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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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Who or what controls this illusion?
I can pretty much see through all the bullshit of this illusion and will sum in up below.

1) It's scripted shit - Your character role is scripted and so is the storyline.

2) Law of attraction is bullshit - It doesn't matter what you say, do, think or believe - The who or what that controls this illusion will sometimes give you what you believe but sometimes not. There is no set formula or rhyme or reason.

3) It seems like a sort of "inverted reality" where you get often what you don't want and what you want is unreachable. Though once in awhile the PC (Program controller) throws out a "cookie" or a "carrot" to pull you along down different "rabbit holes"

4) No one know anything! All you know is you think therefore you are! You can't trust your perceptions. Where do your thoughts, feelings come from? Are your thoughts and feelings scripted by the PC (Program controller)

So my question for you is WHO or WHAT do you think controls this illusion?

It could be the following:

1) Evil Aliens

2) We're already microchipped at birth and we're already programmed

3) We have a higher or expanded part that is "pooping out" scene after scene.

Now I'm going with number 3) because it seems to me I have this big blob or PC (Program Controller) or expanded self or higher self that just "poops out" scenes regardless of what I feel about that scene. It is like this machine that just robotically produces scenes and even has scripted my thoughts, beliefs, feelings and actions. It's all scripted bullshit and yes I've posted before.

It seems the Expanded Asshole that controls this illusion just keeps trying to suck me into the bullshit that is this illusion. It will try to suck me in by using those around me or events to get me going down "rabbit holes" again or buying into the kaka that is this illusion.

Problem is I ain't buying it anymore. I really don't give a flying fuck whether there are chemtrails or whether we end up in FEMA camps...who cares? Just a storyline.

What pisses me off is the fact that I'm not "in the driver's seat". That there is some robotic or sick and twisted fuck of a being controlling the script and my scenes.

I'm looking to hear from others about what or whom they feel controls this illusion and the script.

Not looking for a discussion about whether this illusion is scripted or not.

Not looking for some mind control games by shilltards.

Not looking for a psych evaluation from amateurs who have their own mental problems

Was Descartes correct that some evil aliens are controlling this illusion?

Like I said I believe it's an expanded self that is robotic and "poops out" scenes and feels nothing about what I experience. But I can never know for sure.

The fucker sure likes to dangle "carrots" out there to get me going down "rabbit holes"..that's for sure...

The storyline sure doesn't interest me anymore...could care less about conspiracy shit or mainstream shit...'cause it's all shit...just more "TRAPS" the PC (Program Controller) is dishing out

And please no posts from arrogant condescending assholes who think they know for 100% anything...just your THEORIES because let's face it that's all we have!

I'm gonna read responses and not respond probably for awhile just 'cause I wanna read people's thoughts is all

Thanks!
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
The unspeakable.
Aleilius

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05/07/2011 01:08 PM
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
Maya, the Magus, the Joker, and you.
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05/07/2011 01:27 PM
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
Objective, Rules, and General GameplayOne player, particularly a female (but sometimes a male) plays the "mother", "father" or "captain". The other players are the "children" or "crewmembers". To begin the game, the mother or father stands at one end of a room, while all the children line up at the other end. The children take turns asking "Mother/Father, may I ____?" and makes a movement suggestion. For example, one might ask, "Mother/Father, may I take five steps forward?" The mother/father either replies "Yes, you may" or "No, you may not do that, but you may _____ instead" and inserts his/her own suggestion. The players usually move closer to the mother/father but are sometimes led farther away. Even if the mother/father makes an unfavorable suggestion, the child must still perform it. The first of the children to reach the location of the mother/father wins the game. That child then becomes the mother/father himself, the original mother/father becomes a child, and a new round begins.


Weird....I don't know why this just came to mind...but it did...
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Objective, Rules, and General GameplayOne player, particularly a female (but sometimes a male) plays the "mother", "father" or "captain". The other players are the "children" or "crewmembers". To begin the game, the mother or father stands at one end of a room, while all the children line up at the other end. The children take turns asking "Mother/Father, may I ____?" and makes a movement suggestion. For example, one might ask, "Mother/Father, may I take five steps forward?" The mother/father either replies "Yes, you may" or "No, you may not do that, but you may _____ instead" and inserts his/her own suggestion. The players usually move closer to the mother/father but are sometimes led farther away. Even if the mother/father makes an unfavorable suggestion, the child must still perform it. The first of the children to reach the location of the mother/father wins the game. That child then becomes the mother/father himself, the original mother/father becomes a child, and a new round begins.


