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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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Careful with the mind/ego trap. Searching for lessons in illusion is a highly questionable activity. lol

See what I mean? People read stuff and they take it on as belief and then they regurgitate it or parrot the beliefs and don't really question it anymore.

I've had experiences and I'm continuing to have those experiences over and over again which is pointing to a scripted illusion.

Best to distrust what is thrown at you in this illusion because it is like the "pide piper" leading me down another "rabbit hole"
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Personally I believe in aliens and like us they have very little relevance, significance or consequence as organisms in the greater or smaller illusions/realities of the cosmos, except perhaps the desire and ability to potentially explore, experience, understand and then control things beyond ourselves and the realms we exist in (whether illusionary or not). I also feel that like all life we serve no real purpose except in being a living manifestation, but it keeps me amused all the same. If your current theory is that evil aliens are controlling your/our reality and paradigm then yes I agree it’s a pretty good theory, but perhaps my worry is that humanity has always tried to invent things bigger than ourselves when we don’t have answers to our problems and situation. But I appreciate that alien are far more plausible theory than gods(or perhaps they are one and the same?), but I doubt if they have full control over the Earth script. Because control is often very illusive and fleeting, Even using powerful human examples of history most empires or systems break up because they become to big and unwieldy to manage at the macro level. There again perhaps our dreams and computer games now manifest new paradigms elsewhere?...the truth is, you me and everyone else might have to accept we are only program code on a kids XBOX..whether you mind or not is the issue
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Just writing to apologise because I realise I have missed the point of your request entirely, and just gone off on one - sprouting a lot of meaningless crap, but I'm interested because the is something wrong about life which does not feel right on many levels.

However I want to confirm what you mean by scripted.
Do you mean you feel that life is being remotely scripted live - on a day to day basis - like that truman show film, or completely pre-written and programmed in advance from universe origin to conclusion? As they both have fundementally different potential causes, consequences and connotations. The first would be a process of deliberate external interferance and manipulation, but the second would imply some kind of deeper universal truth, fate or science based mechanism, if you get my drift? If its the former concept then you should also consider and include human interferance and also (sorry to say) an internal reflex response to the modern life which in the UK see's every town and city now cloned with the same shops and franchised restaurants and usual mind sets and conversations - sorry but we are changing in response to our environment, but appreciate you have rejected that theory.
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I'm saying it's scripted as in the 911 storyline happened because it was scripted to happen.

I'm saying when you veer off course the PC will force you or steer you back on script. You won't have a choice.

I can see how when I think, say, believe or take certain actions how I'm forced or steered in another direction.

The free will stuff is absolute bullocks!

It's possible that the only free will involved is what color socks I choose today but maybe even my thoughts are not my own.

Get my drift?
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The "Way" is simply that "climb" to the top of the Mountain where resides our God of Love, our Creator, with said "climb" always putting the climbing spirit to task.

To see the Way, simply look through the looking glass of Love to all other things in regards to those things such that they work together to increasingly manifest Love. In that will you see the seven spirits of God.

Therefore, is it more difficult to daily polish a plow to a brilliant dazzling shine or to take that same plow, tie it to a horse and break ground such that many are fed while also maintaining that plow befitting that service?

Also, who is more challenged, a man who decides his body to be "evil", therefore "denying" himself many things, or the man who embraces his body and in balance masterfully puts said body to the task of taking a wife, having and feeding children and therefore becoming a Loving father to many?

Which is more difficult, to climb a Mountain or to walk down a Mountain?

Which is more difficult, to Love or ignore?

For you see, the Way to godhood is not in rejecting those things with which to build your family of Love, but rather in embracing those things, and in doing so then can one balance their spirit and their body to ride freely in that chariot of the Mind pulled swiftly by that Horse of Heart

the Way is seen by looking through the looking glass of Love to all things manifest.

the meaning I am attributing to Love, with the full spectrum of Love covering most of the points you made in this post. The full spectrum of Love was pointed out by the 4 manifestations of such brought forth by the Greeks. Each of the following is something all spirits are tasked to develop within themselves. Such development requires all balanced aspects of the spirit in tandem.

