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"And they were in all two hundred; who descended in the days of Jared on the summit of Mount Hermon, and they called it Mount Hermon" -1 Enoch

That's when elites started.



12. They never left since Annuakis are Nephilim of the Bible. They breeded into the human population.
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Which races were on Earth a time of arrival Annuakis?
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Aliens. But it was the indigenous population?
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Moses

Chapter 13: Moses

Moses

1. After the death of Joseph, the Israelites who settled in Egypt greatly multiplied. The Pharaoh became suspicious of the foreigners in his land, and over time the Israelites became slaves of the Egyptians. Pharaoh ordered all males born of Israelites be thrown into the river. Moses was born to an Israelite during this time. His mother placed Moses on a cradle in the area Pharaoh's daughter bathed. The daughter took to Moses as her own child, and he was raised in Egyptian luxury.

2. Moses murdered an Egyptian who was torturing an Israelite, and because of this Moses fled to a faraway land.

3. The untrue god, Yaldabaoth, appeared to Moses and instructed him to travel back to Egypt and secure the release of the Israelites. Yaldabaoth did this as an attempt to destroy the Israelites; because the Israelites were to play a great role in the development of religion.

4. Moses and his brother, Aaron, attempted to persuade the Pharaoh into releasing the Israelites, but Pharaoh refused; because Yaldabaoth had ‘hardened Pharaoh’s heart’. Why would Yaldabaoth hardened Pharaoh’s heart? Wouldn’t it simply place the notion into Pharaoh’s mind to release the Israelites? No! Yaldabaoth’s plan was to destroy Egypt with plagues; because Egypt was a thriving society which assured humanity’s continuance. The Israelites were to be led into the desert where they would meet certain death. Yaldabaoth struck Egypt with several disasters: the river was turned into blood, a mass of frogs, lice came upon the people, swarms of flies, the cattle died, boils appeared on the Egyptians and their animals, hail mixed with fire rained down, locusts consumed the livelihood of the Egyptians, and the land was struck with darkness.

5. Yaldabaoth told Moses of its plan to kill the first-born children of every human and animal in Egypt. This is consistent with Yaldabaoth's nature as it despises children; because children represent the continuation of humanity. Yaldabaoth instructed Moses to inform his people to mark their houses with blood so the firstborn plague would pass over the Israelites. This is still celebrated as the holiday of Passover. Why would God need a mark to distinguish between Egyptians and Israelites? Because like it didn't know where Adam was in Eden upon asking, "Where are you?", Yaldabaoth’s nature is limited.

6. The Israelites exited Egypt, but Pharaoh pursued them with intent to kill. Yaldabaoth parted the Red Sea, and the Israelites crossed. The sea closed back, drowning the Egyptians. The Israelites sang praise to Yaldabaoth, shouting, "The Lord is a man of war: the Lord is his name." –Exodus 15:3

7. Yaldabaoth anticipated the Israelites would starve in the wilderness. However, the true God, Sabaoth, provided water to drink and rained down manna (food) for the Israelites to preserve themselves. Sabaoth is a provider and sustainer, He told Moses, "For I am the Lord that healeth thee." –Exodus 15:26

8. Sabaoth would preserve the Israelites, and instructed Moses on Mt. Sinai in laws for the Israelites. Sabaoth (God) gave the Israelites the truth on how they should live. The consequences of breaking the laws were stringent; because the Israelites were in a pioneering society where survival was a struggle everyday.

9. God gave Moses the Ten Commandants and proclaimed to Moses to have no gods before God, to not make idols, to not take God’s name in vain, to preserve the Sabbath day, to honor one's mother and father, to not kill, to not commit adultery, to not steal, to not lie about one's neighbor, and to not covet (desire) anything of one's neighbor. God told Moses, ". . .for I the Lord thy God and a jealous God. . ." –Exodus 20:5 The reason for stating this was in the fact the Israelites tended to stray away from the true God.

10. God instructed Moses on laws concerning the rights of people, slavery, stressed the death penalty, and stressed the notion of an eye for an eye. An eye for an eye was stressed because humanity’s heart was still hard, the spirit young, and the mind weak.

11. God related to Moses laws concerning property, conduct, justice, sabbaticals, feasts, rules of war, the covenant, and offerings. (Exodus 22:16 – 25:9) Slaves were to be set free after six years of service; a murderer is to be murdered; smiters of parents must die; compensate those you disable; kill animals that kill a human; compensate if you damage another's property; pay restitution for theft at several times the value; marry a woman with whom you have sex; kill any witch; kill people guilty of bestiality; don't oppress strangers; don't lie about your neighbor; don't accept bribes; work the farms for six years, and let them rest on the seventh year.

12. God promised the land ,later known as Israel, to Moses and his people. In fact it was Sabaoth who originally made this promise to Abraham.

13. God instructed Moses to accept gold, silver, brass, linens, furs, and other luxuries as sacrifice and to build a tabernacle or sanctuary.

14. God gave instructions for the Ark of the Covenant, so He may appear to Moses through the ark. The table of showbread, the golden candlestick, and a detailed plan of the tabernacle were also given to Moses. God stressed materialism because one of the most important aspects for a culture to survive is a unique sense of identity.

15. God gave commands on the elaborate clothing of the priests and continued to give more commands on material things to give the Israelites a sense of unity in the material world. Some Israelites went too far with this materialism, and the waning of this belief system had already been established. When faith and material objects are entangled so the two are indistinguishable, what remains of faith when the material objects are destroyed?

16. God warned against worshiping other gods saying, ". . .for the Lord, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous God." –Exodus 34:14 This was God’s way of scaring the Israelites who would often be led astray by Yaldabaoth. It was so easy for the Israelites to be led astray. Many during this time did not survive childbirth. Child rearing was the majority of a woman’s life and back-breaking farming the majority of a man’s life. Disease was rampant, earthquakes were frequent, and fires broke out many times.

17. Moses was instructed on what the Israelites may eat. Animals with a parted hoof or cloven-footed and chew the 'cud' may be eaten. Cud is what certain animals produce. When animals like cows eat, they don't thoroughly chew-up food, rather mix it with saliva which passes to the cow's first stomach. The food then passes to the second stomach where it is softened into cud. The food returns to the animal's mouth where it is thoroughly chewed and swallowed for digestion. These animals were allowed to be eaten. Animals which chew cud but do not have a parted hoof are forbidden. Any aquatic life with fins and scales is acceptable. Many birds are forbidden as well as bats. Insects which travel solely on the ground are forbidden, but the locust, beetle, and grasshopper are acceptable to eat. Water containing a dead animal is unacceptable to drink. Eating blood is forbidden. Pigs were forbidden in this desert culture; because pigs don’t sweat and require large amounts of water.

18. Moses was told of laws concerning sanitary issues, atonement, and sacrifices.

19. Moses was instructed in laws concerning sexuality: no incest (cousin couples were allowed), no sex with a woman and her daughter, no sex with a woman on her monthly period, no sex with your neighbor's wife, no homosexuality, no bestiality.

20. Consulting with mediums and wizards was forbidden. Yaldabaoth, Satan, and other spiritual beings can easily lead mediums and wizards astray if they lack wisdom and proper knowledge.

21. Merchants were forbidden from swindling others.

22. Prostituting one's daughter was forbidden.

23. Trimming your beard, piercing, and tattoos were forbidden.

24. Laws for priests were set forth.

25. The year of Jubilee was established. The year of Jubilee occurs every fifty years. During this time all possessions are to be returned to their rightful owner, no interest is to be imposed on loans, and people in forced servitude are to be returned to their family.

26. Moses and the Israelites wandered through the desert forty years. They successfully fought against several groups. Among these groups were the Nephilim. The Nephilim originated on Mt. Hermon, and, as they spread out, some migrated to the land of Bashan (located in modern-day Syria). The king of the Nephilim in this area was named Og. The Israelites killed every man, woman, and child of the giants, but Og was spared. His actual height is not stated, but his bed was over twelve feet long.

27. Every seven years debts were to be forgiven between Israelites. Tithing some of your income was instituted.

28. Laws for unknown murders and marriage were laid down.

29. After forty years the Israelites, lead by Moses, reached their destination to settle what is modern-day Israel. God allowed Moses to look at the promised land but to not enter it; because Moses had sinned against God. A change in leadership was needed as well.

30. Moses died when he was 120.

31. Moses was a political and religious leader. He is a good example to others in how he cared for his people. He is a poor example in holding the life of the Israelites above all others. Moses was misled by the untrue god, Yaldabaoth, but the true God, Sabaoth, saved him and his people. The Israelites were important because there were to be the anchor of the world at the crossroads of Africa, Asia, and Europe. Grudge-holding Yaldabaoth rages at the Jews for its failed attempt to kill them until this very day. Throughout history the Jews were to be persecuted. Unwarranted hatred of the Jews is placed in the minds of many people. Yaldabaoth will continue to persecute the Jews until end times.
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Our Spiritual Declaration: I Ching

Chapter 14: I Ching

General

1. Around this point in religious history (1300 BC), the I Ching was created in China by a man filled with the Divine Light.

2. The I Ching is used to predict an outcome of any occurrence. The I Ching is composed of solid lines and broken lines (the broken line is only broken in two equal parts). The solid line represents 'yang' which is the creative and aggressive. The broken line represents 'yin' which is the receptive process.

Trigrams
3. The trigrams of the I Ching are created by three horizontal broken and/or unbroken lines.

