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Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)

 
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05/07/2011 08:22 AM
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Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
I don't know the validity of this experiment. All of you of the engine experts watch this video and suggest.
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05/07/2011 08:24 AM

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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
Yes you can mix alcohol with water and put a percentage of that in gasoline.

Your point?
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05/07/2011 08:25 AM
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
I read yrs ago about one of the ww2 airplane engines with a 12 to 1 cimpression ratio that had water vapor mix with the gas.
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05/07/2011 08:35 AM
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
[link to en.wikipedia.org]


Too much water in an engine not designed for it will shatter pistons bend\break connecting rods\pushrods or blow a head gasket.
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05/07/2011 08:50 AM
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
Even though though it runs the engine I doubt it's efficient seeing as they have a hard time starting it even after they had it running and the exhaust water vapor is polluted. So now you have an inefficient engine that's going to have a harder time under load that pollutes water just to save money at the pump.
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05/07/2011 09:08 AM
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
They need a better method of mixing the gas and water.
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05/07/2011 09:44 AM
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
Why bother? An efficient internal combustion engine has been
around for a century, it can run directly off plant based
oils. Its called a diesel engine.

Still not as good as electric though. A high efficiency
power plant can do much better than any engine.
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05/07/2011 09:58 AM
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
While the captions all look like Greek to me, sorry :) the fact it even runs is impressive. However I don't see any sign of loading on the engine. Might run but if it has no power under load what's the point.
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05/07/2011 10:00 AM
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
Why bother? An efficient internal combustion engine has been
around for a century, it can run directly off plant based
oils. Its called a diesel engine.

Still not as good as electric though. A high efficiency
power plant can do much better than any engine.
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Because I have water piped directly to my house and diesel is about the same price as gasoline; $4.00/gallon. I don't generate any electricity, nor do I have batteries to hold it. I also don't have a plant source to make biodiesel.
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05/07/2011 10:04 AM
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
While the captions all look like Greek to me, sorry :) the fact it even runs is impressive. However I don't see any sign of loading on the engine. Might run but if it has no power under load what's the point.
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This is kind of a hybrid engine. Water can be combusted directly if you have enough energy in the spark, so I guess a water/gasoline mix would run with less energy in the spark. It might run with production ignition voltages.
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05/07/2011 10:23 AM
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
While the captions all look like Greek to me, sorry :) the fact it even runs is impressive. However I don't see any sign of loading on the engine. Might run but if it has no power under load what's the point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1157608


This is kind of a hybrid engine. Water can be combusted directly if you have enough energy in the spark, so I guess a water/gasoline mix would run with less energy in the spark. It might run with production ignition voltages.
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While I'm all for HHO and alternatives, water IS BURNT hydrogen. Even if your spark is strong enough to separate the H2 from the O and yes it will burn, isn't this sort of a -1 +1 kind of thing?
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
Not to down the thread, but wouldn't 1/3 the fuel give 1/3 the power output? It can run but can it do anything?
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Re: Combastion of mix of water and gasoline (70% water - 30% unleaded gasoline)
While the captions all look like Greek to me, sorry :) the fact it even runs is impressive. However I don't see any sign of loading on the engine. Might run but if it has no power under load what's the point.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1157608


This is kind of a hybrid engine. Water can be combusted directly if you have enough energy in the spark, so I guess a water/gasoline mix would run with less energy in the spark. It might run with production ignition voltages.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1365522


While I'm all for HHO and alternatives, water IS BURNT hydrogen. Even if your spark is strong enough to separate the H2 from the O and yes it will burn, isn't this sort of a -1 +1 kind of thing?
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Not really. You can't rule this stuff out automatically or you'll be buying oil for ever.
The challenge is to get enough voltage into the chamber to create a plasma explosion. Some engines have been built to run on sealed gases in the past. Using water is another way. The rare gases used in the past apparently put out radiation which is a problem.
High voltage doesn't necessarily mean high current, but there are dangers with high voltage.

Water is H2O which could be combusted H, but not necessarily.

The future of the piston engine will probably be linked to higher ignition voltages. Instead of 15,000 to 30,000V, think of 100,000 Plus V.





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