I guess someone ELSE said that, not you.



Right, because growing up as slaves and serfs was true bliss. Having mom too busy trying to keep up the house, and grow food, and grind out the daily business of keeping up a house without all of the amenities that we have now, meant that the parents weren't 'detached'.

You don't know a thing about the past, it would seem. Do some studying about day to day life. It was HARD, and kids WORKED. And kids cared for kids, not moms. MOMS HAD WORK TO DO.

Work they didn't get paid for, but it was STILL WORK.



Right, NO BLAMING THERE.

People are "selfish" because of women's liberation. Women get some rights, and suddenly people are selfish. Because the wars of the past were NEVER about stealing other people's gold, enslaving people, or stealing people's land! NEVER!



Right. Because there was no huge, gaping DIVIDE between women and men when women were property. What the fuck kind of crack are you smoking?



Actually, a lot of women DO want to stay home. They just want to be APPRECIATED for it. However, guess who have given them the idea that the ONLY WORTHY CONTRIBUTION is MONEY?

Guess what, sweetheart. Not women's lib. MEN have given women the belief that the only worthy contribution and the only TRUE WORK is EARNING MONEY.

If you're honest in your search for why so few women are WILLING to stay home anymore, you'll find it there. Because women's work isn't VALUED BY MEN.

Some men are finally starting to realize the value of women's work, but only so far as it goes to whine about it.

If men had some idea what the actual VALUE of women's work was, and really valued it and tried to have an equal home even with a stay at home mom... then they would find they could find this kind of woman.

But men don't want to do the work of VALUING the woman's contribution, they just want to demonize women for wanting RIGHTS.



What self respect? Do you really think that being PROPERTY gave women SELF RESPECT? Do you really think that having to be either married or a wash-woman or a whore gave women SELF FUCKING RESPECT??

What the hell planet do you live on?



Really? Because frankly, from the woman's perspective, it's the other way around. MEN do themselves a disservice, AND do women a disservice, when all they want is a woman who's walking around with her tits hanging out.

You don't want to fix the social problems, you just want to go back to some imagined "good old days" when women had YOUR IDEA of 'self respect' which meant that they felt like they were worthless unless some man would buy them and fuck them and as a result, feed them.

Many women would LOVE to be stay at home mothers. But it's MEN who treat women like the ONLY things they have that's worth anything is their body or their ability to make money.

I cannot tell you the multitudes of women who not only work, but STILL must do the bulk of the home and child care. And why? Because men feel like they have gone out to work and earned money and as such, they are ENTITLED to then do nothing for the rest of the day... while the woman does the cooking, cleaning, and putting the children to bed-- after she has worked all day, also.

So get off of your high fucking horse.

Women didn't create this. Women's lib didn't create this.

Get this through your head, and get it through your head completely: WE ARE ALL STILL SLAVES.

Life is NOT WORSE NOW THAN BEFORE. Get it? NO WORSE... IT IS THE SAME. YOU ARE STILL A SLAVE.

Women are STILL SLAVES, and SO ARE MEN.

But sure, women really should wear burlap bags. Because wearing burlap bags is a sure sign of SELF RESPECT and a healthy self esteem.

And is, of course, the end of all of society's problems.

After all, magically ONLY AFTER women's lib, men SUDDENLY and MAGICALLY began to only value sex and money.

Yeah, right. Take a good look at history. That's BULLSHIT. Men have never valued anything about women anymore than they do now. SOME MEN have valued their women for more than that. SOME MEN value women for more than that now.

Just like SOME WOMEN value men for something besides their monetary value. But as a general rule, women look for power, not for the goodness of a man's heart or his capability as a father and partner.

WAKE UP, it's ON BOTH SIDES.



Who gives a shit? Why do we even CARE if a man cares about his appearance. OMG, IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD, A MAN WITH A MIRROR!!



And that is different HOW?? Women have ALWAYS been about SEX or for creating heirs. THIS IS NOT NEW.

Women are, historically speaking, A COMMODITY. Wake up and smell real life, buddy.

SO ARE YOU, the only difference is, women have been outright, obvious slaves for longer than men have (barring literal slaves in the most technical sense).

Stop trying to pretend this is new! Stop trying to pretend this was a brand new thing that happened as a result of the women's lib movement. It isn't! You're perpetuating a lie!

Women, historically, were bought and sold... for what? HEIRS. To have sex with, because you didn't get any sex if you didn't take on a wife. So you took some man's daughter off his hands, because she was useless to him and a detriment to you, until you managed to get enough brats fucked into her to do some useful work.

Or if you were rich, you did your transaction to purchase a noble bride, you fucked her til she gave you a boy, and in the meantime, you fucked your mistress for fun... and you paid her to be available for your every whim because SHE IS JUST A WOMAN, and THAT IS HER JOB.



You are wrong. Women are not weaker, except physically. You do not know what respect IS, since you think that OWNING A WOMAN IS RESPECTING HER.

You do not know what respect is, when you think that the answer to all of society's problems is to TAKE THE RIGHTS AWAY FROM THIS PERSON YOU CLAIM TO RESPECT.



Nobody respects ANYONE that they can walk all over. Men don't even respect a woman they can walk all over.

It is not a sign of respect to want to OWN SOMEONE. It is not a sign of respect to be demanding and overbearing because "you are weak and I demand your respect".



You get back to us when you understand the concepts of respect and love. Clearly, you don't right now. You think that having a heavy hand and demanding that a woman wear a burka or a highnecked coffin-dress is "respect".

I would tend to agree with you that women are over-sexualized. Unfortunately, your entire premise here is so fatally flawed that I doubt you mean anything close to dressing reasonably, and you want women to hide everything so they can prove they have "self respect". Which is pure bullshit.



Yeah. And guess what. THAT AIN'T NEW.

And it sure as FUCK didn't start with women's lib.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with you that you think that a people is not DIVIDED when HALF OF THEM OWN AND CONTROL THE OTHER HALF.

When half of the population is not free, and is PROPERTY of the other half, THERE IS DIVISION.



Oh, you're right. We're PROPERTY TO BE OWNED by our husband, according to you.

We should go back to the "good old days" when women were either prostitutes, or had no control whatsoever over their lives because it was be married or die/be in poverty/be a prostitute.

Yes, we should really listen to you, because you RESPECT us... provided that we hide ourselves entirely, grovel at the feet of a man, and do not ask for basic HUMAN RIGHTS.



That's good advice for both sexes.

Too bad it's buried in a "women ruined the world by having rights" diatribe.