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Yo, why Ukraine and Russia?

You want Israel vs Turkey + Africa in ww3, don't you?

Where does Russia come into play here? Why?
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CP when does a baby's soul come into the uterus?
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Son of a bitch, I may have found the missing ingredient for Assad. Try for ousting May 1 - June 21 IF Obama gets off his ass and plays ball.



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Assad remains. Too much military and spiritual protection around Assad.
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you are still pissing in the wind my friend

not being smug ( am being smug) but I told you last year it wasn't going to happen

and not because of your appropriate self doubt mucking up your workings - although that has significance in the grand scheme of things for you :)
it's just because the energy changed and no longer supports the workings of your system

'old outdated system' I think I said -not smugly

there was shock to the system and it changed - just like that -cosmically speaking - and it's ripples are manifesting slowly into linear time and the changes they deliver will manifest along with them

you've been tinkering in the wrong dimension if you were looking to affect substantial change

top down is the way to go , not bottom up

but how does one swim/clamber/fight to the top ? you say

by letting go and falling, says I

happy landings team ,

jump or push ? as ever, your choice
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I’m slammed w/ chemtrail questions. Red herring! Contrail does not equal chemtrail. Eyeballing the sky for chemicals already in you, well… DING DING DING! We have a sucker! Chemtrails are rarely used in the West, but here’s an example. A conservative must be elected, and traditional societal controls fail in swinging the vote. Before Election Day a plane flies over a battleground state’s liberal area, dispersing an apathy-inducing chemical. Liberal voters fail to show up in droves, and the conservative wins. It’s VERY rarely used.

Cough medicine bottles w/ “666” are on many pharmacy aisles. Can you find outrage, questioning, and legislation to remove this? Only intentional misinformation would spawn a movement claiming all manmade clouds are evil while the hunted – 666 – proudly stands. Drugs control you. Caffeine, nicotine, opium, alcohol, quinine, DXM, LSD, PCP, pot. Nixon genuinely tried to lessen the grip w/ his failed War on Drugs, and look what happened to him. The Watchers distract your eyes to the sky while inside you slip chemical spies. I’m not saying change or stop it, just enjoy the ride!
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My little town, Pikeville, made Godlike news on the left "News" column "Tennessee City Officials Pass Ordinance Making Wearing Baggy Pants Illegal". Never thought I'd see Pikeville there. =P
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Didn't you say that after 9/11 chemtrails over NY contained anti depressants or a feel good chemical? And did you talk about orange goo found on the ground somewhere in oregon or somewhere?
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I’m slammed w/ chemtrail questions. Red herring! Contrail does not equal chemtrail. Eyeballing the sky for chemicals already in you, well… DING DING DING! We have a sucker! Chemtrails are rarely used in the West, but here’s an example. A conservative must be elected, and traditional societal controls fail in swinging the vote. Before Election Day a plane flies over a battleground state’s liberal area, dispersing an apathy-inducing chemical. Liberal voters fail to show up in droves, and the conservative wins. It’s VERY rarely used.

Cough medicine bottles w/ “666” are on many pharmacy aisles. Can you find outrage, questioning, and legislation to remove this? Only intentional misinformation would spawn a movement claiming all manmade clouds are evil while the hunted – 666 – proudly stands. Drugs control you. Caffeine, nicotine, opium, alcohol, quinine, DXM, LSD, PCP, pot. Nixon genuinely tried to lessen the grip w/ his failed War on Drugs, and look what happened to him. The Watchers distract your eyes to the sky while inside you slip chemical spies. I’m not saying change or stop it, just enjoy the ride!
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This post...right here....is prof that you're either a disinfo, a shill, or a misguided troubled soul who likes to confuse people. Perhaps all the above?

Not all chemicals need to be ingested to be effective. Some need to be topical, some aerosol for inhalation, some injected directly into the body or veins. You can ingest some chemicals and have no affects. But inhaling them, and your cardiopulmonary system is attacked.

So to imply that all the chemicals necessary to subdue the public are only in food and water is misleading.

Then, you say the disinfo campaign of chemtrails is to deflect attention away from your favorite 666 cough syrup. But gee, not everyone is bombarded with cough syrup in their food, air and water. Why would the public demand action to remove the cough syrup from the markets?

Last time I checked, people have the free will (regardless if programmed or brainwashed) to take drugs, caffeine, nicotine, cough syrup.

But water, air and food...all contaminated. No way around the toxins and poisons they added to the basic necessities of life.

