Elite Family Insider Returns for Q&A

For instance, write the bible the way it is written. How can he trick a human being into dancing the way he wants it and why the real god didn't interfere and stopped it?

Uh, and any examples could you provide from a known history, that you (elites) have attempted to program people in a decent way, but they showed signs (what signs?) of not complying with the plan of greater good? That you deduced from that that it cannot be done any other way than through suffering?

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To clarify, was he 'programmed' in some way to enact this ritual by you and yours? Was he conscious of being part of the ritual or has he been remotely used as a pawn? What is the purpose of this ritual and how do you personally feel about it? Where did he get all that equipment if he was unemployed, not to mention the training?

Bear is an animal, proper you would say "bare in mind"

no, it is actually bear in mind.

Because humans are easily tricked and took astray. Feed a dog enough, and it thinks you're God.

The true God rarely interferes in human affairs. Humans aren't important enough in the scheme of things to warrant much attention. I know that's an ego killer for human arrogance, but that's how it is. Humans think they deserve special treatment simply because they exist. It takes great thoughts and deeds to warrant Divine intervention. This intervention often comes in a form which seems bad at the time, but is helpful in the long run. Human arrogance is perfectly displayed in a work by Voltaire. I forget the title, and I may be twisting the plot. The story is about humans discovering an alien spaceship headed for Earth. So collective humanity freaks out and assembles a giant weapon. We're all ready for this UFO to arrive. The UFO goes right past Earth and never looks back. We simply didn't matter enough for the aliens to even slow down.

Ancient Athens was a civilization ppl were well-programmed and went astray. They became distracted by the material world far too much, as did the British, Chinese, American empires. All of them. They became distracted by one bad element or another. Think of how people behave when they lack money and have an abundance of it. When you're dirt poor you can make $20 go a long way. When you're a billionaire that $20 just isn't viewed in the same light. Does that make sense in relation to your question why suffering is necessary for certain frame of mind?

Perhaps he was influenced by external forces? I'm not 100% sure. I feel neutral about it.

Hi Chris, What about Mittens being a candidate for F.P.? Isn't he too old? Where would that leave you?

Hey Chris,

Do you have any advice for aspiring farmers? I'm been thinking about building a small cabin and growing some of my own food lately, the whole off the grid thing. I'm not sure about how big of a task it would be but I suppose the first step is just research.

For example, would you have any pointers on things to look out for with regards to purchasing land?

Also, who or what forces does Batman and Bane represent in the coming drama?

I appreciate it that you continue to contribute to this thread.

Thank you for the correction. You are right and I am wrong, and I learned something new from you so again thank you.

I will no longer correct grammar, I shouldn't have in the first place. I was rushed through high school, didn't learn much of anything.

Yes, it makes sense only if that frame of mind wasn't forced upon people. Judging by Russian civilisation - everything was fine up until the time when globalists wanted to mess everything up. Look at Russia. Only country in the world with no castles, nonetheless, always defeated everyone attacking it on pure land. Main casualties the red (Lenin and Trocky) army got is from the rural areas, where lived humans, who knew, what they stood for. The state of mind you are trying to convey people of new world to was present in that society, and it was destroyed by force. When alcohol and smoke were introduced there were riots everywhere in the country. The same story as during Opium wars in China. Peter the first (that was killed when was in Netherlands) i.e. his replacement, got back from Europe with all this crap and made laws to implement drugs as being part of the culture, which it never were.

This is the rock I can't wrap my head around. Because everything you say makes perfect sense, and, alas, I almost support what you do. But it's justified only in case if people themselves would go astray w/o anyone else showing how to and not explaining - why not.
For instance, telling someone that smoking will relief stress without telling them that it will make them addicted and all those other consequences, and how does the programming work, is a forceful pushing of people into the grave. Forcefully make them forget the history of their kin so that they would be easily to manipulate with. Without all this manipulation no war would ever occur. People would hold to the high moral values left over by their elders and everything we know now would be available at least 1000 years sooner.
Do you understand, what makes me reluctant to the whole idea elites are doing?

