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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373826 United Kingdom 05/07/2011 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like I said, I'm living proof it works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372939OP - let me ask you: Whats the difference between our blood being 'heated' by masturbation vs regular sex? Your statement "you tend to sweat a great deal from your scalp during sex" for me isnt true. In other words, it seems from what you are saying that one would actually have to give up BOTH masturbation AND sex to stop the process. I"m afraid that just aint gonna happen for most people. To simplify it: picture your hair follicle to work in the same way as a motherboard on a computer. The motherboard needs a fan constantly cooling it, otherwise it will over heat and burn out. The same applies for the follicle; it's sweat gland needs to be working efficiently, so it can release heat and cool the cell down or, that, too, will overheat and burn out (inflammation). Now imagine the motherboard was running at too high a voltage? It would burn out immediately despite the fan used to cool it. When DHT binds to follicles, the metabolism is raised to high and sooner or later it will overheat and inflame. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373870 United States 05/07/2011 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK I don't exactly know what's going on here, but I'd been studying hairloss for years, and there were all sorts of differing theories as to what causes it. I was reading about how the anti-hairloss drug Propecia prevents testosterone being converted into dihydrotestosterone -- the supposed hormone responsible for causing male pattern baldness. This hormone is also apparently related to the male sex drive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372939So I started to recall during my teens and onwards how high my sex drive was; I'd masturbate constantly, and that's when my hairline began to recede. So, I decided to give up masturbating to see if this would make any difference, and did this for several months, then, one day when I looked in the mirror, I noticed small blonde hairs starting to grow back! Over time these hairs became darker and thicker, then even more small blonde hairs started to grow back, and, again, they grew thicker and darker. I'm not entirely sure what's going on here, but here's a few theories which may explain how my hair is regrowing: 1) I discovered that cells cannot go through cell division when they are heated beyond 40C. Everytime we masturbate, the blood becomes super heated because of dihydrotesosterone. It is a very powerful metabolite, said to be 5 to 10 times more potent than testosterone. As you're probably aware, 30 to 40% of body heat is lost through the head via small sweat glands attached to the hair follicle. They are called eccrine glands. So each time we masturbate, this red hot DHT blood travels to the scalp, and inflames the follicle, and causes cell division to come to a stand still (because cell division cannot occur beyond 40C). The cell then begins to shrink. This may also explain why hairloss is accelerated during prolonged periods of stress, because stress hormones are metabolites, which causes a rapid increase in blood temperature, and, like masturbating, this red hot blood travels to the scalp and inflames the hair follicles. 2) Each time we masturbate, blood containing DHT, travels to the scalp, and gradually begins to clog up the capillaries connected to the hair follicle and it's components. The hair follicle has many components, such as the eccrine glands, erector pilli muscle, sebaceous gland, etc. Like I mentioned before, the eccrine glands are responsible for releasing body heat from the scalp. When these glands become clogged with DHT, they cannot effectively release body heat, so this heat becomes trapped within the follicle and inflames it. Have you noticed that each time you've been losing your hair, that you've felt a prickly heat sensation in your scalp? This is because heat cannot escape, and thus inflammation occurs, and consequently, hairloss. 3) Giving up masturbating, inhibits testosterone from being converted into DHT, and causes a rise in testosterone levels. Testosterone is responsible for protein synthesis, whereby it has an anabolic effect upon cells; the more tesosterone in the bloodstream, the more developed each cell of your body will be. So maybe extra testosterone assists in building stronger, healthier hair follicles? All I know is, not only is my hair regrowing, but I'm starting to become more masculine looking. My face and body muscles/ bone structure is noticably more defined, and my skin looks thicker and healthier than ever before. There are more factors involved in the causes of baldness, but I'm living proof that giving up masturbating/sex causes your hair to start to regrow! I'm going to continue doing this until my hairline is fully restored to it's original state. It's really "A Plain Shame" that you denied yourself this pleasure all these years...for no nothing, ts not true (snickers). Maybe you could've smeared your sperm on your head, lol. Seriously, though. How do you account for all the horny guys in the world that have a hell of a lot of hair? Or all the male animals of the world as well? I means if what you're saying would be true..then there would be alot of bald male animals too! Then you have to account for why some woman have baldness as well. Sorry, but it's a FAIL. Why, you had new growth could be anything really, as simplw as taking vitamins or dietary change where you received vitamins abd or minerals that you had been missing...resulting in the hair-loss. