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The BBC website reports the guy behind a plot in kill Mandela has been found guilty of treason. Not sure if it has any bearing on things.
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Yes, it makes sense only if that frame of mind wasn't forced upon people. Judging by Russian civilisation - everything was fine up until the time when globalists wanted to mess everything up. Look at Russia. Only country in the world with no castles, nonetheless, always defeated everyone attacking it on pure land. Main casualties the red (Lenin and Trocky) army got is from the rural areas, where lived humans, who knew, what they stood for. The state of mind you are trying to convey people of new world to was present in that society, and it was destroyed by force. When alcohol and smoke were introduced there were riots everywhere in the country. The same story as during Opium wars in China. Peter the first (that was killed when was in Netherlands) i.e. his replacement, got back from Europe with all this crap and made laws to implement drugs as being part of the culture, which it never were.

This is the rock I can't wrap my head around. Because everything you say makes perfect sense, and, alas, I almost support what you do. But it's justified only in case if people themselves would go astray w/o anyone else showing how to and not explaining - why not.
For instance, telling someone that smoking will relief stress without telling them that it will make them addicted and all those other consequences, and how does the programming work, is a forceful pushing of people into the grave. Forcefully make them forget the history of their kin so that they would be easily to manipulate with. Without all this manipulation no war would ever occur. People would hold to the high moral values left over by their elders and everything we know now would be available at least 1000 years sooner.
Do you understand, what makes me reluctant to the whole idea elites are doing?

P.S. If you will answer - progress happen very slow if you do not stir it with disasters, then I will reply in advance: are you a god to decide how fast anyone have to ascend? Why not letting every consciousness to go by their own small steps to the higher realisation? What's the difference, now or in a million years?
Russian proverb: "The slower you will go, the further you will get."
 Quoting: The Russian


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They're not direct answers but I think they're good enough. What I'm getting is they're waiting until humanity is united globally and one group mostly dominates before they try enlightening the masses, because apparently that's the best decision. Humanity as a whole must be in a certain mindset. Knowledge/Wisdom is also something an individual must crave and long for, so in the new order if they release truth it will be amongst lies as well. It's our job to sift through them, apparently. Just my current observation.

Response to P.S.: But I thought all of us are "waking up" at our own pace? Isn't that kind of what reincarnation is all about? Also positive options are still being released that we're able to choose from, even though the negative is more abundant. And for speeding up the process, OP has mentioned before that the groups are led by different supernatural entities - Grigori being his.

OP: Who sent the Watchers down here to watch over humanity? Enoch claims that they are the ones who mated with humans. I thought this was one of the worst sins, though? If so it confuses me why you would trust them....because Satan hates all creation. Unless I just have it all wrong.

Oh and thank you for your answers to my earlier questions (I'm N).
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Mr Elite Insider, have you seen this?

"To the so-called Illuminati:

I know you now. I see you now.

You struggle for dominion over the world and all men. Therein, lies the seeds of your defeat. You lust after the illusionary, the transitory. Physics works against you.

Your gods, are lesser demons, that any magician could master.

You flaunt your symbols, your plans, your tools...like any poor fool of a super villain.

Yes, you have killed more people than any other. We do not fear death, for we are beyond death.

You have built unassailable fortresses on the Earth. Good for you. You have built sand castles at low tide. The powers you tinker with are small, and there are far greater powers turning towards you. You play with shadows in the morning twilight, soon it will be noon.

How well built are your astral defenses? Can they withstand the force of the gods aligned against you?

Poor creatures of darkness, quit the night and seek the day. Therein lays your only salvation.

I offer you this one warning. There will be no others. Do not proceed with your plans. Slowly back down and away from the abyss and you shall face a lesser judgement on earth.

The Eyes of the Gods are upon you. Act wisely. Give up. Or I will unleash a torrent of magickal power that will wipe you away.

I shall stand between you and humanity. Kill me. I will rise again.

Your time is over.

This is your last warning.

Sincerely yours,

you know who.

P.S. In the end this war will be won not by lies, armies, or weapons...but by quiet heros and little saints."

It's from the blog of some chick who claims to be the Thelemic Messiah, Jack Parson's Moonchold, Babalon Incarnate.
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sorry forget the link:

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Yes, it makes sense only if that frame of mind wasn't forced upon people. Judging by Russian civilisation - everything was fine up until the time when globalists wanted to mess everything up. Look at Russia. Only country in the world with no castles, nonetheless, always defeated everyone attacking it on pure land. Main casualties the red (Lenin and Trocky) army got is from the rural areas, where lived humans, who knew, what they stood for. The state of mind you are trying to convey people of new world to was present in that society, and it was destroyed by force. When alcohol and smoke were introduced there were riots everywhere in the country. The same story as during Opium wars in China. Peter the first (that was killed when was in Netherlands) i.e. his replacement, got back from Europe with all this crap and made laws to implement drugs as being part of the culture, which it never were.

