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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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OP goes into ghetto and no longer having sex and Trinity changes his name to Ghetto Monk.

OP says going into mountains now Ghetto Monk says he's going camping. [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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OP is Trinity?
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What is language? What is math? What gives shape to matter? What is light? What is darkness? What is good and evil and why do they both coexist?Who are we and where do we come from? What makes this world of atoms and elements solid? Is there an underlying force at hand? What is the definition of a word called Love? Why am I me?

Language is a fundamental tool used every day to describe things and to organize thoughts into a coherent reference.
There are many languages but when one sees the universal truth they say the same thing.
A tree is a tree but in another language it still is what it is.
Math is a way of measuring things and allows one to figure out a bigger picture in a shorter amount of time.

Math and language go hand in hand with Geometry. There are many angles and shapes in geometry but there are certain lessons one must learn in geometry such as the flower of life and sacred geometry.

Sacred geometry is what makes up the physical universe.
its shapes are the building blocks of life.

Light shines bright in the darkest of times to guide oneself or others to a higher truth.
Darkness tries to hide the light but it can not extinguish the light.
Good is something that is in tune with the spirit of the matter of truth and love of mother earth and all earthlings. Plants, animals, fish, birds, mammals, and minerals. Even atoms.
Evil tries to own things and claim them as theirs rather than allowing them to be what they are. It is cunning because out of necessity one can be tricked into doing bad things against mother earth in the name of progress such as deforestation polluting waters, taking more than one needs and also hording and wasting things for the sake of profits.

Good is a state of being that can be born from evil. It is funny to think that way but in that is hope. When the light goes on in the darkness of ones mind/soul/heart one understands the connectedness of all things and has enlightenment and turns away from self defeating beliefs and turns towards a greater vision of hope for the future and takes responsibility for their actions.

It is all a part of the growing experience here in this place called earth.
because it works on developing the spirit through trials and errors to learn to overcome through experience and humility/humbleness the darkness is the root of something that strives to reach the light/height and grows.

with out the darkness things would not change and change is necessary to grow ones spirit.

We are spiritual beings having a human experience. We come from the heart and mind of the Great spirit that created all things.

We are children of " God " [if that word could sum up what is meant by great spirit].

When we look to the past we can see the connections to words and to man and to all things.
in every atom there is life. It is a promise from " God " this experience called life.
we have DNA and they are spirals of energy and they are the building blocks of life.
It is a source code for every thing that is.
all that ever was and ever will be can be found in DNA.
then what is earth and the planets and the stars and further out the galaxies and universes?

here we see the platonic solids come to life. Different shapes are making up the air we breath the water we drink the ground we walk on the fire that warms us and gives light via the sun.

these are all connected.

Then there is also the elements and how they are made.

these building blocks create and digest and excrete and repeat all the time to keep the tree of life alive.
We as guardians are here to make sure that the garden is well taken care of and protected from the dark forces who are lost in their ignorance and nastiness to the truth.

Also we must guide and protect the innocent whom are somewhat " stupid " but not in a detrimental way just not fully mature enough to understand their role in the kingdom.

when we look at it the word SIN is comprised of Stupid Ignorant Nasty.

But there is hope. There is an underlying hand involved and that is from the great spirit.
It is divine intervention. There is and always will be free will but when one reaches enlightenment and sees the truth there is a new connection made between man and the great spirit. This connection takes away the darkness and gives the one who has overcome the darkness a new hope and purpose.
So when one says they love someone what do they mean by it? I have often asked in my ignorance days if you loved us so much why do you allow so much pain and suffering God?
That's the kicker, It is through our suffering and overcoming of fear and pain and regret that we learn the first rule to love God and to love our self. Once this is obtained we are now ready to meet the person we are meant to be with. [providing they are ready for us too ] We first must forgive our self and God for our own limited understandings of Love. For love is a word that can never describe the true meaning of itself.
So because of free will and SIN it is hard to understand the love of God.
But it is a learning process. We are not hear for a long time in one body yet the atoms that make up our body are very very old. and there are so many of them.
Thought the trials of the heart one learns to overcome the darkness within and to shine the light and love of hope into the lives of all they meet along their path.

Now speaking of paths...Did you every wonder why you were born? Did you every try to understand the names that were placed on you at your birth? The dates of things the timing of things? Why are you who you are?

a simple answer could be this

Know thy self.

so why am i me? I am me because that is the most important person i came here to find and get to know.
I can not see myself by looking outside myself
It was when i closed my eyes and stopped all movement and just relaxed and did nothing that i found my center.
When i found it i had rested in it for some time and found the way back to it at will.