4. Three broken lines represent "earth".

5. One unbroken line on top of two broken lines represents "mountain".

6. One broken line, one unbroken line, and one broken line represents "water".

7. Two unbroken lines and one broken line represents "wind".

8. Two broken lines and one unbroken line represents "thunder".

9. One unbroken line, one broken line, and one unbroken line represents "fire".

10. One broken line and two unbroken lines represent "lake".

11. Three unbroken lines represent "heaven".

Hexagrams
12. A series of six vertical lines gives detail to future outcomes. These are known as the hexagrams.

13. Six unbroken vertical lines represent "force" and "starting an action".

14. Six broken lines represent "field" and "receiving the action".

15. One unbroken line, three broken lines, one unbroken line, and one broken line represents "sprouting".

16. One broken line, one unbroken line, three broken lines, and one unbroken line represents "enveloping" and "detained".

17. Three unbroken lines, one broken line, one unbroken line, and one broken line represents "waiting".

18. One broken line, one unbroken line, one broken line, and three unbroken lines represent "arguing" and "conflict".

19. One broken line, one unbroken line, and four broken lines represent "leading" and "bringing together".

20. Four broken lines, one unbroken line, and one broken line represents "grouping" and "union".

21. Three unbroken lines, one broken line, and two unbroken lines represent "temporary restraint".

22. Two unbroken lines, one broken line, and three unbroken lines represent "treading" and "continuing with alertness".

23. Three unbroken lines and three broken lines represent "pervading".

24. Three broken lines and three unbroken lines represent "obstruction" and "stagnation".

25. One unbroken line, one broken line, and four unbroken lines represent "fellowship" and "partnership".

26. Four unbroken lines, one broken line, and one unbroken line represents "independence" and "freedom".

27. Two broken lines, one unbroken line, and three broken lines represent "humbling" and "refraining".

28. Three broken lines, one unbroken line, and two broken lines represent "the start of something new".

29. One unbroken line, two broken lines, two unbroken lines, and one broken line represents "breakdown" and "dismantling".

30. One broken line, two unbroken lines, two broken lines, and one unbroken line represents "repair" and "revival".

31. Two unbroken lines and four broken lines represent "nearing" and "nearing a goal".

32. Four broken lines and two unbroken lines represent "withholding".

33. One unbroken line, two broken lines, one unbroken line, one broken line, and one unbroken line represents "compensation".

34. One unbroken line, one broken line, one unbroken line, two broken lines, and one unbroken line represents "entrapping", "deception", and "lure".

35. Five broken lines and one unbroken line represents "stripping" and "splitting apart".

36. One unbroken line and five broken lines represent "returning" and "recovery".

37. One unbroken line, two broken lines, and three unbroken lines represent "avoid embroiling".

38. Three unbroken lines, two broken lines, and one unbroken line represents "launching charged effort".

39. One unbroken line, four broken lines, and one unbroken line represents "fulfillment".

40. One broken line, four unbroken lines, and one broken line represent "no fulfillment".

41. One broken line, one unbroken line, two broken lines, one unbroken line, and one broken line represents "gorge" and "darkness".

42. One unbroken line, one broken line, two unbroken lines, one broken line, and one unbroken line represents "radiance" and "brightness".

43. Two broken lines, three unbroken lines, and one broken line represents "conjoining" and "attraction".

44. One broken line, three unbroken lines, and two broken lines represent "perseverance".

45. Two broken lines and four unbroken lines represent "retiring" and "withdrawal".

46. Four unbroken lines and two broken lines represent "great invigorating."

47. Three broken lines, one unbroken line, one broken line, and one unbroken line represents "prospering", "progress", and "expansion".

48. One unbroken line, one broken line, one unbroken line, and three broken lines represent "injury" and "persecution".

49. One unbroken line, one broken line, one unbroken line, one broken line, and two unbroken lines represent "community".

50. Two unbroken lines, one broken line, one unbroken line, one broken line, and one unbroken line represents "polarizing", "opposition", and "division".

51. Two broken lines, one unbroken line, one broken line, one unbroken line, and one broken line represents "limping", "halting", and "hardship".

52. One broken line, one unbroken line, one broken line, one unbroken line, and two broken lines represent "liberation" and "salvation".

53. Two unbroken lines, three broken lines, and one unbroken line represents "decrease".

54. One unbroken line, three broken lines, and two unbroken lines represent "increase".

55. Five unbroken lines and one broken line represents "parting" and "separation".

56. One broken line and five unbroken lines represent "coupling" and "copulation".

57. Three broken lines, two unbroken lines, and one broken line represents "clustering", "association", and "companionship".

58. One broken line, two unbroken lines, and three broken lines represent "alienation" and "rift".

59. One broken line, one unbroken line, one broken line, two unbroken lines, and one broken lien represent "confining" and "restriction".

60. One broken line, two unbroken lines, one broken line, one unbroken line, and one broken line represents "replenishing" and "renewal".

61. One unbroken line, one broken line, three unbroken lines, and one broken line represents "revolution" and "abolishing the old".

62. One broken line, three unbroken lines, one broken line, and one unbroken line represents "establishing the new".

63. One unbroken line, two broken lines, one unbroken line, and two broken lines represent "shake" and "arousal to action".

64. Two broken lines, one unbroken lines, two broken lines, and one unbroken line represents "bound" and "immobility".

65. Two broken lines, one unbroken line, one broken line, and two unbroken lines represent "gradual development".

66. Two unbroken lines, one broken line, one unbroken line, and two broken lines represent "caution".

67. One unbroken line, one broken line, two unbroken lines, and two broken lines represent "goal reached".

68. Two broken lines, two unbroken lines, one broken line, and one unbroken line represents "sojourning" and "travel".

69. One broken line, two unbroken lines, one broken line, and two unbroken lines represent "abandoning" and "yielding".

70. Two unbroken lines, one broken line, two unbroken lines, and one broken line represents "open" and "accessing".

71. One broken line, one unbroken line, two broken lines, and two unbroken lines represent "dispersal".

72. Two unbroken lines, two broken lines, one unbroken line, and one broken line represents "regulation".

73. Two unbroken lines, two broken lines, and two unbroken lines represent "staying focused".

74. Two broken lines, two unbroken lines, and two broken lines represent "transition".

75. One unbroken line, one broken line, one unbroken line, one broken line, one unbroken line, and one broken line represents "completion".

76. One broken line, one unbroken line, one broken line, one unbroken line, one broken line, and one unbroken line represents "incompletion".

Conclusion
77. This makes up the I Ching. Sticks, coins, cards, and many other ways to consult the I Ching have been invented.

78. Predicting using I Ching is only used in serious matters. Asking trivial questions gives one bad karma. The result suggested by the I Ching and its application should be pondered before being put into use.
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I promise we'll get to more intellectual, "heady" subjects soon. Early spirituality (pre 500BCs) tends to be boring.
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Considering I learned Kabbalah at 16 units entirety. The story you face me about Isaac doesn't cut it. Way too advanced for you or your metaphysical spiritual understandings. However, I do need help regarding incarnations and astrology also the fact I could remote view as a child. Not to mention saw the beginning to the end. Also witnessed the unholy union between him and her by the ocean. I need some answers.
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I'm on my iPhone so I apologize for the typos. I'm usually a brilliant writer. A bit of a perfectionist. Maybe that's just a trait most women carry. Anyhow as I have mentioned I'm sure you can help me.
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You'll have to be more specific on how your soul is killing you.

Help,me out!My soul is killing me!
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I'm sorry for this. It was a moment of weakness in my "dark hour". Won't happen again. And I appreciate, that you, Chris, noticed it and reacted.
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Does dolphin accompanied water birth result in genius babies? What about normal water birth?
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Major Biblical Issues For Modern Times (continuted)

Chapter 15: Major Biblical Issues For Modern Times

Lust

1. Lust is a peculiar sin; because it is the only deadly sin involving only the physical body. Pride, covetousness, anger, gluttony, envy, and sloth all involve either the mind or the body and mind. However, lust involves only the body. The saying, "Out of sight, out of mind" is a reason why other sins may be quelled, but lust is a sin which anyone with sight (or any sense for that matter) is continually exposed to and experiences. Lust is the weakest of the seven deadly sins because of its reliance on the body, yet it is the most abundant and chronic sin.

2. Lust is caused by the physical beauty of another. Physical beauty is caused by adherence to temporary trends but more importantly by symmetry of the body. Symmetry of the body is stronger in people who are healthy, especially healthy (mentally and physically) during the growing and developing periods of their bodies. Lust and physical attraction is caused from our brains being hardwired in such a way that we involuntarily seek out others who are healthy and have a history of health, this being a factor in determining who would produce the healthiest offspring, live longer, and have a more productive life to help raise offspring.

3. In using lust and physical attraction as the main factor in choosing a mate, the trap of this sin is exposed. The health of the body is important, but not more important than the health of the mind, spirit, and soul. How often has one placed most stock in a person's physical beauty later to find the mind and spirit to be without beauty, and the result was a horrible relationship? How often have you viewed a beautiful person and formed an image of them in your mind, but as you move closer to the person (by knowing them better) you realize the image of the person was larger than the actual person?

4. During sex a chemical, oxytocin, is released in the brain. Oxytocin causes one person to love and trust another. This chemical process occurs in men and women, but it affects women more potently. It causes women to trust more and become more devoted. It causes men to become more protective. If a person engages in sex with a series of people, without forming a meaningful relationship, this can "burn out" or destroy the chemical process. The brain will not tolerate this amount of rejection and will adapt. Then it becomes very difficult to form and hold a relationship with another. This is a solid reason to reserve sex for those you have come to know and love. Too much impulsive sex with many people can chemically destroy your ability to love another!

