Elite Family Insider Returns for Q&A

I have asked one question: "How can a devil and a Creator love each other forever without hate between them?"

So, what are youtrying to say? They should lay off committing suicide bc eventually their mind will destroy their body?

When the soul has nothing more to look forward to than pain, grief, the desolation of despair it will annihilate the the ego and convince the mind to destroy the body to afford its' escape.

No, I don't think that's what I'm saying.
I think I'm saying that the desire to escape is inevitable
when the soul is dessolute.

I would actually challenge that with,

"When the mind has nothing more to look forward to than pain, grief, the desolation of despair it will empower the the ego and destroy the body to afford its' escape."

We are doing it every day. Get rid of the mind and you'll find peace and love within the soul.

It doesn't really matter if you interchange words if
death/escape/freedom is the desired and attained outcome.

According to what you are saying,is that a bad thing?

I'm not saying anything about mundane dualitys.

It does. It proves that the mind (ego) is responsible for these thoughts, not the soul. Big difference. The mind/ego is full of tricks to keep us enslaved.

Perhaps death is the opposite of enslavement.

Chris,
You stated earlier that you will have to reincarnate on a lower level next time around. Why, if you are here to serve in some capacity to help humanity? You also have all the known characteristics of someone on a "higher" level than most. Why would something make you backstep into what you termed "hell"?
Thank you

Here is your reading, I repost it - just added a couple more words. Do you have access toa Vedic program? If not, I will try to put up a picture of your vedic chart on photobucket.
"I am trying to concentrate on a few bits of information that may be new, deeper or ones that can help, from the Vedic system of thinking, without much technicality. The mere fact whether someone is elite or a commoner is rarely seen in Vedic charts, although one can see hints of a relationship with power – political or religious.
Terms: nakshatra: 27-28 lunar mansions, rasi is the basic chart, navamsha is the ninth harmonic chart.

