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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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Klaatu brother where are you?
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**The oh-so common non-dual sufferer** by Bentinho Massaro


Many non-dual fans turn their life into an unnecessary stretch of endless semi-acknowledged suffering. After all, the sufferer isn't allowed to have desires and act on them, or make changes in its circumstances, or even be passionate about something in the future, for that would be non-non-dual, right? Sad.

This is no more holy than to try and be a good gir...l or boy for your daddy and mommy. But now instead of wanting to look good in the eyes of daddy and mommy, it is in the eyes of the non-dual community and its teachers that have now nested themselves in your own mind, so that even when they are not looking, you believe you should be non-dually correct.

So we keep ourselves stuck, pretending that the highest way is the way where we just don't do anything about anything, and where we don't work WITH our desires. Rather, we work against them or dismiss them or suppress them, but pretend it is sacred to do so, and so we call it 'letting it be as it is'.

If you are suffering even a little bit, there is no real 'letting it be as it is'. Sometimes 'letting it be as it is' simply doesn't work through this avenue, and it can only truly come about through acting on your passions and desires first, because you're not always meant to let everything be as it is circumstantially.

If you have passionate desires raging within that are not just revolving around protecting yourself, but feel truly inspired, that bear with them a spark of excitement, of joy, of possibilities... then they have a very real purpose. They are a glimpse into your possible future. You should act on them if you wish to release the stuckness of being a non-dual sufferer and stop keeping it all in in the name of freedom.

Let it all out, and act on it with respect and integrity toward your environment and the beings in it.

Desires won't go away if they are genuine. We can keep suppressing them with non-dual BS, or we can start to open up to and listen to the natural impulse of life through which alone it creates anything whatsoever. All is made possible through desire alone.

Everything you see is the result of desire. Without desire, there wouldn't be creation. Thus, even The One, The Absolute, has desires. Why try to be more non-dual than The One? It's a fools game.

We were made in its image. Thus we desire, because we're meant to be vessels for creation, not just vessels for being witness to being stuck for 80 years with no real fulfillment and calling it 'enlightenment'.

Ask yourself, are you afraid to take action? Are you afraid to enter the play again? Are you afraid to have desires and have to face patience, success, failure, skillfulness, practice, and all of those experiences that come with being passionate about a change?

Be bold, be fearless, act with integrity and alignment. Don't stay where you are. Life never stays where it is. Flow.

You have my non-dual permission ;-).
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Being a 'fan' of something implies going around and around and creating a lot of wind! haha,
Seeing duality for what it is means an end to the endless cycles.

'Future' is nothing but an illusion.

Anyone who is truly awake and out of the trance doesn't give a rats ass what any community thinks, lol

Desires are not our own as our minds are not our own. They are fed to our brain to perpetuate the illusion.

It's not about 'enlightenment' it's about disconnecting by being in the present moment and reconnecting with Wisdom.
Enlightenment suggest having the light which is the 'lie' The lie is what we see all around us as fractured light. Jesus and Satan were both the lie bringer, the bright and morning star, the light (lie) of the world.

It's not a matter of being afraid, it's a matter of not wanting to continue with this charade. This 'whirled' is designed to be corrupt and to frustrate. If truly we had any power to create in 3D there would be perfection, peace, joy and freedom.

When we are not in the trance we are not sad or suffering, we are laughing as we know none of it is real.

Peace
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Like you are a fan of Klaatu?


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Klaatu brother where are you?
[link to jedmckenna.webs.com]

lmao
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popcorn
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This your blind spot, blind spot
It should be obvious, but it's not.
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Klaatu... where are you?

[link to jedmckenna.webs.com]
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Lo! I am come to autumn,
When all the leaves are gold;
Grey hairs and golden leaves cry out
The year and I are old.

In youth I sought the prince of men,
Captain in cosmic wars,
Our Titan, even the weeds would show
Defiant, to the stars.

But now a great thing in the street
Seems any human nod,
Where shift in strange democracy
The million masks of God.

In youth I sought the golden flower
Hidden in wood or wold,
But I am come to autumn,
When all the leaves are gold.
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bump
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Oh, shut up and eat your bun.
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"He walks amongst us, but he is not one of us."
pool
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Never give your power away; never sell it or change it, let it soar.
"The earth is mother of us all, for she is just; but you, because you are unjust have pretended that she is your mother alone; and if you do not stop, I will not permit you to remain upon her."

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Never give your power away; never sell it or change it, let it soar.
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I know now.
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"He walks amongst us, but he is not one of us."
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Gooble gobble, Gooble gobble

We accept you, we accept you

One of us, one of us
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They got missiles whomever they are.

Let's continue anyway
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They got missiles whomever they are.

Let's continue anyway
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Do we have to?
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So my question for you is WHO or WHAT do you think controls this illusion?


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These people do....



why? Because its all a giant chess game....

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I have a crazy belief that facebook can somehow read peoples minds. This happens all the time, but if I see someone IRL who is on my facebook list, they will show up a day or so later on the friends preview on my profile. The same thing happens if I just think about someone on FB, they show up shortly after and stay on my profile page for a while.

I can totally relate to feeling that my life is scripted and that many things that I really want seem unreachable, while others get what I want handed to them. I'm reaching a point now where my attitude is just 'sod it', if I'm not going to get what I want in life then I'm not going to contribute and I'll just coast along and focus on the little comforts.
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Yes that is me.
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I have a crazy belief that facebook can somehow read peoples minds. This happens all the time, but if I see someone IRL who is on my facebook list, they will show up a day or so later on the friends preview on my profile. The same thing happens if I just think about someone on FB, they show up shortly after and stay on my profile page for a while.

