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What do you want to know about magick aside from how to completely do a ritual? I'll tell you halfway about one but not the key to it. I don't like giving random people bombs. =D
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How would you go about seeing into the astral realm? Drugs are fine, if it helps.
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With big enough hints. boooo! Damn you, Scooby Doo! I didn't say what makes the ground shake though. =D Could just be a tank going by to make it shake or a massive earthquake. Who knows? :(

First line is close but NOt quite.
Second line is right, but you weren't supposed to figure it out till August. :(
Third line has nothing to do w/ a shooter or hooker. Don't stress about it and get the shakes though. =P

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It's mentioning a shooter.
Or a hooker...but I highly doubt that xD

The first two lines:
Olympic Doom On
August Disaster
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No Olympics Doom
August Disaster
The Ground Shakes Soon

There are plenty of interwebs that will let you play with anagrams to your something's content.
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No scooby snack for me?
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May 2012 was meant for the Vatican. Just google "may 2012 earthquake italy". Such a short term memory? Why not persist in trying? Practice makes perfect.

Pure and good thoughts derail bad? Please! Try this experiment. Find a group of 5 men and 5 women (they must have kids) who are party animals and neglecting their kids because of this. Now try being "nice" to their "evil" and make em change their ways. Tell me how far it gets your goal. Next try ruining the party w/ sinister means and come tell me how more efficient "bad" is over being "nice".

*Muslim based (many here neglect their foreknowledge)*

past end-times sign (in no order)
1. Christians and Muslims battled each other in a series of great wars (Crusades)
2. a nation reached 1 billion in population (China, India)
3. visualized past fortification at will (pornography)
4. The people of Iraq will be starved by means of oppression of Christians. (Iraq embargo)


present end-times signs (in no order)
1. great increase in knowledge
2. Arabs raise buildings tall enough to reach the clouds
3. Damascus is heavily damaged
4. young men look more like women
5. every house has something playing music
6. uproar across the Middle East affects every citizen
7. When the Muslims are so numerous they're like "foam in the sea", the nations of Earth gather against the Muslims like hungry people going to sit down to a table full of food.
8. Rain is acidic.
9. difficulty distinguishing the seasons (winter like spring, fall like summer)
10. Humans understand some animal languages.


future end-times signs (in no order)
1. the sun will rise from the place it sets, hold place in the sky, then normally set again
2. after the sun does this a very cold wind will kill millions
3. the Muslim "Hidden Imam" appears
4. the Euphrates River discloses a mountain of riches, this will start a major battle for ownership of the riches
5. appearance of Antichrist/Dajjal/Armilus
6. appearance of Beast Out of the Earth
7. third building of Solomon's Temple
8. Second Coming of Jesus - either figurative or literal, old religions will be replaced including Christianity (Christ will "break the cross")
9. Global Rennaisance, major wars fuck off
 Quoting: the darkness comes


from 11th may - with your earthquake aspirations posted on the same page

soz if i called this "present end times signs" a ' FAILED prediction'

another FAILED shit stirring aspiration would have been more appropriate

glad to see you can at least acknowledge the abject lack of power your rituals carry in achieving even the slightest unnatural rumble on the planet

and yes i do know how much power would be required by a ritual to achieve a deliberate earthquake which is why i found it risible then and now that you persist in trying

your rubbish magic couldn't cause a rumble in my pants let alone in god's good earth


do you know what power is required to derail your rubbish magic ?

not much - pure thoughts and pure aspirations do seem to go a very long way

go get some sun on your next hols pal , it will do you the world of good
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Why interfere at all, unless they threaten your own sovereignty? Yes, call me old fashioned.
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May 2012 was meant for the Vatican. Just google "may 2012 earthquake italy". Such a short term memory? Why not persist in trying? Practice makes perfect.

Pure and good thoughts derail bad? Please! Try this experiment. Find a group of 5 men and 5 women (they must have kids) who are party animals and neglecting their kids because of this. Now try being "nice" to their "evil" and make em change their ways. Tell me how far it gets your goal. Next try ruining the party w/ sinister means and come tell me how more efficient "bad" is over being "nice".