Sun nakshatra as Ascendant (Krittika in Taurus) holds very great creative or destructive powers. (Krittika means blade, razor or cutting.) There is an energetic tie to your father – which means partly that you will have your complete energy pack for your life task when he dies. Your father is not with you and you do not have a good relationship – this is shown by the navamsha. Nevertheless, you will feel when he passes away. There is an ability or important piece of knowledge, science philosophy, or performance you had in a former life when it was not fully developed or recognized. Your father’s energy is a clue to that ability or knowledge. Also, this is not the first time he is your father. He has a shy nature, good intelligence, but there is something rough about him, and there is a sense of duplicity. May work with liquids or plumbing.
Gemini (Punarvasu) Mars shows a keen intellect, way above the average, especially in the verbal or logical world, a strong will to communicate. A twofold path to knowledge: first learning in a classical way, then learning in a deeper way, realizing a master level and teaching others. Classically, this would be an ideal setting for a psychologist, a writer, a teacher. Your teaching fundamentally serves others, coming out first time powerfully during the period between the end of 2010 and September 2011 when Saturn is in Hastha. This service to others – mainly in the form of a community – replaces the need to have children. This is very deep, with destructive elements playing a part – deepening the teaching and the service. (With Pluto and Saturn as well as the lord of the fifth house from the Moon in the fifth house from the ASC, I guess you would have no children, plus the seventh divisional chart shows the lord of the fifth – children among other things – in the house of loss and death. This is not one hundred percent though.) At another level, your father could be a reason why you will want no children in addition to important tasks of service and teaching.
Whatever you receive from the family is usually lost, and material possessions show marks etc. When something material truly becomes yours, it will have a scratch or a defect. This also marks a willingness to sacrifice material wealth for spiritual purposes. That works in reverse too, you will be able to live on your teaching or task.
Your main spiritual endeavor is to nudge people out of their accepted beliefs. This is more important than instilling new ones. You may also go through several spells of quitting a set of beliefs – mostly traditional belief systems appeal to you though. Ketu in the ninth also shows a keen sense of justice and injustice.
Neptune retrograde in Jyestha with the Moon shows a magician that was actively pursuing magic in several lives. One of those could be destroyed by magic and water – tsunami or the way Thera/Atlantis was. A selection of technologies as much as a deep comparison of belief systems goes with this, together with a strong ability to sense other people’s feelings or thoughts. Even specific trains of codes or magic may come from another life.
Anuradha Moon with Hastha Saturn shows someone who grows up among some family taboos, the first part of life determined very much by the parents’ fate, and last but not least, moving many times – as dictated by the needs or the work opportunities of the mother and later by your chosen path to service and teaching. It could be across continents as well. Anuradha is also a very pre-determined Moon, which is great because there is less chance for missing your life task which has to do primarily with other people through a massive amount of communication. Anuradha period is until you are 11 years and 11 months old, moving and not very comfortable, restricted by your mother’s life and her partner. Life is easier after that (Jyestha): much hidden knowledge pours in, there is much learning – some of the knowledge is pretty final (enlightenment level) on this planet. (However, some of the best traits you bring here could come from another more advanced civilization.) The mystical and more secluded, seven-year-old Mula period starts in July 2010 (and lasts until July 2017). This has something to do with seeing hidden things, the center of the Galaxy and a lot of transformation. A Hindu would say enlightenment is possible. When Mula is over, and Saturn has passed your Moon in transit (2014-16), you are ready to come out, however, you already know all the precise details of your task now as you have Saturn-Saturn transit.
A complete transformation of how you relate to the outside world took place by Summer 2004, Rahu in Jyestha fortifies this now (this summer) and brings you to uncover deep secrets. (I know this is what you have been doing here, however, it is neat that your Vedic chart shows – especially from June till October.)
A difficult but ultimately fruitful period is when Saturn will be in Anuradha, the nakshatra of your Moon, from December 2014 till the end of 2015. This could be hard for your mother or other female relative, it would be probably fatal for a relationship, could mean major moving such as going abroad, but it is very good from the POV of accomplishing your life task. The years after that (2016 January-October 2017) will bring out a lot of magic feats almost compulsorily (Saturn in Jyestha). You will have a great following among people who were born between 1988 and 1992 especially (Sagittarius Saturn, Neptune and Uranus, with Libra Pluto). These people are interested in total transformation of society’s deepest beliefs – the last time these planets were together like that was around the time the followers of Martin Luther started the Reformation. This is stretching farther though. Another type of person that may be very receptive to what you bring is Scorpio Pluto (in Vedic), between 93 and 2005, especially the last five years. These people want peace and are tired of worlds being destroyed by war and bad magic and bad technology. Uranus shows you are involved with a very deep renewal of ideas – a true Renaissance. Every thought is thoroughly tested out in real life experience and compared to other thoughts. Your enemies may have Mars-Pluto together so people born in certain months are not suitable to trust.
From the Navamsha, it is necessary to practice control over anger and similar emotions – a great key towards real powers. From what I read in these pages, you do that well, although Pluto opposite Mars now shows a great test and a lot of deeply challenging powers in these precise months – until the end of the year. It sometimes requires supreme control to handle the outside world – real people as well as spirits.
After Scorpio Saturn, it will be easier to have a good love relationship if you truly want that (though Uranus Neptune does not necessarily show a deeper need for this). This chart is not necessarily ascetic, although you may have a double approach with that: at times quite ascetic and emotional, while at times not very emotional but very sensual – mostly in your thoughts though. It is not easy to balance these out.
Your last life was probably short, a warrior – possibly in WW2, my tip would be England. Much destruction. However, you may have ties to Scotland, Himalayas and Japan. Moon shows Islamic lives too. Many times as a monk, a strong person who could sustain themselves alone. In fact, this could be another challenge for you in this life – how to really rely upon other people (who may not always be as independent or smart as you.) Holland, Indonesia are good places for you, and tribal cultures could be also supportive. It is difficult to be normal with a chart like this, luckily, that is not your task. The years leading up to your vision in 2003 could have been dangerous, as was a couple of more, from September 2009 I guess many things were easier and stabler. Since the end of 2005, there could be some fanatics and people with twofold divisions of worldview around you, as well as people possessed. However, your communicative powers are so highly developed that you can put up with this – more easily since openness has been a criterion.