I'm sure people can see through your confusion and misguidance. But then again, I saw through it in the beginning.

Back when you claimed to be the Crowley moon child. Lol
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whats going on????
nothing going right for the satanists???
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I've passed up chances to mingle w/ local upper class, but if you're talking about Bilderberg wealth then no. Excessive wealth mixes w/ spirituality like government mixes w/ religion... volatile. Keep them separated.

Christopher, have you ever been invited to any social gatherings held by the elites, or are you just a lone ranger out there in Pikeville? Just curious.

I was atop Hinch Mtn late last night
When my eyes beheld an eerie sight
For Odin from this body trap began to rise
And suddenly to my surprise
He did the mash
He did the e-lite mash
It was a stock market crash
Your credit went to trash
He did the mash
He did the elite mash

For my 30th b-day from wisemen out east
To Wall St. where the Zionists feast
The elites came out from their underground abodes
To catch a jolt from the solar flare electrodes
The Orsinis were having fun
The party had just begun
The guests included Bourbon
Wettin and his son

The ritual was rockin', all were digging the sounds
Zogu on chains, backed by his bayin hounds
The Globalists were about to arrive
W/ their vocal group the Prince Harry Five
They played the mash
They played the elite mash
And it was a stock market crash
The elite mash

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What is connected to depends on the person and drug. Some ppl can smoke pot and connect w/ paranoid violent behavior while others mellow out.

One thing is true, pharmakeia attract different spirits. I never tried opium - I am allergic to it - but I read opium writers compulsively. Opium contributed to the sudden decline of the Turkish Empire which owned the Eastern half of Europe for a while. That, and the new custom of inherited lands finished the Empire off.
My favorite was mari-J for a while, but serious psychedelics attracted me. They were taking me to a different dimension vertically. Mushroom spirits came back even years after taking them, in dreams.
Caffeine is a daily for me, but when I overdo it I tend to have negative views on everything.
These days my favorite is simply OBE which I achieve by reciting complicated Shaivite mantras then sleeping awake... Nothing can compare to those healing energy flashes, and there are meaningful visions as well as anything you might want to discover... I honestly think dreaming is one of the most important tasks of mankind. And few have the gift to explore it.
MJ in my opinion just clouds senses in the long run, and destroys short-term memory, but it is most useful for young people who are cut away from their bodies and sensing the Earth.
Cocaine is frightful. I tried it a few times in my youth and I had the notion that it brought out the worst in people - a Satanic sort of self-satisfaction, a sense that you are better than the average, with an urgency to rule others or to show off.
One of the most interesting materials I ever tried was Salvia Divinorum. Totally different from the others... sane and attuned to the Earth as well as mundane things. No odd visions, but your thoughts are like answered every time by familiar voices... in a chorus...
Peyote turned me into a modern art lover. I saw thousands of imaginative abstract paintings in one single session.
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1. Eventually I will, but I won't dwell deep into it.

2, 3, 4. I'll discuss all these.


Hi Christopher,

very interesting Spiritual Declarations, thank you.

1. I wonder, are you going to incude there information about Odin (Loki, Thor, etc.) and all of the nothern Eurasia (Van) tradition, including Runic abstract energy symbols?

2. You said that Voodoo tradition is the oldest, are you going to describe it in Spiritual Declarations?

3. Are you going to include Paganism and Shamanism in your Declarations? Will it be included into your new Religion?

4. Are you going to mention the times after CB (for example, Alexander the Great and his role given him by elites).

Best regards.


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Some buddhists believe 49 days after conception, and this correlates to formation of the pineal gland. However, your question needs long discussion we'll do later. It requires defining what a "soul" is.

CP when does a baby's soul come into the uterus?
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I doubt it'll happen. I had been focusing on energy for the rebels like w/ Gaddafi. Far too much energy wasted since the odds greatly favor Assad. Different plan: 1 person close to him, 1 bullet or bomb. That's all it takes to topple Assad. Still unlikely so you might be right in calling it won't happen.

Syria's threat to Israel is neutralized. The options for Syria were install an anti-Zionist government willing to war w/ Israel or remove it from the scenario. Syria is removed from the board. It poses little threat to Israel.

Looking at things I believe the board is getting close to completion. All it needs is the next American leader....


Son of a bitch, I may have found the missing ingredient for Assad. Try for ousting May 1 - June 21 IF Obama gets off his ass and plays ball.



