyday life. Probably safe to say, the ones who are looking for the extinction level event. Some are leaving by their own hands, sad but becoming common. Thank you |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1505261 08/31/2011 08:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The true God didn't create Lucifer. The false god did. Quoting: the darkness comes There is hate between them. Quoting: the darkness comes the darkness comes why you leave from the answer to a question? I have asked one question: "How can a devil and a Creator love each other forever without hate between them?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1521991 And still white this white, and black this black... Expected that you won't answer a question! According to the Bible the angel now known as satan(some call him lucifer) turned bad on his own. He wasn't created evil. He was created perfect like all the angels. He just used his free will for evil instead of good. BTW, we don't know satan's original name and never will(although some may think they know it). He goes by a title now that means slanderer(satan) the deceiver(devil). He can't be trusted ever. BTW, satan is a false god. He is A god (but not THE God) just like all the angels are. |