5. The energy of lust should be channeled into constructive energy used to pursue the Path of Humanity. Remember this when trying to completely avoid lust: it's is an unavoidable reaction, and attempting to avoid merely places undue importance on it. Less than 1% of your life is spent having and satisfying this urge. Why spend 99% of your time focused on an act you spend 1% actually doing? Refrain wasting too much or too little time on this urge. Moderation.

6. To those who glorify their body and spend hours beautifying themselves so others may lust after them: if you rise in power through lust , then you will fall in power through lust.

7. Know what lust is, and exercise passions of lust in your youthful days. Allow yourself to experience the errors of lust while young. Those who do not will always wonder and yearn for what could have been yet will be unable to live again; because the body ages and beauty of the body fades with age. Experience the errors of lust in youth because, of the young, much is forgiven, but the foolishness of an adult is rarely tolerated. Few things create more distaste and pity toward a human than an adult participating in youthful folly. At some time in your life, you will know an adult who didn't satisfy youthful lust and will behave as a youth. You will then realize there is nothing more contemptible.

8. Lust compounded with more lust leads to sexual deviancy such as child abuse and incest. Lust mixed with pride leads to a lack of sexual modesty and over importance placed on physical appearance. Lust mingled with wrath can lead to unwanted abuse. mixed with covetousness and envy leads to an unending desire to improve one's physical appearance. Lust and sloth gives no positive outlet for useful energy. Lust with gluttony leads to over-sexing one's self.

9. On the Path of Humanity, lust mixed with knowledge and wisdom leads to being a better lover, but when that power is abused through a "love 'em and leave 'em" attitude, it results in breaking many hearts; because many people equate lust with love. Lust mixed with wealth leads to pornography and using sex as a means to generate wealth. Lust mixed with jealousy leads to overemphasis on improving the body rather than the mind, spirit, and soul. Lust mixed with kingship (authority over others) leads to preference of attractive people – advancement based on "looks" rather than merit. This will weaken one’s authority and reputation. Lust mixed with deity (religion) leads to religious figures abusing the trust they hold (the Catholic sex scandal of the late 20th century). Lust mixed with lordship (society) leads to a society with overemphasis on sex. (Sodom and Gomorrah, ancient Greece and Rome, and modern-day United States and Europe) This type of society holds up an unachievable and totally unrealistic of physical appearance and wails, "This is what you must be!" – and for what purpose?

10. To those who hold sex in the highest regards in order to gain power over others: don't be surprised when attempting to express yourself in a way unrelated to sex, and it falls on deaf ears. If you adopt and promote lust like an animal, then among animals you will live and like an animal you will be treated.

Sloth
11. "The slothful man saith, 'There is a lion in the way; a lion is in the streets.' As the door turns upon his hinges, so does the slothful upon his bed." Proverbs 26:13-14 is an illustration of the slothful and warns that merely talking about a problem (in this case the lion), rather than taking action, will result in one's downfall.

12. Sloth compounded with more sloth leads to depression, suicide, or total stagnation in life. Sloth with pride leads to false pride - being prideful for baseless reasons. Sloth and wrath only magnifies wrath, as sloth prevents aggression from being channeled into productive energy. Sloth mixed with envy and covetousness leads to no means of quelling desire. Sloth and gluttony results in excessive sin; because these two sins are complementary.

13. On the Path of Humanity, sloth and knowledge/wisdom leads to unused knowledge. A lazy person fails to share knowledge with others. Sloth with wealth concludes in wealth being used for no constructive purpose. Sloth with envy leads to no self-improvement. Sloth and authority ends in those you hold power over eventually holding power over you; because the productive will take your work and negate your usefulness. Sloth mixed with religion leads to religions which instruct and never inspire, in religious figures who talk at you and not to you. A slothful church's congregation fails to enrich its community and reach out to others. The slothful congregation merely sits in the church and listens to sermon upon sermon. Sloth promoted in a society leads to government enacting no solutions for its citizens and to societies which value instant gratification over all else. This results in the utter destruction of family, education, science, religion, defense, history, identity, innovation, and all which constitutes a society.

14. Sloth leads to apathy. Apathy is a main root of evil. Apathetic people either change their ways or meet with destruction. Apathy leads to numbness, the surest way to lose one's moral compass.

Covetousness
15. "To covet" means to intensely desire something one lacks. Covetousness has lead to the majority of wars in history - usually to gain land and power.

16. Covetousness and knowledge/wisdom can lead to wanting knowledge solely for the purpose of obtaining a better position in life - a better job or educational degree for its material value, rather than knowledge for its own value. Covetousness with wealth leads to an unending desire - a pit. Covetousness and envy results in ill will toward others. Covetousness tangled with authority, religion, and society leads to those with power abusing it for material gain (the Europeans coveting the New World, which resulted in genocide of Native Americans).

17. A coveting society leads to materialistic, hyper-consuming, overextended citizens. Observe the materialistic side of the "American dream", truly a nightmare many wear around the neck for comfort. Time passes, the person grows, but the dream cannot grow with them - tighter and tighter the nightmare grips their necks until feeling suffocated by their own belongings.

Tithing
18. Tithing means giving 10% of one's income to a church or charitable cause.

19. Many churches have embraced materialism with disregard to improving the local community. For this reason tithe to a charity with open, accurate accounting of all donations.

20. "Take heed that you do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise you have no reward of your Father which is in Heaven. Therefore when thou do thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know that thy right hand doeth: thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly." -Matthew 6:1-4

21. In this Jesus explains when you give to charity do so anonymously; because when you announce yourself as charitable, you have already received your reward. Donating in secret - your reward is with God. Giving in secret protects one from pride and inspires others. When charity is advertised it humanizes the deed, gives it a face, and this reduces the effect. To give in secret allows others to wonder who gave so humbly. This act of charity and humility inspires others and creates a lasting mystery. Nothing lurks in the mind more than a mystery. Nothing impacts the spirit more than an uplifting mystery.

Sabbath
22. The Sabbath is a day of rest. It is a remembrance of god's day of rest, but it is the day of rest for Yaldabaoth, the untrue god, who created our bodies to encase the Divine Light (see Chapter 3). Nevertheless, the Sabbath is needed as a break from work.

23. Good deeds and certain works are still to be performed on the Sabbath. Jesus and his disciples picked corn on the Sabbath, only to be criticized by others. Jesus healed a man's withered hand on the Sabbath and was denounced. Jesus responded, "What man shall there be among you, that shall have one sheep, and if it fall into a pit on the Sabbath day, will he not hold on it, and lift it out?" -Matthew 12:11 Jesus also said, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath." -Mark 2:27 Remember the Sabbath is a day of rest but not a day of sloth. The work of God (good deeds) takes no vacation.

24. The debate over the exact day to observe the Sabbath has resulted in religious bickering (Sunday for many Christians, Saturday for Jews and Seventh Day Adventists, and Friday for Muslims). The exact day is of little consequence. "The Sabbath was only made strict for those who disagreed as to its observance; but Allah will judge between them on the Day of Judgment, as to their differences." -Quran 16:124 This is a reminder not to argue the petty disagreement concerning the exact day of the Sabbath; because God will settle it when you come to Him. The main point is the need to reserve a day to retire from work.

Fear of God
25. Many claim God is to be feared. Only the false god, the wrathful god, wishes to be feared. The true God wants only to bring enlightenment and never be feared.

26. The fear of something creates a distance, an untraversable gap, between the one who fears and the object of fear. Fear of God is an invention by humanity, especially for those who claim to be God's messengers, as a way of inferring that the fear of God, by extension, means you should fear those close to God. This fear empowers certain people over the masses and usually leads to corruption.

27. When a person or organization cannot rule people by will alone, it rules through fear. "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind." -2 Timothy 1:7

28. Shed your fears, like a snake sheds its skin, then you will find renewal and a clearer understanding of God.

Marriage
29. Marriage should never end in divorce unless adultery arises or danger to one's mental or physical health exists; because marriage is a bond on many levels, a uniting of two people into one, and an extension of willpower.

30. Live with a person one year or more before marrying. An individual is more unpredictable than weather, and observe how often weather surprises us.

31. Never practice polygamy or polyandry unless a two-to-one (or higher) ratio between genders exists in your society.

32. Don't marry until living at least one-third through the local, average lifespan. Passion and love must be tempered and tested, and time is the best test.

Materialism in Religion
33. Administrators over houses of worship are often effective at spreading knowledge and wisdom. However, many become trapped by wealth and jealousy.

34. Religions promoting excessive materialism are abominations.

35. Read: God in no way wants anyone to be "rich". If one person has the wealth of one hundred families, then one hundred families are lacking. Jesus said, "Verily I say unto you, that a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of God." -Matthew 19:23 As this applies to humans, it especially applies to churches!

36. A true church forgoes increasing physical grandeur; rather a true church focuses on using wealth to better its community.

37. Many churches fixate on jealousy: one church must be more splendid than the others. The very foundation of these churches is built upon sin!

38. Three great religious leaders in history have one thing in common, they didn't need a church. Jesus received the Holy Spirit while in nature (in a river) and conveyed his teachings in nature. Mohammed encountered the Holy Spirit in a cave. Buddha found the Holy Spirit while under a tree.

39. God doesn't reside in a material object. The Temple of Solomon never housed God, but it was used by God to unite the Jews. The true God exists everywhere. True enlightenment will never dawn upon you while in church, listening to a sermon. "Society can only instruct. Inspiration springs forth from solitude."

40. In God's best church on Earth, we don't wear our best clothes. We wear work clothes; because the congregation spreads the Divine Light through the community by actions not words.

Debts
41. When loaned money be knowledgeable of all terms and conditions; because of those who are given much, much is expected.

42. Avoid excessive fines, interest, and people who impose them. Never forget that a for-profit establishment has one purpose: to generate profit.