Weird....I don't know why this just came to mind...but it did...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


Not weird, real good observation actually, this is how the game is played.
BRAVO!
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Objective, Rules, and General GameplayOne player, particularly a female (but sometimes a male) plays the "mother", "father" or "captain". The other players are the "children" or "crewmembers". To begin the game, the mother or father stands at one end of a room, while all the children line up at the other end. The children take turns asking "Mother/Father, may I ____?" and makes a movement suggestion. For example, one might ask, "Mother/Father, may I take five steps forward?" The mother/father either replies "Yes, you may" or "No, you may not do that, but you may _____ instead" and inserts his/her own suggestion. The players usually move closer to the mother/father but are sometimes led farther away. Even if the mother/father makes an unfavorable suggestion, the child must still perform it. The first of the children to reach the location of the mother/father wins the game. That child then becomes the mother/father himself, the original mother/father becomes a child, and a new round begins.


Weird....I don't know why this just came to mind...but it did...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


Not weird, real good observation actually, this is how the game is played.
BRAVO!
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you know...I have always asked...but never have I said May I. I'm going to try this in a new perspective.hf
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
OP, you are on the right track. Everything has already been decided.

I personally noticed this at an early age when i was abusing Butane(yes its stupid, but a real eye-opener). Everytime the substance started to kick in there was this "Deja-vu" about an other time using the substance. 2 "highs" were always connected thus you could say i could see the future.

Tried fighting the "destiny" but always ended up angry that the illusion had played me all along.
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05/07/2011 02:18 PM
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
A not unreasonable perspective based on my experiences. The challenge is that with our ordinarily quite limited abilities it may well be impossible to ever comprehend what is truly going on and who is really "in charge", if "anyone".
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
The unspeakable.
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And what is that pray tell.
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
The unspeakable.
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And what is that pray tell.
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Don't know.
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
Maya, the Magus, the Joker, and you.
 Quoting: Aleilius


Sounds like a song.
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
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Another "opium" or trick of the mind.
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
Maya, the Magus, the Joker, and you.
 Quoting: Aleilius


Sounds like a song.
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It is a song. It's the song of creation, and destruction.
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Objective, Rules, and General GameplayOne player, particularly a female (but sometimes a male) plays the "mother", "father" or "captain". The other players are the "children" or "crewmembers". To begin the game, the mother or father stands at one end of a room, while all the children line up at the other end. The children take turns asking "Mother/Father, may I ____?" and makes a movement suggestion. For example, one might ask, "Mother/Father, may I take five steps forward?" The mother/father either replies "Yes, you may" or "No, you may not do that, but you may _____ instead" and inserts his/her own suggestion. The players usually move closer to the mother/father but are sometimes led farther away. Even if the mother/father makes an unfavorable suggestion, the child must still perform it. The first of the children to reach the location of the mother/father wins the game. That child then becomes the mother/father himself, the original mother/father becomes a child, and a new round begins.


Weird....I don't know why this just came to mind...but it did...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


Now this is an interesting response.

So I'm probably gonna have to let this finish playing out.

How tedious!
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
yah, it's pretty messed up from a humans point of view. it's taken me a long time to stop raging against the machine.
ET's are involved. i had to determine if all of them were evil. they aren't. so i will go along with the bs hoping to understand later. guess they gotta do what they gotta do..
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Objective, Rules, and General GameplayOne player, particularly a female (but sometimes a male) plays the "mother", "father" or "captain". The other players are the "children" or "crewmembers". To begin the game, the mother or father stands at one end of a room, while all the children line up at the other end. The children take turns asking "Mother/Father, may I ____?" and makes a movement suggestion. For example, one might ask, "Mother/Father, may I take five steps forward?" The mother/father either replies "Yes, you may" or "No, you may not do that, but you may _____ instead" and inserts his/her own suggestion. The players usually move closer to the mother/father but are sometimes led farther away. Even if the mother/father makes an unfavorable suggestion, the child must still perform it. The first of the children to reach the location of the mother/father wins the game. That child then becomes the mother/father himself, the original mother/father becomes a child, and a new round begins.


Weird....I don't know why this just came to mind...but it did...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


Not weird, real good observation actually, this is how the game is played.
BRAVO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1299003


There are no guarantees this is "how the game is played"

They're all theories until they are not!
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
OP,

What is it that you think is illusory?