OK, this is at first sight – I know you do not believe in timing as much as free will, and I try to respect that. I learned this system of thinking and this is what it says. There are many other details obviously, ask if you are interested in this Vedic POV. Also, what I write here may apply more to someone with an average karma.
I appreciate the work you do here, patiently, on over 200 pages, and it has been very engrossing for me to read it."

Mercury

Chris,
You stated earlier that you will have to reincarnate on a lower level next time around. Why, if you are here to serve in some capacity to help humanity? You also have all the known characteristics of someone on a "higher" level than most. Why would something make you backstep into what you termed "hell"?
Thank you

Could be, I don't know, never died, and don't remember between my past lives (if they are true). I doubt that is is, though, or it wouldn't be so obvious for out minds to "go there" intellectually. Not to mention that it is argued that even death is a creation of the mind. And heaven. If one can just "be", then we don't need any of those things, anyway. Including the mind. Just the soul / heart. Like, think of the best way you have ever felt in your life, and then try to think about what you were thinking - more likely you remember how you "felt" (really good). Or meditating on a loving feeling, and how the goal is to experience the places between the thoughts (mind). That sort of thing. It ain't a bad place to hang out.

I am going to take a chance and assume so you are Rob/White Zombie fan?

Not closely familiar with Rob Zombie but I could probably
relate to at least some of the lyrics I just searched.

If death is a creation of the mind than wouldn't life also be something of a mirror image?

If we could "just be" that would be very nice and if that is your experience than you are very fortunate.

Have you lost someone? Your curiosity about self anniliation seems unusual for your expressed mindset.

If in your meditation you are able to recreate that "loving feeling" than the answers to all your questions will be made manifest. Just ask.

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If death is a creation of the mind than wouldn't life also be something of a mirror image?

If we could "just be" that would be very nice and if that is your experience than you are very fortunate.

Have you lost someone? Your curiosity about self anniliation seems unusual for your expressed mindset.

If in your meditation you are able to recreate that "loving feeling" than the answers to all your questions will be made manifest. Just ask.

Ah, I just like some of his music, mostly from the style. Some kickass tuff, imo.


I believe that to be exactly right - if I understand what you're meaning. I think that our lives are a reflection of what is going on within us, both consciously and unconsciously. Then if we take the responsibility that everything in our life is of our own creation, then we can see that we have the power to change it, as well. An encouraging thought, imo. For example, when I first got married and was really having a great time in my life, everything just seemed to show up and be incredible without me doing much of anything. I think that things were being "attracted" into my life, for lack of a better word for it. I think the same goes for the inverse. Not exactly sure how it works, but that is just my experience and observation. And then, conversely, when I got divorced and I became negative, things got more shitty than I expected.



Not just me, it is possible to anybody. Meditation, many other ways (releasetechnique.com - I'm not affiliated, fyi, but it worked for me).


I think we've all lost people close to us, no? In some form or another. The self-annihilation I refer to comes from an experience of love, rather than despair. Although I know despair well, believe me. I think that the mind/ego serves to keep us separate from others and everything. I think that is the great "deception" if there ever was one. We are all connected. That link I provided earlier has helped me, but it isn't for everybody. It isn't religious or any other crazy shit like that. Just about love, is all, really. That's it. And realizing that we don't need love and approval from anyone else other than ourselves. I felt like "yeah whatever I dont need that" and I was right for awhile, but I checked it out cuz I thought my life could get better. And it has. But is really just a method in which to access love and approval from ourselves at any time. I didn't know it was really there so easy to access, but it is. That's really all I try to focus on these days. I've been through a lot, sure, but so many of us have. I believe it is why we're here. Maybe I'm wrong. Who knows. And I think that despite what we go through, or what we've been through, if we can help others and love despite it all, then somehow, I think we're maybe on the way to doing better than not. Just my opinion. Maybe I'll be dinner for the Anunnaki, I dunno, but it feels good to love rather than anything else.