43. Avoid borrowing money from friends and family; because the bad trappings associated with money has lead to downfall of governments, breakdown of societies, and destruction of churches. How long will a relationship weather this power?

44. Avoid living beyond your financial means. A consumer society creates an artificial sense of dissatisfaction in people, while hinting relief is only to be found in buying. Those overly concerned with wealth can never reach enlightenment. Living beyond one's financial means is the beginning of its own end, exemplified in the Great Depression.

45. Money makes an excellent servant but a poor master!

46. Avoid placing too much value in money. Place value in the work required to earn money and in the potential good deeds for which money can be used. Proper wealth is only the second of six steps in life. Proper wealth is a symptom of a good life. . . not the cause.

Religious Figures
47. In a busy world, many people don't take time to study religion and philosophy. Religious figures, or others who specialize in correct thoughts and actions, serve the need of spreading knowledge in a simple way to understand. However, religious figures are not necessary to know or hear God.

48. Many believe the Divine Light from God is like a river, and religious authorities operate as a dam - they channel this torrent and only these authorities may dispense the waters, otherwise it would overwhelm a common person. Truth is found in this example, but it's not entirely accurate. Consulting with religious authorities is encouraged, but never take their word as dogma. The truth is held within.

Tattoos, Piercings, and Body Modifications
49. Is it a defilement or abomination to receive any tattoo, piercing, or other body modification? No! Those answering 'yes' may claim the body is a temple, but the body is merely a trap for the Divine Light within us.50. What is stamped outside a person doesn't defile what is inside a person. What goes onto the body cannot defile a person, but what comes out of the body (words and actions) has power to defile a person.

Prostitution
51. Prostitution spreads lust rather than quelling it. Prostituting for self gain places one's temporary needs and wants above the permanent damage suffered to the self and society.

52. ". . . force not your maids to prostitution when they desire chastity, in order that ye may make a gain in the goods of this life. But if anyone compels them, yet, after such compulsion, is Allah oft-forgiving, most merciful." Quran 24:33 explains that victims of forced prostitution will be forgiven.

Dietary Laws
53. Most belief systems have foods. The simple yet meaningful saying of Jesus covers any question of dietary laws, "Not that which goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man." -Matthew 15:11

54. Apply scientific knowledge, rather than religious beliefs, as basis for a diet, and remember the balance of environment.

Slavery
55. Slavery is next to ; because enslaving another is imposing one's will over a human for a temporary time (if the slave is liberated), and is imposing one's will over a human for a permanent time. This is the only difference relative to time.

56. The single difference relative to the physical: imposes one's will over another's spirit, body, and mind - slavery imposes one's will over another's body only. The spirit and mind and voluntarily turned over in times of slavery.

57. No justification of slavery holds up to proper ethics or morals.

Are Jews the Chosen People?
58. Many claim the events of the Old Testament prove the Jews are chosen by God. However, many religious groups have experienced miracles and intervention by God, which shows the true God embraces all as the "chosen". Do you desire and believe in a God who practices favoritism as humans do? This favoritism is a human trait attached to God, a serious error.

59. "Say: 'O yet that stand on Judaism! If you think that you are friends to Allah, to the exclusion of other men, then express your desire for death, if you are truthful!" –Quran 62:6 This passage means if Jews believe themselves to be the chosen people of God, then they should desire to be with God.

Capital Punishment
60. An eye for an eye leaves the world blind. If a person murders, then he should be forced to devote his entire life to the cause which preoccupied the slain victim. For example, if a man murders a factory-working mother of three, then he should do similar work and all money earned be given to the victim's children and charities for orphans.

61. You have heard, "An eye for an eye", but whoever murders was already blind, and the proper remedy is to force open the eyes of the decrepit so they may see the Light.

62. Forced servitude, rather than the death penalty for a murder, is a type of slavery. However, people capable of murder were already a slave to their passions, and through assuming a role in life like their victim they are more likely to find that Light they extinguished.

63. Proper moral justice benefits the maximum amount of people and attempts to discover and bring forth "good" out of the most evil situations. The death penalty doesn't meet these criteria in either aspect.
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what is the point of all these spiritual declarations you have been posting lately.

is this the world governing manifesto?
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40928905 - Telegramist jõudsid siia? Lol
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Well he is the accuser lol.
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why do the royals act like their descendants of christ when they are not
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Chris, much of what you say about sex and relationships (though some of it makes sense like the distraction/priority related stuff) is based on trying to compensate for problems caused by the discrepancies between the society we created and the sexual environment we evolved in (which was very promiscuous as evidenced by our biology). You should definitely read the book Sex at Dawn by Christopher Ryan.

[link to www.amazon.com]

Society should be shaped to match our sexual nature as closely as possible. Jealousy, obsession, perversion, and pretty much every other bad thing associated with sex is hugely exacerbated by the expectation of monogamy being the norm.

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somewhat

what is the point of all these spiritual declarations you have been posting lately.

is this the world governing manifesto?
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To me it doesn't matter if ppl have swinger orgies galore, but like I said donating 90% of one's waking hours to all things sexual isn't a way to live or a healthy society. However, it is true that chemicals released during sex is a major factor in 'falling in love'. Haven't you known someone who is extremely promiscuous and seemingly incapable of truly loving someone? Chemical factors are to blame there on top of environmental factors like said person's early sexual experiences or environment in which they were raised.

A promiscuous society often places the WANTS of adults over the NEEDS of children. Promiscuity mostly entails an off-and-on-single adult w/ a series of partners. Which is fine if the adult is w/o kids, but place children into the equation things turn sour. Raising a child is hard enough for two parents but a single parent seldom is able to donate quality time like two parents can. There can always be joint custody but we all know that's hit-and-miss in reality. Numerous men have issues after a failed relationship of separating hatred for their ex-girlfriend from their love of children from the relationship. Some men have a notion of "if I can't have her then I don't want the kids either." I see a hypersexual society being many single mothers and most men paying out child support to many of them. An overly sexual society maybe could work but ppl have to place the priority of a child's wellbeing first. Society being shaped to match our sexual nature closely as possible would be like shaping it to match our wrathful nature. Wrath has direct victims, but lust has indirect victims as children of broken homes.


Chris, much of what you say about sex and relationships (though some of it makes sense like the distraction/priority related stuff) is based on trying to compensate for problems caused by the discrepancies between the society we created and the sexual environment we evolved in (which was very promiscuous as evidenced by our biology). You should definitely read the book Sex at Dawn by Christopher Ryan.

[link to www.amazon.com]

Society should be shaped to match our sexual nature as closely as possible. Jealousy, obsession, perversion, and pretty much every other bad thing associated with sex is hugely exacerbated by the expectation of monogamy being the norm.
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Joshua to Solomon

Chapter 16: Joshua to Solomon

Joshua

1. Joshua, successor of Moses, conquered much of modern-day Israel through a series of military campaigns. Joshua passed away at age 110.

2. The Israelites sinned against and strayed away from the proper way of life, resulting to the period of instability in Israel called the "time of the judges".

3. During a battle against Israel, the Jews relied on the Ark of the Covenant to save them. This failed, and the Philistines stole the Ark, keeping it for several months. The Jews were devastated and lost. When a religion is intertwined with a material object so the two are inseparable, what remains of the religion once the object is removed?

David
4. The Philistines gathered to battle the Israelites. Each army gathered on opposite sides of a valley, and to settle the battle, both groups sent out champion warriors. The Philistines sent out Goliath (a Nephilim, warring giant), and the Israelites sent forth David, armed with only a sling and stones.

5. Despite his advantages Goliath was killed by David when one of his stones hit and sank into the giant's head. Because of Goliath's giganticism, he suffered a disease - what make him strong was a deadly weakness. Goliath's complete dependence upon his physical strength and appearance was his undoing. The physical is always with flaws, yet the faith of David was his victory. Proper spiritual thought can seem flawless.

6. David was called to be armor-bearer to Saul, king of Israel. Later David would marry Saul's daughter and befriend Jonathan, Saul's son. Saul became jealous of David and banished him. David returned as king of Judah after war with the Philistines left no proper heir to the throne. Around 993 BC David was made king of Israel and expanded Israel's borders, conquering the Philistines (West Bank), Ammonites and Moabites (Jordan), Edomites (south Israel and Jordan), and the Aramaeans (Syria). David made Zion (Jerusalem) into the capital city.

7. David committed adultery, and this sin resulted in recurring problems within his family. David chose his son, Solomon, as his successor.

8. "Have patience at what they say, and remember our servant David, the man of strength: for he ever turned to Allah." -Quran 38:17

Solomon
9. Solomon began his reign around 961 BC. In a dream God appeared to Solomon and asked what he desired. Solomon requested wisdom to properly guide his people. God was moved Solomon asked for wisdom rather than wealth or long life; because wisdom and knowledge is the beginning of the Path - not wealth or power. This fact most people in authority fail to accept.

10. God was so pleased by this request He gave Solomon wisdom in addition to things for which he didn't ask (great wealth, health, and reputation).

11. Solomon was filled with the Divine Light and had knowledge and wisdom unknown to nearly any human since. So much was his understanding that king Solomon could comprehend the language of animals. He used birds to scout areas around the kingdom. "And Solomon was David's heir. He said, 'O ye people! We have been taught the speech of birds, and on us has been bestowed a little of all things: this is indeed Grace manifest from Allah!'" -Quran 27:16

12. Solomon took advantage of the era of peace in the kingdom and constructed a temple to God for unification of his people.

13. A workforce of tens of thousands labored seven years to complete the temple.

14. Solomon had power over invisible spirits (the inner-Nephilim and actual demons), using them to help construct the temple.

