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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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temporary interruption of my silence to post the following:
My new policies: 1) all beLIEfs are lies including Bob's beLIEfs 2) all experiences are lies 3) everything i have been taught is a lie 4) now i will say 'i don't know' or maybe or maybe not. 5) everything is 50/50 6) fuck wants & desires and fuck the not wants also 7) don't react to anything in this world 8) all my senses are a lie 9) this body is a lie

i needed to put that out there for myself. strict silence.
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won't have internet after today. so no more blah blah. here is a link to a post of mine on other website for what it's worth. for those who would see value in it. it's why the owl is outside my window all the time. basically most in this world are in EGOic character role or FALSE SELF. what i've done is pull out of my character role. everything that is attached to character role or false self goes...emotions, thoughts in head, attachments to things, sex/love, beliefs, interest in storyline, body image, the past, family-of-origin etc. i can SEE because i no longer have all those things attached to EGOic character role or FALSE SELF blocking my perception. those in FALSE SELF can't see the forest for the trees. they will project their own experiences, emotions, wants/desires etc.etc onto others...anyways see ya...won't have internet anymore

[link to jedmckenna.webs.com]
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I agree with you OP, and since 21st dec doom didn't happened my beliefs have furthered strengthened that this world is a lie and no one is coming to free us.
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I agree with you OP, and since 21st dec doom didn't happened my beliefs have furthered strengthened that this world is a lie and no one is coming to free us.
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yeah lots of traps...waiting for anything is a trap...everything connected to your character role is a trap - emotions, thoughts in head, body image, sex/love, politics, religion, beliefs, senses, past experiences/attachments to anything/wants/desires/not wants...everything in this world is a trap...i love the Bahai quote someone posted above. it speaks volumes to me:

O thou servant of God!
Thy letter was received. Thou hast spoken concerning thy lack of ability and capacity. Wert thou without ability and capacity, thou wouldst not have advanced toward the Kingdom of ABHA.
Consider how there are thousands of heedless souls who are asleep, while there is one who is conscious and awake! Even as His Holiness Christ has said, the friends of God are the salt of the earth, and the salt is but a little part of the whole. Undoubtedly the friends of God have been endowed with ability and capacity, on which account this became of the “chosen” and not of the “called.”
O thou spiritual friend! This world is a prison for heavenly souls, and this earthly world is but a cage, and not a nest, unto the divine birds. A prisoner who is awake and conscious will certainly seek for freedom, and a mindful bird will certainly wish for deliverance from the cage. When the heart becometh free from attachment unto this world, it will crave for the world of the Kingdom and seek for eternal life.

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internet posting days over for good. we're gonna sell the computer for money. bored with internet. it's REALLY pointless posting anymore.
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internet posting days over for good. we're gonna sell the computer for money. bored with internet. it's REALLY pointless posting anymore.
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So why do you still keep on posting to tell us you're not posting anymore and that it's pointless then?

Who are you trying to convince?
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basically most in this world are in EGOic character role or FALSE SELF.
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This is your belief, your projection onto the world.

1) all beLIEfs are lies


There's no such thing as an "ego", it's a concept that someone thought up, a word for an idea that people have different definitions for, it doesn't exist in reality. Show me an "ego", what is it?
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here is a link to a post of mine on other website for what it's worth.
[link to jedmckenna.webs.com]
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lmao


Why is "Special K" so hostile and unable/unwilling to consider any point of view other than his own?
[link to jedmckenna.webs.com]


Are "Jimmy the Conman" and "Conman Jed" (aka, Klaatu, Internet days over, Special K, splatter poop mouth, account deleted, you are all wankers) the same person?
[link to jedmckenna.webs.com]
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here is a link to a post of mine on other website for what it's worth.
[link to jedmckenna.webs.com]
 Quoting: OP 30710271


lmao


Why is "Special K" so hostile and unable/unwilling to consider any point of view other than his own?
[link to jedmckenna.webs.com]


