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Our Spiritual Declaration: Message to Atheists

When science explains a phenomena some are quick to claim a religious belief has been disproven. Realize if humans can explain HOW an unusual event happened its relation with God isn't negated. The explaination merely shows us how God made such a thing occur.

The most debated topic is Creationism. Of course the Earth is older than 6,000 years or even a million years. Observe how for the Hindu creator, Brahma, one day and night equals 8.6 billion years. And we understand the faster an object travels the slower time progresses for said object when compared to stationary objects. So you see how time for a being with knowledge constantly spaning the universe could pass at a different rate.

Read in Genesis that on the first day God allowed light to the Earth's surface, which occured approximately 4.5 billion years ago. Genesis mentions the Earth was formless, as Earth's core was degassing and ever-changing. On the second day, God separated the water from the atmosphere, occurring around 4 billion years ago. On the third day, dry land appeared, then plants, around 530 million years ago. On the fourth day, the stars, sun, moon, and other celestial objects could be seen - a clear sky more familiar to us. This was essential for seasons, calendars, and fixed objects in space (heavens). The presence of oxygen was needed for human life to develop. Shifting of the continents would play an important role when considering constellations for navigation, and this took place around 200 million years ago. On the fifth day, the living creatures, the ancestors to current life, were created in the sea and land. Genesis mentions the creation of birds as well. This occured 65 million years ago. Finally, on the sixth day, man was created as Adam – which has a two-fold meaning. 200,000 years ago modern humans began to develop (see Chapter 3).

Many believe Eden means 'walled garden', and some interpret this as Eden being located in a volcano. However, this was a subtle way of telling us about cavemen. Ignorance is bliss, and as long as humans remained in caves and nomadic we were doomed to live in this blissful ignorance (paradise). The "walled garden" relates to caves of cavemen who ate the apple and sustained themselves. Eating the apple is symbolic of humans learning how to live off the land, therefore being able to settle in one area. Now humans had time to ponder philosophy and eventually develop a civilization. The serpent being made to crawl on the ground and be crushed by humans is symbolic of dinosaurs evolving into the creatures of today (they lost size and mobility). Humans realized animals could live off the land so why not humans themselves? This is how the serpent told Eve to eat the apple.

The reason God (or knowledgeable huamns) related the history of creation and evolution to man in the manner He did in Genesis is because when communicating you must consider the audience. God was relating Genesis to a very simple people. To tell the outright truth would have confused humans entirely, and they wouldn't believe it. Now humans yearn for the truth. Too much fighting and suffering has taken place over the book of Genesis, fighting which was never meant to be.

Remember, science is only the beginning, and faith is the end. The two complement each other, connect together, and find complete understanding in the middle. You don't need to believe in a manifested, physical God. Just believe in an underlying logic and pattern in the universe. At least then you will be on the beginning to the path of humanity. To believe humans are the most advanced beings in existence is arrogant. Many atheists suffer from the same bad trappings as the religious extremists do – they focus too much on the messenger and not enough on the message. To do so destroys the point of religion and spirituality – to offer guidance in life – not to prove or disprove the existence of God.

If there were no God, as God being defined as the underlying workings of all existence, then we would cease to exist. So no matter how limited and basic and how barely our existence came to be – whether the universe is completely perfect or barely organized – there is an underlying logic and pattern to it. The notion that this underlying logic is merely subjective and all exists in the minds of man alone . . . is the apex of human arrogance.

To ask if this God deserves worship, first deserves the question of how does one define worship. The best form of worship is to emulate the object of worship. So God being that which brings order to chaos, that would be the best way to worship God, to bring order to chaos, which should always be the goal of religion.

If God is the underlying workings of the universe and man can understand those workings and even manipulate them, then isn't man superior to God is some aspect? This idea also shows great arrogance. Remember that science and knowledge are only beginnings and always leave more questions than answers. When we become prideful and content with our knowledge we fall behind. The clock of knowledge only started several thousand years ago and has only ticked a few times when it's destined to tick thousands of times. Remember one of the most important lessons of Socrates, "I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing."
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So you're an Elitist. Are you married?
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I really don't care about your Elitist games. I'm just wondering if you're married..
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I'm single n always will be.

So you're an Elitist. Are you married?
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Why is that? Are you gay?
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1111 when it's all said and done do you think you will be able to come to the realization that you are brainwashed? There are a few handful that have been capable of steering clear of the bs this world supports. Question is.... Do you wish to live a lie or a genuine life...
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T' is late her. I am tired and my phone is about to die. I leave you with that question. Take care c
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"If there were no God, as God being defined as the underlying workings of all existence, then we would cease to exist. So no matter how limited and basic and how barely our existence came to be – whether the universe is completely perfect or barely organized – there is an underlying logic and pattern to it. The notion that this underlying logic is merely subjective and all exists in the minds of man alone . . . is the apex of human arrogance."