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 918548 United States 05/07/2011 09:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like I said, I'm living proof it works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372939OP - let me ask you: Whats the difference between our blood being 'heated' by masturbation vs regular sex? Your statement "you tend to sweat a great deal from your scalp during sex" for me isnt true. In other words, it seems from what you are saying that one would actually have to give up BOTH masturbation AND sex to stop the process. I"m afraid that just aint gonna happen for most people. To simplify it: picture your hair follicle to work in the same way as a motherboard on a computer. The motherboard needs a fan constantly cooling it, otherwise it will over heat and burn out. The same applies for the follicle; it's sweat gland needs to be working efficiently, so it can release heat and cool the cell down or, that, too, will overheat and burn out (inflammation). Now imagine the motherboard was running at too high a voltage? It would burn out immediately despite the fan used to cool it. When DHT binds to follicles, the metabolism is raised to high and sooner or later it will overheat and inflame. More utter bullshit... Stop the obfuscation, and answer the question... |
upstateny User ID: 750445 United States 05/07/2011 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like I said, I'm living proof it works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372939OP - let me ask you: Whats the difference between our blood being 'heated' by masturbation vs regular sex? Your statement "you tend to sweat a great deal from your scalp during sex" for me isnt true. In other words, it seems from what you are saying that one would actually have to give up BOTH masturbation AND sex to stop the process. I"m afraid that just aint gonna happen for most people. To simplify it: picture your hair follicle to work in the same way as a motherboard on a computer. The motherboard needs a fan constantly cooling it, otherwise it will over heat and burn out. The same applies for the follicle; it's sweat gland needs to be working efficiently, so it can release heat and cool the cell down or, that, too, will overheat and burn out (inflammation). Now imagine the motherboard was running at too high a voltage? It would burn out immediately despite the fan used to cool it. When DHT binds to follicles, the metabolism is raised to high and sooner or later it will overheat and inflame. PLEASE READ MY QUESTION .. you didnt answer it. You can always tell a SHILL by how many posts they make on things they don't believe in. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1372622 United Kingdom 05/07/2011 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like I said, I'm living proof it works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372939-wouldn't sex be the same as masturbation, in the sense of the bodies reaction? -do you have any pre/post masturbatory pictures? Zinc |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1146913 Germany 05/07/2011 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Dear OP, thanks a lot for your explanations. It makes great sense to me. But really how did you defeat your sex-drive? After a few days it gets overwhelming. What did you do to not succumb to masturbation ? Any tipps ? Is it only willpower ? Did you really not masturbate since months ? Not a single time ?? |
Zumarama User ID: 297291 Australia 05/07/2011 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK I don't exactly know what's going on here, but I'd been studying hairloss for years, and there were all sorts of differing theories as to what causes it. I was reading about how the anti-hairloss drug Propecia prevents testosterone being converted into dihydrotestosterone -- the supposed hormone responsible for causing male pattern baldness. This hormone is also apparently related to the male sex drive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372939So I started to recall during my teens and onwards how high my sex drive was; I'd masturbate constantly, and that's when my hairline began to recede. So, I decided to give up masturbating to see if this would make any difference, and did this for several months, then, one day when I looked in the mirror, I noticed small blonde hairs starting to grow back! Over time these hairs became darker and thicker, then even more small blonde hairs started to grow back, and, again, they grew thicker and darker. I'm not entirely sure what's going on here, but here's a few theories which may explain how my hair is regrowing: 1) I discovered that cells cannot go through cell division when they are heated beyond 40C. Everytime we masturbate, the blood becomes super heated because of dihydrotesosterone. It is a very powerful metabolite, said to be 5 to 10 times more potent than testosterone. As you're probably aware, 30 to 40% of body heat is lost through the head via small sweat glands attached to the hair follicle. They are called eccrine glands. So each time we masturbate, this red hot DHT blood travels to the scalp, and inflames the follicle, and causes cell division to come to a stand still (because cell division cannot occur beyond 40C). The cell then begins to shrink. This may also explain why hairloss is accelerated during prolonged periods of stress, because stress hormones are metabolites, which causes a rapid increase in blood temperature, and, like masturbating, this red hot blood travels to the scalp and inflames the hair follicles. 