I can totally relate to feeling that my life is scripted and that many things that I really want seem unreachable, while others get what I want handed to them. I'm reaching a point now where my attitude is just 'sod it', if I'm not going to get what I want in life then I'm not going to contribute and I'll just coast along and focus on the little comforts.
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Whatever the force is it is a child playing childish games. A control freak. A manipulator. A deceiver. The only truth is that this world is a LIE. This world is "light world"...a world of LIES. If the force was a God it wouldn't need to control, manipulate and deceive so much. If the force was a Higher Self then when you'd get to where I am you would be guided and helped. Nope the force that controls this world is a pathetic force. It only deceives those that are caught up in the can-dies in this can-die-store. I no longer am interested in the can-dies so it controls those around me trying to manipulate me. It plays with my finances so I can't support myself. It's powerless because it can't control me. It only controls those around me who can't truly SEE. It ONLY controls those still in character role. If you still identify with your given name you are still controlled. The force needs to be destroyed.
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So my question for you is WHO or WHAT do you think controls this illusion?


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1316209

These people do....



why? Because its all a giant chess game....


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I'll watch the videos. My policy now is to not trust anything but I'll watch. The force presents all sorts of bullshit. In fact everything presented in this world is lies, manipulation, deception and bullshit. The force is always controlling and manipulating everybody. When it no longer controls you then it uses those around you in an attempt to control and manipulate you. It's a fucking liar and deceiver. Don't trust anything.
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The only way out of this world is by TRANCE-ENDING all of the ILL-U-SIONS pre-sent-ed. Only then can U truly SEA.
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The only way out of this world is by TRANCE-ENDING all of the ILL-U-SIONS pre-sent-ed. Only then can U truly SEA.
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OR try and get back into character mode?
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The only way out of this world is by TRANCE-ENDING all of the ILL-U-SIONS pre-sent-ed. Only then can U truly SEA.
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OR try and get back into character mode?
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I don't think that's possible LOL. Once you "leave the cave" there is no going back in I'm afraid

This process I have gone through just happened and I did nothing to start it (not that I'm aware of).

It's not like one day I just decided "hey I'm gonna step out of my character role"



Did Truman in Truman Show movie wanna stay on the island? Nope. He was looking for the way out.

Truman wanted to leave but Christophe was willing to kill Truman to force his agenda on Truman..to force him back onto script

Christophe represents the force that controls everybody in this world. It wants you to remain on script. It's a control freak.

That's why you hear people say "Let go and let God" or "Let go and surrender"..I bought into that crap for awhile until I real eyes'd that that's just the force wanting to control me in every way.

People have the delusion of free will but they're completely controlled and scripted A to Z

When you are in your character role (EGO) that's when you can't SEE. The force controls the character role (EGO) and the force controls the emotions and the thoughts. Once you step out of character role (EGO) you can see how the force controls everyone who is in EGOic character role. Since I'm no longer in character role (EGO) it can NOT control me. It can only control those around me and my finances and nothing else.

Truman in Truman Show saw the force that controls this world for what it is. He wanted off the island.

Mr. Murdoch saw the force for what it is in Dark City movie. He just made another world since there was nowhere to go .

This world is a LIE-GHT projection. Meaning everything is backasswards. LIE-ght means dark and dark means LIE-ght.

Anyways no going back to character role and really once you SEE things you don't wanna go back
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Oh yeah. In the Matrix movie the agents moved from one body to the next right? Well that's the force that I've seen take over people and I can see how it controls them A to Z. Scripting is so obvious..

That's why the stuff about Luciferian Egregore resonated to a degree...shadow alien thoughtforms which relates to the videos someone posted above. These shadow alien thoughtforms would be the force that controls this world and also controls those in the storyline who have been in power.

If you are in your character role (EGO) or you resonate with your given name still you won't even be aware that you're controlled by this force and you won't see it in others.

Basically the force is the matrix and can be called by many names.
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Basically the force is the matrix and can be called by many names.
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The only way out of this world is by TRANCE-ENDING all of the ILL-U-SIONS pre-sent-ed. Only then can U truly SEA.
 Quoting: OP 34866753


OR try and get back into character mode?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34440824


I don't think that's possible LOL. Once you "leave the cave" there is no going back in I'm afraid

This process I have gone through just happened and I did nothing to start it (not that I'm aware of).

It's not like one day I just decided "hey I'm gonna step out of my character role"



Did Truman in Truman Show movie wanna stay on the island? Nope. He was looking for the way out.

Truman wanted to leave but Christophe was willing to kill Truman to force his agenda on Truman..to force him back onto script

Christophe represents the force that controls everybody in this world. It wants you to remain on script. It's a control freak.

That's why you hear people say "Let go and let God" or "Let go and surrender"..I bought into that crap for awhile until I real eyes'd that that's just the force wanting to control me in every way.

People have the delusion of free will but they're completely controlled and scripted A to Z

When you are in your character role (EGO) that's when you can't SEE. The force controls the character role (EGO) and the force controls the emotions and the thoughts. Once you step out of character role (EGO) you can see how the force controls everyone who is in EGOic character role. Since I'm no longer in character role (EGO) it can NOT control me. It can only control those around me and my finances and nothing else.

Truman in Truman Show saw the force that controls this world for what it is. He wanted off the island.

Mr. Murdoch saw the force for what it is in Dark City movie. He just made another world since there was nowhere to go .

This world is a LIE-GHT projection. Meaning everything is backasswards. LIE-ght means dark and dark means LIE-ght.

Anyways no going back to character role and really once you SEE things you don't wanna go back
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OP, consider the possibility that the "leaving the cave" act is also just another character role
grinning
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Consider the lilies
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Basically the force is the matrix and can be called by many names.
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I'll check it out when I can watch video

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