*Muslim based (many here neglect their foreknowledge)*

past end-times sign (in no order)
1. Christians and Muslims battled each other in a series of great wars (Crusades)
2. a nation reached 1 billion in population (China, India)
3. visualized past fortification at will (pornography)
4. The people of Iraq will be starved by means of oppression of Christians. (Iraq embargo)


present end-times signs (in no order)
1. great increase in knowledge
2. Arabs raise buildings tall enough to reach the clouds
3. Damascus is heavily damaged
4. young men look more like women
5. every house has something playing music
6. uproar across the Middle East affects every citizen
7. When the Muslims are so numerous they're like "foam in the sea", the nations of Earth gather against the Muslims like hungry people going to sit down to a table full of food.
8. Rain is acidic.
9. difficulty distinguishing the seasons (winter like spring, fall like summer)
10. Humans understand some animal languages.


future end-times signs (in no order)
1. the sun will rise from the place it sets, hold place in the sky, then normally set again
2. after the sun does this a very cold wind will kill millions
3. the Muslim "Hidden Imam" appears
4. the Euphrates River discloses a mountain of riches, this will start a major battle for ownership of the riches
5. appearance of Antichrist/Dajjal/Armilus
6. appearance of Beast Out of the Earth
7. third building of Solomon's Temple
8. Second Coming of Jesus - either figurative or literal, old religions will be replaced including Christianity (Christ will "break the cross")
9. Global Rennaisance, major wars fuck off
 Quoting: the darkness comes


from 11th may - with your earthquake aspirations posted on the same page

soz if i called this "present end times signs" a ' FAILED prediction'

another FAILED shit stirring aspiration would have been more appropriate

glad to see you can at least acknowledge the abject lack of power your rituals carry in achieving even the slightest unnatural rumble on the planet

and yes i do know how much power would be required by a ritual to achieve a deliberate earthquake which is why i found it risible then and now that you persist in trying

your rubbish magic couldn't cause a rumble in my pants let alone in god's good earth


do you know what power is required to derail your rubbish magic ?

not much - pure thoughts and pure aspirations do seem to go a very long way

go get some sun on your next hols pal , it will do you the world of good
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 Quoting: the darkness comes


Why interfere at all, unless they threaten your own sovereignty? Yes, call me old fashioned.
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You know these people who have an undiying thirst for cocks that consumes them??

We are dealing with these kind of people.
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so, darkness, you speak of "liver fire", ask people questions about their tongue color. I only read the first hundred or so pages of this thread, so please excuse me if you have answered this question. Do you practice Chinese Medicine and Acupuncture? If so, or not, what do you think of these eastern medicine practices?
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May 2012 was meant for the Vatican. Just google "may 2012 earthquake italy". Such a short term memory? Why not persist in trying? Practice makes perfect.

Pure and good thoughts derail bad? Please! Try this experiment. Find a group of 5 men and 5 women (they must have kids) who are party animals and neglecting their kids because of this. Now try being "nice" to their "evil" and make em change their ways. Tell me how far it gets your goal. Next try ruining the party w/ sinister means and come tell me how more efficient "bad" is over being "nice".

*Muslim based (many here neglect their foreknowledge)*

past end-times sign (in no order)
1. Christians and Muslims battled each other in a series of great wars (Crusades)
2. a nation reached 1 billion in population (China, India)
3. visualized past fortification at will (pornography)
4. The people of Iraq will be starved by means of oppression of Christians. (Iraq embargo)


present end-times signs (in no order)
1. great increase in knowledge
2. Arabs raise buildings tall enough to reach the clouds
3. Damascus is heavily damaged
4. young men look more like women
5. every house has something playing music
6. uproar across the Middle East affects every citizen
7. When the Muslims are so numerous they're like "foam in the sea", the nations of Earth gather against the Muslims like hungry people going to sit down to a table full of food.
8. Rain is acidic.
9. difficulty distinguishing the seasons (winter like spring, fall like summer)
10. Humans understand some animal languages.


