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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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OP told me he won't be posting anymore. Sorry. No explanation.
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OP told me he won't be posting anymore. Sorry. No explanation.
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Is this thread all about the OP?
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Anyway, the OP has said "I won't be posting anymore" many times before in this thread.

I wonder what makes him so sure of the future this time? rolleyes
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In his Meditations, Descartes invoked the idea of an evil genius – an omnipotent but malignant being whose sole purpose is to deceive us in all of our perceptual experiences and beliefs – to challenge the idea that we have certain knowledge of the world around us. Given the logical possibility that such a creature exists, how can we be certain that our beliefs about the world are not radically mistaken? How, Descartes asked, can we be certain that we are all not utterly deceived?

How can you be certain that you are not the unwitting star of a television drama that the rest of the world watches for their amusement?

In order to appreciate the second point of philosophical significance to the movie, we need to consider an important transition that occurs in the story. Through a series of mistakes made by Christof’s production team, Truman comes to suspect that something is wrong with his understanding of the world. The further he digs, the more suspicious he becomes until, finally, he is certain that he is being deceived, though he does not yet know why. Truman therefore resolves to escape from the community of Sea Haven. The escape that he plans involves ingenuity and bravery. For he must, in the first place, accept that almost all of his previous beliefs about himself, his world, and the people around him are false. Secondly, in leaving this community, Truman is breaking all ties with the only people he has ever known, and venturing out into a world of which he has no knowledge. Thirdly, since any escape involves travelling over water, Truman must overcome his fear of water.



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This is also my last post. This is for you OP since you are a fan!

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I am drunk and high. I am currently conversing with both Jesus and Satan. Satan lost the last hand. blink
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[link to www.harrypotterforseekers.com]
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since any escape involves travelling over water, Truman must overcome his fear of water.
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a.k.a.

the unconscious
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This is also my last post. This is for you OP since you are a fan!


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Yes, OP posted that song before, the dead mother eh?
I wonder what that symbolises! wink
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In order to appreciate the second point of philosophical significance to the movie, we need to consider an important transition that occurs in the story. Through a series of mistakes made by Christof’s production team, Truman comes to suspect that something is wrong with his understanding of the world. The further he digs, the more suspicious he becomes until, finally, he is certain that he is being deceived, though he does not yet know why. Truman therefore resolves to escape from the community of Sea Haven. The escape that he plans involves ingenuity and bravery. For he must, in the first place, accept that almost all of his previous beliefs about himself, his world, and the people around him are false. Secondly, in leaving this community, Truman is breaking all ties with the only people he has ever known, and venturing out into a world of which he has no knowledge. Thirdly, since any escape involves travelling over water, Truman must overcome his fear of water.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2586637


The Truman Show's story is once again that of The Hero’s Journey, same as Dark City and many other films.
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that's why the money stuff.

that's why babies and children brought over to us

that's why all the irritation scripting

that's why all the posing from pretty boys

that's why all the opiums hung out like superpowers or me being "The One" or the "2 witnesses"

that's why all the talk of sickness, death, doom, earthuakes, storms blah blah blah

the illusion is trying to bring us back in because it has lost its grip on us

because if ONE pulls out what happens to the WHOLE

so maybe this dream is over.

it's all coming to an end and i'm the key

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Are you saying the illusion has gone insane? That could be true, or the parts have almost all frayed.
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Are you saying the illusion has gone insane? That could be true, or the parts have almost all frayed.
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Paul Levy calls it our "collective psychosis".

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Eckhart Tolle comments that, to the extent that the ego is present in an individual, that individual is somewhat insane psychologically, in reference to the ego's nature as compulsively hyper-active and compulsively (and pathologically) self-centered. However, since this is the norm, it goes unrecognised as the source of much that could be classified as insane behavior in everyday life. In South Asian traditions, the state of being trapped in the illusory belief that one is the ego is known as maya or samsara.
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This guy is right about himself and I am sorry for him, he searched and came up empty and now thinks he is enlightened.
I kind of know where he is coming from.

My blackness, that is the nothingness came only one time. One time I felt there was nothing, but I prayed, OH, God please do not leave me for I am afraid. After that brief time I knew without God, we are nothing, we are in total darkness and nothing is real.
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Form is Emptiness and Emptiness is Form.

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This is also my last post. This is for you OP since you are a fan!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2586637


Yes, OP posted that song before, the dead mother eh?
I wonder what that symbolises! wink
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27469112


[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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This is also my last post. This is for you OP since you are a fan!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2586637


Yes, OP posted that song before, the dead mother eh?
I wonder what that symbolises! wink
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[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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[link to jimmoyers.com]
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As with any psychological content, anima relations have their pitfalls. For example, a man may be captured by his anima, so to speak, and so identify with her that he finds her in an actual woman, marries or partners with her, and is led away from his responsibility to himself. In fairy tales, this problem is often represented by the false bride character.