P.S. If you will answer - progress happen very slow if you do not stir it with disasters, then I will reply in advance: are you a god to decide how fast anyone have to ascend? Why not letting every consciousness to go by their own small steps to the higher realisation? What's the difference, now or in a million years?
Russian proverb: "The slower you will go, the further you will get."

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Almost! I know God's interested now, and this I can say for a fact. Just incase you are wondering I'm talking about the real GOD.

Do you hear the drums of war raging through the air?

I was told to keep an eye on Paul McCartney.

NO!! It's Ringo you gotta worry about. real talk.

poor Nelson Mandela

why?

The BBC website reports the guy behind a plot in kill Mandela has been found guilty of treason. Not sure if it has any bearing on things.

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They're not direct answers but I think they're good enough. What I'm getting is they're waiting until humanity is united globally and one group mostly dominates before they try enlightening the masses, because apparently that's the best decision. Humanity as a whole must be in a certain mindset. Knowledge/Wisdom is also something an individual must crave and long for, so in the new order if they release truth it will be amongst lies as well. It's our job to sift through them, apparently. Just my current observation.

Response to P.S.: But I thought all of us are "waking up" at our own pace? Isn't that kind of what reincarnation is all about? Also positive options are still being released that we're able to choose from, even though the negative is more abundant. And for speeding up the process, OP has mentioned before that the groups are led by different supernatural entities - Grigori being his.

OP: Who sent the Watchers down here to watch over humanity? Enoch claims that they are the ones who mated with humans. I thought this was one of the worst sins, though? If so it confuses me why you would trust them....because Satan hates all creation. Unless I just have it all wrong.

Oh and thank you for your answers to my earlier questions (I'm N).

Mr Elite Insider, have you seen this?

"To the so-called Illuminati:

I know you now. I see you now.

You struggle for dominion over the world and all men. Therein, lies the seeds of your defeat. You lust after the illusionary, the transitory. Physics works against you.

Your gods, are lesser demons, that any magician could master.

You flaunt your symbols, your plans, your tools...like any poor fool of a super villain.

Yes, you have killed more people than any other. We do not fear death, for we are beyond death.

You have built unassailable fortresses on the Earth. Good for you. You have built sand castles at low tide. The powers you tinker with are small, and there are far greater powers turning towards you. You play with shadows in the morning twilight, soon it will be noon.

How well built are your astral defenses? Can they withstand the force of the gods aligned against you?

Poor creatures of darkness, quit the night and seek the day. Therein lays your only salvation.

I offer you this one warning. There will be no others. Do not proceed with your plans. Slowly back down and away from the abyss and you shall face a lesser judgement on earth.

The Eyes of the Gods are upon you. Act wisely. Give up. Or I will unleash a torrent of magickal power that will wipe you away.

I shall stand between you and humanity. Kill me. I will rise again.

Your time is over.

This is your last warning.

Sincerely yours,

you know who.

P.S. In the end this war will be won not by lies, armies, or weapons...but by quiet heros and little saints."

It's from the blog of some chick who claims to be the Thelemic Messiah, Jack Parson's Moonchold, Babalon Incarnate.

sorry forget the link:

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I agree with everything he said, but he hasn't answered the question - what made them gods to decide that we all are immature and we need to be enlightened. You cannot bring everyone to the same level at once. Maybe one consciousnes has lived 10 lives and the other 110. You cannot expect that the "10 lives consciousness" will show the same self awareness as the other one. Because you cannot run ahead of the train. I've tried for all my school life to run ahead of everyone, and 99.9% of the time I tripped over. One cannot force ascension upon the other. That's where their goals fail to succeed in my understanding.

As of yet - no answer means, yes, they didn't had a reason, hence, it's all for the power and not for the "well being of humanity".