This is the rock I can't wrap my head around. Because everything you say makes perfect sense, and, alas, I almost support what you do. But it's justified only in case if people themselves would go astray w/o anyone else showing how to and not explaining - why not.
For instance, telling someone that smoking will relief stress without telling them that it will make them addicted and all those other consequences, and how does the programming work, is a forceful pushing of people into the grave. Forcefully make them forget the history of their kin so that they would be easily to manipulate with. Without all this manipulation no war would ever occur. People would hold to the high moral values left over by their elders and everything we know now would be available at least 1000 years sooner.
Do you understand, what makes me reluctant to the whole idea elites are doing?

P.S. If you will answer - progress happen very slow if you do not stir it with disasters, then I will reply in advance: are you a god to decide how fast anyone have to ascend? Why not letting every consciousness to go by their own small steps to the higher realisation? What's the difference, now or in a million years?
Russian proverb: "The slower you will go, the further you will get."
 Quoting: The Russian


[link to i50.tinypic.com]

[link to i49.tinypic.com]

[link to i46.tinypic.com]

They're not direct answers but I think they're good enough. What I'm getting is they're waiting until humanity is united globally and one group mostly dominates before they try enlightening the masses, because apparently that's the best decision. Humanity as a whole must be in a certain mindset. Knowledge/Wisdom is also something an individual must crave and long for, so in the new order if they release truth it will be amongst lies as well. It's our job to sift through them, apparently. Just my current observation.

Response to P.S.: But I thought all of us are "waking up" at our own pace? Isn't that kind of what reincarnation is all about? Also positive options are still being released that we're able to choose from, even though the negative is more abundant. And for speeding up the process, OP has mentioned before that the groups are led by different supernatural entities - Grigori being his.

OP: Who sent the Watchers down here to watch over humanity? Enoch claims that they are the ones who mated with humans. I thought this was one of the worst sins, though? If so it confuses me why you would trust them....because Satan hates all creation. Unless I just have it all wrong.

Oh and thank you for your answers to my earlier questions (I'm N).
 Quoting: Lawlliet Candy


I agree with everything he said, but he hasn't answered the question - what made them gods to decide that we all are immature and we need to be enlightened. You cannot bring everyone to the same level at once. Maybe one consciousnes has lived 10 lives and the other 110. You cannot expect that the "10 lives consciousness" will show the same self awareness as the other one. Because you cannot run ahead of the train. I've tried for all my school life to run ahead of everyone, and 99.9% of the time I tripped over. One cannot force ascension upon the other. That's where their goals fail to succeed in my understanding.

As of yet - no answer means, yes, they didn't had a reason, hence, it's all for the power and not for the "well being of humanity".

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I agree with everything he said, but he hasn't answered the question - what made them gods to decide that we all are immature and we need to be enlightened. You cannot bring everyone to the same level at once. Maybe one consciousnes has lived 10 lives and the other 110. You cannot expect that the "10 lives consciousness" will show the same self awareness as the other one. Because you cannot run ahead of the train. I've tried for all my school life to run ahead of everyone, and 99.9% of the time I tripped over. One cannot force ascension upon the other. That's where their goals fail to succeed in my understanding.

As of yet - no answer means, yes, they didn't had a reason, hence, it's all for the power and not for the "well being of humanity".
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The initial purpose of the new order is not to make people enlightened, that is a path each individual must follow on his/her own. The New Order is to change the mindset of the people, making it easier for them to follow and value knowledge and wisdom. It doesn't matter if you have lived 10 lifetimes or 110 lifetimes, if you experience a devastating, life-altering event in your current lifetime,your outlook on life will change. But whether or not someone uses his or her new mindset to pursue the truth, that is the individual's choice. You cannot force enlightenment on anyone. I think your confusion is just a misunderstanding.

So in conclusion, based on my current observations, the New Order isn't trying to force enlightenment on the people. But to change the mindset and the priorities of humanity so that a pursuit of truth is easier, as shown when the new economic system was defined early in the thread. Hopefully I make sense...I'm better at understanding concepts through feeling rather than words.