future end-times signs (in no order)
1. the sun will rise from the place it sets, hold place in the sky, then normally set again
2. after the sun does this a very cold wind will kill millions
3. the Muslim "Hidden Imam" appears
4. the Euphrates River discloses a mountain of riches, this will start a major battle for ownership of the riches
5. appearance of Antichrist/Dajjal/Armilus
6. appearance of Beast Out of the Earth
7. third building of Solomon's Temple
8. Second Coming of Jesus - either figurative or literal, old religions will be replaced including Christianity (Christ will "break the cross")
9. Global Rennaisance, major wars fuck off
 Quoting: the darkness comes


from 11th may - with your earthquake aspirations posted on the same page

soz if i called this "present end times signs" a ' FAILED prediction'

another FAILED shit stirring aspiration would have been more appropriate

glad to see you can at least acknowledge the abject lack of power your rituals carry in achieving even the slightest unnatural rumble on the planet

and yes i do know how much power would be required by a ritual to achieve a deliberate earthquake which is why i found it risible then and now that you persist in trying

your rubbish magic couldn't cause a rumble in my pants let alone in god's good earth


do you know what power is required to derail your rubbish magic ?

not much - pure thoughts and pure aspirations do seem to go a very long way

go get some sun on your next hols pal , it will do you the world of good
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aw chris , bless your cotton socks

here's a small pic of the global earthquake activity today
[link to www.iris.edu]

it's a busy world - italy , as you can see, is dotted pink with all the activity it sees and has seen over the last 5 yrs , so probability of your 'power' having consequence -in a betting man's world - is weak
claim away , though , if it makes you feel better


so i've to take eye of newt, skin of toad and 5 adults with kids who party
and infuse them with good - by telling them they are evil ?

and see this 'good' fail -and that makes your point valid , that makes 'evil' more powerful than 'good'

um okay

i guess you have to believe that

how horrifying for you should you be wrong

such a black and white perspective of life

duality begets black and white- but duality is only stage one of a broadened perspective

i'll agree that the majority see things in black and white - so you could easily be deceived - on that dimension- that your 'power' is substantial
tis of no consequence in the bigger scheme of things - well potentially of consequence for you and yours , living within that template

but 7 fold man is rainbow

and rainbows bow over the one dimensional checker board of duality in which you play

it was said by a wise man that players can only see their level and those beneath it- can't see above , just below

your dualised perception limits your view to one dimension

and of course , you are right from that perspective - how tantalising
how easily decieved when looking through a glass darkly

but given that truth is paradoxically shifted , when looking at different dimensions , wouldn't you be wiser to broaden your perspective and see what lies over the rainbow?
instead of what's lurking beneath your checkered floor ?

just a thought


btw - once you know better , responsibility for ignoring that knowledge and the karmic debt incurred , grows

keep that in mind
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yo Chris,

What do you think about with regards to Israel's settlements in the west bank?
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Antisocial is the greatest compliment. Mainstream American society lives in Leave It to Beaver world; everything at right angles; 2.1 children; abundance out the ASS meanwhile others starve; then this "gold medal winner of consumerism" casts judgement on "why oh WHY is society so flawed?!" . . . we will look everywhere expect in the mirror.

Why would a psychopath care about what society thinks of him? (i'm not being sarcastic or anything but am asking a real question regarding social programming)

Or are you talking about his soul being healed after a number of reincarnations?
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Mormons=nutbags

Radical Islam=nutbags

nutbag+nutbag=war of the nutbags

what 2012 REALLY (research it) said=return of war god

Explain Romney (morman) & 12/21 connection?

Thanks.
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Mormons=nutbags

Radical Islam=nutbags

nutbag+nutbag=war of the nutbags

what 2012 REALLY (research it) said=return of war god

Explain Romney (morman) & 12/21 connection?

Thanks.
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You said something will take over his body... Almost like being possessed... Will you explain?
"Just as you may have been born into a religion, so was Jesus. Like many peep, he looked *outside* that structured belief system for answers; the result of that became his teachings. Those original teachings were edited out of what you think of as the Bible. That which didn't scare people did not serve the church & its agenda"
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“At the next creation (Dec 2012), the Bolon Yokte, or Nine Support Gods, will return.”