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The initial purpose of the new order is not to make people enlightened, that is a path each individual must follow on his/her own. The New Order is to change the mindset of the people, making it easier for them to follow and value knowledge and wisdom. It doesn't matter if you have lived 10 lifetimes or 110 lifetimes, if you experience a devastating, life-altering event in your current lifetime,your outlook on life will change. But whether or not someone uses his or her new mindset to pursue the truth, that is the individual's choice. You cannot force enlightenment on anyone. I think your confusion is just a misunderstanding.

So in conclusion, based on my current observations, the New Order isn't trying to force enlightenment on the people. But to change the mindset and the priorities of humanity so that a pursuit of truth is easier, as shown when the new economic system was defined early in the thread. Hopefully I make sense...I'm better at understanding concepts through feeling rather than words.

And I'm so happy I've finally found somewhere I can talk about this kind of stuff xD Like seriously these are things running through my head all day and I've never had anywhere to share it before ^-^

But who caused the degradation it in the first place? Who is dividing and conquering? The "new" mindset of NWO is not new. It is as old as the oldest humanish remnants were found like 800,000 years if not older. All I want is a real reason - why all this -> the last 5 000 years <- were initiated in the first place. As before - the whole thread hasn't got an answer, and every single time I ask this, implicit or explicit question, I get an elusive answer.

This is why...

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Oh yes I've wondered this as well. What happened that made the manipulation necessary? I know that the separation between the 'elite' (hate that word, i believe all humans are equal) and the people was at Mt. Hermon...but why wasn't the given knowledge spread to everyone? I have some hypotheses but that's all they are....hypotheses. (i'm very very tired so keep that in mind. i make might typing mistakes. these also arnt very detailed just basic overviews of my thoughts)

1. Interference from Yaldabaoth. He could have tried messing with humanity because he didn't like that the watchers gave away a bunch of knowledge, ending with most of humanity having false beliefs. Then the 'elite' do what supernatural entities order them and try to help humanity, even if their initial actions don't look beneficial. Yaldabaoth tried to do things to hurt people and prevent them from discovering the Divine Light within us all. This could explain the religions that were set up. Yes religions are used to control, but they also have another purpose in bringing out the Divine Light in us and helping people reach their full potential. I know many many people who the only reason they're still alive is because of their faith. Religions isn't always a bad thing like so many people say so.

2. The 'elite' are power-hungry bastards, and planned to use their newfound knowledge at mr hermon to control the world, and they program the people and keep away knowledge simply because they hate the masses and want all the truth to themselves. They don't want us leaving earth, so they try to keep us here. This idea doesn't make snese to me....because of how fervent i guess you could say they are in their goals. What's the point if all they get is control? And besides, no enlightened thinker will make money and power over others their priority. thats not rtue winsdom.

3. The knowledge handed down at Mt Hermon was ordered by the Watchers to be kept secret, and the people who it was handed down to were ordered to watch over humanity (explains programming to change mindset for our own good). They were also ordered that to make it available for anyone to discover the truth, but there would need to be a system set up so that only those who really wanted to know the truth would know it. This explains the prevalent secret socieities and mystery schools in the ancient days, it also explains why there are constant lies fed in the media, and why so much false info is given along with the truth. weeds out those who want knowlede,understanding,wisdom and ones who dont. and can even tie in with #1 if u just change some small details. this one makes the most sense to me, i just feel it. but i could be wrong.

those are the only explanations i can think of. if mr insider man wants to share why the programming and manipulating was needed, like the original reason please do so

People can achieve ascension without being subdued to the constant suffering. Source: scientific experiments.
As long as you create a constructive information field (positive environment) around the masses - they will ascend and use up their genetically conditioned potential.

The only way I can see this being justified is: elites want every person on the planet to come to the verge of elitist self awareness. For instance, in soviet union people had high moral values and society in general was safe and people were helpful, but, once USSR was destroyed masses were tricked back into degrading state.
If the elites are the good guys, they want all people in the world, in spite of any event that happens in the world, to remain humans. To be leaders of their lives and so on, if you get my point. In other words, make all sheep the shepherds. Kill the - instinct of the mass in people.

In this case, I cannot see how it can be done with positive programming and everything that happens now is justified.