I did not look outside myself for truth but found truth within me and by sharing and receiving i gained many life lessons in one life time.

The story is a song sung by all life
singing Eternally.
for those who have ears listen
for those who have eyes see

STARS
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The world is in you, as much as you are in the world. Beautiful, short little film about the nature of our perception, which is what we take to be reality, from Science and Non-Duality. All our myths and stories from the past few thousand years try to explain the nature of the parts, when the truly monumental question is the nature of the whole. Call it what you will.
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Thanks to you idiots who chased OP away!

Now we get to listen to village idiot (Boba in Spanish) named STARS (dingbat)
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Never forget, no matter what happens in your life, you have the power of choice.

The hardest concept to ever remember, but the one probably worth the most.
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Thanks to you idiots who chased OP away!

Now we get to listen to village idiot (Boba in Spanish) named STARS (dingbat)
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was is something i said?
I can change.....
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Thanks to you idiots who chased OP away!

Now we get to listen to village idiot (Boba in Spanish) named STARS (dingbat)
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was is something i said?
I can change.....
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Cool discussion OP!
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The OP is not at all happy with the discussion here because the egotistical asshole cannot control it.
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i think OP needs to lighten up and become enlightened.

Laughter is good medicine.



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Thanks to you idiots who chased OP away!
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Perhaps it's what the OP wanted.

He's been threatening to leave the thread (and internet) for about a year. Maybe he needed a helping hand?
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Thanks to you idiots who chased OP away!

Now we get to listen to village idiot (Boba in Spanish) named STARS (dingbat)
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We're all looking from the point of view of our own reality tunnels. And when we begin to realize that we're all looking from the point of view of our own reality tunnels, we find that it is much easier to understand where other people are coming from.

All the ones who don't have the same reality tunnel as us do not seem ignorant, or deliberately perverse, or lying, or hypnotized by some mad ideology, they just have a different reality tunnel. And every reality tunnel might tell us something interesting about our world if we're willing to listen.
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OP is probably laughing.

Enjoy the STARS boba.

You got your wish.

lmao
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OP is probably laughing.

Enjoy the STARS boba.

You got your wish.

lmao
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The problem with closed minded people is that their mouth is always opened..

It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.

If the OP " chose " to leave or if he " chooses " to come back, makes little difference to me because of his inability to relate properly.

I have been conversing with OP on another forum and after trying to see what his objective was, it dawned on me that he was hypocritical and closed minded at best.

He had suggested to come here on a thread at another place that i liked so i came to see what was here.

your Ad hominem attack of my character and your lack of reasoning means little to me.

For those interested in what i had to offer on the subject, i hope that you found it entertaining and refreshing.

Stars
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The ones behind the people, who make accurate predictions.
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You STARS boba only SPAM this thread.

Why do you think 110,000 people are reading this thread?

For OP. Not for your SPAM!
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Thanks to you idiots who chased OP away!

Now we get to listen to village idiot (Boba in Spanish) named STARS (dingbat)
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We're all looking from the point of view of our own reality tunnels. And when we begin to realize that we're all looking from the point of view of our own reality tunnels, we find that it is much easier to understand where other people are coming from.

All the ones who don't have the same reality tunnel as us do not seem ignorant, or deliberately perverse, or lying, or hypnotized by some mad ideology, they just have a different reality tunnel. And every reality tunnel might tell us something interesting about our world if we're willing to listen.
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clappa
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You STARS boba only SPAM this thread.

Why do you think 110,000 people are reading this thread?

For OP. Not for your SPAM!
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bsflag

they are seekers

that is why
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OP of this discussion now on another forum permanently which is heavily moderated and doesn't allow trolls:

GOOGLE: Updated Free Your Brain site by piece_of_nothing

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This thread's here on GLP is better without the OP.
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OP,

What you say is 100% truth.

Don't come to this discussion anymore.

You are talking only to the bots

There are not many of us real ones.

I will attempt to email you.

Hopefully you read this.
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It's the OP's truth... currently at least.

You agree with it 100%?


Anyway, does objective truth even exist?
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yes it does.
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Thanks to you idiots who chased OP away!