And I'm so happy I've finally found somewhere I can talk about this kind of stuff xD Like seriously these are things running through my head all day and I've never had anywhere to share it before ^-^
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The initial purpose of the new order is not to make people enlightened, that is a path each individual must follow on his/her own. The New Order is to change the mindset of the people, making it easier for them to follow and value knowledge and wisdom. It doesn't matter if you have lived 10 lifetimes or 110 lifetimes, if you experience a devastating, life-altering event in your current lifetime,your outlook on life will change. But whether or not someone uses his or her new mindset to pursue the truth, that is the individual's choice. You cannot force enlightenment on anyone. I think your confusion is just a misunderstanding.

So in conclusion, based on my current observations, the New Order isn't trying to force enlightenment on the people. But to change the mindset and the priorities of humanity so that a pursuit of truth is easier, as shown when the new economic system was defined early in the thread. Hopefully I make sense...I'm better at understanding concepts through feeling rather than words.

And I'm so happy I've finally found somewhere I can talk about this kind of stuff xD Like seriously these are things running through my head all day and I've never had anywhere to share it before ^-^
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But who caused the degradation it in the first place? Who is dividing and conquering? The "new" mindset of NWO is not new. It is as old as the oldest humanish remnants were found like 800,000 years if not older. All I want is a real reason - why all this -> the last 5 000 years <- were initiated in the first place. As before - the whole thread hasn't got an answer, and every single time I ask this, implicit or explicit question, I get an elusive answer.
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poor Nelson Mandela
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why?
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This is why...

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But who caused the degradation it in the first place? Who is dividing and conquering? The "new" mindset of NWO is not new. It is as old as the oldest humanish remnants were found like 800,000 years if not older. All I want is a real reason - why all this -> the last 5 000 years <- were initiated in the first place. As before - the whole thread hasn't got an answer, and every single time I ask this, implicit or explicit question, I get an elusive answer.
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Oh yes I've wondered this as well. What happened that made the manipulation necessary? I know that the separation between the 'elite' (hate that word, i believe all humans are equal) and the people was at Mt. Hermon...but why wasn't the given knowledge spread to everyone? I have some hypotheses but that's all they are....hypotheses. (i'm very very tired so keep that in mind. i make might typing mistakes. these also arnt very detailed just basic overviews of my thoughts)

1. Interference from Yaldabaoth. He could have tried messing with humanity because he didn't like that the watchers gave away a bunch of knowledge, ending with most of humanity having false beliefs. Then the 'elite' do what supernatural entities order them and try to help humanity, even if their initial actions don't look beneficial. Yaldabaoth tried to do things to hurt people and prevent them from discovering the Divine Light within us all. This could explain the religions that were set up. Yes religions are used to control, but they also have another purpose in bringing out the Divine Light in us and helping people reach their full potential. I know many many people who the only reason they're still alive is because of their faith. Religions isn't always a bad thing like so many people say so.

2. The 'elite' are power-hungry bastards, and planned to use their newfound knowledge at mr hermon to control the world, and they program the people and keep away knowledge simply because they hate the masses and want all the truth to themselves. They don't want us leaving earth, so they try to keep us here. This idea doesn't make snese to me....because of how fervent i guess you could say they are in their goals. What's the point if all they get is control? And besides, no enlightened thinker will make money and power over others their priority. thats not rtue winsdom.

3. The knowledge handed down at Mt Hermon was ordered by the Watchers to be kept secret, and the people who it was handed down to were ordered to watch over humanity (explains programming to change mindset for our own good). They were also ordered that to make it available for anyone to discover the truth, but there would need to be a system set up so that only those who really wanted to know the truth would know it. This explains the prevalent secret socieities and mystery schools in the ancient days, it also explains why there are constant lies fed in the media, and why so much false info is given along with the truth. weeds out those who want knowlede,understanding,wisdom and ones who dont. and can even tie in with #1 if u just change some small details. this one makes the most sense to me, i just feel it. but i could be wrong.

those are the only explanations i can think of. if mr insider man wants to share why the programming and manipulating was needed, like the original reason please do so
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those are the only explanations i can think of. if mr insider man wants to share why the programming and manipulating was needed, like the original reason please do so
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People can achieve ascension without being subdued to the constant suffering. Source: scientific experiments.
As long as you create a constructive information field (positive environment) around the masses - they will ascend and use up their genetically conditioned potential.