Are "Jimmy the Conman" and "Conman Jed" (aka, Klaatu, Internet days over, Special K, splatter poop mouth, account deleted, you are all wankers) the same person?
[link to jedmckenna.webs.com]
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i really appreciate your post actually. because you've helped me realize that don juan matus was correct. when going thru this stuff you need to 'create a fog' around yourself 'cause nobody can understand it.

the 'force' that don juan matus refers to as 'flyers' and some people call archons actually control EGOic minds of people/characters. he was aware of that as i am since i can see how people are controlled by 'it'. by posting on forums i open myself up to the 'force's' scripting which is not a good idea

'jimmy the conman'etc. is not my login. my login is 'Special K'...same account though name changed many times...i linked that website above myself so people could have read all that themselves. they'll see my posts are playful and inciteful...

leaving where i am today...selling the computers for money. nothing to do on internet anymore. only check emails and i can do that at the library. anyone interested can find my email in my discussion here.

i'll be vigilant about silence. it's the only way to block all scripting by this 'force'. i just open myself up to hearing nonsense if i don't.

i stand by what i said. all my senses are a trap. all my experiences are a trap. this world is a trap. all beliefs are lies. there will never be Bob's phase III there will never be rapture or new age new earth. there will never be doom. there will never be anything but repeating bullshit so 'it' can feed.

you are all in a hypnotic trance and for some reason i can that and i've woken up. this world is a cage and you're trapped by buying into the illusions presented...

for some reason (i know belief but my experience and yes i know my experiences can be lies) when you step out of EGOic character role or FALSE SELF all those things go with it like emotions, thoughts in head, sex, love, interest in news, interest in conspiracies, attachments, beliefs, body image, interest in anything really.

once you pull out of character role you see this world for the prison that it is. no more attachments means you can't be fooled anymore. the characters are all still stuck in hypnotic trance though buying into the illusions..

it has been nice sharing my world with you. the world you see projected is not what it seems. far worse actually.

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The definition of insanity is to repeat the same thing, over and over, expecting a different result.
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Self does. Or Ø. Just pay attention and learn the leassons so you dont have to repeat them. Roage.com if you want to learn more.
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you are all in a hypnotic trance and for some reason i can that and i've woken up.
this world is a cage and you're trapped by buying into the illusions presented...
the world you see projected is not what it seems. far worse actually
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What you see is what you are.
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i stand by what i said. all my senses are a trap. all my experiences are a trap. this world is a trap. all beliefs are lies. there will never be Bob's phase III there will never be rapture or new age new earth. there will never be doom. there will never be anything but repeating bullshit so 'it' can feed.

you are all in a hypnotic trance and for some reason i can that and i've woken up. this world is a cage and you're trapped by buying into the illusions presented...

for some reason (i know belief but my experience and yes i know my experiences can be lies) when you step out of EGOic character role or FALSE SELF all those things go with it like emotions, thoughts in head, sex, love, interest in news, interest in conspiracies, attachments, beliefs, body image, interest in anything really.

once you pull out of character role you see this world for the prison that it is. no more attachments means you can't be fooled anymore. the characters are all still stuck in hypnotic trance though buying into the illusions..

it has been nice sharing my world with you. the world you see projected is not what it seems. far worse actually.

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You have just negated yourself.
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you are all in a hypnotic trance and for some reason i can that and i've woken up.
this world is a cage and you're trapped by buying into the illusions presented...
the world you see projected is not what it seems. far worse actually
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Break the hypnotic trance now!!!

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you are all in a hypnotic trance and for some reason i can that and i've woken up.
this world is a cage and you're trapped by buying into the illusions presented...
the world you see projected is not what it seems. far worse actually
.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11628147



Break the hypnotic trance now!!!