Thread: Elite Family Insider Returns for Q&A (Page 282)
Assad remains. Too much military and spiritual protection around Assad.
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you are still pissing in the wind my friend

not being smug ( am being smug) but I told you last year it wasn't going to happen

and not because of your appropriate self doubt mucking up your workings - although that has significance in the grand scheme of things for you :)
it's just because the energy changed and no longer supports the workings of your system

'old outdated system' I think I said -not smugly

there was shock to the system and it changed - just like that -cosmically speaking - and it's ripples are manifesting slowly into linear time and the changes they deliver will manifest along with them

you've been tinkering in the wrong dimension if you were looking to affect substantial change

top down is the way to go , not bottom up

but how does one swim/clamber/fight to the top ? you say

by letting go and falling, says I

happy landings team ,

jump or push ? as ever, your choice
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It's still rarely used.


Didn't you say that after 9/11 chemtrails over NY contained anti depressants or a feel good chemical? And did you talk about orange goo found on the ground somewhere in oregon or somewhere?
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I never implied all chemicals necessary to subdue the public are only in the food and drinking water. Never even mentioned food and drinking water. Drugs connect you to supernatural entities. Yes, you can avoid caffeine, nicotine, opium, and all drugs but few ppl do. Some poor ppl have no regular access to these drugs, and that's why chemicals via vaccination and chemtrailing - what Americans think they're exposed to - are used in poor areas like Africa more often than rich areas like America and Europe.

Why would people demand cough syrup be removed from markets? Google image search "666 cough medicine". 666 is on the box, and it's proudly displayed across many pharmacies. No fucks are given about this? Isn't that odd? What if Obamacare funded an abortion pill named "Whore of Babylon"? What if a news anchor signed off w/, "Goodnight America, and hail Satan!"? The world would catch on fucking fire wouldn't it?

I’m slammed w/ chemtrail questions. Red herring! Contrail does not equal chemtrail. Eyeballing the sky for chemicals already in you, well… DING DING DING! We have a sucker! Chemtrails are rarely used in the West, but here’s an example. A conservative must be elected, and traditional societal controls fail in swinging the vote. Before Election Day a plane flies over a battleground state’s liberal area, dispersing an apathy-inducing chemical. Liberal voters fail to show up in droves, and the conservative wins. It’s VERY rarely used.

Cough medicine bottles w/ “666” are on many pharmacy aisles. Can you find outrage, questioning, and legislation to remove this? Only intentional misinformation would spawn a movement claiming all manmade clouds are evil while the hunted – 666 – proudly stands. Drugs control you. Caffeine, nicotine, opium, alcohol, quinine, DXM, LSD, PCP, pot. Nixon genuinely tried to lessen the grip w/ his failed War on Drugs, and look what happened to him. The Watchers distract your eyes to the sky while inside you slip chemical spies. I’m not saying change or stop it, just enjoy the ride!
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This post...right here....is prof that you're either a disinfo, a shill, or a misguided troubled soul who likes to confuse people. Perhaps all the above?

Not all chemicals need to be ingested to be effective. Some need to be topical, some aerosol for inhalation, some injected directly into the body or veins. You can ingest some chemicals and have no affects. But inhaling them, and your cardiopulmonary system is attacked.

So to imply that all the chemicals necessary to subdue the public are only in food and water is misleading.

Then, you say the disinfo campaign of chemtrails is to deflect attention away from your favorite 666 cough syrup. But gee, not everyone is bombarded with cough syrup in their food, air and water. Why would the public demand action to remove the cough syrup from the markets?

Last time I checked, people have the free will (regardless if programmed or brainwashed) to take drugs, caffeine, nicotine, cough syrup.

But water, air and food...all contaminated. No way around the toxins and poisons they added to the basic necessities of life.

I'm sure people can see through your confusion and misguidance. But then again, I saw through it in the beginning.

Back when you claimed to be the Crowley moon child. Lol
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About the 666 cough syrup, doesn't every single barcode say 666? Are you astounded by the name of it or by the ingredients?

Ingredients:
Acetaminophen 650mg,
Dextromethorphen HBr 20 mg,
Phenylephrine HCI 10mg

Is Dextromethorphen what you talk about, DMX? The stuff that lifts the veil to darker/lower dimensions?