The only way I can see this being justified is: elites want every person on the planet to come to the verge of elitist self awareness. For instance, in soviet union people had high moral values and society in general was safe and people were helpful, but, once USSR was destroyed masses were tricked back into degrading state.
If the elites are the good guys, they want all people in the world, in spite of any event that happens in the world, to remain humans. To be leaders of their lives and so on, if you get my point. In other words, make all sheep the shepherds. Kill the - instinct of the mass in people.

In this case, I cannot see how it can be done with positive programming and everything that happens now is justified.

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Hi Christopher,

Thank you for spending the time to share such interesting information and for answering our questions. I look forward to meeting with you some day, whether on this planet or elsewhere. I am grateful.

There is something I feel compelled to share with you.

My entire life, I have always felt "out of place." The best way I can describe it is that I am mentally in another powerful reality yet physically in this reality. It has brought forth much confusion and suffering for me.

The exchange of energy from this other realm has likely played a part in dividing my personality. Many times I've tried to convince myself that I am not important, that I am a useless cowardly crybaby, that I am not worthy of my fated destiny, in an effort to prevent myself from reaching my full potential. But I know now why I did that - it is because I am scared. I am scared of the power inside of me. If I wholeheartedly embrace it, then I will become a completely different person, and will lose this fabricated one that I have lived with for so long. The fabricated one was created to be a placeholder. It exists because I refused to face the reality of my existence. It was too much of a burden for me to bear.

I feel deeply compelled to provide compassion, support and understanding to all people, no matter who it is. It is the code that I live by. Yet, I often times feel as though I cannot associate with other people without first deceiving myself.

Christopher, I do not yet know who I am. And I know that I am the only one that must find the answer to this.

My first and last name, provide the following in the Cabalistic Oracle:

318. Divine messenger

And, my full name results in:

16. Love, happiness, voluptuousness.


My question to you is: How does one separate ego from purpose?

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People can achieve ascension without being subdued to the constant suffering. Source: scientific experiments.
As long as you create a constructive information field (positive environment) around the masses - they will ascend and use up their genetically conditioned potential.
 Quoting: The Russian


Every Soul knows who it is, it knows its purpose….every one. It is when we take on the flesh that we forget, and it is also our job to remember. Of course we cannot do this on our own without any help, so this is where the bloodlines come in. Information is passed down generation after generation, and it is their duty to do what is in the best interest of the masses. Discovering ourselves is something we must work for, with which various systems were put in place by them. Ancient mystery schools, secret societies, religion, the media, all of them tools to be used. We must work through the lies to discover ourselves, and it may even take lifetimes, but we must do it. This is our duty. Suffering exists for a reason: It shows us who we are not, and it brings us closer to who we are. Happiness and Peace exist for a reason: They are examples of our natural state, and show us who we really are. The people right now are blind, and suffering is being used to show them who they are not. Suffering will always exist in this dimension, because it must. It is a part of it. But rather than demonize it, let it mold you into a better person. (i'm not saying we should not punish people who hurt others or commit crimes. i'm speaking in a different context). WW3 is downright vile and disgusting, but it will turn humanity around, and the bloodlines are sacrificing their own karma and their next lives for it. Because it is their duty to do what is in the best interest of humanity, even if it hurts them. You may look at the manipulation being done and the programming being done, and it is perfectly understandable if you automatically judge the bloodlines for it. But we must remember that these things are part of this dimension and are required in order for us to ascend, and we must remember the bad karma that the Souls of the bloodlines have been willing to take on for humanity.

But of course I do not justify everything that they do. For instance, Hidden Hand openly admitting that she was trained (tortured) as a child to the point of her mind fracturing and splitting into alters, and she is still heavily programmed and under control. Evidence is her belief that she is Lucifer. I don't know why certain groups do this, and it is terrible and should not be done. I don't even know why this type of behavior was ever allowed in the first place. That's one of my main questions I have yet to ask about this: Why? I understand the wars and the programming of the people through tv, food, religions…. but the torture of a child to dissociation….I cannot fathom. Christopher can you say why this type of abuse occurs? If you can't say why, I understand. It just makes me so sad and I don't understand why this evil would ever happen....