Is close enough translation to what Mayans said. Look up the REAL translation. It's only a few lines. Bolon Yokte K'uh is god of transformation and creation through war/destruction. If all goes to planned it will enter into the next American President or a major world leader to set the wheels in motion for a REAL war. Now ffs I can't lay it out better than this. =D

Mormons=nutbags

Radical Islam=nutbags

nutbag+nutbag=war of the nutbags

what 2012 REALLY (research it) said=return of war god

Explain Romney (morman) & 12/21 connection?

Thanks.
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You said something will take over his body... Almost like being possessed... Will you explain?
 Quoting: Cammi
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“At the next creation (Dec 2012), the Bolon Yokte, or Nine Support Gods, will return.”

Is close enough translation to what Mayans said. Look up the REAL translation. It's only a few lines. Bolon Yokte K'uh is god of transformation and creation through war/destruction. If all goes to planned it will enter into the next American President or a major world leader to set the wheels in motion for a REAL war. Now ffs I can't lay it out better than this. =D

Mormons=nutbags

Radical Islam=nutbags

nutbag+nutbag=war of the nutbags

what 2012 REALLY (research it) said=return of war god

Explain Romney (morman) & 12/21 connection?

Thanks.
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You said something will take over his body... Almost like being possessed... Will you explain?
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Chill out Chris, sheesh!
"Just as you may have been born into a religion, so was Jesus. Like many peep, he looked *outside* that structured belief system for answers; the result of that became his teachings. Those original teachings were edited out of what you think of as the Bible. That which didn't scare people did not serve the church & its agenda"
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This is soooo funny.

First line is close but NOt quite.
Second line is right, but you weren't supposed to figure it out till August. :(
Third line has nothing to do w/ a shooter or hooker. Don't stress about it and get the shakes though. =P
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Nukes?

And it's fine the only 'doom' I'm concerned about is new madrid.
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Was your question why play God? Let's say you eliminate the top 5% of power holders in the world. All elites at the top - GONE. You have total freedom and liberty. Eventually, some humans give into their animal side and wreak havoc. People form a group to stop them. Over time the group's power corrupts the group itself. Boom! You have elite all over again. It'll happen no matter what.

gone for a while
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and still no answer
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That's where wisdom begins, knowing and accepting what you don't know.

gone for a while
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and still no answer
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maybe he just doesn't have one. he doesn't know everything. no one does.
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Don't have much time to answer this in detail. Research "Hot Foot Powder" and how to make it (best you do it yourself and not let someone else do it; because this reduces the power). Look up what rituals to use it in to repel someone.

What do you want to know about magick aside from how to completely do a ritual? I'll tell you halfway about one but not the key to it. I don't like giving random people bombs. =D
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I'm not the one who asked, but any rituals to get an ex husband to go away and quit making trouble? I don't want anything from him but for him to go away.
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Just to be **OUTSTANDINGLY, BLARINGLY** clear I admit I cannot predict the future. I only try to influence it. Isn't this what we all do?

All this "live and let live", "don't judge", and similar Jesus-like attitudes are dead. Jesus preached and gave his life for these things. What did it get him? A failed religion. Like Jesus lit the fuse of Christianity, then Jesus ran back expecting a rocket into space. What happened? The religion exploded on the launchpad.
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Messiahs were exploited by elites, which in turn created religion to keep a biologically conditioned potential (power of will) in chains, so that people would stop thinking and would hope for the best, like cattle. I've heard several times a version that presumably comes from libraries of Vatican.
Jesus was walking and preaching his things, and some lad was following and writing it all down. Then he asked that lad to give him to read, what he has written and Jesus was shocked saying that nothing that was written was said by him, and he asked lad to erase everything, but the writer ran away.

So yet again, ancient prophets caused these preachings to "not work".

Pure and good thoughts derail bad? Please! Try this experiment. Find a group of 5 men and 5 women (they must have kids) who are party animals and neglecting their kids because of this. Now try being "nice" to their "evil" and make em change their ways. Tell me how far it gets your goal. Next try ruining the party w/ sinister means and come tell me how more efficient "bad" is over being "nice".
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It will take more than one party to change someone. Put all the "good" on TV w/o destuctive subliminal messaging for 2 years and you will have a close to perfetc society.
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What attracted you to him in the first place?