15. With all his wisdom, Solomon was blinded by his pride, his downfall. Solomon focused on grandiose projects and neglected his people, resulting in later turmoil in Israel.

Freemasonry
16. Hiram of Tyre was the master mason of the Temple. He refused to give secret knowledge to three ruffians and was murdered because of this. Freemasons point to this as the symbolic start of Freemasonry.

17. Going with a Freemason theme, compare building a house to living one's life. Imagine the natural pull of gravity is the natural pull of life - the sinful character which exists in everyone at birth, the animal in us all. Rather than submit to gravity, a mason will construct a dwelling with first a foundation. Rather than submit to our basic instincts we, as civilized beings, construct a life with knowledge and wisdom as the foundation. Then the mason constructs walls which run perpendicular to the ground and seem to defy gravity. A civilized human will also construct wall of wealth, self-improvement, and proper authority which seem to defy his own sinful nature. The mason will build a roof over his dwelling for protection from the elements. A civilized human will build spirituality, ethics, and society over him for protection from that which threatens his lifestyle. See how one without the other causes the entirety to fail. Religion (roof) without knowledge (foundation) cannot stand. Knowledge (a foundation) with no purpose (building the rest of the house) protects us from nothing. Wealth, self-improvement, and authority (the walls) without a foundation (knowledge/wisdom) will soon fall, and without a roof (religion and society) we are exposed.
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I can't show you the exact document but as far as your economy (which causes you the most trouble) goes, here are some details. . .
1. Everyone gets a retinal scan at least a week after birth to distribute currency.
2. Currency will not be transferable between individuals (this is still being debated)
3. Currency will be called 'credit(s)'
4. You earn money by doing a task which benefits you, society, or both in a positive manner.
5. A committee decides the value of the tasks.
6. The committee is made up of everyone who wishes to participate and has studied 4 or more years at a school of higher learning.
7. A task may be introduced through a petition of 100 signatures and must be approved by 20 people with 6 years of higher learning.


The world government won't have a single ruler like you think either. You'll have 5 Presidents and 5 Vice-Presidents all in office for 5 years - voting takes place once a year this way.

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Our Spiritual Declaration: Zoroaster

Chapter 17: Zoroaster

Zoroaster

1. Zoroaster lived in modern-day Iran sometime after 1000 BC (widely accepted date is around 630 BC).

2. His teachings are collected in the Zend Avesta. The following is a few of Zoroaster's most important teachings.

3. This passage emphasizes the importance and effectiveness of proper prayer, thought, and action: "The wise whom thou knowest as worthy, for their right doing and their good thought, for them do thou fulfill their longing for attainment. For I know words of prayer are effective whith Ye, which tend to a good object." -Zend Avesta (Yasna 28:10)

4. The difficulty in distinguishing good and evil - "Now the two primal Spirits, who reveal themselves in vision as Twins, are the Better and the Bad, in thought and word and action. And between these two the wise ones chose aright, the foolish not so. And when these twain Spirits came together in the beginning, they created Life and Not-Life, and that at the last Worst Existence shall be to the followers of the Lie, but the Best Existence to him that follow Right." -Zend Avesta (Yasna 30:3-4) Good and evil often appear identical in physical, mental, and spiritual appearance. Thoughts, words, and actions are properly separated and distinguished in this passage. "The Lie" is a main theme of Zoroaster.

5. "About which He (God) in the beginning thus thought, 'Let the blessed realms be filled with Light,' he it is that by his wisdom created Right. Those realms that the Best Thought shall possess those dost Thou exalt, O Mazda, through the Spirit, which, O Ahura, is ever the same." Ahura Mazda (Lord Wisdom) is the title associated with God in Zoroastrianism. 'Blessed realms be filled with Light' is a reference to Pistis and His Divine Light.

6. "When Thou, O Mazda, in the beginning didst create the Individual and the Individuality, through Thy Spirit, and powers of understanding - when Thou didst make life clothed with the body, when Thou madest actions and teachings, whereby one may exercise one's convictions at one's free-will." -Zend Avesta (Yasna 31:11) Here is seperation of the individual and individuality - the lone human with all associated qualities. Also this correctly states the body is merely clothing for the Divine Light and life.

7. "By Piety the man become Holy. Such person advances Right through his thinking, his words, his action, his Self. By Good Thought Ahura Mazda will give the Dominion. For this good Destiny I long." -Zend Avesta (Yasna 51:21) Piety means showing respect to God. Good Thought is the beginning of piety, as Good Thought shows respect to God.

8. The theme of 'good' verses 'evil' was emphasized by Zoroaster.

9. The concept of Hell was popularized by Zoroaster. Zoroastrianism had more influence than the Bible, concerning the Western concept of afterlife.

10. For Zoroastrians in the afterlife your spirit sits at the body's head and prays for your future. Then your soul crosses a river, growing wider and wider as the tears of your relatives fill it. You cross a bridge to meet the angels of judgement. If you lived a good life, the path will be wide and easy. If you have lead an evil life, the bridge will turn razor-thin, causing you to fall into Hell. In the afterlife you encounter a person of the opposite who reflects your own deeds, thoughts, and actions. This person stays with you in the afterlife. If you fall into Hell, your punishment is determined according to your sin. In Heaven you live as you did on Earth but in a utopian setting.

11. Zoroaster's teachings obviously influenced later religions (Christianity and Islam). Zoroaster prayed for enlightenment for all mankind, and after his life the flood gates of the Divine Light were opened upon the world. Thus spoke Zarathustra!
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somewhat

what is the point of all these spiritual declarations you have been posting lately.

is this the world governing manifesto?
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trying to impose a one world style government on this specially designated planet will not work.

it is counter to some of the beings experiencing on this planet. the move to this, has signaled the conclusion of this planets purpose.

the goal is to graduate from the 3rd density experience and move on. it can never happen when you adhere to one world government principles.

the move to graduation is in motion, including the planetary higher self. each higher self has a unique energy vibration. it is this unique vibration that has to shine through eventually.

severely diminishing the pathways for this expression on this planet has brought about the only solution - graduation.

a miscalculation on the part of those spearheading this planets move to one world, has been the ramping up of breeding to introduce minion incarnations (planetary spirit animated)to be the majority on this planet.

this is an attack on the planetary spirits path. an aberration, where the only possible solution is to remove life on this planet.

this will be different then the time of atlantis. there will be no rebound, as it has been proven that the same nonsense will simply start again. the planetary higher self has learned, and will graduate with us.
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If we wanted to really hurt you we could do so in unimaginable ways. There's no need for us to add extra suffering - normal people do that well enough on their own to each other. We actually help more than hurt - for example, a massive earthquake was to hit LA in the 1980s, but that didn't fit into the plan. We had Buddhist monks and the Hopi Native Americans to intervene and make it much less severe.

whats the point of this existence if the people that can protect us actually hurt us
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i think not many people TRULY understand what he is saying, you are clutching to these right and wrong human ideas for lack of a better word and you let your anger distort your ability to fully receive his message...when i read it everything , i mean all of it made sense...think if what hes saying is true, then this life in this form , for him/them must be pretty tough reincarnation into this lower density body, knowing who u are , remembering what they could be, over and over, going against their very nature which is supposed to be a level higher then Jah as a group complex, i mean that is insane...think of all the levels of growth they all had to complete before they were able to reach this place in their cycle but do not just picture enlightened being try to envision what intelligent self control , awareness and overall pure being they would have to have reached to not only get to their level but to also be trusted in this "mission" they took upon themselves by coming here... .they are supposed to be "offering", throwing in the faces of those who would be distracted these unimaginable evil choices, just to see if any of us take the bait..my take is that they never physically get involved, but just think of ALL that he said, and how perfect it fits, do not get angry, that was his contract on this planet, and when they all go back and they deserve to finally go , im sure you and him will meet sometime in between and perhaps choose another scenario to play in together again...those out of the family, group complex i suppose , if any EVER took Actual pleasure while enforcing this agenda, being the catalyst and presenting us with this incredible long evil plan which in turn we did need to finally evolve, well then , i do speculate ,they will have to answer for that and perhaps not even be able to go back with the rest ..since he did say that there is that karmic purification life after they are done here..nothing goes on without it being unaccounted for in any of your soul's eternal life..them out of all groups, im sure are aware of the effect it may have in their next step and the implications... the greater this suffering, the greater the reward though... and as of what is coming, just know that its the last time..all of us no matter how or in which way, need to move on..i do remember while back when i read his answers , i do recall him saying that their place will be replaced yet nobody asked him by who?? since this is the last "earth" or us the last generation who from my understanding will be reincarnated without knowing , who we are , how creation and our logos works, everything...but as of the dark side, now if this universe we have been entangling with this group in the most, ahh Lucifer, complex, now is that to assume that nowhere does it exist, this Darkness , the source , place , planet , true groups it may reside in?? i mean since they played the devils role yet were so good? or is there another place , universes etc that Only and only deals with lets say the Trash , evil that we try to pluck ourselves from by choosing this game, this pulling toward the light, etc..i would love to hear the answer...im sorry its my first day on here , and if im writing in the wrong place i do not mean to offend ANYBODY..

maybe we should all try to level out all this shit in our heads..try not to eat any of these morphing biochipped parasites that bond to our human DNA which are in everything form air to foods, try given these insects the right METALS.... the ones our DNA database might be able to power on with and access 2use in these times coming...and i bet these parasitic robots will not be bonding to our DNA if it was shielded.......they would die out....we need to access one another s true origins and plug into them organically i think in order to skip a lot of unnecessary blood spill....but its not the pain on this plane that scares me, but the possibilities and misused technology that others whose agendas i cant even phantom could use and are using against us...to me it seems so much more complex then what we all see on the surface...mutations that could and never, should never be could become traps....i mean the subconscious of a human, the young Logos even ..ugh....intelligent design is being used against us, what could that ultimately mean??? , what would that create , my god talk about a real harvest...not for us either....we need to really link to one another , perhaps make our piece and move as a group together ..and NOT into a zeta space ship, and not trading our bodies and slipping into the 4th air :)