Is your hand real? Does your heart beat?
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Objective, Rules, and General GameplayOne player, particularly a female (but sometimes a male) plays the "mother", "father" or "captain". The other players are the "children" or "crewmembers". To begin the game, the mother or father stands at one end of a room, while all the children line up at the other end. The children take turns asking "Mother/Father, may I ____?" and makes a movement suggestion. For example, one might ask, "Mother/Father, may I take five steps forward?" The mother/father either replies "Yes, you may" or "No, you may not do that, but you may _____ instead" and inserts his/her own suggestion. The players usually move closer to the mother/father but are sometimes led farther away. Even if the mother/father makes an unfavorable suggestion, the child must still perform it. The first of the children to reach the location of the mother/father wins the game. That child then becomes the mother/father himself, the original mother/father becomes a child, and a new round begins.


Weird....I don't know why this just came to mind...but it did...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


Not weird, real good observation actually, this is how the game is played.
BRAVO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1299003


you know...I have always asked...but never have I said May I. I'm going to try this in a new perspective.hf
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1369837


No point asking when it's scripted! "May I" doesn't change the script!
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
OP,

What is it that you think is illusory?

Is your hand real? Does your heart beat?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373791


OP is saying that free will on a larger scale is an illusion.
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
EPIC THREADNESS!!!
ex fulltime researcher, 11+years in total
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this so needs to be pinned
ex fulltime researcher, 11+years in total
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
What pisses me off is the fact that I'm not "in the driver's seat". That there is some robotic or sick and twisted fuck of a being controlling the script and my scenes.
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The "I" (or ego) is not in the driver's seat, it's the unconscious that's really running things...... maybe.
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Yeah I said fuck it, I'm not messing around anymore, I'm ready to give my life. I will no longer contribute to the evil system. I no longer pay or file income taxes or contribute in any way that I can avoid. The time has come to crash the system and if it won't crash then I'm ready to die. It's time to stop being fearful slaves and time to become gods.
What the believer believes the prover proves. Robert Anton Wilson

Nothing is plainer than that the sympathy with war is a juvenile and temporary status. Ralph Waldo Emerson
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
OP,

What is it that you think is illusory?

Is your hand real? Does your heart beat?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1373791


OP is saying that free will on a larger scale is an illusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1325291


Societal level? Individual? Atomic? What does it mean for free will to exist on a small scale but not larger?
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
OP, you are on the right track. Everything has already been decided.

I personally noticed this at an early age when i was abusing Butane(yes its stupid, but a real eye-opener). Everytime the substance started to kick in there was this "Deja-vu" about an other time using the substance. 2 "highs" were always connected thus you could say i could see the future.

Tried fighting the "destiny" but always ended up angry that the illusion had played me all along.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1325291


It's a tedious exercise playing this scripted role...

Maybe I can defeat the programming? I can see exactly what is coming most of the time and when I hear scripted shit out of characters around me I roll my eyes now..it's so predictable

I think of a skunk and 'lo and behold I see a skunk when I go out walking

I want some severe tornadoes and a couple hours later the tornado alarms go off

Fine and dandy with the small stuff like the skunk but with the stuff that really matters it's becoming tedious.

Yeah kewl that I think a street needs streetlights and then suddenly they are putting up streetlights but really I'd love to just fast forward...
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A not unreasonable perspective based on my experiences. The challenge is that with our ordinarily quite limited abilities it may well be impossible to ever comprehend what is truly going on and who is really "in charge", if "anyone".
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Yeah...
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bumpbump and bump!!!!!
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
The unspeakable.
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And what is that pray tell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209

Don't know.
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Of course you don't lol
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
Maya, the Magus, the Joker, and you.
 Quoting: Aleilius


Sounds like a song.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209


It is a song. It's the song of creation, and destruction.
 Quoting: Aleilius


Yes. When I "appear to die" this hologram ceases to exist!
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Re: Who or what controls this illusion?
yah, it's pretty messed up from a humans point of view. it's taken me a long time to stop raging against the machine.
ET's are involved. i had to determine if all of them were evil. they aren't. so i will go along with the bs hoping to understand later. guess they gotta do what they gotta do..
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It's a possibility.

Never met an ET so I don't know if they're in the storyline.

Still believe a bigger ME is creating this illusion

I believe bigger ME is robotic in nature and just "pooping out" scenes. Bigger ME is really little ME experiencing limitations.

Could be ET's but since I've never met one I wouldn't know.

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