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Elite Family Insider Returns for Q&A

 
Lawlliet Candy

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1. No, it must not. Because people have a free will to choose for it to be or not to be.
2. As I said - no, it is not required, because science have conducted experiments, which show the opposite. History shows the opposite. Not the one, that is told to sheeple, but the other one that waas passed from elders.
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1. Oh okay I see what you mean by that. Suffering doesn't have to exist but we keep manifesting it in our daily lives. That makes sense.
2. What experiments are you referring to? I'm interested.
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1. No, it must not. Because people have a free will to choose for it to be or not to be.
2. As I said - no, it is not required, because science have conducted experiments, which show the opposite. History shows the opposite. Not the one, that is told to sheeple, but the other one that waas passed from elders.
 Quoting: The Russian


1. Oh okay I see what you mean by that. Suffering doesn't have to exist but we keep manifesting it in our daily lives. That makes sense.
2. What experiments are you referring to? I'm interested.
 Quoting: Lawlliet Candy


Put a murderer into an environment, where everyone helps each other - he will turn into HUMAN. Put a human amongst "predators" he most probably 51% of the chance will become one. One of Zeitgeist movies referred to the - murderer in a positive environment - experiment. Plus - Russian history, they way of life.
Implicit example from a historical Russian society, when someone had some sort of an illness, people who didn't have it gathered around that person, who had it, and lived with him/her until the disease died. They improved their immunity and prevented it from spreading around.

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Put a murderer into an environment, where everyone helps each other - he will turn into HUMAN. Put a human amongst "predators" he most probably 51% of the chance will become one. One of Zeitgeist movies referred to the - murderer in a positive environment - experiment. Plus - Russian history, they way of life.
Implicit example from a historical Russian society, when someone had some sort of an illness, people who didn't have it gathered around that person, who had it, and lived with him/her until the disease died. They improved their immunity and prevented it from spreading around.
 Quoting: The Russian



- If a murderer is put into a society where everyone helps each other, he will not begin to help people, but he will begin to kill people. If his identity is a murderer, then he is mentally estranged and society won't change him. This will create despair in the society and ruin it, and after a number of generations it won't be a society that helps each other. Those people will still be there, but there will be many negative seeds as well. Negative seeds include things such as anger, grief, regret, sadness, despair, and so on. These things will grow into selfishness and hate and jealousy and insecurity, and then manifest themselves as actions among the people. [[While proofreading, a thought did come to my mind. If this entire society was bent on helping people in every aspect, then he could change. Like if doctors healed people for free, and everyone knew he was a murderer but wanted to heal him because helping others is what society viewed as important, then it is possible. But what would it take to make this type of society possible? Think.]]

- For the second scenario, an image came to my mind of a human being lost on an island full of indigenous people much like those in the second Pirates of Caribbean Movie. So I will use this type of context, since you didn't really show what you meant by "predators". If a human is placed in this society, how he changes or acts will depend upon his past. If he was raised as a Christian, he will most likely run from the people and try to act with peace if he ever encounters them. He will end up dead. If he was raised as an atheist (or free to choose whatever belief suits him but still chose nonbelief because of how outdated the current religious systems are), he would probably use force to defend himself. The outcome mainly depends upon the morals with which he was raised, and what values he holds highest.* There is a chance he could ally with the natives, and become one for survival.

- For the second scenario, another image just came to my mind that I could use. For this example, I'll use the context of gangs as the predators. If one is put into a society where gangs are prevalent and he is given a choice to either be in the gang to live, or not be in it and die, his choice will depend upon his past. Odds are he will choose to be in the gang, but this result does not support your theory, but it supports the view of the ruling bloodlines/string pullers (i hate the word 'bloodline', it sounds so creepy). Anyway, this example shows a human being completely changing their perspective when given an ultimatum. That is the purpose of the negative programming, as I recently outlined. The only difference in this example is that he is changing for the worse, rather than for the better. The current negative programming and degrading of society and the starting of future wars will give humanity an ultimatum: Continue to live as you have been, thus killing yourselves, or follow the opposite approach, and let yourselves live. Keep in mind that many aspects of our current society were chosen by the people. The extent to which, I really don't know.

*i want to expand on this, because I just thought of something. People are being programmed negatively, but like I said positive programming is put in as well but is less prevalent. Right now the people know what is right: love others, accept others, pursue knowledge, etc. But they're choosing what is wrong, and what is wrong is now being enforced more intensely than what is right. So when the ultimatum is given, humanity will choose what is right because it has been programmed into them along with the negative.