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If we wanted to really hurt you we could do so in unimaginable ways. There's no need for us to add extra suffering - normal people do that well enough on their own to each other. We actually help more than hurt - for example, a massive earthquake was to hit LA in the 1980s, but that didn't fit into the plan. We had Buddhist monks and the Hopi Native Americans to intervene and make it much less severe.

whats the point of this existence if the people that can protect us actually hurt us
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i think not many people TRULY understand what he is saying, you are clutching to these right and wrong human ideas for lack of a better word and you let your anger distort your ability to fully receive his message...when i read it everything , i mean all of it made sense...think if what hes saying is true, then this life in this form , for him/them must be pretty tough reincarnation into this lower density body, knowing who u are , remembering what they could be, over and over, going against their very nature which is supposed to be a level higher then Jah as a group complex, i mean that is insane...think of all the levels of growth they all had to complete before they were able to reach this place in their cycle but do not just picture enlightened being try to envision what intelligent self control , awareness and overall pure being they would have to have reached to not only get to their level but to also be trusted in this "mission" they took upon themselves by coming here... .they are supposed to be "offering", throwing in the faces of those who would be distracted these unimaginable evil choices, just to see if any of us take the bait..my take is that they never physically get involved, but just think of ALL that he said, and how perfect it fits, do not get angry, that was his contract on this planet, and when they all go back and they deserve to finally go , im sure you and him will meet sometime in between and perhaps choose another scenario to play in together again...those out of the family, group complex i suppose , if any EVER took Actual pleasure while enforcing this agenda, being the catalyst and presenting us with this incredible long evil plan which in turn we did need to finally evolve, well then , i do speculate ,they will have to answer for that and perhaps not even be able to go back with the rest ..since he did say that there is that karmic purification life after they are done here..nothing goes on without it being unaccounted for in any of your soul's eternal life..them out of all groups, im sure are aware of the effect it may have in their next step and the implications... the greater this suffering, the greater the reward though... and as of what is coming, just know that its the last time..all of us no matter how or in which way, need to move on..i do remember while back when i read his answers , i do recall him saying that their place will be replaced yet nobody asked him by who?? since this is the last "earth" or us the last generation who from my understanding will be reincarnated without knowing , who we are , how creation and our logos works, everything...but as of the dark side, now if this universe we have been entangling with this group in the most, ahh Lucifer, complex, now is that to assume that nowhere does it exist, this Darkness , the source , place , planet , true groups it may reside in?? i mean since they played the devils role yet were so good? or is there another place , universes etc that Only and only deals with lets say the Trash , evil that we try to pluck ourselves from by choosing this game, this pulling toward the light, etc..i would love to hear the answer...im sorry its my first day on here , and if im writing in the wrong place i do not mean to offend ANYBODY..

maybe we should all try to level out all this shit in our heads..try not to eat any of these morphing biochipped parasites that bond to our human DNA which are in everything form air to foods, try given these insects the right METALS.... the ones our DNA database might be able to power on with and access 2use in these times coming...and i bet these parasitic robots will not be bonding to our DNA if it was shielded.......they would die out....we need to access one another s true origins and plug into them organically i think in order to skip a lot of unnecessary blood spill....but its not the pain on this plane that scares me, but the possibilities and misused technology that others whose agendas i cant even phantom could use and are using against us...to me it seems so much more complex then what we all see on the surface...mutations that could and never, should never be could become traps....i mean the subconscious of a human, the young Logos even ..ugh....intelligent design is being used against us, what could that ultimately mean??? , what would that create , my god talk about a real harvest...not for us either....we need to really link to one another , perhaps make our piece and move as a group together ..and NOT into a zeta space ship, and not trading our bodies and slipping into the 4th air :)


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don't confuse spiritual progression with a linear time frame. some of these players have been in this galaxy for millions, if not billions of years.

they are caught up in experiential loops of control, and very advanced in their methods. they, in actuality refuse to spiritually progress out of their control mindset.

how they reconcile progressing on to higher densities and new experiences apart from galaxy participation with the need to control others is beyond me.

the higher density's do not have and do not need hierarchies and technology. what they get away with here, would not be tolerated for a second in higher densities.

universal principles are respected and adhered to.

like attracts like: a synergy occurs when the like minded get together. an energy infusion that enhances both beings.

allowance: let others do what they will, it is their path and respected. unless they threaten to impose on you.

in a sense the controllers do adhere to like attracts like, but do not practice allowance in the least.

they are not ready for higher densities.
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If we wanted to really hurt you we could do so in unimaginable ways. There's no need for us to add extra suffering - normal people do that well enough on their own to each other. We actually help more than hurt - for example, a massive earthquake was to hit LA in the 1980s, but that didn't fit into the plan. We had Buddhist monks and the Hopi Native Americans to intervene and make it much less severe.

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i think not many people TRULY understand what he is saying, you are clutching to these right and wrong human ideas for lack of a better word and you let your anger distort your ability to fully receive his message...when i read it everything , i mean all of it made sense...think if what hes saying is true, then this life in this form , for him/them must be pretty tough reincarnation into this lower density body, knowing who u are , remembering what they could be, over and over, going against their very nature which is supposed to be a level higher then Jah as a group complex, i mean that is insane...think of all the levels of growth they all had to complete before they were able to reach this place in their cycle but do not just picture enlightened being try to envision what intelligent self control , awareness and overall pure being they would have to have reached to not only get to their level but to also be trusted in this "mission" they took upon themselves by coming here... .they are supposed to be "offering", throwing in the faces of those who would be distracted these unimaginable evil choices, just to see if any of us take the bait..my take is that they never physically get involved, but just think of ALL that he said, and how perfect it fits, do not get angry, that was his contract on this planet, and when they all go back and they deserve to finally go , im sure you and him will meet sometime in between and perhaps choose another scenario to play in together again...those out of the family, group complex i suppose , if any EVER took Actual pleasure while enforcing this agenda, being the catalyst and presenting us with this incredible long evil plan which in turn we did need to finally evolve, well then , i do speculate ,they will have to answer for that and perhaps not even be able to go back with the rest ..since he did say that there is that karmic purification life after they are done here..nothing goes on without it being unaccounted for in any of your soul's eternal life..them out of all groups, im sure are aware of the effect it may have in their next step and the implications... the greater this suffering, the greater the reward though... and as of what is coming, just know that its the last time..all of us no matter how or in which way, need to move on..i do remember while back when i read his answers , i do recall him saying that their place will be replaced yet nobody asked him by who?? since this is the last "earth" or us the last generation who from my understanding will be reincarnated without knowing , who we are , how creation and our logos works, everything...but as of the dark side, now if this universe we have been entangling with this group in the most, ahh Lucifer, complex, now is that to assume that nowhere does it exist, this Darkness , the source , place , planet , true groups it may reside in?? i mean since they played the devils role yet were so good? or is there another place , universes etc that Only and only deals with lets say the Trash , evil that we try to pluck ourselves from by choosing this game, this pulling toward the light, etc..i would love to hear the answer...im sorry its my first day on here , and if im writing in the wrong place i do not mean to offend ANYBODY..

maybe we should all try to level out all this shit in our heads..try not to eat any of these morphing biochipped parasites that bond to our human DNA which are in everything form air to foods, try given these insects the right METALS.... the ones our DNA database might be able to power on with and access 2use in these times coming...and i bet these parasitic robots will not be bonding to our DNA if it was shielded.......they would die out....we need to access one another s true origins and plug into them organically i think in order to skip a lot of unnecessary blood spill....but its not the pain on this plane that scares me, but the possibilities and misused technology that others whose agendas i cant even phantom could use and are using against us...to me it seems so much more complex then what we all see on the surface...mutations that could and never, should never be could become traps....i mean the subconscious of a human, the young Logos even ..ugh....intelligent design is being used against us, what could that ultimately mean??? , what would that create , my god talk about a real harvest...not for us either....we need to really link to one another , perhaps make our piece and move as a group together ..and NOT into a zeta space ship, and not trading our bodies and slipping into the 4th air :)


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don't confuse spiritual progression with a linear time frame. some of these players have been in this galaxy for millions, if not billions of years.

they are caught up in experiential loops of control, and very advanced in their methods. they, in actuality refuse to spiritually progress out of their control mindset.

how they reconcile progressing on to higher densities and new experiences apart from galaxy participation with the need to control others is beyond me.

the higher density's do not have and do not need hierarchies and technology. what they get away with here, would not be tolerated for a second in higher densities.

universal principles are respected and adhered to.

like attracts like: a synergy occurs when the like minded get together. an energy infusion that enhances both beings.

allowance: let others do what they will, it is their path and respected. unless they threaten to impose on you.

in a sense the controllers do adhere to like attracts like, but do not practice allowance in the least.

they are not ready for higher densities.
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oh i think u misunderstood me or maybe i misunderstand u ////time is not linear , i know that ...for one i was curios of his interpretation of dark matter, or darkness period as in good vs bad in the first part..since he is good in simple terms, hence allowed by the worlds elders whatever to come become the free will in between levels of ascession and took on the noble yet difficult task of becoming human (with 30DNA strands only) mind u and go against his/their nature which is to be so enlightened, evolved -good, and be that evil choice 2the ones who are truly evil in our world would be attracted to and follow. like he said the family is in the shadows these ugly fuks we see and think run the world are but a front, they are the puppets , they think that they are alien super beings but are just trash in the end, and will end up as such..superior beings looking like the queen and Bush lol oh my ....anyway i just wanted the polarity the darnkness addressed thats all...now for the second part that was for all of us that arent part of the same shits i mentioned above or their circles...All i was trying to say is to keep in mind and hopefully for those who this is supposed to reach, it will make that crucial difference for their lives... reactivate your own truth and answers from the organic dormant database literally stored in your DNA..
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Chapter 18: Thales

1. The ancient Greek philosopher, Thales, was the first popular figure who attempted to explain the world around him by scientific inquiry, rather than mystical means. He is in the Ranks of the Righteous for using knowledge as a foundation for life. Thales was born in modern-day Turkey around 630 BC.