Darkness, while I applaud this statement, Sartre certainly wouldn't, so why do you rank him among your "elevated beings" list?
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You see he is right most people are slaves to the external stimuli to bill payments mortgages wars etc etc. however. We technically can break FREE from this world system that isn't new st all. Been around thousands of years. Give everything you own to the poor and follow God through prayer. The illusion is this world you see the truth is God that we don't see.
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These elitist don't realize the true elitists are out there with the truth the formula and the backing from Creator.
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Sartre made ppl think. Even if I don't 100% agree w/ what he said, Sartre is an "elevated being" for making ppl pause and deeply think.

"If there were no God, as God being defined as the underlying workings of all existence, then we would cease to exist. So no matter how limited and basic and how barely our existence came to be – whether the universe is completely perfect or barely organized – there is an underlying logic and pattern to it. The notion that this underlying logic is merely subjective and all exists in the minds of man alone . . . is the apex of human arrogance."

Darkness, while I applaud this statement, Sartre certainly wouldn't, so why do you rank him among your "elevated beings" list?
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Major Spiritual Issues (4000BC-1750BC)

Chapter 8: Major Spiritual Issues (4000BC-1750BC)

Ancient Chinese Beliefs

1. Before the time of Abraham, God (Sabaoth) intervened in Asia. The Divine Light was found in Fu Xi who taught the Chinese people the ways of writing, fishing, cooking, and other peaceful means of existence.

2. Nüwa was the wife of Fu Xi. This couple is comparable to an Adam and Eve for Eastern Asia. Some sculptures show them as being joined together much the same way Adam and Eve were of one spirit.

3. Fu Xi and Nüwa were free of Nephilim influence. They cultivated civilization in this area of the world in the manner Adam and Eve cultivated civilization in the Middle East.

4. Shennong also released his inner Divine Light and educated the Chinese on agriculture, specializing in the medicinal value of herbs.

Meat Consumption
5. Chinese were taught agriculture, and Hindus turned away from eating meat because God had foreknowledge of the upcoming events on Earth. Land must be cleared for animals to graze upon, and the Chinese and Indians were to populate abundantly so God directed these cultures to prefer vegetables over meat.

6. The modern average American consumes over 200 pounds of meat per year. If the Chinese and Indians had developed a taste for meat comparable to Americans, then we would have over two billion people consuming meat on par with Americans. The struggle for grazing land would have lead to war after war in Asia. For this reason God swayed Asians from meat.

7. In present times a strain has been placed upon the Earth due to our overpopulating and habit of eating meat. Our duty as civil beings is to consume as little meat as possible; because meat comes from animals which graze on cleared land, and from this clearing our planet cannot withstand.

The Code of Hammurabi
8. In Babylonia the Code of Hammurabi was set up to give structure to a savage society.

9. The death penalty was used as punishment for many infringements upon the law. If you accused someone of a crime which could result in death yet you couldn't prove the accusation, then you would be put to death. Stealing from the temple resulted in death, stealing a slave resulted in death, robbery was meet with death.

10. The heart of humanity was still hard at this point in time and society fragile, but since Hammurabi the heart of humanity has grown softer. Modern society is mature enough to abolish the death penalty. For a government to form a collective will and decide the death of another being is a blatant abuse of free will, which is the most unpardonable sin of man.

Blood
11. Blood is the link between families. The family is the only natural institution, and blood has come to play an important role in our society.

12. God instructed Noah not to consume blood. In Judaism, Islam, Christianity, and many other religions consuming blood is a taboo. Drinking blood produces the byproduct of ammonia which affects the liver. Because of this God instructed us to not drink blood.

13. During the Last Supper, Jesus told his disciples to drink wine, "For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for the remission of sins." This is recreated in Catholic rituals, but the symbolism behind it has become diminished. Jesus said the bread was his flesh and the wine was his blood the meaning here is that just as bread and wine sustains us, so did the teachings (the new testament) of Jesus. Without the teachings of Jesus, Western civilization would have fallen into chaos, much the way Arab civilization would have fallen into chaos without Mohammed

14. To think that wine becomes the literal blood of Jesus is a bizarre idea. The blood of Jesus is a symbol for his teachings. Remember that the true God (Sabaoth) is the sustainer and provider.

15. Some Christians refuse blood transfusions and refuse to give blood. Leviticus 3:17 states to not eat blood and some take this passage as meaning no blood of another in the body at all. Leviticus 17:11 tells us the life of the flesh is in the blood. Bearing that in mind, and applying the Golden Rule, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" one may see that the gift of life is one of the most valuable gifts of all to give and to receive.

16. Before you experience death, if it's an untimely death, of how much your body tries to keep the spirit contained – there is no more powerful feeling. Give your blood as often as possible. Next to knowledge and good memories blood is the most lasting gift you give to others.

Light
17. Light, in many religious texts, is a symbol for showing a correct path. Light is mentioned by Jesus in Matthew 5:15-16 "Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in Heaven." This means if you know the path to God, then you should serve as an example to others. You don't turn on a lamp and place it under the bed, likewise when you have knowledge you should shine it upon everyone. He who denies you knowledge envisions himself as your master. When you have wealth spread it around.