Now we get to listen to village idiot (Boba in Spanish) named STARS (dingbat)
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We're all looking from the point of view of our own reality tunnels. And when we begin to realize that we're all looking from the point of view of our own reality tunnels, we find that it is much easier to understand where other people are coming from.

All the ones who don't have the same reality tunnel as us do not seem ignorant, or deliberately perverse, or lying, or hypnotized by some mad ideology, they just have a different reality tunnel. And every reality tunnel might tell us something interesting about our world if we're willing to listen.
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clappa
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great reference thanks
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Dav,

I have something for you.

Remember when we were talking yesterday, and I said all those mean things about numbers not meaning anything? It's quite the opposite.. numbers and geometry mean a lot, and I quite wish I had the mastery of them that you show. But, trick is, that's what you're there for.. you're, as it were, the fountain from which awareness can come, however it wishes, and I may be able to make sense of it. In the context of that, I've been thinking about what you said once, 'The meaning of life is speed', which I recall you thought after a long experience of madness.. and this is what it means:

The meaning of our current earthly life, of any earthly life, is to find the way to do what you have to do in the easiest way possible. To overcome matter. To learn to cut trees, say, 20 at a time, so that matter is no longer an obstacle. Once that's done, one must ask, What is the purpose of life? And the answer to that is balance. To be one with divinity. So perhaps one's able to cut trees 20 at a time, but shouldn't, one should instead learn to cultivate them (200 at a time!). Our words are often fuzzy.. I have a personal system where they all make sense, but others may not understand it the same way. I would say, though, and this is publishable, that the meaning of life is balance at speed, design. If you want, I can provide the balance, and you provide the fuel, hehe.. Thus we will have Concorde, agreement, like the really fast passenger plane, able to carry much and do it with amazing style and achievement. I know it sounds crazy, but life actually is that way.. and all the very best people are somewhat crooked in the head. What we do right, though, is to have a powerful heart. With that, you can do anything.

Eager to hear what you may think,

-AZ



you have such a gift with words AZ

no two things are the same, even if they appear to be at the surface. An open mind, and a pure heart [ by that i mean child like desire to know with out fear or judgment] is critical in achieving this. Working together by learning to unlearn we can then put a bigger picture together and expand our awareness not only for the self but with those as saxon referred to of like mind/heart. In the process of tearing down old or outdated beliefs/concepts, we can learn new ways that encompasses more of a deeper connection to what is. Thus, we learn to unlearn in order to learn and repeat the process.

Some are faster than others at this, [speed], but in my heart i feel that the more this process is done, the better the picture is, the more people will be able to relate and join in on the wonders and beauty of wisdom and truth, hopefully leading to solutions rather than conformity.
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Now I get it all.
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The ones behind the people, who make accurate predictions.
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He who controls the past controls the future.
He who controls the present controls the past.
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to be empty of thought yet full of wisdom, we need to fill our minds again and again discarding what is no longer useful and drink up what is.
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What people can think and argue about in all this is wholly unimportant; what you can or cannot experience is what is truly important. We have to get the emphasis off of philosophy, religion and occult socializing and on to the path of real experiencing.
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What people can think and argue about in all this is wholly unimportant; what you can or cannot experience is what is truly important. We have to get the emphasis off of philosophy, religion and occult socializing and on to the path of real experiencing.
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The extent of this simulation was to take the electron's from the vacuum of a TV's static on channel 3 and through the rainbow bridge based on 4 precisely placed speakers hooked up two in the center with left and right hooked up to channel A and two on the outside facing in with the positive of the right going into one speaker from the channel B and a wire connecting the other speaker through the negative and the other positive left To channel B left thus not hooking up the ground wire to the amplifier but rather creating a ground loop.

in the center is a glass of water.

Place a root of a tree in it.
enclose between TV and make a seal two speakers face towards the tv right and left stereo A
two on the ends facing in with right on on the right and left on the left stereo B with only the positives for each left and right of channel B going into the speakers and the negative lines joined with one wire.
The words of strength form the gate of heaven. With its two possible uses there are two groupings, the dark tower, with each on top of the other, and the bright tower, with all side by side to the source.
it forms the ground loop otherwise it would be a bottomless pit
be mindful thou that we are already in this to begin with.

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this is a pretty wild theory


www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrP_hr_ZRdA&feature=related

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" Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves. Here’s Tom with the weather "

the speakers i used had a 12 inch woofer and a mid range and a high hat

it formed a magnetic bridge or Rainbow on the screen as the electron's on the screen flowed.

time works weird to me its like it goes backwards.