I'd like to hear more about this stuff. Do you use it?
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It's the saud's who need to watch their back tbh

the foul energy they have created has gone full circle and is spiralling towards them , gathering pace
and it isn't pretty but is truly awesomely powerful

I'd start trying to disentangle myself there but shit sticks I'm afraid
and those most grubby will draw that power to them

and that's unavoidable



Hilary in the white house - lol-
snot happening
snot ever

bill and ben(ghazi) :) can't fight those odds






I doubt it'll happen. I had been focusing on energy for the rebels like w/ Gaddafi. Far too much energy wasted since the odds greatly favor Assad. Different plan: 1 person close to him, 1 bullet or bomb. That's all it takes to topple Assad. Still unlikely so you might be right in calling it won't happen.

Syria's threat to Israel is neutralized. The options for Syria were install an anti-Zionist government willing to war w/ Israel or remove it from the scenario. Syria is removed from the board. It poses little threat to Israel.

Looking at things I believe the board is getting close to completion. All it needs is the next American leader....


Son of a bitch, I may have found the missing ingredient for Assad. Try for ousting May 1 - June 21 IF Obama gets off his ass and plays ball.



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Assad remains. Too much military and spiritual protection around Assad.
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you are still pissing in the wind my friend

not being smug ( am being smug) but I told you last year it wasn't going to happen

and not because of your appropriate self doubt mucking up your workings - although that has significance in the grand scheme of things for you :)
it's just because the energy changed and no longer supports the workings of your system

'old outdated system' I think I said -not smugly

there was shock to the system and it changed - just like that -cosmically speaking - and it's ripples are manifesting slowly into linear time and the changes they deliver will manifest along with them

you've been tinkering in the wrong dimension if you were looking to affect substantial change

top down is the way to go , not bottom up

but how does one swim/clamber/fight to the top ? you say

by letting go and falling, says I

happy landings team ,

jump or push ? as ever, your choice
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I have a cop story. Last week parked the car in the middle of nowhere early on sunday morning the place was deserted, to recycle some paper. Soon as our backs were turned, two pigs standing there writing a parking ticket. I run back apologising, thinking I could charm our way out if a ridicilous fine. Pig says we endangered others and it's immoral and all that shit like I killed a kitten. I tell bf we gonna get a parking fine. Bf protests, raises voice like are you kidding, gets a second fine for wantonness. I calm boy down. Boy mutters something about fascism. Pigs say they can fine us 600 euro (thats about 600 dollars) for using the word fascism and we should thank them for not fining us for that. Cunts. If I fought one of those shits after vandalising like you did I wld probably rot in jail for a few months. I am amazed you got off so lightly.
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How the hell did you not get arrested? Trespassing, breaking and entering, destruction of private property and resisting arrest and they didn't book you? Did you perform some kind of magick to get out of that? Did you call Saul Goodman?


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If you're one of my haters, then you'll love this. I broke someone's window and burned their Confederate flag. One cop showed up, I fought him, then fought 4 or 5 cops, got tasered, and went to the hospital until I calmed down. Amazingly, I didn't get arrested. Got this nice shiner on the eye and about 70 cuts and bruises all over. The moral is don't fight the cops, they always win and w/ excessive force. That was highlight of my week. What's everyone else been up to? =P
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Yeah, how'd you get out of a cop fight?

Also is the mad cow scare you mentioned earlier starting? [link to www.cnn.com]
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was the elliot rodger thing entirely fake? i saw many pictures that didn't add up at all, the best one was a couple of wall mart workers mopping up blood in front of a perfectly displayed row of chips. some of the witnesses I saw seemed completely fake. what do you think?
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whats going on in iraq????
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For a short time, I'm back to answer questions you have. Bear in mind I can't answer certain questions such as naming names - those are instant red flags that will result in deletion of this thread.
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Prince Harry paid a visit to Esztergom...
Surely because it is the single cmall city with the densest negative spirits for several hundred miles around...
I wonder if he took some DXM at the hotel room and in a hinch he'd designate us the future World Capital of Darkness...
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Aside from Michael Jackson and Aleister Crowley, are there any other interesting elite defectors you can name? Any interesting rebel elite shenanigans like the Mongol empire you haven't mentioned?

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Just setting up a government willing to attack Israel. The current government is deemed unwilling. Funny that Americans let Obama get away w/ this.

whats going on in iraq????
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Noriega stopped giving the American government a cut of the drug money - that's a no no. Gaddafi was gonna start Africa's currency to rival other nations, a currency outside elite influence.