18. Mohammed gave a great parable relating to light, as in a lightning storm. In the Quran 2:19-20, "Of darkness, and thunder and lightning: They press their fingers in their ears to keep the stunning thunderclap, the while they are in terror of death. But Allah is ever round the rejecters of Faith! The lightning all but snatches away their sight; every time the light helps them, they walk therein, and when the darkness grows on them, they stand still, and if Allah willed, He could take away their faculty of hearing and seeing; for Allah hath power over all things!" This parable was directed to the unwise. They go through life with their fingers in their ears (ignoring faith and knowledge); their way in life is lit only briefly by lightning which blinds them (when the unwise have faith or knowledge cast upon them, they turn away), and they stand still again.

19. Buddha gave us a beautiful parable relating to light. To paraphrase it: Thousands of candles can be lighted from a single candle, and the life of the candle will not be shortened. Thus is the nature of wisdom, faith, knowledge, inspiration, and all good things. Producing good in the world will offer no guarantee of bettering or worsening your own life, but it will make the world you live in brighter.

20. Light is good, but the direction in which it points makes the difference. Just as Lucifer means "Light Bearer" he had the best capacity for wisdom and knowledge (the Divine Light), yet used the Light against its own Creators, as he rebelled against all.

Darkness
21. Darkness is the absence of light. This is important because without darkness how would one define light? Without ignorance how would one define knowledge? Without evil how would one know good?

22. Darkness is essential in life because it illuminates nothing and leaves us alone with our thoughts. In time of crisis, darkness pervades and the unknown comes about so you have no more distractions, and the only light you have is your inner light, which you cannot see, yet it still leads your path.

23. All great discoveries begin in darkness. It is something to be accepted and not feared because where there is darkness there is a need for light. And the longer one lingers in darkness the brighter the light will be.

Original Sin
24. The original sin of man, according to some, was eating the apple from the Tree of Knowledge. This is not a sin at all! The knowledge of right and wrong gave man free will, creativity, and the ability to perceive what should exist yet does not exist.

25. This is consistent with the ways of Pistis/Sophia (Faith/Wisdom) and with Sabaoth (the true God). The god of creation, Yaldabaoth, trapped the Divine Light within our bodies, as to make it easier for us to worship its creations (the material world) rather than superior creations, which are knowledge and wisdom.26. Eating the apple from the Tree of Knowledge was the beginning of the end for our bodies; because eventually we will shed them.

Women's Rights
27. Eve (women) were brought upon the Earth to correct the errors of men. (see Chapter 3:11)

28. The Quran reads, "And their Lord hath accepted of them, and answered them, '. . . Never will I suffer to be lost the work of any of you, be (they) male or female: Ye are from one another. . .'" –Quran 3:195 This explains how men and women hold equal rank in the eyes of God.

29. "Simon Peter says to them: 'Let Mary go out from our midst, for women are not worthy of life!' Jesus says, 'See, I will draw her so as to make her male so that she also may become a living spirit like you males. For every woman who has become male will enter the Kingdom of heaven.'" –Gospel of Thomas 114 This verse may seem strange, but Jesus was merely referring to making Mary like a man in that she develop what Simon Peter and many people today think of as masculine qualities such as ambition and independence.

Knowledge
30. Knowledge is the first step on the Path of Humanity. In Buddhism correct knowledge is the first trait one must attain for enlightenment. However, with knowledge comes suffering – ". . . and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow." –Ecclesiastes 1:18 With knowledge comes the responsibility of using it properly.

31. The proper application of knowledge leads to wealth, and wealth is to be overcome as quickly as possible.

32. "Nay, here are signs self-evident in the hearts of those endowed with knowledge: and none but the unjust reject our signs." –Quran 29:49 Knowledge is the beginning, and those who are unjust reject knowledge.

The Divine Family
33. The family lineage from Adam to Jesus were given special preference by God; because these people happened to fall in an important place at an influential time, as they were most needed in the areas and times from which they came. Where Asia, Africa, and Europe meet together we call the Middle East, which has had great influence over Western and Arab cultures constituting half the world's population. The Indian, Chinese, Native American, African, and all cultures had their own illuminated souls.

34. The Divine intervenes when humanity is unable or unwilling to follow a correct path. During the worst moments in history, God will provide a teacher.

Murder
35. "Thou shall not kill" is made clear in the Old Testament, yet confused by the untrue god, Yaldabaoth, in which mob mentality – the will of the people – is able to kill another human. To kill another human is to impose your will upon another for eternity. This is the infinitely dark sin. The tendency to believe that if a group of people decide a fellow human should die, that this somehow divides up the consequences, is an illusion. As this is an infinitely evil sin, the infinite cannot be divided up, no matter the amount of people in favor of a death.

36. Jesus said, "And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell." This is to warn us against what can destroy our soul – an incorrect lifestyle – which is to be more feared than murder.

37. Jesus explains in Matthew 5:21-26 that murder begins in the heart. So if you are in disagreement with someone, then it should be resolved as quickly as possible. Murder of passion and impulse begins in the heart, as Jesus said. When one contains that feeling of hate in the heart it lurks about and spreads. It will spread to the mind where, if it finds a mind lacking understanding, it will wrap the mind around the murderous passion. A mind with murder at the core is the most dreaded thing and is something which can kill the spirit as well as the body.