Of course, I could just be programmed to accept the new order and am unable to understand real logic. Or is that my anti-elite programming talking?
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- If a murderer is put into a society where everyone helps each other, he will not begin to help people, but he will begin to kill people. If his identity is a murderer, then he is mentally estranged and society won't change him. This will create despair in the society and ruin it, and after a number of generations it won't be a society that helps each other. Those people will still be there, but there will be many negative seeds as well. Negative seeds include things such as anger, grief, regret, sadness, despair, and so on. These things will grow into selfishness and hate and jealousy and insecurity, and then manifest themselves as actions among the people. [[While proofreading, a thought did come to my mind. If this entire society was bent on helping people in every aspect, then he could change. Like if doctors healed people for free, and everyone knew he was a murderer but wanted to heal him because helping others is what society viewed as important, then it is possible. But what would it take to make this type of society possible? Think.]]
 Quoting: Lawlliet Candy


Wrong. My example is backed up by facts and science, whereas you are saying from the point of view of your believes.
Murderer becomes a decent human in a decent society.
Apparently you are not familiar with social programming. Otherwise this would be obvious to you as sun in the sky.

Sheep mentality. Sheep does whatever others do.
Others do whatever shepherd tells them to do.

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Why would a psychopath care about what society thinks of him? (i'm not being sarcastic or anything but am asking a real question regarding social programming)

Or are you talking about his soul being healed after a number of reincarnations?
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Why would a psychopath care about what society thinks of him? (i'm not being sarcastic or anything but am asking a real question regarding social programming)

Or are you talking about his soul being healed after a number of reincarnations?
 Quoting: Lawlliet Candy


No I talk about sheep mentality.
Think about it this way - many people are different when you talk to them alone than when they are in a group. If that is true - they are sheep.

And I am not talking about 0.1% mentally incurable people.
Exceptions are lame attempts of every conversation to preserve their own world view.

Talk about 95% of all the convicted people.
Sheep (zombie-biorobot) become what is it's environment.
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Mono Sodomy Clip
Situated Sugars
Though Nooses Darkens
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Mono Sodomy Clip
Situated Sugars
Though Nooses Darkens
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Is that a haiku? I think it has too many syllables. It's good though,..
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scrambled message, not a haiku

Mono Sodomy Clip
Situated Sugars
Though Nooses Darkens
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Is that a haiku? I think it has too many syllables. It's good though,..
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like an anagram?

Mono Sodomy Clip

comply, psy-op, my oops, sion, sly, sloop, pools, solo. OH HANG ON, OLYMPICS?

Mono do

oh shit, doom? OH! NO DOOM!!

am I close?
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the last line

Though Nooses Darkens

Could that mean 'Darkness soon though'? (with a spare e)
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or "doom on olympics" ?
Lawlliet Candy

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the last line

Though Nooses Darkens

Could that mean 'Darkness soon though'? (with a spare e)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16600098


It's mentioning a shooter.
Or a hooker...but I highly doubt that xD

The first two lines:
Olympic Doom On
August Disaster
"Other people have a purpose; I alone don't know. I drift like a wave on the ocean, I blow as aimless as the wind."
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the last line

Though Nooses Darkens

Could that mean 'Darkness soon though'? (with a spare e)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16600098


It's mentioning a shooter.
Or a hooker...but I highly doubt that xD

The first two lines:
Olympic Doom On
August Disaster
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NAKED HERO SHOOTS GUNS??
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Awww! Damn you intelligent Dutch. =P

like an anagram?

Mono Sodomy Clip

comply, psy-op, my oops, sion, sly, sloop, pools, solo. OH HANG ON, OLYMPICS?

Mono do

oh shit, doom? OH! NO DOOM!!

am I close?
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First line is close but NOt quite.
Second line is right, but you weren't supposed to figure it out till August. :(
Third line has nothing to do w/ a shooter or hooker. Don't stress about it and get the shakes though. =P

the last line

Though Nooses Darkens

Could that mean 'Darkness soon though'? (with a spare e)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16600098


It's mentioning a shooter.
Or a hooker...but I highly doubt that xD

The first two lines:
Olympic Doom On
August Disaster
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Explain Romney (morman) & 12/21 connection?

Thanks.
hi
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First line is close but NOt quite.
Second line is right, but you weren't supposed to figure it out till August. :(
Third line has nothing to do w/ a shooter or hooker. Don't stress about it and get the shakes though. =P
 Quoting: the darkness comes

Nukes?