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The COLOUR of INSANITY

Keeping in mind that there is no such thing as TIME or SPACE. All of what we experience in the 3D scheme of things is simply an illusory reality. This includes our lives … our body, our mind, and our temporary energy spirit that drives this illusory form. None of this is real, and the luciferian mindset has accomplished an amazing tapestry of illusory images to cause all to look to the illusion as reality. Most are totally convinced that somehow we can be set free from the enslavement of this illusion, by somehow making the illusory 3D life experience better, IF … we can just become aware that this is an illusion. However, becoming aware that this is an illusion is to realize that it can never be made better. In turn, the SUPPOSED IMPORTANCE, WORTH and VALUE of the 3D ILLUSION CAN BE ELIMINATED through awareness of what’s transpiring in the 3D sense of things. In this way reconnection to the eternal wisdom state occurs. To continue contemplating value and importance, or worth, towards the 3D realm, lends itself to folly and failure, two drunken dance partners, perpetuating misery and despair. The 3D life illusion is not real and was conjured up to fail, and indeed has no ability to succeed towards betterment, as 3 dimensionality is itself, the corruption and the failing aspect of the illusion.

3D is SPACE, and has come into existence through the THOUGHT PROCESS, where the temporary light energy, or spirit, manifests the thoughts of the LIGHT BRINGERS, who form the luciferian egregore group of thinkers. This manifestation of luciferian thoughts form the hypnotic trance state we find ourselves experiencing. Part of that trance state is the suggestion that ENERGY, or SPIRIT, is eternal and cannot be eliminated. When in reality energy, or the spirit, is TEMPORAL, and is, in itself, (once again), the illusion that has firmly entrenched the notion within the trance state, that it is eternal. In reality, because there is no such thing as TIME and SPACE, ENERGY NEVER EXISTED. Only the illusion of energy exists. If ENERGY NEVER EXISTED, or the GREAT SPIRIT NEVER EXISTED, then GOD NEVER EXISTED. Energy is the illusion of 3 dimensional reality. The energy spirit is the illusion supporting the notion that there must be a god. Energy is spirit, and therefore ENERGY supports the lunacy of a creator god, when in fact, because ENERGY is simply LIGHT, or THOUGHTS of the luciferian mindset, then the notion of god, is just a THOUGHT CONCEPT, only supported by the illusory presence of ENERGY. When you eliminate one concept, that energy is an illusion created by the THOUGHT PROCESS, then you eliminate the ridiculous concept of a supreme loving creator god, or godliness, or love, or divinity of any description. Yet, the ETERNAL STATE of WISDOM is that ALL KNOWING, that consists of NO-THING 3 DIMENSIONAL, and still KNOWS ALL. Who we really are, is not a WE, but is the ULTIMATE STATE of BEING – the PARADISE STATE. Its this state the luciferian thought process seeks to control and manipulate, and in so doing, drawing to themselves the power of that state.

When this hypnotic mumbo-jumbo is eliminated from our illusory reality, we then have the ability to reconnect to the eternal wisdom state of paradise. In other words, believing that humanity is real, or anything in the 3D plane is real, fosters disconnection from REALITY and PARADISE and disconnects us from experiencing our eternal power that is ALREADY, right now, who and what we really are.
So how does one explain INSANITY?

Consider the text and pictures of the Boise State Football (Idaho) team and stadium, keeping in mind that these are illusory forms, throwing and kicking the pigskin (football) back and forth, over a BLUE PAINTED field, with 32,000 screaming fans, (also illusory forms), becoming emotionally connected to the illusion before them. This is TRANCE INDUCEMENT! None of this is right or wrong, good or bad, or any such thing. Its just used to deceive, and manipulate, IF WE LET IT. It happens everywhere, all the time, throughout the world, and never more so than now, in these days of establishing our illusory reality for us, for the purpose of curtailing our ability to remain connected to REALITY. The luciferian agenda is one of total disconnection through subliminal suggestion, that uses the illusory life form called HUMANITY to attempt to destroy, or CONTROL, the ultimate state of being that JUST IS.
The Battle with the luciferian / illuminati agenda does not occur on the battlefields of the world. The battlefields of the world are merely subliminal suggestions, interlaced with all manner of 3D apparatus, manipulating our fascination with the 3 dimensional experience to such a degree that we continue to believe its real. The elite illuminati puppets of the world are manifested for ONE MAIN PURPOSE, that being, to convince the world that there really is a world filled with elite leaders who are attempting to bring in a ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT, or a NEW WORLD ORDER, or the KINGDOM OF GOD ON EARTH. Which of course, is what they’re establishing before our eyes. However, the elite of the world have not the slightest clue, in REALITY, of why they do what they do. The luciferian thinkers have conjured the illuminati elitists, to perpetuate the myth, and to draw up battle lines throughout the world, to act as a smokescreen to hide what is being demonstrated on this site. The elitist puppets are amongst us to cause a reaction, to create a distortion of reality. This is a FAKE PLAY, a TRICK