Aside from Michael Jackson and Aleister Crowley, are there any other interesting elite defectors you can name? Any interesting rebel elite shenanigans like the Mongol empire you haven't mentioned?
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I had to make a new account. My other account was completely deleted.
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Our Spiritual Declaration: Plato

Chapter 33: Plato


1. Plato is born 428 BC, Greece, and he goes on to become one of the most influential figures in shaping modern thought. The following is key philosophical points from his works.

Plato’s Cave
2. Imagine lifelong prisoners deep inside a cave. Chained to the wall by their feet and necks, darkness surrounds the captives. A fire is kept burning behind them, and men with cutouts of animals and other objects move the cutouts in front of the fire, casting shadows on the cave wall. Interpreting this as reality, the prisoners name the shadows. One day a prisoner is released from his chains and shown the fire and cutouts. He recoils in horror and begs to be put back on the wall. The guards tell him the fire and cave is also something of an illusion. They drag the prisoner outside to view the sun and landscape, then he’s pulled back in and chained to the wall. He tells the story to other prisoners who think he's gone crazy, and the prisoners believe anyone who unchains himself turns insane. The cave represents our everyday vision – things we see, everything is hazy and confusing. Outside of the cave represents the world of ideas. Once a person has experienced the world of ideas he can never go back just as the prisoner doesn’t want chained once again. Freedom from bondage of material illusions causes isolation and depression from mainstream society.

General Concepts
3. A main concern for everyone is taking care of themselves. When considering what the "self" is we realize it's our soul. Therefore, a main concern is taking care of our soul; because only then can we properly care for others. Those who take care of their soul are the virtuous, and only the virtuous should rule over others (self-improvement before leadership).

4. A soul is trapped in the body like a horse in a barn. When a horse leaves the barn is better decided by the farmer. Suicide is deciding when the soul leaves the body, akin to the horse deciding when to leave the barn. Only the farmer (God) owns the horse (soul) and knows the right time in taking the horse to pasture (afterlife).

5. What is piety? "Is the pious loved by the gods because it is pious, or is it pious because it is loved by the gods?" Plato leaves many questions unanswered, as philosophical thought is an unfinished work in progress.

6. Better a victim of wrongdoing rather than the offender; because perpetrating a wrong is worse than being victimized by it. Punishment is better for the offender than going free; because proper punishment is more likely to cure a sin.

7. Courage arises from anger carrying out commands of reason. Self-discipline is found in everyone carrying out their duties. Wisdom exists when reason rules. Injustice occurs when these parts conflict.

8. Living on the glory of ancestors is meaningless; rather we should glorify life based on our own deeds.

9. When a tour guide takes the same route many times we trust the guide in knowing the right path. The guide tells an amateur the path. The amateur has truth of the path but not the knowledge. Direct knowledge of the path is known only by the guide. In this case, as in most cases, truth is just as useful as knowledge. The second-hand truth about the path may be forgotten over time. and the amateur leads others astray. In this parable the tour guide represents God and the path represents the correct way to live. The amateur is the average human, who can't possibly know the correct way to live, but God does, and He is the one who shows us the right path.

10. Thinkers live in the invisible world, neglecting body for the sake of mind. In the afterlife thinkers could happily enter this invisible world. Overly concerned with this world and things in it like money or other people or their own body, these people are reincarnated; because they don’t wish to leave the physical world. What is the main theme of your soul? The gluttonous reincarnate into pigs, the violent become wolves, the overly sociable become ants.

11. Offspring is a continuation of the parent’s life via children. Other citizens desire leaving behind ideas or a good reputation. In all these things what we seek is immortality.

12. No one is born virtuous. Virtue comes through yielding our appetites and anger to reason. Reason has no master and travels anywhere. Reason attached to the material world produces a clever criminal, or it ascends to the world of ideas, producing a scientist or philosopher.

Government & Society
13. Resources needed for maintaining excess luxury in society leads to war. War means a military must be raised. Raising a military entails creating a society fostering militaristic values. Accomplishing this requires the following: censoring literature to persuade people all is in order in the afterlife; citizens must obey authority; self-control is essential; professional theater is suppressed otherwise people believe they can switch between roles as actors do; music bolsters courage and aggression; strict dieting guidelines for a healthy body; and invalids are allowed to die.