2) Each time we masturbate, blood containing DHT, travels to the scalp, and gradually begins to clog up the capillaries connected to the hair follicle and it's components. The hair follicle has many components, such as the eccrine glands, erector pilli muscle, sebaceous gland, etc. Like I mentioned before, the eccrine glands are responsible for releasing body heat from the scalp. When these glands become clogged with DHT, they cannot effectively release body heat, so this heat becomes trapped within the follicle and inflames it. Have you noticed that each time you've been losing your hair, that you've felt a prickly heat sensation in your scalp? This is because heat cannot escape, and thus inflammation occurs, and consequently, hairloss. 3) Giving up masturbating, inhibits testosterone from being converted into DHT, and causes a rise in testosterone levels. Testosterone is responsible for protein synthesis, whereby it has an anabolic effect upon cells; the more tesosterone in the bloodstream, the more developed each cell of your body will be. So maybe extra testosterone assists in building stronger, healthier hair follicles? All I know is, not only is my hair regrowing, but I'm starting to become more masculine looking. My face and body muscles/ bone structure is noticably more defined, and my skin looks thicker and healthier than ever before. There are more factors involved in the causes of baldness, but I'm living proof that giving up masturbating/sex causes your hair to start to regrow! I'm going to continue doing this until my hairline is fully restored to it's original state. Yes...but this doesn't explain you going blind! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373766 United States 05/07/2011 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have a girlfriend, we have healthy sex life, depending on your definition of healthy. I still yank my crank when I have the chance ( at least once a day, probably going to after this post, as my female is still asleep and quite frankly.. I need me time ). I have very thick hair, 33 and showing no signs of balding..... Going bald is a gene issue, not a meat mashing issue. Mash your meat, consider it training for the hoe-lympics. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373826 United Kingdom 05/07/2011 09:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK I don't exactly know what's going on here, but I'd been studying hairloss for years, and there were all sorts of differing theories as to what causes it. I was reading about how the anti-hairloss drug Propecia prevents testosterone being converted into dihydrotestosterone -- the supposed hormone responsible for causing male pattern baldness. This hormone is also apparently related to the male sex drive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372939So I started to recall during my teens and onwards how high my sex drive was; I'd masturbate constantly, and that's when my hairline began to recede. So, I decided to give up masturbating to see if this would make any difference, and did this for several months, then, one day when I looked in the mirror, I noticed small blonde hairs starting to grow back! Over time these hairs became darker and thicker, then even more small blonde hairs started to grow back, and, again, they grew thicker and darker. I'm not entirely sure what's going on here, but here's a few theories which may explain how my hair is regrowing: 1) I discovered that cells cannot go through cell division when they are heated beyond 40C. Everytime we masturbate, the blood becomes super heated because of dihydrotesosterone. It is a very powerful metabolite, said to be 5 to 10 times more potent than testosterone. As you're probably aware, 30 to 40% of body heat is lost through the head via small sweat glands attached to the hair follicle. They are called eccrine glands. So each time we masturbate, this red hot DHT blood travels to the scalp, and inflames the follicle, and causes cell division to come to a stand still (because cell division cannot occur beyond 40C). The cell then begins to shrink. This may also explain why hairloss is accelerated during prolonged periods of stress, because stress hormones are metabolites, which causes a rapid increase in blood temperature, and, like masturbating, this red hot blood travels to the scalp and inflames the hair follicles. 2) Each time we masturbate, blood containing DHT, travels to the scalp, and gradually begins to clog up the capillaries connected to the hair follicle and it's components. The hair follicle has many components, such as the eccrine glands, erector pilli muscle, sebaceous gland, etc. Like I mentioned before, the eccrine glands are responsible for releasing body heat from the scalp. When these glands become clogged with DHT, they cannot effectively release body heat, so this heat becomes trapped within the follicle and inflames it. Have you noticed that each time you've been losing your hair, that you've felt a prickly heat sensation in your scalp? This is because heat cannot escape, and thus inflammation occurs, and consequently, hairloss. 3) Giving up masturbating, inhibits testosterone from being converted into DHT, and causes a rise in testosterone levels. Testosterone is responsible for protein synthesis, whereby it has an anabolic effect upon cells; the more tesosterone in the bloodstream, the more developed each cell of your body will be. So maybe extra testosterone assists in building stronger, healthier hair follicles? All I know is, not only is my hair regrowing, but I'm starting to become more masculine looking. My face and body muscles/ bone structure is noticably more defined, and my skin looks thicker and healthier than ever before. There are more factors involved in the causes of baldness, but I'm living proof that giving up masturbating/sex causes your hair to start to regrow! I'm going to continue doing this until my hairline is fully restored to it's original state. It's really "A Plain Shame" that you denied yourself this pleasure all these years...for no nothing, ts not true (snickers). Maybe you could've smeared your sperm on your head, lol. Seriously, though. How do you account for all the horny guys in the world that