May 2012 was meant for the Vatican. Just google "may 2012 earthquake italy". Such a short term memory? Why not persist in trying? Practice makes perfect.

Pure and good thoughts derail bad? Please! Try this experiment. Find a group of 5 men and 5 women (they must have kids) who are party animals and neglecting their kids because of this. Now try being "nice" to their "evil" and make em change their ways. Tell me how far it gets your goal. Next try ruining the party w/ sinister means and come tell me how more efficient "bad" is over being "nice".
 Quoting: the darkness comes

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~~~~~~~~~~~~

again ~ I'm not the person you were responding to here. I agree with you on this. I have learned the hard way that you can't fix or even help by being nice to someone's evil. That may sometimes be necessary as a temporary measure to keep one's own self safe (from the evil person), but in the long run, it solves nothing.

Especially when dealing with a psychopath, or sociopath, or someone with narcissistic personality disorder .... kindness and compliance only feed their madness and may lead to them being more cruel. Do it as temporary measure when necessary to stay alive, or blend ~ if you're not yet ready to stand out.

But, in the long run, do you run and hide . . . or sit and blend . . . ? Or do you step forward, make a stand, and do what is necessary to change things . . . ?

The problem with this model is that not everyone is a psychopath, or sociopath, or someone with narcissistic personality disorder ... and not everyone are stupid sheep following evil orders or plans. All who fall in that category may need a particular future to teach them things . . . or change them in ways they may not have been otherwise.

But should everybody have that future . . . ? I don't think so.

btw I am the one who asked you about ritual to get an ex husband to go away. He is in the above mentioned category . ... someone who seems to have no conscience, no remorse, and lies better than most people tell the truth (I've realized he must do this by first believing his own lies.)He fools everybody. He fooled me long enough to marry me and impregnate me. He will never ever fool me again, but because we have a child, I have to continue dealing with him. He goes away for periods of time, but then always comes back around making trouble. He can be obsessive and cruel and calculating. The few who know his true self run from him, including our child. The other people he fools. He completely lacks empathy. I've never personally known anybody like him. Prior to that, I was naive and would have thought love and kindness can fix anything. Now I've truly awoken to the dualism that people speak of, and I understand what you are saying.
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I'd *guess* it's 10-40% effective in certain disorders whereas placebo is about 5-20% effective. It's a supplement. Think of it like the 10% ethanol in gasoline. It doesn't harm the environment (your body) as badly, doesn't pollute (your body with toxins), and is more natural.

so, darkness, you speak of "liver fire", ask people questions about their tongue color. I only read the first hundred or so pages of this thread, so please excuse me if you have answered this question. Do you practice Chinese Medicine and Acupuncture? If so, or not, what do you think of these eastern medicine practices?
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For the AC with the non empathetic ex husband-- I'm sure you have heard of this but in case you haven't he sounds like a "Narcissist" or has
narcissistic personality disorder

This comes as a result of deep seated insecurity and they suffer the need for grandness and approval at all costs to everyone around them. They don't have the ability to see anyone elses needs except their own and they can't be cured with therapy. In fact therapy can make them worse. They can't tolerate criticism and can be very dangerous.

There are lots of books, web-sites and information on the web on the subject and support groups for those who have to deal with such individuals. They give advice on how to manage your interactions with them.

It is not your ex-husbands fault he is this way, somehow he was damaged in his formative years--one way can be parents demanding that the love they feel for their children is performance based.

I think as your child grows it would be important to get her some counseling to help her process the fact that she is not to blame for this and she can't do anything to change him.

Narcissists are 75% male, and many men in positions of power have this condition. Power, control and adoration are what they crave, but it never is enough and the pain never goes away.

People who are honest can easily be blindsided by these narcissists as people tend to assume that others think like they do.

Good luck to you, this could happen to anyone.hf
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What attracted you to him in the first place?