To be leaders of their lives and so on, if you get my point. In other words, make all sheep the shepherds. .
 Quoting: The Russian

Christopher said that there will one day be a Golden Age when the ruling bloodlines are no longer required. When it will be I have no idea o.o And remember ultimately we are leaders of our own lives in a way

--Anyway these are just more of my thoughts written down. I'm constantly learning and I don't claim to know everything even though I may come off that way sometimes...hopefully I don't.
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1. Suffering will always exist in this dimension, because it must.
2. But we must remember that these things are part of this dimension and are required in order for us to ascend.
 Quoting: Lawlliet Candy


1. No, it must not. Because people have a free will to choose for it to be or not to be.
2. As I said - no, it is not required, because science have conducted experiments, which show the opposite. History shows the opposite. Not the one, that is told to sheeple, but the other one that waas passed from elders.
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1. No, it must not. Because people have a free will to choose for it to be or not to be.
2. As I said - no, it is not required, because science have conducted experiments, which show the opposite. History shows the opposite. Not the one, that is told to sheeple, but the other one that waas passed from elders.
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1. Oh okay I see what you mean by that. Suffering doesn't have to exist but we keep manifesting it in our daily lives. That makes sense.
2. What experiments are you referring to? I'm interested.
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1. No, it must not. Because people have a free will to choose for it to be or not to be.
2. As I said - no, it is not required, because science have conducted experiments, which show the opposite. History shows the opposite. Not the one, that is told to sheeple, but the other one that waas passed from elders.
 Quoting: The Russian


1. Oh okay I see what you mean by that. Suffering doesn't have to exist but we keep manifesting it in our daily lives. That makes sense.
2. What experiments are you referring to? I'm interested.
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Put a murderer into an environment, where everyone helps each other - he will turn into HUMAN. Put a human amongst "predators" he most probably 51% of the chance will become one. One of Zeitgeist movies referred to the - murderer in a positive environment - experiment. Plus - Russian history, they way of life.
Implicit example from a historical Russian society, when someone had some sort of an illness, people who didn't have it gathered around that person, who had it, and lived with him/her until the disease died. They improved their immunity and prevented it from spreading around.

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Put a murderer into an environment, where everyone helps each other - he will turn into HUMAN. Put a human amongst "predators" he most probably 51% of the chance will become one. One of Zeitgeist movies referred to the - murderer in a positive environment - experiment. Plus - Russian history, they way of life.
Implicit example from a historical Russian society, when someone had some sort of an illness, people who didn't have it gathered around that person, who had it, and lived with him/her until the disease died. They improved their immunity and prevented it from spreading around.
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- If a murderer is put into a society where everyone helps each other, he will not begin to help people, but he will begin to kill people. If his identity is a murderer, then he is mentally estranged and society won't change him. This will create despair in the society and ruin it, and after a number of generations it won't be a society that helps each other. Those people will still be there, but there will be many negative seeds as well. Negative seeds include things such as anger, grief, regret, sadness, despair, and so on. These things will grow into selfishness and hate and jealousy and insecurity, and then manifest themselves as actions among the people. [[While proofreading, a thought did come to my mind. If this entire society was bent on helping people in every aspect, then he could change. Like if doctors healed people for free, and everyone knew he was a murderer but wanted to heal him because helping others is what society viewed as important, then it is possible. But what would it take to make this type of society possible? Think.]]

- For the second scenario, an image came to my mind of a human being lost on an island full of indigenous people much like those in the second Pirates of Caribbean Movie. So I will use this type of context, since you didn't really show what you meant by "predators". If a human is placed in this society, how he changes or acts will depend upon his past. If he was raised as a Christian, he will most likely run from the people and try to act with peace if he ever encounters them. He will end up dead. If he was raised as an atheist (or free to choose whatever belief suits him but still chose nonbelief because of how outdated the current religious systems are), he would probably use force to defend himself. The outcome mainly depends upon the morals with which he was raised, and what values he holds highest.* There is a chance he could ally with the natives, and become one for survival.

- For the second scenario, another image just came to my mind that I could use. For this example, I'll use the context of gangs as the predators. If one is put into a society where gangs are prevalent and he is given a choice to either be in the gang to live, or not be in it and die, his choice will depend upon his past. Odds are he will choose to be in the gang, but this result does not support your theory, but it supports the view of the ruling bloodlines/string pullers (i hate the word 'bloodline', it sounds so creepy). Anyway, this example shows a human being completely changing their perspective when given an ultimatum. That is the purpose of the negative programming, as I recently outlined. The only difference in this example is that he is changing for the worse, rather than for the better. The current negative programming and degrading of society and the starting of future wars will give humanity an ultimatum: Continue to live as you have been, thus killing yourselves, or follow the opposite approach, and let yourselves live. Keep in mind that many aspects of our current society were chosen by the people. The extent to which, I really don't know.