To be honest, in the past I've tried meditating and other things, and they helped, but the thing that really blew the doors off was that release technique link. I don't want to sound like someone promoting anything so I'll stop, but it changed my life for the better. When I first experienced how I could give myself love and approval (masterbation jokes aside), and the way to do it, and feel it, I was sold. But you just have to get the ego/mind out of the way first.

I just took a quick look at release technique and it seems to be a form of meditation.

Maybe feeling love tastes like spoiled sourkruat to
Anunnaki?

Elites care not if they're exposed.

You the people don't want wars? Please! Well, you're right - you wouldn't even organize into war.

Said before: Elites left the wild west alone as an experiment and look what happened. Neon easter flowers and pink bunnies on unicycles, yes harmony and utopia is fun. Too many violent elements around for this.

[link to www.myspace.com]
Here you'll find love of helping.

You speak of love - love is stationary, does nothing,
I can 'love' & 'hope' 24/7, but HELP help is what people need.

And how DARE you second guess my asking for help w/ Gaddafi. Gaddafi? Seriously?! I'm all for turn the other cheek, but come on! It worked, after the ritual, the citizens stormed the capital at lightning speed.

Hey there professor darkness,

If there are so many "elite groups", then it would have surfaced once in a meaningful way over all this time where the whole story was shared no matter how "bad" it is to "fink" on your family. Someone, sometime, would have, and the jig would have been up. So I guess I'm calling for some proof.

Ah, the "greater good". That puts you with some horrifying company... Those that make those claims have fallen into a certain type of camp. Generally deluded sociopaths, or outright zealous murderers.

Are you one? My guess is you will say "sorta" and "i'm above right / wrong, good / bad, love / evil". If only to keep the gullible guessing and the rest of us rolling our eyes at the continued attempts at profundity and gravitas.

I guess the biggest trouble I have with what you say is that you are taking the classic "sacrifice the one for the many" approach. Why not start with your elite groups, then? We, the people, don't want wars. We, the people, don't want our friends and families to die. We, the people, don't want some zealots forcing an agenda on us. And if you can "see" something we can't, then share it. It is time we live in harmony, with more equality, more compassion, acceptance, trust, and love for our fellow man and woman. You should be the ones to set that example. Not starting WW3. It makes you sound like a group of juvenile self-serving bible-thumpers. Can't you see that?

So when you speak of things like war so lightly it bothers me that one so jaded should have so much power as you claim that your group apparently has. That doesn't give me hope, or allow me to respect you; it actually really worries me. Because of the many millions you are apparently ready to commit to death for a "messiah" or some other reason that our simple, plebeian minds could never fully comprehend...

You say you operate using negative energy. And there is one thing that your writings have a distinct lack of. That of love. For humanity, for people, for much of anything other than the "rituals" and ego, apparently. I think that about explains most of your motivations, intentions, and energy. Likely even where you are headed. I can't believe you would actually ask people on here to direct "negative energy" at someone or something...

Do you have a loving relationship in your life? After all, you do work only with negative energy, ya? That is a sad future for our kind, imo. That is no "eilte" of mine.

And here's where I play "devil's" advocate, pardon the pun, no offense, no implication intended, fine sir:
- You're really wanting to help us. You're here to let us know there is 'more', not to serve your ego. You are tying to help us understand that 'more' isn't clean cut "good or bad", but is for the "continuation of the species", or something. Well, thanks, I guess.

I do wish you all the best, if nothing else to gain some peace and to be able to feel some love for yourself and those around you.

Ultimately, we can only really be our own judges. Given enough time.... Right?