May 2012 was meant for the Vatican. Just google "may 2012 earthquake italy". Such a short term memory? Why not persist in trying? Practice makes perfect.

Pure and good thoughts derail bad? Please! Try this experiment. Find a group of 5 men and 5 women (they must have kids) who are party animals and neglecting their kids because of this. Now try being "nice" to their "evil" and make em change their ways. Tell me how far it gets your goal. Next try ruining the party w/ sinister means and come tell me how more efficient "bad" is over being "nice".
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~~~~~~~~~~~~

again ~ I'm not the person you were responding to here. I agree with you on this. I have learned the hard way that you can't fix or even help by being nice to someone's evil. That may sometimes be necessary as a temporary measure to keep one's own self safe (from the evil person), but in the long run, it solves nothing.

Especially when dealing with a psychopath, or sociopath, or someone with narcissistic personality disorder .... kindness and compliance only feed their madness and may lead to them being more cruel. Do it as temporary measure when necessary to stay alive, or blend ~ if you're not yet ready to stand out.

But, in the long run, do you run and hide . . . or sit and blend . . . ? Or do you step forward, make a stand, and do what is necessary to change things . . . ?

The problem with this model is that not everyone is a psychopath, or sociopath, or someone with narcissistic personality disorder ... and not everyone are stupid sheep following evil orders or plans. All who fall in that category may need a particular future to teach them things . . . or change them in ways they may not have been otherwise.

But should everybody have that future . . . ? I don't think so.

btw I am the one who asked you about ritual to get an ex husband to go away. He is in the above mentioned category . ... someone who seems to have no conscience, no remorse, and lies better than most people tell the truth (I've realized he must do this by first believing his own lies.)He fools everybody. He fooled me long enough to marry me and impregnate me. He will never ever fool me again, but because we have a child, I have to continue dealing with him. He goes away for periods of time, but then always comes back around making trouble. He can be obsessive and cruel and calculating. The few who know his true self run from him, including our child. The other people he fools. He completely lacks empathy. I've never personally known anybody like him. Prior to that, I was naive and would have thought love and kindness can fix anything. Now I've truly awoken to the dualism that people speak of, and I understand what you are saying.
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I was never super-attracted to him; I just thought he was nice, reliable, consistent, etc. He persistently pursued me and was nice to me, seemed safe. It was after I was married and with child that a completely different side of him came out . . . cruel, abusive . . . seeming to completely lack a conscience or a soul ~ or at least having only a rudimentary beginner's model.

I didn't know because he has learned somewhere along the way to completely fake these things and fool everybody. He is not extremely intelligent but he studies and obsesses to say the right words in any situation to anybody regardless of if they are lies. He says them convincingly as if they are truth. He fools everybody with his lies and persona that is not the real him at all. He seems almost mostly empty inside. It is as if a parasite inhabits a human body and walks around appearing human and saying the right things, but once he acquires prey, he locks on as long as he can, and it's feeding time.

I have never known anyone like him before or since, and only want him AWAY.
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For the AC with the non empathetic ex husband-- I'm sure you have heard of this but in case you haven't he sounds like a "Narcissist" or has
narcissistic personality disorder

This comes as a result of deep seated insecurity and they suffer the need for grandness and approval at all costs to everyone around them. They don't have the ability to see anyone elses needs except their own and they can't be cured with therapy. In fact therapy can make them worse. They can't tolerate criticism and can be very dangerous.

There are lots of books, web-sites and information on the web on the subject and support groups for those who have to deal with such individuals. They give advice on how to manage your interactions with them.

It is not your ex-husbands fault he is this way, somehow he was damaged in his formative years--one way can be parents demanding that the love they feel for their children is performance based.

I think as your child grows it would be important to get her some counseling to help her process the fact that she is not to blame for this and she can't do anything to change him.

Narcissists are 75% male, and many men in positions of power have this condition. Power, control and adoration are what they crave, but it never is enough and the pain never goes away.

People who are honest can easily be blindsided by these narcissists as people tend to assume that others think like they do.