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there is a very thin magnetic wall to the universe

outside it beyond the 3rd dimension is the white light of unconditional love

the depth of my soul was the journey and path i walked in order to become whole.

The intent is most important as it must be from the heart of LOVE

anything that is not of that intent is a spiral down into the depths of your soul.

I must give warning that what i have been through in order to manifest this was very difficult.

at different times it really broke me in two



be the change you want to see in the world

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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there, like a splinter in your mind, driving you mad. It is this feeling that has brought you here. Do you know what I'm talking about?

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And if it is not of a good intent thinking of a horror experience of hell

very scary so do not do this please

after talking with Michael and explained what i had done in order to become whole again he said Do Not Go Back there

he also called me innate which i took as a compliment.

but to stress the suffering of that place i went to down there on my journey to become whole the thought to be impossible journey of the one in one life.... i will share this link to stress what the fear of it feels like.

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"The only thing that burns in hell, Is the part of you that won't let go of your life. Your memories, your attachements, They burn'em all away. But they're not punishing you he said,... They're freeing your soul."

"If your frightened of dying, and your holding on. You'll see devils tearing your life away. If you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels,... Freeing you from the earth."




thinking of the experiment and the heaven within
thinking of Jacobs ladder
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the vision is the path to something
it is not the objective
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i have heard it said that the past is gone and that we should not dwell in it.

I agree that staying stuck in the past is not a good thing but without our past we would never learn and grow from experience.

so after long consideration...

I have decided i am not going to live in the past any longer so if i owe you money i am sorry.

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Careful with the mind/ego trap. Searching for lessons in illusion is a highly questionable activity. lol

See what I mean? People read stuff and they take it on as belief and then they regurgitate it or parrot the beliefs and don't really question it anymore.

I've had experiences and I'm continuing to have those experiences over and over again which is pointing to a scripted illusion.

Best to distrust what is thrown at you in this illusion because it is like the "pide piper" leading me down another "rabbit hole"
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Personally I believe in aliens and like us they have very little relevance, significance or consequence as organisms in the greater or smaller illusions/realities of the cosmos, except perhaps the desire and ability to potentially explore, experience, understand and then control things beyond ourselves and the realms we exist in (whether illusionary or not). I also feel that like all life we serve no real purpose except in being a living manifestation, but it keeps me amused all the same. If your current theory is that evil aliens are controlling your/our reality and paradigm then yes I agree it’s a pretty good theory, but perhaps my worry is that humanity has always tried to invent things bigger than ourselves when we don’t have answers to our problems and situation. But I appreciate that alien are far more plausible theory than gods(or perhaps they are one and the same?), but I doubt if they have full control over the Earth script. Because control is often very illusive and fleeting, Even using powerful human examples of history most empires or systems break up because they become to big and unwieldy to manage at the macro level. There again perhaps our dreams and computer games now manifest new paradigms elsewhere?...the truth is, you me and everyone else might have to accept we are only program code on a kids XBOX..whether you mind or not is the issue
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Just writing to apologise because I realise I have missed the point of your request entirely, and just gone off on one - sprouting a lot of meaningless crap, but I'm interested because the is something wrong about life which does not feel right on many levels.

However I want to confirm what you mean by scripted.
Do you mean you feel that life is being remotely scripted live - on a day to day basis - like that truman show film, or completely pre-written and programmed in advance from universe origin to conclusion? As they both have fundementally different potential causes, consequences and connotations. The first would be a process of deliberate external interferance and manipulation, but the second would imply some kind of deeper universal truth, fate or science based mechanism, if you get my drift? If its the former concept then you should also consider and include human interferance and also (sorry to say) an internal reflex response to the modern life which in the UK see's every town and city now cloned with the same shops and franchised restaurants and usual mind sets and conversations - sorry but we are changing in response to our environment, but appreciate you have rejected that theory.
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I'm saying it's scripted as in the 911 storyline happened because it was scripted to happen.

I'm saying when you veer off course the PC will force you or steer you back on script. You won't have a choice.

I can see how when I think, say, believe or take certain actions how I'm forced or steered in another direction.

The free will stuff is absolute bullocks!

It's possible that the only free will involved is what color socks I choose today but maybe even my thoughts are not my own.

Get my drift?
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The "Way" is simply that "climb" to the top of the Mountain where resides our God of Love, our Creator, with said "climb" always putting the climbing spirit to task.