And it's fine the only 'doom' I'm concerned about is new madrid.
"Other people have a purpose; I alone don't know. I drift like a wave on the ocean, I blow as aimless as the wind."
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OH MY GOD !

EARTH SHOOK !
That's why you said don't get the shakes!

and these are the remaining letters: oug Nse Dn
I'm not sure what they could spell out, maybe a location or something o.o
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gone for a while
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gone for a while
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and still no answer
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gone for a while
 Quoting: the darkness comes


and still no answer
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maybe he just doesn't have one. he doesn't know everything. no one does.
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Yes, it makes sense only if that frame of mind wasn't forced upon people. Judging by Russian civilisation - everything was fine up until the time when globalists wanted to mess everything up. Look at Russia. Only country in the world with no castles, nonetheless, always defeated everyone attacking it on pure land. Main casualties the red (Lenin and Trocky) army got is from the rural areas, where lived humans, who knew, what they stood for. The state of mind you are trying to convey people of new world to was present in that society, and it was destroyed by force. When alcohol and smoke were introduced there were riots everywhere in the country. The same story as during Opium wars in China. Peter the first (that was killed when was in Netherlands) i.e. his replacement, got back from Europe with all this crap and made laws to implement drugs as being part of the culture, which it never were.

This is the rock I can't wrap my head around. Because everything you say makes perfect sense, and, alas, I almost support what you do. But it's justified only in case if people themselves would go astray w/o anyone else showing how to and not explaining - why not.
For instance, telling someone that smoking will relief stress without telling them that it will make them addicted and all those other consequences, and how does the programming work, is a forceful pushing of people into the grave. Forcefully make them forget the history of their kin so that they would be easily to manipulate with. Without all this manipulation no war would ever occur. People would hold to the high moral values left over by their elders and everything we know now would be available at least 1000 years sooner.
Do you understand, what makes me reluctant to the whole idea elites are doing?

P.S. If you will answer - progress happen very slow if you do not stir it with disasters, then I will reply in advance: are you a god to decide how fast anyone have to ascend? Why not letting every consciousness to go by their own small steps to the higher realisation? What's the difference, now or in a million years?
Russian proverb: "The slower you will go, the further you will get."
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They are criminal liars.

Do not give attention to them.

Their philosophy of "growth through suffering" is an attempt of criminals to justify their criminal actions.

GOD DOES NOT APPROVE OF IT.
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But who caused the degradation it in the first place? Who is dividing and conquering? The "new" mindset of NWO is not new. It is as old as the oldest humanish remnants were found like 800,000 years if not older. All I want is a real reason - why all this -> the last 5 000 years <- were initiated in the first place. As before - the whole thread hasn't got an answer, and every single time I ask this, implicit or explicit question, I get an elusive answer.
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Oh yes I've wondered this as well. What happened that made the manipulation necessary? I know that the separation between the 'elite' (hate that word, i believe all humans are equal) and the people was at Mt. Hermon...but why wasn't the given knowledge spread to everyone? I have some hypotheses but that's all they are....hypotheses. (i'm very very tired so keep that in mind. i make might typing mistakes. these also arnt very detailed just basic overviews of my thoughts)

1. Interference from Yaldabaoth. He could have tried messing with humanity because he didn't like that the watchers gave away a bunch of knowledge, ending with most of humanity having false beliefs. Then the 'elite' do what supernatural entities order them and try to help humanity, even if their initial actions don't look beneficial. Yaldabaoth tried to do things to hurt people and prevent them from discovering the Divine Light within us all. This could explain the religions that were set up. Yes religions are used to control, but they also have another purpose in bringing out the Divine Light in us and helping people reach their full potential. I know many many people who the only reason they're still alive is because of their faith. Religions isn't always a bad thing like so many people say so.

2. The 'elite' are power-hungry bastards, and planned to use their newfound knowledge at mr hermon to control the world, and they program the people and keep away knowledge simply because they hate the masses and want all the truth to themselves. They don't want us leaving earth, so they try to keep us here. This idea doesn't make snese to me....because of how fervent i guess you could say they are in their goals. What's the point if all they get is control? And besides, no enlightened thinker will make money and power over others their priority. thats not rtue winsdom.