2. Thales traveled to Africa and acquired the Egyptian's knowledge of geometry. He traveled to the Middle East and gained access to astrological records of the Babylonians and Chaldeans.

3. Thales was deeply interested in mathematics. Mathematics is the purest and most objective form of knowledge. As knowledge/wisdom is the first step on the Path of Humanity, mathematics is (next to language, social skills, and physical development) the beginning of that first step; therefore math is one of the first steps on the entire Path. Mathematics is the language of God. Geometry is especially important as it relates this language of God into our everyday, physical lives and is nearly the closest inquiry through which one may understand God's nature.

4. Thales believed water is the substance from which all things spring forth. He viewed water as the unifying substance of all things material. This was incorrect, but still modern-day physics has yet to discover what the unifying element of the universe is. Many creation stories claim water existed before all else (see Chapter 10). However, Thales probably reached his conclusion through observation, as water exhibits itself as a solid, liquid, and gas.

5. Thales believed the soul is the cause of all movement. Basic it may be, but Thales was mostly correct, as you'll later understand.

6. Thales said the earth floats on water, and earthquakes came from the roughness of the ocean.

7. With analysis of Middle Eastern astrological records, Thales predicted the total solar eclipse of May 28, 585 BC.

8. Thales set the correct date of the summer solstice. He observed the sun from Mount Mycale near his home. Remember, on peaks one finds peace. Thales observed the sun over a period of years to determine the correct solstice date.

9. Thales advised sailors to navigate using the constellation Ursa Minor; because it shifts less in the sky than other constellations.

10. The Great Pyramid was thousands of years old when Thales visited Egypt, yet its height remained a mystery. Thales simply waited until the time of day when his shadow's length equaled his height. He then measured the Pyramid's shadow, which equaled its own height. This was the first popular use of a ratio.

11. The importance of Thales cannot be overestimated. He was a role for the idea that we must invest in knowledge before religious beliefs are formed. This doesn't mean knowledge is more important than religion. It's simply the order in which they occur.
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Chapter 19: Lao-Tzu and Taoism


1. Lao-Tzu was born in China around 600 BC.

2. Before dwelling into Lao-Tzu's teachings, first consider the emerging difference between Western and Eastern thought. Eastern thought travels in a circle - all things are ends and beginnings of themselves and repeat. On this circle there is no 'close' or 'far', it's all subjective. Western thought goes in a straight line, a definite beginning and end to all things. This thought views things as objective. Both schools of thought have truth and faults. Consider the shape of DNA as a modern-day reminder of the truth. DNA exists as a spiral ladder twisting up and down. Thought is neither circular nor linear but a ladder forever spiraling upward and downward. Things do repeat but not in an exact manner. Actions lead us nearer or farther from the truth and happiness, yet in an often redundant way requiring patience.

3. Lao-Tzu founded the religion Taoism. "Tao" is what keeps the universe balanced. The following is a few basic teachings of Taoism with following commentary.

4. "The first practice is the practice of undiscriminating virtue: take care of those who are deserving; also, and equally, take care of those who are not. When you extend your virtue in all directions without discriminating, your feet are firmly planted on the path that returns to the Tao."

5. Charity must have no barriers, a universal truth.

6. "Those who wish to embody the Tao should embrace all things. To embrace all things means first that one holds no anger or resistance toward any idea or thing, living or , formed or formless. Acceptance is the very essence of the Tao."

7. This can be easily misinterpreted. Acceptance of all things is maddening. Acceptance of lies leads to the most depressing pages in history (the most evil thing is abusing power, the second most evil is those who allow it to happen). Acceptance of truth leads to the most uplifting events. Distinguish between considering and accepting. We must consider everything and only accept the bad when we have no control over it. Taoism calls for ridding the mind of all knowledge, but we can never"uneat" the apple from the Tree of Knowledge. However, we can try to separate ourselves from our knowledge - stand outside part of our knowledge to view it without barriers.

8. "Some help others in order to receive blessings and admiration. This is simply meaningless. Some cultivate themselves in part to serve others, in part to serve their own pride. They will understand, at best, half of the truth. But those who improve themselves for the sake of the world - to these, the whole truth of the universe will be revealed."

9. When the motivation behind self-improvement is benefiting others, not the self, enlightenment occurs. The best choice in life benefits yourself and others in equal amounts.

10. "Do not go about worshiping deities and religious institutions as the source of the subtle truth. To do so is to place intermediaries between yourself and the divine, and to make of yourself a beggar who looks outside for a treasure that is hidden inside his own breast. If you want to worship the Tao, first discover it in your own heart. Then your worship will be meaningful."

11. To know God you must first know yourself. Progress in life begins with knowledge, and knowledge of the self is most important. Answering the question of how best you learn and what your inner gifts are is the first step to knowing yourself. Society, religion, government,friends, family - no one can truly bring out your Inner Light except you.

12. "When the best leader's work is done the people say, 'We did it ourselves.'"

13. Indeed a government must take no credit for its results - that belongs to the people. Yet Lao-Tzu goes on to declare a nearly non-existent government is ideal. Taoism runs to an extreme in matters of government. On one extreme a socialist government controlling all affairs of life is unbearable, and on the other extreme a nearly non-existent government allowing human desires to run rampant is just as unbearable. When events allow a government to progress (economic upturn, peace, social rest)its role is to achieve a beneficial goal to society which is impossible or improbable for any individual, group, or company to achieve.

14. "Favor and disgrace would seem equally to be feared; honor and great calamity, to be regarded as personal conditions. What is meant by speaking thus of favor and disgrace? Disgrace is being in a low position(after the enjoyment of favor). The getting that favor leads to the apprehension of losing it, and the losing it leads to the fear of still greater calamity: - this is what is meant by saying that favor and disgrace would seem equally to be feared. . ."

15. One can achieve favor or disgrace without bad trappings. Strip away notions of favor and disgrace from others, and concentrate on how you view yourself. Using others as a measuring stick against you leads to unhealthy thoughts. In this Information Age we view millions of skills and talents in our lifetime, compared to merely thousands viewed by the last generation. People feel compelled to compare themselves to the best qualities of others. The unwise see the best humor in another, not the abusiveness; see the wealth in another, not the depression; see popularity in another, not loneliness; see physical beauty in another, not the . Transposing the best of everyone onto yourself is meaningless, then you ceaseto exist as an individual - you are a conglomeration of others. Favor and disgrace from the self is healthy. Paying heed to favor and disgrace from others in unhealthy. Achieve true favor by being a better person today than you were yesterday. The meaning of "better person" is doing good for yourself and others in equal amounts.

16. "Nothing in the realm of thoughts or ideologies is absolute. Lean on one for long, and it collapses. Because of this,there is nothing more futile and frustrating than relying on the mind. To arrive at the unshakable, you must befriend the Tao. To do this, quiet your thinking. Stop analyzing, dividing, making distinctions between one thing and another. Simply see that you are at the center of the universe,and accept all things and beings as part of your infinite body. When you perceive that an act done to another is done to yourself, you have understood the great truth."

17. Knowledge is only a beginning for greater things. A period of rest is essential, and in the Western world we call this the 'Sabbath'. In Taoism 'wuwei' or 'do nothing' brings one into harmony with the Tao. The Golden Rule is somewhat paraphrased in the above passage, '. . an act done to another is done to yourself.'

18. "Thinking and talking about the Integral Way. . . are not the same as practicing it. Who ever became a good rider by talking about horses?"

19. Think of people who are all direction with no movement. They plan but never act. Think of those who move with no direction. They're animated without a cause.

20. "Those who want to know the truth of the universe should practice the four cardinal virtues. The first is reverence for all life;this manifests as unconditional love and respect for oneself and all other beings. The second is natural sincerity; this manifests as honesty,simplicity, and faithfulness. This third is gentleness; this manifests as kindness, consideration for others, and sensitivity to spiritual truth. The fourth is supportiveness; this manifests as service to others without expectation of reward. The four virtues are not an external dogma but apart of your original nature. When practiced, they give birth to wisdom and evoke the five blessings: health, wealth, happiness, longevity, and peace."

21. This core of Taoism is the very least one should take from it. Universal, natural virtues listed in the Taoist core are sparks which ignite the Divine Light within us.

22. "Do you think you can clear your mind by sitting constantly in silent meditation? This makes your mind narrow, not clear,. Integral awareness is fluid and adaptable, present in all places and at all times. . . Who can attain clarity and simplicity by avoiding the world?"

23. Strike a balance between isolating and socializing; because both are healthy but have diminishing returns after a certain time.