To see the Way, simply look through the looking glass of Love to all other things in regards to those things such that they work together to increasingly manifest Love. In that will you see the seven spirits of God.

Therefore, is it more difficult to daily polish a plow to a brilliant dazzling shine or to take that same plow, tie it to a horse and break ground such that many are fed while also maintaining that plow befitting that service?

Also, who is more challenged, a man who decides his body to be "evil", therefore "denying" himself many things, or the man who embraces his body and in balance masterfully puts said body to the task of taking a wife, having and feeding children and therefore becoming a Loving father to many?

Which is more difficult, to climb a Mountain or to walk down a Mountain?

Which is more difficult, to Love or ignore?

For you see, the Way to godhood is not in rejecting those things with which to build your family of Love, but rather in embracing those things, and in doing so then can one balance their spirit and their body to ride freely in that chariot of the Mind pulled swiftly by that Horse of Heart

the Way is seen by looking through the looking glass of Love to all things manifest.

the meaning I am attributing to Love, with the full spectrum of Love covering most of the points you made in this post. The full spectrum of Love was pointed out by the 4 manifestations of such brought forth by the Greeks. Each of the following is something all spirits are tasked to develop within themselves. Such development requires all balanced aspects of the spirit in tandem.

• [size7]Agápe [/size](αγάπη agápē) means "love" in modern day Greek, such as in the term s'agapo (Σ'αγαπώ), which means "I love you". In Ancient Greek, it often refers to a general affection or deeper sense of "true love" rather than the attraction suggested by "eros". Agape is used in the biblical passage known as the "love chapter", 1 Corinthians 13, and is described there and throughout the New Testament as sacrificial love. Agape is also used in ancient texts to denote feelings for a good meal, one's children, and the feelings for a spouse. It can be described as the feeling of being content or holding one in high regard.

• [size7]Éros[/size] (έρως érōs) is passionate love, with sensual desire and longing. The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love;" however, eros does not have to be sexual in nature. Eros can be interpreted as a love for someone whom you love more than the philia, love of friendship. It can also apply to dating relationships as well as marriage. Plato refined his own definition: Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction." Plato also said eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth. Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth by eros. The most famous ancient work on the subject of eros is Plato's Symposium, which is a discussion among the students of Socrates on the nature of eros.

• [size7]Philia [/size](φιλία philía) means friendship in modern Greek. It is a dispassionate virtuous love, a concept developed by Aristotle. It includes loyalty to friends, family, and community, and requires virtue, equality and familiarity. In ancient texts, philos denoted a general type of love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between lovers.

• [size7]Storge [/size](στοργή storgē) means "affection" in ancient and modern Greek. It is natural affection, like that felt by parents for offspring. Rarely used in ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of relationships within the family. It is also known to express mere acceptance or putting up with situations, as in "loving" the tyrant.


as too wether or not a person loves... they must first master patience.

As the written scriptual def. The first thing Love is, is Patient.

soooo if a man or woman has not patience.. they can not truly love

An immature spirit is incapable of manifesting the entire Love spectrum, generally recognized as the manifestation of "Christ" Love. Christ is not a god or a person, but rather a "level" of Love "Being".

if a man or woman has not kindness... they can not truly love..


Love is a state of BEING which is reached through the 7 branches and 7 roots of the Tree of Life, a developmental "program" if you will. Many lives are required to develop a spirit to this level of Being.


The Angel of Wisdom---------Angel of Air-------wisdom/knowledge
The Angel of Peace----------- Angel of joy------Mental Balance Effort
The Heavenly Father --------- Earthly Mother-----Family Effort
The Angel of Love---------- Angel of Water------Love Effort, all aspects
The Angel of Power------- Angel of the Sun------Strength, Courage, Honor
The Angel of Creative Work------ Angel of Life------Sexual Balance Effort
The Angel of Eternal Life------ Angel of Earth-----Physical Body Life Effort


choosing to love someone is making a choice to be patient then kind. Irreguards to wether or not they return that back.. for LOVE is not selfish.

Real Love is indeed not selfish. The primary division between spirits here is made upon this point alone, the "givers v.s. the takers".


The "Mountain" of which I speak is the very Kingdom of Heaven at which pinnacle resides our Creator. The "climb" thereon is again the developmental aspects as presented above in regards to Love manifest in the realms presented.