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Hi Christopher,

Thank you for spending the time to share such interesting information and for answering our questions. I look forward to meeting with you some day, whether on this planet or elsewhere. I am grateful.

There is something I feel compelled to share with you.

My entire life, I have always felt "out of place." The best way I can describe it is that I am mentally in another powerful reality yet physically in this reality. It has brought forth much confusion and suffering for me.

The exchange of energy from this other realm has likely played a part in dividing my personality. Many times I've tried to convince myself that I am not important, that I am a useless cowardly crybaby, that I am not worthy of my fated destiny, in an effort to prevent myself from reaching my full potential. But I know now why I did that - it is because I am scared. I am scared of the power inside of me. If I wholeheartedly embrace it, then I will become a completely different person, and will lose this fabricated one that I have lived with for so long. The fabricated one was created to be a placeholder. It exists because I refused to face the reality of my existence. It was too much of a burden for me to bear.

I feel deeply compelled to provide compassion, support and understanding to all people, no matter who it is. It is the code that I live by. Yet, I often times feel as though I cannot associate with other people without first deceiving myself.

Christopher, I do not yet know who I am. And I know that I am the only one that must find the answer to this.

My first and last name, provide the following in the Cabalistic Oracle:

318. Divine messenger

And, my full name results in:

16. Love, happiness, voluptuousness.


My question to you is: How does one separate ego from purpose?

Thank you,
-Abraham

Every Soul knows who it is, it knows its purpose….every one. It is when we take on the flesh that we forget, and it is also our job to remember. Of course we cannot do this on our own without any help, so this is where the bloodlines come in. Information is passed down generation after generation, and it is their duty to do what is in the best interest of the masses. Discovering ourselves is something we must work for, with which various systems were put in place by them. Ancient mystery schools, secret societies, religion, the media, all of them tools to be used. We must work through the lies to discover ourselves, and it may even take lifetimes, but we must do it. This is our duty. Suffering exists for a reason: It shows us who we are not, and it brings us closer to who we are. Happiness and Peace exist for a reason: They are examples of our natural state, and show us who we really are. The people right now are blind, and suffering is being used to show them who they are not. Suffering will always exist in this dimension, because it must. It is a part of it. But rather than demonize it, let it mold you into a better person. (i'm not saying we should not punish people who hurt others or commit crimes. i'm speaking in a different context). WW3 is downright vile and disgusting, but it will turn humanity around, and the bloodlines are sacrificing their own karma and their next lives for it. Because it is their duty to do what is in the best interest of humanity, even if it hurts them. You may look at the manipulation being done and the programming being done, and it is perfectly understandable if you automatically judge the bloodlines for it. But we must remember that these things are part of this dimension and are required in order for us to ascend, and we must remember the bad karma that the Souls of the bloodlines have been willing to take on for humanity.

But of course I do not justify everything that they do. For instance, Hidden Hand openly admitting that she was trained (tortured) as a child to the point of her mind fracturing and splitting into alters, and she is still heavily programmed and under control. Evidence is her belief that she is Lucifer. I don't know why certain groups do this, and it is terrible and should not be done. I don't even know why this type of behavior was ever allowed in the first place. That's one of my main questions I have yet to ask about this: Why? I understand the wars and the programming of the people through tv, food, religions…. but the torture of a child to dissociation….I cannot fathom. Christopher can you say why this type of abuse occurs? If you can't say why, I understand. It just makes me so sad and I don't understand why this evil would ever happen....


Christopher said that there will one day be a Golden Age when the ruling bloodlines are no longer required. When it will be I have no idea o.o And remember ultimately we are leaders of our own lives in a way

--Anyway these are just more of my thoughts written down. I'm constantly learning and I don't claim to know everything even though I may come off that way sometimes...hopefully I don't.

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1. No, it must not. Because people have a free will to choose for it to be or not to be.
2. As I said - no, it is not required, because science have conducted experiments, which show the opposite. History shows the opposite. Not the one, that is told to sheeple, but the other one that waas passed from elders.