Good luck to you, this could happen to anyone.hf
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Thank you so much. Yes, I felt so stupid to end up in that as it is not my pattern, but never again. Just still dealing with this one.

Right before I left him (years ago), I did find the stuff on narcissistic personality disorder and thought, Oh wow ~ this explains so much! My compassion and empathy (which have been some of my greatest gifts my whole life) he just ate up and used against me. I don't know if it's npd or sociopath, but I have seen elements of both that fit him.

He LOVES counseling and has done years of it because it makes him feel special to go talk about himself, even though he is telling them lies. He even went to AA for a while and was actually chairing meetings while he was going off on drinking binges on the side. He wasn't even required to go to meetings, yet he was not only going ~ he was leading meetings and lying.

After not being around much for a while,he came around now with a bunch of lies filing for custody. He started his process of fooling people again ~with the courts ~ (Ah yes, he was abusive before, but he's a changed man . . . and all that bullshit. They don't know what I know ~that he never changes, that the second they walk away, he's already talking to our child like shit; they come back around, and he's acting all nice and loving and concerned.)

Fortunately the counselor who is seeing us all has taken kindly to my child and me and has interceded on our behalf to get my ex to quit having visits for a few weeks as his coming back around has caused our child to regress so much, almost unrecognizable, and he goes into panic fight or flight, trying to frantically run from his dad. My child really likes the counselor and is already doing better with not seeing his dad. He has other positive male role models in his life,and I really wish my ex would just go away, as it always ends up really badly when he comes back around.

Sorry Chris for this long tangent. But thanks for your tips. And thank you Still Here hf
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May 2012 was meant for the Vatican. Just google "may 2012 earthquake italy". Such a short term memory? Why not persist in trying? Practice makes perfect.

Pure and good thoughts derail bad? Please! Try this experiment. Find a group of 5 men and 5 women (they must have kids) who are party animals and neglecting their kids because of this. Now try being "nice" to their "evil" and make em change their ways. Tell me how far it gets your goal. Next try ruining the party w/ sinister means and come tell me how more efficient "bad" is over being "nice".

*Muslim based (many here neglect their foreknowledge)*

past end-times sign (in no order)
1. Christians and Muslims battled each other in a series of great wars (Crusades)
2. a nation reached 1 billion in population (China, India)
3. visualized past fortification at will (pornography)
4. The people of Iraq will be starved by means of oppression of Christians. (Iraq embargo)


present end-times signs (in no order)
1. great increase in knowledge
2. Arabs raise buildings tall enough to reach the clouds
3. Damascus is heavily damaged
4. young men look more like women
5. every house has something playing music
6. uproar across the Middle East affects every citizen
7. When the Muslims are so numerous they're like "foam in the sea", the nations of Earth gather against the Muslims like hungry people going to sit down to a table full of food.
8. Rain is acidic.
9. difficulty distinguishing the seasons (winter like spring, fall like summer)
10. Humans understand some animal languages.


future end-times signs (in no order)
1. the sun will rise from the place it sets, hold place in the sky, then normally set again
2. after the sun does this a very cold wind will kill millions
3. the Muslim "Hidden Imam" appears
4. the Euphrates River discloses a mountain of riches, this will start a major battle for ownership of the riches
5. appearance of Antichrist/Dajjal/Armilus
6. appearance of Beast Out of the Earth
7. third building of Solomon's Temple
8. Second Coming of Jesus - either figurative or literal, old religions will be replaced including Christianity (Christ will "break the cross")
9. Global Rennaisance, major wars fuck off
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from 11th may - with your earthquake aspirations posted on the same page

soz if i called this "present end times signs" a ' FAILED prediction'

another FAILED shit stirring aspiration would have been more appropriate

glad to see you can at least acknowledge the abject lack of power your rituals carry in achieving even the slightest unnatural rumble on the planet

and yes i do know how much power would be required by a ritual to achieve a deliberate earthquake which is why i found it risible then and now that you persist in trying

your rubbish magic couldn't cause a rumble in my pants let alone in god's good earth


do you know what power is required to derail your rubbish magic ?

not much - pure thoughts and pure aspirations do seem to go a very long way

go get some sun on your next hols pal , it will do you the world of good
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Bad tends to get results.
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Just to be **OUTSTANDINGLY, BLARINGLY** clear I admit I cannot predict the future. I only try to influence it. Isn't this what we all do?