have a hell of a lot of hair? Or all the male animals of the world as well? I means if what you're saying would be true..then there would be alot of bald male animals too! Then you have to account for why some woman have baldness as well. Sorry, but it's a FAIL. Why, you had new growth could be anything really, as simplw as taking vitamins or dietary change where you received vitamins abd or minerals that you had been missing...resulting in the hair-loss. Nope, sorry, but I've taken vitamins and minerals over the years, and they did nothing to promote hair growth. when I stopped masturbating for months, my hair began to regrow. You missed the point again; in SOME men, they have more DHT receptors within their follicles, than men who are NOT genetically predisposed to pattern baldness. So... the former category are susceptible to baldness when DHT levels are elevated in the bloodstream (hence through too much masturbating), whereas the latter category can masturbate as often as they want, and they will not go bald because their follicles contain little or no DHT recpetors. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1180896 France 05/07/2011 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm 23 and I also know this to be true, not scientifically but being spiritually sensitive I felt the excessive masturbation being linked to this and when I stop for certain periods the hair grows back. bless thanks for the scientific research, for me it made sense right away but was never able to find information on the web about it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1323315 South Korea 05/07/2011 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like I said, I'm living proof it works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372939OP - let me ask you: Whats the difference between our blood being 'heated' by masturbation vs regular sex? In other words, it seems from what you are saying that one would actually have to give up BOTH masturbation AND sex to stop the process. I"m afraid that just aint gonna happen for most people. Sex is more of a physical activity than masturbating, meaning that when you have sex you are more likely to sweat a great deal, thus body heat from the scalp is released, and the scalp cools down. Whereas with masturbation (in my case anyway) I don't sweat, my blood temperature just increases and travels to the scalp, and inflames the follicles. ETA: next time you masturbate, pay attention to how your temples feel, and you will notice that they become really hot. this is because of hot Dht blood dispersing from the temporalis arteries, which supply blood to the hairline. Just take notice of how hot your temples get, and let this be a barometer of how you start losing your hair. I reiterate again: cells cannot thrive when exposed to temperatures beyond 40C. That's why we sweat so that the detrimental effects of body heat can be released, and we can cool down. When we don't sweat, heat becomes trapped, and inflammation occurs. inflammation=big things, right? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1330309 Norway 05/07/2011 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So were do I fit into this? I like sexy girls, and they like me like, but in like 4-9 times week. I had to do it myself minimum 1-2 times everydaty since I was able too. My hair is wild, and a shit to keep trimmed, I should be bald like pretty girls ass if to follow your mastermind. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373870 United States 05/07/2011 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OK I don't exactly know what's going on here, but I'd been studying hairloss for years, and there were all sorts of differing theories as to what causes it. I was reading about how the anti-hairloss drug Propecia prevents testosterone being converted into dihydrotestosterone -- the supposed hormone responsible for causing male pattern baldness. This hormone is also apparently related to the male sex drive. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372939So I started to recall during my teens and onwards how high my sex drive was; I'd masturbate constantly, and that's when my hairline began to recede. So, I decided to give up masturbating to see if this would make any difference, and did this for several months, then, one day when I looked in the mirror, I noticed small blonde hairs starting to grow back! Over time these hairs became darker and thicker, then even more small blonde hairs started to grow back, and, again, they grew thicker and darker. I'm not entirely sure what's going on here, but here's a few theories which may explain how my hair is regrowing: 1) I discovered that cells cannot go through cell division when they are heated beyond 40C. Everytime we masturbate, the blood becomes super heated because of dihydrotesosterone. It is a very powerful metabolite, said to be 5 to 10 times more potent than testosterone. As you're probably aware, 30 to 40% of body heat is lost through the head via small sweat glands attached to the hair follicle. They are called eccrine glands. So each time we masturbate, this red hot DHT blood travels to the scalp, and inflames the follicle, and causes cell division to come to a stand still (because cell division cannot occur beyond 40C). The cell then begins to shrink. This may also explain why hairloss is accelerated during prolonged periods of stress, because stress hormones are metabolites, which causes a rapid increase in blood temperature, and, like masturbating, this red hot blood travels to the scalp and inflames the hair follicles. 