38. On the Path of Humanity (Chapter 2:6), murder tangled with knowledge and wisdom leads to premeditated murders. This is a vicious thing which kills without end as found in Henry Lee Lucas & Otis Toole, Pedro Alonso Lopez, Gilles de Rais, Raman Raghav, Yang Zhiya, Moses Sithole, Ivan Robert Marko Milat, and so many other killers throughout history.

39. Murder tangled with wealth leads to killing to sustain wealth and wealth to sustain killing and was the start of events such as World War II for German prosperity, the genocide of the Native Americans for European prosperity, the Mongolian Expansion for Mongolian prosperity, and the violent wars and imperialism in Africa for European prosperity.

40. Jealousy mixed with murder leads to killing another because of their own prosperity and lead to events such as the 9/11 attacks upon America, The Yellow Turban Rebellion, and the murders by Elizabeth Bathory.

41. Kingship tangled with murder leads to evil leaders such as Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Mao Tse-Tung, Pol Pot, and Idi Amin.

42. Deities mixed with murder leads to killing in the name of religion such as the Christian wars against threats (the Crusades), the continual warring between Jews and Muslims, and the wars between Catholics and Protestants.

43. Lordship tangled with murder leads to brutal societies such as the culture of prisons, the culture of criminals, and the culture of prehistoric man.

44. Isn't murder acceptable if it will put an end to one of these endless cycles? No! All other options must be exhausted until the issue is resolved – even until the natural end of one's life. Killing another is a permanent solution to a temporary problem, and this blatant abuse of free will results in an endless cycle. Murder gives way to more murder just like an eye for an eye results in a blind world.

Does God Kill?
45. The untrue god, the creator of the earth, Yaldabaoth, kills without abandon. Yaldabaoth killed in Sodom and Gomorrah and many other times throughout history.

46. The true God, the way to Faith and Wisdom, Sabaoth, never kills or instructs one to kill. Observe how He divided the language of the Tower of Babel builders rather than kill them to stop their work.

Language
47. Next to the sins of humanity, language is the strongest barrier for humans to overcome.

Does God Talk To You?
48. Many believe God has spoken to them, and this has always lead humans to the best and worst of actions.

49. The true God instructs people to advance on the Path of Humanity – to seek and spread knowledge and wisdom, to use wealth constructively, to relieve suffering of those you hold power over, to turn jealousy into self-improvement, to speak out against the abuse of power, to exemplify the proper lifestyle, and to better society.

50. The untrue god instructs people to turn away from knowledge and wisdom, to turn religion and science against one another, to cling to material possessions, to abuse those you hold power over, to use religion and faith as a means of war, and to "dumb down" society.

51. Aside from the content of the message, it is impossible to distinguish between the true and untrue god, which is why it's important to have proper knowledge. The best question we can apply to a message from above is, "Does what is asked of me abuse my free will or curb the ability of others to exercise their free will?" The answer will tell you if God really is speaking to you.

Jealousy
52. Though jealousy is a natural step on the Path of Humanity, it should only be used as a tool for self-betterment. Everyone is subject to envy at some time in life, but we should channel the sin of envy into an instrument which not only helps us but helps others.

53. The Bible is full of warnings against envy and jealousy. "Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another." –Galatians 5:26 "Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways." –Proverbs 3:31 We must draw a distinction between envying things to avoid (vain glory and the ways of the oppressor) and using envy as energy in a productive manner.

54. Envy is unavoidable. If envy is to be embraced at all, then it should only be the seed which grows into healthy competition that benefits you and others, such as in athletics; benefits neighborhoods by comparing prosperity so the community strives for betterment; benefits knowledge in attempting to outwit one another. Envy is evil when it is used as an end unto itself – envy for the sake of envy leads to downfall. The first murder took place because Cain was jealous of Abel, but instead of bettering himself, Cain decided to murder his brother.

55. Envy comes after wealth on the Path of Humanity; because wealth leads to envy, but envy should never lead to more wealth. To do this is a regression and if continued long enough causes nothing but misery.

Wrath
56. The most insightful thought on wrath came from Buddha, "Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned." This tells us of the futility of wrath.

57. "A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger." –Proverbs 15:1 explains that anger will always lead to more anger. Wrath meet with wrath leads nowhere. ". . .let not the sun go down upon your wrath." –Ephesians 4:26 is a warning to end anger quickly and not allow it to stew. Anger starts in the heart and if allowed to thrive will entrap the mind, and of an angry mind there is no easy escape. The most capable mind of Lucifer's was not able to escape its own wrath.

58. "Make no friendship with an angry man; and with a furious man thou shalt not go: Lest thou learn his ways, and get a snare to thy soul." –Proverbs 22:24-25 Avoid angry men as wrath easily spreads from one to many just as the anger of Adolf Hitler spread to millions, anger so powerful that it outlasted his empire and his life.

War
59. "Rebuke the company of spearmen, the multitude of the bulls, with the calves of the people, till every one submit himself with pieces of silver: scatter thou the people that delight in war." –Psalms 68:30, an advisement to warmongers.

60. War leads to more war plus resentment. The best deterrent for war is peaceful means. Observe how Socrates and Jesus didn't violently oppose their persecutors. Jesus and Socrates accepted their deadly fates, yet their ideas lived on far past the ideas of their oppressors.