[link to illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com]
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Define control. To control something you must be aware of it. Who is aware?

Do we all have influence over this reality? Yes. Do we have control? No, not all. Are we capable of it? Yes. Is it hidden? Yes. Will it be revealed? Yes.
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Do we all have influence over this reality? Yes.
Do we have control? No, not all.
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What's the difference between influence and control?
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**The oh-so common non-dual sufferer** by Bentinho Massaro


Many non-dual fans turn their life into an unnecessary stretch of endless semi-acknowledged suffering. After all, the sufferer isn't allowed to have desires and act on them, or make changes in its circumstances, or even be passionate about something in the future, for that would be non-non-dual, right? Sad.

This is no more holy than to try and be a good gir...l or boy for your daddy and mommy. But now instead of wanting to look good in the eyes of daddy and mommy, it is in the eyes of the non-dual community and its teachers that have now nested themselves in your own mind, so that even when they are not looking, you believe you should be non-dually correct.

So we keep ourselves stuck, pretending that the highest way is the way where we just don't do anything about anything, and where we don't work WITH our desires. Rather, we work against them or dismiss them or suppress them, but pretend it is sacred to do so, and so we call it 'letting it be as it is'.

If you are suffering even a little bit, there is no real 'letting it be as it is'. Sometimes 'letting it be as it is' simply doesn't work through this avenue, and it can only truly come about through acting on your passions and desires first, because you're not always meant to let everything be as it is circumstantially.

If you have passionate desires raging within that are not just revolving around protecting yourself, but feel truly inspired, that bear with them a spark of excitement, of joy, of possibilities... then they have a very real purpose. They are a glimpse into your possible future. You should act on them if you wish to release the stuckness of being a non-dual sufferer and stop keeping it all in in the name of freedom.

Let it all out, and act on it with respect and integrity toward your environment and the beings in it.

Desires won't go away if they are genuine. We can keep suppressing them with non-dual BS, or we can start to open up to and listen to the natural impulse of life through which alone it creates anything whatsoever. All is made possible through desire alone.

Everything you see is the result of desire. Without desire, there wouldn't be creation. Thus, even The One, The Absolute, has desires. Why try to be more non-dual than The One? It's a fools game.

We were made in its image. Thus we desire, because we're meant to be vessels for creation, not just vessels for being witness to being stuck for 80 years with no real fulfillment and calling it 'enlightenment'.

Ask yourself, are you afraid to take action? Are you afraid to enter the play again? Are you afraid to have desires and have to face patience, success, failure, skillfulness, practice, and all of those experiences that come with being passionate about a change?

Be bold, be fearless, act with integrity and alignment. Don't stay where you are. Life never stays where it is. Flow.

You have my non-dual permission ;-).
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If you go up to a stone Buddha and you hit him hard on the head, nothing happens.
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**The oh-so common non-dual sufferer** by Bentinho Massaro


Many non-dual fans turn their life into an unnecessary stretch of endless semi-acknowledged suffering. After all, the sufferer isn't allowed to have desires and act on them, or make changes in its circumstances, or even be passionate about something in the future, for that would be non-non-dual, right? Sad.

This is no more holy than to try and be a good gir...l or boy for your daddy and mommy. But now instead of wanting to look good in the eyes of daddy and mommy, it is in the eyes of the non-dual community and its teachers that have now nested themselves in your own mind, so that even when they are not looking, you believe you should be non-dually correct.