The mountain is your entire live. They wind is how you live it. As the mountain is laid flat it covers a greater distance.. and that which is raised.. shall be brought low.. in the end of our life. we all are humbled or brought low.. by the wind.. how you live it...

the "Mountain" is indeed ones entire life, as all things exist within the Kingdom of God. Nothing exists outside of God who alone is "The Self Existent ONE".

The wind is only PART of how you live your life, as the other paths are outlined above. ALL of these aspects are to be BALANCED and brought to bear upon all aspects of one's spirit.

The objective in one's life is not simply to be "brought low", but rather to balance the "blows" of life with the "joys" of life so as not to exasperate and damage a spirit with too much abuse. Too many blows to a spirit can drive it into a very vicious bitter spiral if one is not careful.

the very Creation Herself "weighs" the Heart of a spirit against the ability of that Heart to manifest the entire spectrum of Love as detailed above. How one lives is EVERYTHING as Love is manifested to those surrounding said spirit by THAT spirit.

As well, the maturity level of a spirit "destines" the Love path of that spirit in accordance with the current ability of that spirit. An immature spirit always makes for poor husbands, fathers, wives, mothers etc. But such is the developmental profile for the maturing of spirits. A missionary helping the poor is far easier than being a good husband and father and is used to bring a spirit to the point that they are able to give of themselves in those greater capacities.

The "word of God" is that of Love in the ways detailed above, having nothing to do whatsoever with the "conquering" notions of the Bible. Those Truly "blessed" are those who apply themselves to the "narrow path" of advancing Real Love. All else is but a corruption of the Truth fashioned to put the good intentions of spirits at the command of dark spirits.

the way up the Mountain of Love is traveled by YOU. The supposed "free rides to the top" are nothing more than a ruse offered to stunt the growth of spirits and put the efforts of that spirit into the hands of the ruling dark spirits currently in power at the moment.

It matters in THE WAY a man lives verses what he does with what he is given.

A man who carries a peanut in his hand in this "race" while having a car unseen strapped to his back ,far outperforms the man outwardly carrying a seen boulder in his arms.

Disabilities here equate to return multipliers in the spiritual realm. The TRUE "greats" of this realm are not the braying pampered asses bellowing from the TV screens, but rather those overcomers who offer up life "performances" which are equal to those with no afflictions. The spirit realm "multipliers" of this realm are largely misunderstood by most here.


Sex is meant to be the HANDMAIDEN of Love, not the "Master" Herself as is so commonly thought these days. Turning that relationship between the two on its head was the primary MO used to attack the original Kingdom society.

The Way is HARD in ALL ways as detailed above so as to fully expand and establish the very BEING of a spirit. ALL of these pathways are specifically presented for the expansion of the spirit in EACH and ALL of those abilities as is necessitated for the full manifestation of Love in said spirit. Such in some books is likened to "Tuning" that "Love Song" of our Creator, that "Song" being one of the primary power vectors emanating from Him/Her. One of the other power vectors is the "Zero Point Energy" emanations.

Therefore, ones developed ability to "Tune" is yet another way of perceiving the maturity level of a given spirit.

GOD.....NEVER......calls upon a spirit to abandon their family, friends and children for the sake of "his will". Such notion is just more bastardization of the Truth so as to trick the many to relinquish their REAL destinies in life and put their efforts into the great vat of unwitting effort towards the ends of the dark spirits in control here. The so called "god" commanding such abuse is Set/Lucifer, plain and simple masquerading in garments of supposed "light".

Christ is NOT "someone followed", but rather a goal potentially attained by a spirit in regards to his/her ability to fully manifest the full spectrum of Love as detailed above.

Although Love OFTEN demands one to "deny" ones self, denial is NOT in and of itself a means to and end. The full spectrum of Love impacts a spirit in MANY different ways, some pleasant and full of good feelings, and others HARD and painful, in so doing "forging" up that spirit to greater capacity, much like "weight lifting" in the spiritual realm.

The "angel in the whirlwind" is Set/Lucifer, and in such does he "spin" the unsuspecting into a dizzy state of confusion with which he then assaults the world with hate and division under the guises of "love and light".

As for myself, I will be ALL things needed to Love in ALL ways, the captain of my OWN ship with Love as my God, and God as my Love. Let the wind blow where it will as ALL things are at the beck and call of the Mountain/Kingdom of God


From what you have described, you appear to be someone who has abandoned their True Life destiny for the whims and misdirection of a "scripted illusion" which has deceived you.


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