The Body
61. "Jesus said, 'If the flesh came into being because of spirit, that is a marvel, but if spirit came into being because of the body, that is a marvel of marvels. Yet I marvel at how this great wealth has come to dwell in this poverty.'" –Gospel of Thomas 29 The physical body sprang forth from the spirit, not the spirit from the body.

62. "Jesus said, 'How miserable is the body that depends on a body, and how miserable is the soul that depends on these two.'" –Gospel of Thomas 87 The body must not rely upon itself, nor the body of another. Your soul should never depend upon your body.

63. Yaldabaoth encased the spirit of humanity in our bodies. Nearly all suffering of humanity is a result from the body and its bad trappings. The end of our bodies, the moment in evolution when we shed our bodies and only the spirit remains, will be the beginning of the most glorious chapter in humanity.

Sacrifice
64. Sacrificial rituals waste material resources and only serve Yaldabaoth, the untrue god, as this deity craves worship and sacrifice. By needlessly sacrificing a material object to appease what you believe is God, you gain nothing. Coupled with the fact this is wasteful, pleases the untrue god, as its nature is evil.

65. Sacrificing to charity and those in need is the true sacrifice for God. This serves a purpose, and saves resources from needless destruction.

66. Ask yourself if you honestly believe God's nature is so prideful and human-like that He needs or wants anything of this Earth? Does your spirit believe sacrificial rituals benefit you or anyone else? Does your soul really feel the best way to show worship to God is with sacrificing an object, rather than giving the object to those in need? The best way to worship to God is by mimicing His nature, which is accomplished by giving to those in need.

Alcohol
67. "Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts. Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more." –Proverbs 31:6-7 Yes, alcohol does have its benefits in that you temporarily forget your misery, and it helps you open up to others. "In vino, verdi" is a Latin phrase meaning "in wine, truth". Remember a drunk man's words are a sober man's thoughts. In this way alcohol brings out the inner nature of a person.

68. Beware of those who drink alone. Drinking alone is a sign you are too dependent on alcohol, and what you really need is the company of others or you need to solve your own spiritual problems.

69. Drinking to express yourself and to forget your problems is a good thing, but don't let the drinking itself become a problem; because then what have you to turn to? With that question in mind, remember to only drink in moderation. "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." –Proverbs 20:1

Incest
70. All major religions condemn incest. From a scientific view, incest increases the likelihood the offspring will have defects, and for this reason incest is not to be practiced. A difference of at least five generations is essential to prevent genetic degradation.

71. Even if an incestuous relationship doesn't result in a birth, its practice confuses the love you have for a relative with the love you have for a relationship.

Polygamy
72. Polygamy was practiced in Biblical times, and the Quran reads a man may take up to four wives if he can financially support them. During times the Bible and Quran were written, an imbalance of men to women existed. This was usually because men died before women either in war or working themselves to death. If a society had two women for every man, then polygamy would be a way of ensuring everyone found a mate.

73. In modern times the ratio of men to women is nearly equal; therefore polygamy should cease. If a man takes four wives, then three men go without a wife, and this leads to resentment and depression.

Phoenicians
74. When the angels of Lucifer came to Mount Hermon and took the daughters of men as their mates, the fathers of these women were compensated with advanced knowledge. Eventually, the people known as the Phoenicians inherited this knowledge and spread it throughout the Mediterranean area.

Druids
75. This advanced, and sometimes secret knowledge, originating thousands of years ago, was brought by the Phoenicians to places such as northern Africa and southern Europe. After a few centuries, it was introduced to France and England. When this knowledge found its way to England certain Celts specialized in it, and they would be known as Druids.

76. It took years of learning until one was considered a Druid. Celts were careful never to make a written record of their knowledge, rather they passed it down by oral teachings. Geometry, alchemy, and astrology were of particular interest to the Druids. They possessed understanding of the patterns in society such as the rise and fall of empires and the tell-tell signs which accompanied these events.

Idol Worship
77. ". . . abstain from pollutions of idols. . ." –Acts 15:20". . . an idol is nothing in the world." – 1 Corinthians 8:4"Little children, keep yourselves from idols. . ." -1 John 5:21". . . shun the abomination of idols." –Quran 22:30

78. Idols distract from the true God and focus attention on the material world. Idols are an attempt to recreate or capture the Divine Light within a material object, which is impossible. People simply stare and gaze at idols and forget the meaning behind them, only to be lost in the splendor and awe of the architecture. We often attempt to make the immaterial into material due to the difficulty in grasping the nature of God.

Separation of Church and State
79. Jesus stressed the importance of separating church and state. The opponents of Jesus confronted him for not paying taxes. In Matthew 22:17-22 one reads, "Tell us then, what is your opinion? Is it right to pay taxes to Caesar or not? But Jesus, knowing their evil intent, said, 'You hypocrites, why are you trying to trap me? Show me the coin used for paying the tax.' They brought him a denarius, and he asked them, 'Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?' 'Caesar's,' they replied. Then he said to them, 'Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's.' When they heard this, they were amazed. So they left him and went away."