*i want to expand on this, because I just thought of something. People are being programmed negatively, but like I said positive programming is put in as well but is less prevalent. Right now the people know what is right: love others, accept others, pursue knowledge, etc. But they're choosing what is wrong, and what is wrong is now being enforced more intensely than what is right. So when the ultimatum is given, humanity will choose what is right because it has been programmed into them along with the negative.

Of course, I could just be programmed to accept the new order and am unable to understand real logic. Or is that my anti-elite programming talking?
"Other people have a purpose; I alone don't know. I drift like a wave on the ocean, I blow as aimless as the wind."
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- If a murderer is put into a society where everyone helps each other, he will not begin to help people, but he will begin to kill people. If his identity is a murderer, then he is mentally estranged and society won't change him. This will create despair in the society and ruin it, and after a number of generations it won't be a society that helps each other. Those people will still be there, but there will be many negative seeds as well. Negative seeds include things such as anger, grief, regret, sadness, despair, and so on. These things will grow into selfishness and hate and jealousy and insecurity, and then manifest themselves as actions among the people. [[While proofreading, a thought did come to my mind. If this entire society was bent on helping people in every aspect, then he could change. Like if doctors healed people for free, and everyone knew he was a murderer but wanted to heal him because helping others is what society viewed as important, then it is possible. But what would it take to make this type of society possible? Think.]]
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Wrong. My example is backed up by facts and science, whereas you are saying from the point of view of your believes.
Murderer becomes a decent human in a decent society.
Apparently you are not familiar with social programming. Otherwise this would be obvious to you as sun in the sky.

Sheep mentality. Sheep does whatever others do.
Others do whatever shepherd tells them to do.

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Why would a psychopath care about what society thinks of him? (i'm not being sarcastic or anything but am asking a real question regarding social programming)

Or are you talking about his soul being healed after a number of reincarnations?
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Why would a psychopath care about what society thinks of him? (i'm not being sarcastic or anything but am asking a real question regarding social programming)

Or are you talking about his soul being healed after a number of reincarnations?
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No I talk about sheep mentality.
Think about it this way - many people are different when you talk to them alone than when they are in a group. If that is true - they are sheep.

And I am not talking about 0.1% mentally incurable people.
Exceptions are lame attempts of every conversation to preserve their own world view.

Talk about 95% of all the convicted people.
Sheep (zombie-biorobot) become what is it's environment.
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Mono Sodomy Clip
Situated Sugars
Though Nooses Darkens
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Mono Sodomy Clip
Situated Sugars
Though Nooses Darkens
 Quoting: the darkness comes


Is that a haiku? I think it has too many syllables. It's good though,..
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scrambled message, not a haiku

Mono Sodomy Clip
Situated Sugars
Though Nooses Darkens
 Quoting: the darkness comes


Is that a haiku? I think it has too many syllables. It's good though,..
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like an anagram?

Mono Sodomy Clip

comply, psy-op, my oops, sion, sly, sloop, pools, solo. OH HANG ON, OLYMPICS?

Mono do

oh shit, doom? OH! NO DOOM!!

am I close?
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the last line

Though Nooses Darkens

Could that mean 'Darkness soon though'? (with a spare e)
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or "doom on olympics" ?
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the last line

Though Nooses Darkens

Could that mean 'Darkness soon though'? (with a spare e)
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It's mentioning a shooter.
Or a hooker...but I highly doubt that xD

The first two lines:
Olympic Doom On
August Disaster
"Other people have a purpose; I alone don't know. I drift like a wave on the ocean, I blow as aimless as the wind."
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the last line

Though Nooses Darkens

Could that mean 'Darkness soon though'? (with a spare e)
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It's mentioning a shooter.
Or a hooker...but I highly doubt that xD

The first two lines:
Olympic Doom On
August Disaster
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NAKED HERO SHOOTS GUNS??
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Awww! Damn you intelligent Dutch. =P

like an anagram?

Mono Sodomy Clip

comply, psy-op, my oops, sion, sly, sloop, pools, solo. OH HANG ON, OLYMPICS?

Mono do

oh shit, doom? OH! NO DOOM!!

am I close?
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First line is close but NOt quite.
Second line is right, but you weren't supposed to figure it out till August. :(
Third line has nothing to do w/ a shooter or hooker. Don't stress about it and get the shakes though. =P

the last line

Though Nooses Darkens

Could that mean 'Darkness soon though'? (with a spare e)
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It's mentioning a shooter.
Or a hooker...but I highly doubt that xD

The first two lines:
Olympic Doom On
August Disaster
 Quoting: Lawlliet Candy

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