So we keep ourselves stuck, pretending that the highest way is the way where we just don't do anything about anything, and where we don't work WITH our desires. Rather, we work against them or dismiss them or suppress them, but pretend it is sacred to do so, and so we call it 'letting it be as it is'.

If you are suffering even a little bit, there is no real 'letting it be as it is'. Sometimes 'letting it be as it is' simply doesn't work through this avenue, and it can only truly come about through acting on your passions and desires first, because you're not always meant to let everything be as it is circumstantially.

If you have passionate desires raging within that are not just revolving around protecting yourself, but feel truly inspired, that bear with them a spark of excitement, of joy, of possibilities... then they have a very real purpose. They are a glimpse into your possible future. You should act on them if you wish to release the stuckness of being a non-dual sufferer and stop keeping it all in in the name of freedom.

Let it all out, and act on it with respect and integrity toward your environment and the beings in it.

Desires won't go away if they are genuine. We can keep suppressing them with non-dual BS, or we can start to open up to and listen to the natural impulse of life through which alone it creates anything whatsoever. All is made possible through desire alone.

Everything you see is the result of desire. Without desire, there wouldn't be creation. Thus, even The One, The Absolute, has desires. Why try to be more non-dual than The One? It's a fools game.

We were made in its image. Thus we desire, because we're meant to be vessels for creation, not just vessels for being witness to being stuck for 80 years with no real fulfillment and calling it 'enlightenment'.

Ask yourself, are you afraid to take action? Are you afraid to enter the play again? Are you afraid to have desires and have to face patience, success, failure, skillfulness, practice, and all of those experiences that come with being passionate about a change?

Be bold, be fearless, act with integrity and alignment. Don't stay where you are. Life never stays where it is. Flow.

You have my non-dual permission ;-).
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Being a 'fan' of something implies going around and around and creating a lot of wind! haha, Seeing duality for what it is means an end to the endless cycles.

'Future' is nothing but an illusion.

Anyone who is truly awake and out of the trance doesn't give a rats ass what any community thinks, lol

Desires are not our own as our minds are not our own. They are fed to our brain to perpetuate the illusion.

It's not about 'enlightenment' it's about disconnecting by being in the present moment and reconnecting with Wisdom.
Enlightenment suggest having the light which is the 'lie' The lie is what we see all around us as fractured light. Jesus and Satan were both the lie bringer, the bright and morning star, the light (lie) of the world.

It's not a matter of being afraid, it's a matter of not wanting to continue with this charade. This 'whirled' is designed to be corrupt and to frustrate. If truly we had any power to create in 3D there would be perfection, peace, joy and freedom.

When we are not in the trance we are not sad or suffering, we are laughing as we know none of it is real.

Peace
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When we are not in the trance we are not sad or suffering, we are laughing as we know none of it is real.
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Are you out of the trance?

Do you spend your whole time laughing then? It must hurt after a while.
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I can pretty much see through all the bullshit of this illusion and will sum in up below.

1) It's scripted shit - Your character role is scripted and so is the storyline.

2) Law of attraction is bullshit - It doesn't matter what you say, do, think or believe - The who or what that controls this illusion will sometimes give you what you believe but sometimes not. There is no set formula or rhyme or reason.

3) It seems like a sort of "inverted reality" where you get often what you don't want and what you want is unreachable. Though once in awhile the PC (Program controller) throws out a "cookie" or a "carrot" to pull you along down different "rabbit holes"

4) No one know anything! All you know is you think therefore you are! You can't trust your perceptions. Where do your thoughts, feelings come from? Are your thoughts and feelings scripted by the PC (Program controller)

So my question for you is WHO or WHAT do you think controls this illusion?

It could be the following:

1) Evil Aliens

2) We're already microchipped at birth and we're already programmed

3) We have a higher or expanded part that is "pooping out" scene after scene.

Now I'm going with number 3) because it seems to me I have this big blob or PC (Program Controller) or expanded self or higher self that just "poops out" scenes regardless of what I feel about that scene. It is like this machine that just robotically produces scenes and even has scripted my thoughts, beliefs, feelings and actions. It's all scripted bullshit and yes I've posted before.