80. In this Jesus explains the government holds control over your material possessions and anything else created by the decree of government; however what God creates belongs to God, such as your spirit. Here you can see the distinction between government and religion. Too often people infused religion into government, and this resulted in the worst chapters in human history. During Biblical times religion ruled government, which led to horrible persecution.

81. Never should the interpretations of religion have total power over a government. Never should a government have total power over any religion. For this reason 'authority over others' and 'spirituality' are two different steps on the Path of Humanity.
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Next is spirit. But before that takes place. There will be a cleansing.
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Before all of that you posted we were all one people nation. Then we were separated.
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Major Religious Issues 4000BC-1600BC

Chapter 9: Early Religious Issues 12000BC-2200BC

Ancient Egyptian Beliefs

1. Osiris and Isis are among the Ranks of the Righteous, as the couples Adam/Eve and Fu Xi/Nüwa were. Osiris and Isis were a couple similar to Adam and Eve with a taste to spread knowledge throughout Egypt.

2. Osiris and Isis convinced the ancient Egyptians to reject cannibalism. Osiris taught the men how to cultivate land for farming, how to make bread and wine, and the joys of music. Isis taught the Egyptians in the ways of medicine, how to make clothing, and how to grind grain.

3. They had a son named Horus.

4. Set, the brother of Osiris, was filled with envy toward his sibling. Set locked Osiris into a coffin which floated down the Nile until resting under a tree. Isis resurrected Osiris, and later they descended into the Underworld to rule over the dead.

5. Horus finally overcame Seth to be the pharaoh of Egypt.

Agriculture
6. Agriculture was the most important invention to improve the quality of life for humans. It allowed humans to cease nomadic ways and settle down. Many ancient religions sprang up with beliefs relating to agriculture at the core.

Ceremonial Burial
7. One of the earliest evidences of spirituality curiosity in humans was burying the dead. Evidence of this custom dates back over 100,000 years. Even then the dead was buried with the owner's material possessions.

8. From a religious view, burial shows respect for a person's spirit and legacy. From a scientific view, burial is important for sanitary reasons. If one dies from varying diseases the result could be spreading the same disease to the living unless the person is buried. Burial sites must be chosen carefully, as a corpse can contaminate underground water used for drinking.

The Sphinx
9. Around 2500 BC Khafre ruled Egypt, of whom the Great Sphinx was a tribute. Khafra's name denotes he appeared like Ra, the Sun God.

Paganism
10. Animal worship, which predates all modern major religions, wasn't a surprising event, as animals played one of the most important roles in society. Nomadic hunters relied on animals as a source of food, and farmers relied on animals to help tame the land.

11. Some women noticed their menstrual cycle followed closely to the lunar cycle, leading to worship of the Moon.

12. Because the sun was the chief provider of life, it was worshiped. Many were fascinated by the force which causes plants to grow, and this force (being thought of as a form of fertility) was also worshiped.

Ancient America
13. Around 2200 BC in the South American region, the Norte Chico people flourished. Little is known of their religious beliefs, but they were a peaceful civilization, as archeological evidence of warfare hasn't been found.

Urukagina the Illuminated
14. Urukagina ruled in Mesopotamia around 2370 BC.

15. Urukagina was enlightened during a difficult time. He sought to stop abuses of power, and created a welfare system exempting widows and orphans from taxes.16. He expanded freedom throughout his kingdom and should serve as an inspiration for everyone, especially those who hold authority under unfavorable circumstances.
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I have a couple questions.... Are you and yours looking for an incarnation of Innana or Isis ?
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If you are then I have some more questions to ask...
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No, and who do you mean by "yours"? I don't have a mate. I have to stay single.

I have a couple questions.... Are you and yours looking for an incarnation of Innana or Isis ?
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I don't mean mate. Personally I think it's better and easier to stay single. I meant family ancestry and order.
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What was the meaning of the Sphinx?
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Help,me out!My soul is killing me!
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The meaning of it was just in honor of a pharaoh. It has astronomical significance most egyptologists mention. Is this what you mean?

What was the meaning of the Sphinx?
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You'll have to be more specific on how your soul is killing you.

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The meaning of it was just in honor of a pharaoh. It has astronomical significance most egyptologists mention. Is this what you mean?

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Sun worship? Wasn't it used by egyptian mystery schools as some say?
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I remember Putin was in your list of dictators to get rid of, is he still in the list? Do you think it will be possible for Russia to throw him and his gang out of the throne in coming 15-20 years and when it's possible by what means? From what I see his regime is only getting more and more comfortable at its power every year, with international elites mostly supporting it and Russians becoming more and more apathetic.
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Creation Beliefs

Chapter 10: Creation Beliefs

Australian Aborigines

1. In the beginning Karora slept in the ground, and darkness veiled the world. Later the sun flooded the world with light. Karora came out of the ground and ate.

2. One night a piece of wood took human form and grew into a young man. This was Karora's first son. When morning dawned the youth sprang to life. He and his father ate a meal that day and rested come night.

3. That night two more sons were formed and came to life the next morning. Every night more and more sons sprang forth. Eventually they ran out of food.