When inner realities are not recognized or owned, they appear in the outside world through projection. Thus, if a man’s anima is lonely and desperate for attention, he will tend to fall in love with dependent women who demand his time and energy. The man with a mother-bound anima will choose a woman who wants to take care of him. The man not living up to his potential will be attracted to women who goad him on and make more of him than he would otherwise be. In other words, whatever qualities a man does not recognize or develop within himself will confront him in real life.

Negative manifestations of the ignored or repressed anima can be seen in a man’s waspish and poisonous remarks, whereby he gives the image of a person playing a destructive intellectual game. He may become such a pseudo-intellectual that he loses all joy and spontaneity in life and becomes stalled by always ruminating on it.

Jung pointed out that the problem of admiring or worshiping the anima in a collective sense, as in goddess worship, is that she loses her individual aspects as soon as she is shared. A man’s anima is meant to be his and his alone; once she is projected into the world rather than integrated into his very being, a man becomes either a “victim of his erotic fantasies or compulsively dependent on one actual woman” (Jung 198).
How She Serves

The anima serves the man by working as his guide to the unconscious. Like the animus in a woman, the anima also becomes the mediator of the religious experience “whereby life acquires new meaning” (Jung 207). Without the anima development, a man finally arrives at a place in his life where he realizes his life is without meaning. This is an indication that he has some work to do with his anima. The man who recalls his anima projections and becomes to himself what he longs to find outside himself finds that his suffering is worthwhile, for it makes him a deeper, more vibrantly alive, and creative human being.

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I just discovered that the so called galactic federation of channeled entities (whom are satan and the fallen angels) have been prompting their followers to vote Obama into office, assuring them he now works for the good guys (them, HA!) and that as president he will remove the dark forces of the illuminati.

these people have fallen for it hook, line and sinker.

and they will spend the upcoming Millennium Age with their heads hung down in shame for being found to be worshipping satan or antichrist as he's referenced biblically, at the actual second advent.

the antichrist arrives 5 months prior to the return of the true Christ. only those who agree to worship him will be allowed to buy or sell.

as it's written he only has 5 months. tops, hence it will be no feat to go that length of time without needing to buy or sell if one is even somewhat prepared. God will provide for all those who make the stand against the son of perdition, regardless.

such will determine the lot you land upon during the upcoming Age. these who've already received the mark in both their right hands (for doing his work) and their foreheads (for believing him to be the messiah) will spend the full thousand years of the upcoming Age stuck on the wrong/hell side of the intraversable gulf which divides the overcomers who've put on immortality from all those who will be considered to be spiritually dead for the full measure of said Age.

it won't be pretty for these followers of the galactic federation of light, who've been promised they will not only "ascend" but become "creator gods" themselves shortly by these evil channeled entities feigning themselves to be "gods" themselves.

they are clearly being led by their EGOS, as there is only and will only ever be ONE GOD, ONE CREATOR, one Father, and it is He who will judge these deceived as being unfit following the 5 month period of tribulation during which this false one will rule the world, as it's written.

I guess they deserve what they're going to get since they are being duped as always thru their egos. it's still sad and makes me ill to watch. far better to be killed by antichrist then suffer a thousand years of SHAME in the Age to follow. there is no alternative, such is the basis of tribulation.

fake arrives first at the 6th Trumpet

true Christ arrives 5 months later at the 7th Trumpet

if you are still in flesh you can be sure the true Christ hasn't yet returned as the instant he arrives ALL are instantly changed back into their spiritual bodies.

clearly these so called light workers haven't a clue as to Gods words biblically, had they been they'd at least know that their channeled entity was referenced therein and not in a good light.

so be it for it be so
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OP

Don't you see you're almost there. That's why things have been taken away from you

Detachment and not wanting anything in this world. Reject it all

You need to hate everything about this world

That's how you leave this world

Luke l4:26

New International Version (©1984)
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple.



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OP

Don't you see you're almost there. That's why things have been taken away from you

Detachment and not wanting anything in this world. Reject it all

You need to hate everything about this world

That's how you leave this world

Luke l4:26

New International Version (©1984)
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple.



[link to bible.cc]
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Detachment and not wanting anything in this world. Reject it all

You need to hate everything about this world

That's how you leave this world

Luke l4:26

New International Version (©1984)
"If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters--yes, even his own life--he cannot be my disciple.


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Have you left this world?
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Do you mean "leave this world" literally?
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Do you mean "leave this world" literally?
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That is my post not OPs
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These last couple of months, I've been toying with the idea, of leaving society.

Isn't the whole thing a bit of an act? Imagine that. Sell yourself, a fake smile here and there, the right words they'd want to hear, now you've raised your perceived 'value', and you've caught one.

Luxury automobiles, what are you trying to prove? So people think you're pretty great. Congratulations. Things go out of fashion.
Adapt or die, adapt to the new, who controls that? New?

I've come to realise that I've more in common with tribals than the 'civilised', because I resent dishonesty.

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