24. "Although most people spend their entire lives following this biological impulse violence), it is only a tiny portion of our beings as well. If we remain obsessed with seeds and eggs, we are married to the fertile reproductive valley of the Mysterious Mother but not to her immeasurable heart and all-knowing mind. . .The first integration of yin and yang is the union of seed and egg within the womb. The second integration of yin and yang is the dual union of the mature male and female. Both of these are concerned with flesh and , and all that is conceived in this realm must one day disintegrate and pass away. It is only the third integration which gives birth to something immortal. In this integration a highly evolved individual joins the subtle inner energies of yin and yang, under the light of spiritual understanding. Through the practice of the . . . Integral Way.. . he refines his gross, heavy energy into something ethereal and light. This Divine Light has the capability of penetrating into the mighty ocean of spiritual energy and complete wisdom that is the Tao."

25. Many people, especially in the Western world, claim Taoism primarily for its knowledge of duality. Clearly, is only a small part of Taoism and is short-lived. True Taoists use dual energy as a small part of fueling spiritual evolution. The dual side of Taoism is 'concerned with flesh and'. If you rise in power through duality, then you fall in power through duality. Those who place special emphasis on dual aspects of Taoism are not true Taoists. is a process inherent in nature. Learning and practicing it will at best place one on the same level as animals.

26. "In the kingdom the multiplication of prohibitive enactments increases the poverty of the people; the more implements to add to their profit that the people have, the greater disorder is there in the state and clan; the more acts of crafty dexterity that men possess, the more so strange contrivances appear; the more display there is of legislation, the more thieves and robbers there are."

27. A balance between conservative and liberals laws is needed in all governments. Most government legislation should have a predetermined lifespan, else democracies and republics slowly shift to socialist states as more prohibitive laws are set forth and compound.

28. "Man takes his law from the Earth; the Earth takes its law from Heaven; Heaven takes its law from the Tao. The law of the Tao is its being what it is."

29. The Tao is higher than Heaven. The Tao (the underlying order of all things) is the Divine Light the Inconceivable One, Pisitis, gives off (see Chapter 1). The way to Pistis/Sophia (Tao) is through Sabaoth, the true God.

30. The Three Jewels of the Tao are compassion, moderation, and humility.

31. The following contains a few proverbs of Lao-Tzu and Taoism:

32. "Life and are one thread, the same line viewed from different sides."

33. "Love is of all passions the strongest, for it attacks simultaneously the head, the heart, and the senses."

34. "Nature does not hurry, yet everything is accomplished."

35. One can not reflect in streaming water. Only those who know internal peace can give it to others."

36. "If you do not change your direction, you may end up where you are heading."

37. "Health is the greatest possession. Contentment is the greatest treasure. Confidence is the greatest friend. Non-being is the greatest joy."

38. "He who conquers others is strong. He who conquers himself is mighty."

39. "A leader is best when people barely know he exists, when his work is done, his aim fulfilled, they will say: 'We did it ourselves.'"

40. "Born to be wild - live to outgrow it."

41. "Fill your bowl to the brim, and it will spill. Keep sharpening your knife, and it will blunt."

42. "When I let go of what I am, I become what I might be."

43. "To see things in the seed, that is genius."

44. Violence, even well intended, always rebounds upon oneself."

45. "To lead people walk behind them."

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oh i think u misunderstood me or maybe i misunderstand u ////time is not linear , i know that ...for one i was curios of his interpretation of dark matter, or darkness period as in good vs bad in the first part..since he is good in simple terms, hence allowed by the worlds elders whatever to come become the free will in between levels of ascession and took on the noble yet difficult task of becoming human (with 30DNA strands only) mind u and go against his/their nature which is to be so enlightened, evolved -good, and be that evil choice 2the ones who are truly evil in our world would be attracted to and follow. like he said the family is in the shadows these ugly fuks we see and think run the world are but a front, they are the puppets , they think that they are alien super beings but are just trash in the end, and will end up as such..superior beings looking like the queen and Bush lol oh my ....anyway i just wanted the polarity the darnkness addressed thats all...now for the second part that was for all of us that arent part of the same shits i mentioned above or their circles...All i was trying to say is to keep in mind and hopefully for those who this is supposed to reach, it will make that crucial difference for their lives... reactivate your own truth and answers from the organic dormant database literally stored in your DNA..
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although I am not who this is addressed to, I would to respond to some of it:

this galaxy is an experiential learning center where polarities exist, and are expressed in male or female. the true you, the one that animates your body is both male and female combined. the body however, is male or female.

polarity is usually referred to as so-called good and so-called evil. in reality they are neither. they are simply two different ways of expressing in the galaxy, and in the big picture, neither can defeat the other. learning to moderate the polarities to become both in your being is a step closer to who you really are, and a step closer to graduation.

there are no beings here, that have incarnated from higher densities to enlighten mankind. this is an illusion some believe, and is encouraged, as it calls for giving away your power. the one's behind this are players in this galaxy, nothing more.

although, they are long time players and very experienced at controlling others through a combination of genetic manipulation, technology, planted belief systems, and hierarchies. in general, very skilled at what they do.

never the less, they cannot defeat the higher purpose of this galaxy's existence. that is to learn, experience, and eventually make the moves necessary to graduate. so-called ascension, graduation is not a mass group endeavor. it is an individual one by one process.

this process is initiated by the one who animates your body. the dna in your body, does have a vault of genetic memory with the liability of dna programs instilled by these controllers. but, the power does not lay in the body, no matter how so-called perfect your dna is. spiritual power trumps anything physical.

the will of your spirit is all powerful, and no one can give it to you. you have to realize it on your own.
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Message to Atheists

When science explains a phenomena some are quick to claim a religious belief has been disproven. Realize if humans can explain HOW an unusual event happened its relation with God isn't negated. The explaination merely shows us how God made such a thing occur.

The most debated topic is Creationism. Of course the Earth is older than 6,000 years or even a million years. Observe how for the Hindu creator, Brahma, one day and night equals 8.6 billion years. And we understand the faster an object travels the slower time progresses for said object when compared to stationary objects. So you see how time for a being with knowledge constantly spaning the universe could pass at a different rate.

Read in Genesis that on the first day God allowed light to the Earth's surface, which occured approximately 4.5 billion years ago. Genesis mentions the Earth was formless, as Earth's core was degassing and ever-changing. On the second day, God separated the water from the atmosphere, occurring around 4 billion years ago. On the third day, dry land appeared, then plants, around 530 million years ago. On the fourth day, the stars, sun, moon, and other celestial objects could be seen - a clear sky more familiar to us. This was essential for seasons, calendars, and fixed objects in space (heavens). The presence of oxygen was needed for human life to develop. Shifting of the continents would play an important role when considering constellations for navigation, and this took place around 200 million years ago. On the fifth day, the living creatures, the ancestors to current life, were created in the sea and land. Genesis mentions the creation of birds as well. This occured 65 million years ago. Finally, on the sixth day, man was created as Adam – which has a two-fold meaning. 200,000 years ago modern humans began to develop (see Chapter 3).

Many believe Eden means 'walled garden', and some interpret this as Eden being located in a volcano. However, this was a subtle way of telling us about cavemen. Ignorance is bliss, and as long as humans remained in caves and nomadic we were doomed to live in this blissful ignorance (paradise). The "walled garden" relates to caves of cavemen who ate the apple and sustained themselves. Eating the apple is symbolic of humans learning how to live off the land, therefore being able to settle in one area. Now humans had time to ponder philosophy and eventually develop a civilization. The serpent being made to crawl on the ground and be crushed by humans is symbolic of dinosaurs evolving into the creatures of today (they lost size and mobility). Humans realized animals could live off the land so why not humans themselves? This is how the serpent told Eve to eat the apple.

The reason God (or knowledgeable huamns) related the history of creation and evolution to man in the manner He did in Genesis is because when communicating you must consider the audience. God was relating Genesis to a very simple people. To tell the outright truth would have confused humans entirely, and they wouldn't believe it. Now humans yearn for the truth. Too much fighting and suffering has taken place over the book of Genesis, fighting which was never meant to be.

Remember, science is only the beginning, and faith is the end. The two complement each other, connect together, and find complete understanding in the middle. You don't need to believe in a manifested, physical God. Just believe in an underlying logic and pattern in the universe. At least then you will be on the beginning to the path of humanity. To believe humans are the most advanced beings in existence is arrogant. Many atheists suffer from the same bad trappings as the religious extremists do – they focus too much on the messenger and not enough on the message. To do so destroys the point of religion and spirituality – to offer guidance in life – not to prove or disprove the existence of God.

If there were no God, as God being defined as the underlying workings of all existence, then we would cease to exist. So no matter how limited and basic and how barely our existence came to be – whether the universe is completely perfect or barely organized – there is an underlying logic and pattern to it. The notion that this underlying logic is merely subjective and all exists in the minds of man alone . . . is the apex of human arrogance.

To ask if this God deserves worship, first deserves the question of how does one define worship. The best form of worship is to emulate the object of worship. So God being that which brings order to chaos, that would be the best way to worship God, to bring order to chaos, which should always be the goal of religion.

If God is the underlying workings of the universe and man can understand those workings and even manipulate them, then isn't man superior to God is some aspect? This idea also shows great arrogance. Remember that science and knowledge are only beginnings and always leave more questions than answers. When we become prideful and content with our knowledge we fall behind. The clock of knowledge only started several thousand years ago and has only ticked a few times when it's destined to tick thousands of times. Remember one of the most important lessons of Socrates, "I am the wisest man alive, for I know one thing, and that is that I know nothing."
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Oh brother! I don't think it was an apple!
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For a short time, I'm back to answer questions you have. Bear in mind I can't answer certain questions such as naming names - those are instant red flags that will result in deletion of this thread.
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I think you're full of it. All you've done is copy and paste ramblings. Really, is there anything you know for a fact?


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