All this "live and let live", "don't judge", and similar Jesus-like attitudes are dead. Jesus preached and gave his life for these things. What did it get him? A failed religion. Like Jesus lit the fuse of Christianity, then Jesus ran back expecting a rocket into space. What happened? The religion exploded on the launchpad.
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Messiahs were exploited by elites, which in turn created religion to keep a biologically conditioned potential (power of will) in chains, so that people would stop thinking and would hope for the best, like cattle. I've heard several times a version that presumably comes from libraries of Vatican.
Jesus was walking and preaching his things, and some lad was following and writing it all down. Then he asked that lad to give him to read, what he has written and Jesus was shocked saying that nothing that was written was said by him, and he asked lad to erase everything, but the writer ran away.

So yet again, ancient prophets caused these preachings to "not work".

Pure and good thoughts derail bad? Please! Try this experiment. Find a group of 5 men and 5 women (they must have kids) who are party animals and neglecting their kids because of this. Now try being "nice" to their "evil" and make em change their ways. Tell me how far it gets your goal. Next try ruining the party w/ sinister means and come tell me how more efficient "bad" is over being "nice".
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It will take more than one party to change someone. Put all the "good" on TV w/o destuctive subliminal messaging for 2 years and you will have a close to perfetc society.
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Yup
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That's where wisdom begins, knowing and accepting what you don't know.

gone for a while
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and still no answer
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maybe he just doesn't have one. he doesn't know everything. no one does.
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True. The more you know the more you realize you don't know.
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Was your question why play God? Let's say you eliminate the top 5% of power holders in the world. All elites at the top - GONE. You have total freedom and liberty. Eventually, some humans give into their animal side and wreak havoc. People form a group to stop them. Over time the group's power corrupts the group itself. Boom! You have elite all over again. It'll happen no matter what.

gone for a while
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and still no answer
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That is why history always repeats itself.
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Was your question why play God? Let's say you eliminate the top 5% of power holders in the world. All elites at the top - GONE. You have total freedom and liberty. Eventually, some humans give into their animal side and wreak havoc. People form a group to stop them. Over time the group's power corrupts the group itself. Boom! You have elite all over again. It'll happen no matter what.

gone for a while
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and still no answer
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Now of course it will happen. Elites have set everything into auto-synchronisation. They do not need to watch over every single human being to know what's going to happen.

Despite that, leave people alone and they by definition will become humans automatically. You cannot turn off the nature around us. We adapt to the informational environment that surrounds us the most. W/o propaganda, people subconsciously will observe nature as it was thousands years ago.

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sociopath, but I have seen elements of both that fit him.

He LOVES counseling and has done years of it because it makes him feel special to go talk about himself, even though he is telling them lies. He even went to AA for a while and was actually chairing meetings while he was going off on drinking binges on the side. He wasn't even required to go to meetings, yet he was not only going ~ he was leading meetings and lying.



Sorry Chris for this long tangent. But thanks for your tips. And thank you Still Here hf


You are right, they love attention and talking about themselves--marriage counseling would have made things worse, or therapy where the therapist was seeing the "real" person and calling them out on their lies. Glad to hear you have an advocate for yourself and child. Keep vigilant it is a battle.hf
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I am a starseed, please help me!
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What's wrong?

I am as well, maybe I could help?
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Every 4 years, like the Olympics, all the leading minds (regardless of country or situation) should gather for 1 month and exchange ideas on everything except military technology. They would have to gather online or in different cities; because for security reasons - losing these ppl by having them ALL gathered would set back the world a generation. Agriculture, human sciences, biology, chemistry, earth sciences, language & literature, environment sciences, history, mathematics, psychology, political science, sociology, economics, learning/teaching methods, music theory, art, philosophy, and all branches of engineering are good groups with which to start. Olympics are fun and all but leave little lasting impact on society. . . aside from memories of pretty bodies running around half naked.

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