2) Each time we masturbate, blood containing DHT, travels to the scalp, and gradually begins to clog up the capillaries connected to the hair follicle and it's components. The hair follicle has many components, such as the eccrine glands, erector pilli muscle, sebaceous gland, etc. Like I mentioned before, the eccrine glands are responsible for releasing body heat from the scalp. When these glands become clogged with DHT, they cannot effectively release body heat, so this heat becomes trapped within the follicle and inflames it. Have you noticed that each time you've been losing your hair, that you've felt a prickly heat sensation in your scalp? This is because heat cannot escape, and thus inflammation occurs, and consequently, hairloss. 3) Giving up masturbating, inhibits testosterone from being converted into DHT, and causes a rise in testosterone levels. Testosterone is responsible for protein synthesis, whereby it has an anabolic effect upon cells; the more tesosterone in the bloodstream, the more developed each cell of your body will be. So maybe extra testosterone assists in building stronger, healthier hair follicles? All I know is, not only is my hair regrowing, but I'm starting to become more masculine looking. My face and body muscles/ bone structure is noticably more defined, and my skin looks thicker and healthier than ever before. There are more factors involved in the causes of baldness, but I'm living proof that giving up masturbating/sex causes your hair to start to regrow! I'm going to continue doing this until my hairline is fully restored to it's original state. It's really "A Plain Shame" that you denied yourself this pleasure all these years...for no nothing, ts not true (snickers). Maybe you could've smeared your sperm on your head, lol. Seriously, though. How do you account for all the horny guys in the world that have a hell of a lot of hair? Or all the male animals of the world as well? I means if what you're saying would be true..then there would be alot of bald male animals too! Then you have to account for why some woman have baldness as well. Sorry, but it's a FAIL. Why, you had new growth could be anything really, as simplw as taking vitamins or dietary change where you received vitamins abd or minerals that you had been missing...resulting in the hair-loss. Nope, sorry, but I've taken vitamins and minerals over the years, and they did nothing to promote hair growth. when I stopped masturbating for months, my hair began to regrow. You missed the point again; in SOME men, they have more DHT receptors within their follicles, than men who are NOT genetically predisposed to pattern baldness. So... the former category are susceptible to baldness when DHT levels are elevated in the bloodstream (hence through too much masturbating), whereas the latter category can masturbate as often as they want, and they will not go bald because their follicles contain little or no DHT recpetors. OP, how did I "miss" the point again!? This is first I've read and replied to your thread? Lol. I think i see where your fault in discovering why people go bald...you "jump" to conclusions or assume! I still say that your off-track. Some men? Come on. Maybe you need to discover WHY and remedy that? Because you're implying that there's a deffect in some of us? My GF told me to go out and buy "Hair and Nails" vitamin supplement at CVS(Pharmacy)...my hair and nails started growing like crazy! I didn't grow it all back( I'm a hatguy;) but did notice that it was working. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1359267 United Kingdom 05/07/2011 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | WOW this is groundbreaking information and vital to the survival of the human species! Someone twitter this fast!!! Quoting: RighteousWarriormy god cant you tell all the yanks have just got out of bed??? gone from an intellectual debate to a nonsense... sorry yanks you are fucking dumb people. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1373826 United Kingdom 05/07/2011 10:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Like I said, I'm living proof it works. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1372939OP - let me ask you: Whats the difference between our blood being 'heated' by masturbation vs regular sex? Your statement "you tend to sweat a great deal from your scalp during sex" for me isnt true. In other words, it seems from what you are saying that one would actually have to give up BOTH masturbation AND sex to stop the process. I"m afraid that just aint gonna happen for most people. To simplify it: picture your hair follicle to work in the same way as a motherboard on a computer. The motherboard needs a fan constantly cooling it, otherwise it will over heat and burn out. The same applies for the follicle; it's sweat gland needs to be working efficiently, so it can release heat and cool the cell down or, that, too, will overheat and burn out (inflammation). Now imagine the motherboard was running at too high a voltage? It would burn out immediately despite the fan used to cool it. When DHT binds to follicles, the metabolism is raised to high and sooner or later it will overheat and inflame. PLEASE READ MY QUESTION .. you didnt answer it. Well, in my experience, masturbating is easier and more convenient at times, because there's no guarantee that your gf or wife is always going to put out. I'd say that when I was in a relationship I had lots of sex frequently, but that still wasn't enough for me, and I'd find that I still masturbated a great deal. If you can cut down on sex, then naturally your DHT levels will be lower -- in the same way it will decrease when you give up masturbating. Both are the same act, and cause the secretion of the same hormone, the only difference being is, one act involves your hand, the other involves another person. And I can see your point that not many people would buy into this, especially when they are in a sexual relationsip with someone else. But I'm single at the moment, so abstinence suits me fine. |
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