4. Finally, a flood of honey swept the sons underground.

5. Notice the similarities. Karora came out of the ground, and Adam was created out of the Earth. This story also has a flood which swept away the descendents as did the flood of Noah.

Western Polynesians
6. In the beginning Ta-aroa was encased in a shell and later burst forth. Ta-aroa made the god Tu and together they created man, Ti-i, out of the earth. Then woman was created (Hina), and she was a half-goddess.

7. Ti-i was evil and spread calamity throughout the world. Ta-aroa and Tu cursed the stars, moon, earth, and humans because of the evil man had spread.

8. Hina redeemed the stars so they twinkle rather than completely fade, she saved the moon so it fades away only to return again, she saved the earth so winter destroys life only to regrow in spring, and she saved humanity so we die yet new life comes from women.

9. In this story we see comparable elements, such as how Yaldabaoth cursed the earth and humanity, yet woman (Eve) was sent to correct the errors of man (Adam).

Eastern Polynesians
10. In the beginning only the ocean existed. God (Lowa) created the Marshall Islands. Four men were sent down and traveled different directions. The eastern man created light and was the sun. The man in the west created life. The man in the south created wind. The man in the north created death.

Melanesians
11. In the beginning light shined continually. Beneath the light a stone called Quatgoro (mother) split into twelve sons. The first born, Quat, was a wise man and the second born, Tangaro, was a fool.

12. Quat carved six humans from a tree and brought them to life using music.

13. Tangaro wanted to create humans as his brother had done, but he buried them. Later he dug them up, but the humans had rotted. This was the start of death.

14. Quat's brothers complained of the constant light, and Quat sailed away to find Oong (night). Upon finding Oong Quat was taught how to sleep. He sailed back and taught his brothers of the night and how to sleep.

15. Here one may see similarities between Quat and Tangaro and Sabaoth and Yaldabaoth.


Native Americans of California
16. In the beginning darkness and water existed. Turtle and Pehe-ip floated on a raft and from the sky descended Earth Starter.

17. Turtle plunged to the ocean's bottom and brought up dirt which Earth Stater used to make dry land.

18. Earth Starter told his sister, the Sun, to rise.

19. Earth Starter created the first deer out of mud and made all the animals.

20. Earth Starter created the first man, Ku-ksu, and the first woman, Morning-star Woman. He made their hands resemble his, unlike the animal's paws, so humans could climb trees to escape danger.

21. Earth Starter told Ku-ksu when he was old to dive into a lake and become young again.

22. Notice the sequence of events in this creation story mostly parallel the events in Genesis (darkness, water, land, animals, man). Also interesting is the idea of humans diving into a lake (returning to nature) to be made young again. This smacks of reincarnation.

Mayans
23. In the beginning sea and darkness existed. The Maker and Feathered Serpent came together and Heart of Sky was found with his three parts: lightning hurricane, new lightning, and blue-green lightning.

24. These came together and planned existence, with Their thoughts being so clear and words so faithful whatever They said came to be.

25. They created dry land, mountains, valleys, plants, and animals.

26. They attempted to show animals the ways of civilization, but animals lacked the intelligence needed. So They made man but failed the first time. In Their first attempt, man was made from mud but fell apart.

27. On the second attempt, They carved man from wood. This attempt lead to a creature which could walk and talk and procreate, yet it lacked a soul. A flood came swept the carved people away, and today they are known as monkeys.

28. Corn was then used to make the first humans: Jaguar Quiché, Jaguar Night, Ma-hu-cutah, and Wind Jaguar. These men possessed knowledge of everything. God curbed some of their knowledge and abilities, reasoning they were humans and not gods.

29. This story is extraordinary in that it explains evolution as first came the monkeys then humans. Also interesting is the mention of lightning having a place in creating life, which is how science claims it happened. This story actually agrees with scientific reasoning more than any other creation story. The chronology of what was created also follows along that of Genesis. How the Mayans possessed so much foresight, no one knows, but their society was filled with spiritual curiosity.

Icelanders
30. In the beginning the south was full of fire and the north full of ice. In the middle of the two was the Yawning Gap. The combination of fire and ice lead to a thaw in the Gap and from this Imir, a frost giant, emerged.

31. From Imir came other frost giants. A giant cow emerged from the water and Imir lived off the cow's milk, and the cow lived off ice.

32. A man named Buri came out of the ice, and he had a son, Bor. Bor and a frost giant mated and the offspring were Odin, Ve, and Vili. These brothers killed Imir, and from his corpse the Earth was made.

33. From trees the brothers made the ancestors of humans – Ask and Embla.

34. Note in this story the mating of humans with spiritual beings and giants.

West Africans
35. In the beginning God (Wulbari) existed as Heaven and was only a few feet above the Earth. So God was frustrated and raised up but was still too close to humans.

36. God went up higher and made His guard a spider named Ananse. One day Ananse got a corncob from God and traveled to Earth. There he fed the corncob to chickens then complained to the villagers about his lack of corn. The villagers gave Ananse a whole bushel of corn. This deception was just the beginning for Ananse.