3. The knowledge handed down at Mt Hermon was ordered by the Watchers to be kept secret, and the people who it was handed down to were ordered to watch over humanity (explains programming to change mindset for our own good). They were also ordered that to make it available for anyone to discover the truth, but there would need to be a system set up so that only those who really wanted to know the truth would know it. This explains the prevalent secret socieities and mystery schools in the ancient days, it also explains why there are constant lies fed in the media, and why so much false info is given along with the truth. weeds out those who want knowlede,understanding,wisdom and ones who dont. and can even tie in with #1 if u just change some small details. this one makes the most sense to me, i just feel it. but i could be wrong.

those are the only explanations i can think of. if mr insider man wants to share why the programming and manipulating was needed, like the original reason please do so
 Quoting: Lawlliet Candy


They LIE.

They have no 'wisdom'.

They ARE criminals.

Period.
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But of course I do not justify everything that they do. For instance, Hidden Hand openly admitting that she was trained (tortured) as a child to the point of her mind fracturing and splitting into alters, and she is still heavily programmed and under control. Evidence is her belief that she is Lucifer. I don't know why certain groups do this, and it is terrible and should not be done. I don't even know why this type of behavior was ever allowed in the first place. That's one of my main questions I have yet to ask about this: Why? I understand the wars and the programming of the people through tv, food, religions…. but the torture of a child to dissociation….I cannot fathom. Christopher can you say why this type of abuse occurs? If you can't say why, I understand. It just makes me so sad and I don't understand why this evil would ever happen....


 Quoting: Lawlliet Candy


I said: they are CRIMINALS.

Pedophile criminals!

Which pedophile has "wisdom"?

They are PERVERTS.

They need DUMB CHILDREN SO THEY CAN FEEL LIKE THEY ARE GODS!

FILTHY TRASH. ALL OF THEM.

And their stupid miserable "rich" wives.
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those are the only explanations i can think of. if mr insider man wants to share why the programming and manipulating was needed, like the original reason please do so
 Quoting: Lawlliet Candy


People can achieve ascension without being subdued to the constant suffering. Source: scientific experiments.
As long as you create a constructive information field (positive environment) around the masses - they will ascend and use up their genetically conditioned potential.

The only way I can see this being justified is: elites want every person on the planet to come to the verge of elitist self awareness. For instance, in soviet union people had high moral values and society in general was safe and people were helpful, but, once USSR was destroyed masses were tricked back into degrading state.
If the elites are the good guys, they want all people in the world, in spite of any event that happens in the world, to remain humans. To be leaders of their lives and so on, if you get my point. In other words, make all sheep the shepherds. Kill the - instinct of the mass in people.

In this case, I cannot see how it can be done with positive programming and everything that happens now is justified.
 Quoting: The Russian


And of course they don't lift a finger through HARD WORK, doing all these philantropic work for us...

Sounds like Masons in Brasilia - mystical capital of Brazil - where they all steal peoples money...

Of course for our "spiritual growth".

Same shit, different pile!

Don't buy into their BULLSHIT.

THEY ARE CRIMINALS!

THEY RAPE CHILDREN!!!

CHILDRENNNN!!!!

GOD SENDS CHILDREN INNOCENT AGAIN AND AGAIN, AND THEY TRY TO DESTROY GODS CREATIONS!!

THEY ARE GARBAGE INCARNATED!!!

ALWAYS HAVE BEEN!!

Just like the "petty" criminals that they like to send to HORRIBLE BRRAZILIAN JAILS!!!

TRASH!! ALL OF THEM!!! TRASH!!!
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Someone's in a bad mood o.O
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NO OLYMPIC DOOM, AUGUST DISASTER, EARTH SHOOK DUNGEONS, referring to the underground bases???

Or, is it DUNGEONS SHOOK EARTH, still referring to underground bases being the cause?

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NO OLYMPIC DOOM, AUGUST DISASTER, EARTH SHOOK DUNGEONS, referring to the underground bases???
 Quoting: AGENT_P


DAMMIT WHERE WERE YOU EARLIER WHILE OP WAS STILL HERE??
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THEY RAPE CHILDREN!!!

CHILDRENNNN!!!!

GOD SENDS CHILDREN INNOCENT AGAIN AND AGAIN, AND THEY TRY TO DESTROY GODS CREATIONS!!

THEY ARE GARBAGE INCARNATED!!!

ALWAYS HAVE BEEN!!

Just like the "petty" criminals that they like to send to HORRIBLE BRRAZILIAN JAILS!!!

TRASH!! ALL OF THEM!!! TRASH!!!
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Hey, Chris, can you and your friends, please stop raping children? Otherwise this lad will be mad at you alone


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