14. A series of tests involving physical and mental manipulation and torture weeds out the weak and remaining strong citizens are appointed as city Guardians. Auxiliaries are appointed to assist Guardians. This is a meritocracy (status based on merit) rather than a democracy (status based on election), aristocracy (status based on wealth), or a monarchy (status based on ancestry). The wages of workers are monitored and not allowed to go too high or low. A maximum and minimum wage protects from excessive wealth and poverty. Internal dissent is stirred in neighboring states so they pose no threat. Education must discourage innovation or individuality, as this breaks apart a tight-knit society.

15. Plato compares this society to a soul. Appetite, reason, and anger compose the soul. Reasoning is comparable to the best-educated Guardians. Anger corresponds to Auxiliaries, as emotions are reasoning’s fuel. Appetite is the working class with unrefined passions. Guardians ruling, Auxiliaries assisting, and working class supplying the necessities of life completes our soul/society. Plato assumes the appetite (working class) will rebel. Then anger (Auxiliaries) reminds appetite that it's a subject not a ruler. Ruling appetite causes gluttony, drunkenness, and sex to rule. If anger controls it goes on raging vendettas. Reason is the only one of the three with self-restraint. However, a life with all reason and no emotion leads to death and society not worth living in, so reason leaves rooms for appetite and anger. Plato’s definition of anger is the spirit motivating us to do good and bad.

16. In Plato's ideal society, men and women are treated as equals, meaning they live together with inevitable sexual attraction. A yearly mating festival is designed with a rigged lottery in determining mating pairs (the mates with most desired qualities are paired together, hence the lottery's rigged). Infants are separated from parents and raised by the state. People beyond prime mating age (25-40) can have intercourse but only with contraceptives and an abortion if the need arises. Detachment of children from mothers causes adults to think of every child as their own.

17. Philosophers rule this society. From childhood to age 17 Guardian candidates study literature, music, and participate in athletics. Ages 17 to 20 solely focus on military training. At the age of 20, mathematics is learned for 10 years. Then investigation into dialect begins. After 5 years of training in dialects, the candidates rejoin military service and their character is examined for the next step, resuming dialect until reaching a pure idea of "good". Finally, these candidates organize the state and lives of people. These philosophers rule for a short time before being replaced in a rotation. Temporary service is important so ideas and visions stay fresh.

18. Plato figures greed sets in and a timocracy (honor is the guiding idea) develops. That degenerates into an oligarchy (rule by the rich or dominate), and economic classes divide then incite internal warfare. The divide between rich and poor grows larger until the numerous poor overthrows the few rich. A democracy (rule by all) is established to ensure equality. Individuality grows and every imaginable lifestyle flourishes. Discipline ceases to exist. With the choice of every lifestyle available, fads come and go. Living in the here-and-now, in the present, is viewed as happiness. In time a tyrant rises up. He gives relief to those in debt and redistributes land from rich to poor. This tyrant demands absolute power. When citizens protest he throws them into a war so they feel as if they need him. The tyrant executes any who shows opposition to him. Eventually only slaves are left. Talk about seeing into the future from over 2000 years ago! Has your nation fallen into the quicksand of greed? If so then the above is familiar.
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Our Spiritual Declaration

Chapter 1: Before Creation
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Chapter 2: Creation of Matter
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Chapter 3: Creation of Modern Humans
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Chapter 4: Noah
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Chapter 5: Abraham
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Chapter 6: The Tower of Babel; Sodom and Gomorrah
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Chapter 7: The Seeds of Hinduism
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Message to Atheists
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Chapter 8: Major Spiritual Issues (4000BC-1750BC)
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Chapter 9: Major Religious Issues 4000BC-1600BC
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Chapter 10: Creation Beliefs
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Chapter 11: Astrological Ages
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Chapter 12: Isaac to Joseph
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Chapter 13: Moses
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Chapter 14: I Ching
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Chapter 15: Major Biblical Issues For Modern Times
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Chapter 16: Joshua to Solomon
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Chapter 17: Zoroaster
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Chapter 18: Thales
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Chapter 19: Lao-Tzu and Taoism
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Chapter 20: Pythagoras
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Chapter 21: Upanishads
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Chapter 22: Buddha and Buddhism
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Chapter 23: Mahavira and Jainism
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Chapter 24: Confucius and Confucianism
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Chapter 25: The Art of War
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Chapter 26: Feng Shui
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Chapter 27: Palmistry (Palm Reading)
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Chapter 28: Herodotus and Philolaus
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Chapter 29: Socrates
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Chapter 30: Mohism
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Chapter 31: Aesop's Fables
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Chapter 32: Democritus, Hippocrates, Anaxagoras
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Chapter 33: Plato
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