37. Ananse became prideful and claimed superiority to God. So God told Ananse to go find 'something' on Earth. Ananse came back with a feather hat, and when he was spotted in Heaven everyone wondered what kind of animal he was. God revealed to the people the 'something' he wanted was the sun, moon, and darkness.

38. Overhearing this without anyone knowing, Ananse brought back what God wanted and in doing so outwitted his creator.

39. This story contains elements similar to the struggle between God and Lucifer.

Guineans
40. In the beginning Sa (Death) lived with his wife and daughter. Sa formed mud and built his house upon it. The God Alatangana then turned the mud solid.

41. Alatangana secretly married Sa's daughter. They had many children together. Some of the children were black and some were white, and they spoke different languages. Alatangana went to Sa for help understanding the languages, but Sa was angry over the secret marriage.

42. Sa told Alatangana the languages were confused as punishment for the secret marriage and said the children should marry their own color. Death also told Alatangana that every time when he feels like it, a human will be taken because of the secret marriage.

43. This story has a similarity with Genesis in mentioning the dividing of language.

Egyptians
44. In the beginning Ra was the first being. He came forth from Nun, a watery mass.

45. Ra created Shu and Tefnut and sent his only eye to watch over them. In place of his eye, Ra grew a second eye to weep. His sons then brought back his original eye, and Ra put the eye in the center of his head.

46. From Shu and Tefnut, Heaven and Earth (Nut and Geb) were created and seperated.

47. From the tears of Ra, humanity came into being.

Babylonians
48. In the beginning Apsu and Tiamat (the seas) existed. From them came a multitude of deities. Anshar and Kishar were created, from them came Anu, and from Anu came Ea.

49. Apsu plotted to kill all his creations, but Ea killed Apsu before he could accomplish his plan.

50. Ea and his wife brought forth Marduk.

51. Tiamat created many terrible creatures to avenge the death of Apsu, and their ruler was Kingu.

52. Marduk was enabled ruler of the universe so he could defeat these creatures. He cut Tiamat in half and destroyed her evil creations. From one half of Tiamat, Marduk made the Heaven and from the other half the Earth.

53. Marduk then created humanity.

Greeks
54. In the beginning there was chaos, and from chaos came Eros (Love). The Earth and Underworld sprang forth - Gaia (Earth) and Uranus (Heaven) manifested.

55. Gaia and Uranus came together to create the Titans. One of the Titans was Kronos. Uranus hated his children and hid them. Because of this Kronos turned against his father.

56. Some time later Kronos became suspicious of his own children and ate them. Zeus was hidden from his father, Kronos, and later successfully fought against him.

Northeast Indians
57. In the beginning Earth and Sky married, and, between the two, humanity feared Sky and Earth would come together to crush them. So humans beat the Sky which fled and left the Earth behind.

58. Earth gave birth to two daughters from whom a great light came forth. A woman who raised the two daughters died, and the daughters died of grief so the light they illuminated vanished.

59. Humans wondered why the two grieved over the woman and dug up her grave to see if she stole from them. In the grave they found two large shining eyes. The men saw their reflection in the eyes.

60. Using magic the reflections were taken out and became the two daughters. They were locked up to contain their light, but they escaped. Too much light and heat came from them so one of the daughters was murdered.

61. The other sister found out about this and hid under a rock, and the Earth darkened. The men created her another sister, but this one was made smaller so the Earth wouldn't become too bright and hot or too dark and cold.

Chinese
62. In the beginning the universe was shaped like an egg and contained Phan Ku, the creator of everything. The egg exploded, and Phan Ku came forth.

63. Phan Ku separated the sky from Earth. The light sky was yin, and the dark sky was yang. Phan Ku existed between the two.

64. He created everything then passed away. Soil came from his body, rain from his sweat, and thunder from his voice.
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I doubt it because Globalist will have to go through Syria & Iran before ever touching Russia. Mostly Globalists will isolate and conquer smaller nations before going after larger ones. Get rid of all the smaller allies first.

I remember Putin was in your list of dictators to get rid of, is he still in the list? Do you think it will be possible for Russia to throw him and his gang out of the throne in coming 15-20 years and when it's possible by what means? From what I see his regime is only getting more and more comfortable at its power every year, with international elites mostly supporting it and Russians becoming more and more apathetic.
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Christopher, Aside from all the jokes, I want the world to know that you're my hero. I have never been so blessed to meet someone so knowledgable, so helpful, and incredibly beautiful.

Thank you for being here for me, Big Guy, and for being with them. :)

It's all about your mystery! <3 Always, because I could never get your friendly insight, not from anyone. You're one of Kind.

But I especially want to thank you for creating this thread. This is so amazing!

I doubt it because Globalist will have to go through Syria & Iran before ever touching Russia. Mostly Globalists will isolate and conquer smaller nations before going after larger ones. Get rid of all the smaller allies first.

I remember Putin was in your list of dictators to get rid of, is he still in the list? Do you think it will be possible for Russia to throw him and his gang out of the throne in coming 15-20 years and when it's possible by what means? From what I see his regime is only getting more and more comfortable at its power every year, with international elites mostly supporting it and Russians becoming more and more apathetic.
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Are you still trying to bring about babalon workings?
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Colourcone... Are you crazy?


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