It seems the Expanded Asshole that controls this illusion just keeps trying to suck me into the bullshit that is this illusion. It will try to suck me in by using those around me or events to get me going down "rabbit holes" again or buying into the kaka that is this illusion.

Problem is I ain't buying it anymore. I really don't give a flying fuck whether there are chemtrails or whether we end up in FEMA camps...who cares? Just a storyline.

What pisses me off is the fact that I'm not "in the driver's seat". That there is some robotic or sick and twisted fuck of a being controlling the script and my scenes.

I'm looking to hear from others about what or whom they feel controls this illusion and the script.

Not looking for a discussion about whether this illusion is scripted or not.

Not looking for some mind control games by shilltards.

Not looking for a psych evaluation from amateurs who have their own mental problems

Was Descartes correct that some evil aliens are controlling this illusion?

Like I said I believe it's an expanded self that is robotic and "poops out" scenes and feels nothing about what I experience. But I can never know for sure.

The fucker sure likes to dangle "carrots" out there to get me going down "rabbit holes"..that's for sure...

The storyline sure doesn't interest me anymore...could care less about conspiracy shit or mainstream shit...'cause it's all shit...just more "TRAPS" the PC (Program Controller) is dishing out

And please no posts from arrogant condescending assholes who think they know for 100% anything...just your THEORIES because let's face it that's all we have!

I'm gonna read responses and not respond probably for awhile just 'cause I wanna read people's thoughts is all

Thanks!
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When we are not in the trance we are not sad or suffering, we are laughing as we know none of it is real.
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Are you out of the trance?

Do you spend your whole time laughing then? It must hurt after a while.

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Breaking Out!

You’re either in the trance and don’t see what’s really going on, or you’re out of the trance state. Once you’re out, the perception of what the trance entails increases with every question posed, and the awareness keeps solidifying. The memory of the trance exists even when you see through the scam and deceit. This is because the new freedom state of existence is non-dimensional and no suggestion has ever been implanted to cause you to forget what was experienced in the trance state. The reason for this is that none of us we’re supposed to get out the trance, ever! The luciferian egregore were certain that the trance would hold.

If you comprehend that humanity is in a mass hypnotic trance, and that the whole 3D experience is an illusion that is perpetuated by a master egregore group hypnotic force, the luciferian mindset, then your trance has been
broken.

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When we are not in the trance we are not sad or suffering, we are laughing as we know none of it is real.
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Are you out of the trance?

Do you spend your whole time laughing then? It must hurt after a while.

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Breaking Out!

You’re either in the trance and don’t see what’s really going on, or you’re out of the trance state. Once you’re out, the perception of what the trance entails increases with every question posed, and the awareness keeps solidifying. The memory of the trance exists even when you see through the scam and deceit. This is because the new freedom state of existence is non-dimensional and no suggestion has ever been implanted to cause you to forget what was experienced in the trance state. The reason for this is that none of us we’re supposed to get out the trance, ever! The luciferian egregore were certain that the trance would hold.

If you comprehend that humanity is in a mass hypnotic trance, and that the whole 3D experience is an illusion that is perpetuated by a master egregore group hypnotic force, the luciferian mindset, then your trance has been
broken.

[link to illuminatimatrix.wordpress.com]
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The luciferian agenda is not concluding as long as the trance state continues. The only way to be free of the illusion is to reconnect to wisdom through awareness, which is the REAL AWAKENING, and the power of the lie, and the power of the illusion, is made of none effect. The illusion will persist but awareness will dissolve it’s persistence and the freedom and liberty of the Paradise State will eternally prevail. This awareness is all that has been missing for thousands of illusory years, and at any moment, anyone can reconnect and reclaim the Paradise State through this awareness. As awareness of what is transpiring is conveyed to those within the trance state, and as the illusion is recognized in totality, the futility of it’s impotent power to manipulate simply fades into NOTHINGNESS, which is the eternal state.

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