• [size7]Agápe [/size](αγάπη agápē) means "love" in modern day Greek, such as in the term s'agapo (Σ'αγαπώ), which means "I love you". In Ancient Greek, it often refers to a general affection or deeper sense of "true love" rather than the attraction suggested by "eros". Agape is used in the biblical passage known as the "love chapter", 1 Corinthians 13, and is described there and throughout the New Testament as sacrificial love. Agape is also used in ancient texts to denote feelings for a good meal, one's children, and the feelings for a spouse. It can be described as the feeling of being content or holding one in high regard.

• [size7]Éros[/size] (έρως érōs) is passionate love, with sensual desire and longing. The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love;" however, eros does not have to be sexual in nature. Eros can be interpreted as a love for someone whom you love more than the philia, love of friendship. It can also apply to dating relationships as well as marriage. Plato refined his own definition: Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction." Plato also said eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth. Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth by eros. The most famous ancient work on the subject of eros is Plato's Symposium, which is a discussion among the students of Socrates on the nature of eros.

• [size7]Philia [/size](φιλία philía) means friendship in modern Greek. It is a dispassionate virtuous love, a concept developed by Aristotle. It includes loyalty to friends, family, and community, and requires virtue, equality and familiarity. In ancient texts, philos denoted a general type of love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between lovers.

• [size7]Storge [/size](στοργή storgē) means "affection" in ancient and modern Greek. It is natural affection, like that felt by parents for offspring. Rarely used in ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of relationships within the family. It is also known to express mere acceptance or putting up with situations, as in "loving" the tyrant.


as too wether or not a person loves... they must first master patience.

As the written scriptual def. The first thing Love is, is Patient.

soooo if a man or woman has not patience.. they can not truly love

An immature spirit is incapable of manifesting the entire Love spectrum, generally recognized as the manifestation of "Christ" Love. Christ is not a god or a person, but rather a "level" of Love "Being".

if a man or woman has not kindness... they can not truly love..


Love is a state of BEING which is reached through the 7 branches and 7 roots of the Tree of Life, a developmental "program" if you will. Many lives are required to develop a spirit to this level of Being.


The Angel of Wisdom---------Angel of Air-------wisdom/knowledge
The Angel of Peace----------- Angel of joy------Mental Balance Effort
The Heavenly Father --------- Earthly Mother-----Family Effort
The Angel of Love---------- Angel of Water------Love Effort, all aspects
The Angel of Power------- Angel of the Sun------Strength, Courage, Honor
The Angel of Creative Work------ Angel of Life------Sexual Balance Effort
The Angel of Eternal Life------ Angel of Earth-----Physical Body Life Effort


choosing to love someone is making a choice to be patient then kind. Irreguards to wether or not they return that back.. for LOVE is not selfish.

Real Love is indeed not selfish. The primary division between spirits here is made upon this point alone, the "givers v.s. the takers".


The "Mountain" of which I speak is the very Kingdom of Heaven at which pinnacle resides our Creator. The "climb" thereon is again the developmental aspects as presented above in regards to Love manifest in the realms presented.

The mountain is your entire live. They wind is how you live it. As the mountain is laid flat it covers a greater distance.. and that which is raised.. shall be brought low.. in the end of our life. we all are humbled or brought low.. by the wind.. how you live it...

the "Mountain" is indeed ones entire life, as all things exist within the Kingdom of God. Nothing exists outside of God who alone is "The Self Existent ONE".

The wind is only PART of how you live your life, as the other paths are outlined above. ALL of these aspects are to be BALANCED and brought to bear upon all aspects of one's spirit.

The objective in one's life is not simply to be "brought low", but rather to balance the "blows" of life with the "joys" of life so as not to exasperate and damage a spirit with too much abuse. Too many blows to a spirit can drive it into a very vicious bitter spiral if one is not careful.

the very Creation Herself "weighs" the Heart of a spirit against the ability of that Heart to manifest the entire spectrum of Love as detailed above. How one lives is EVERYTHING as Love is manifested to those surrounding said spirit by THAT spirit.

As well, the maturity level of a spirit "destines" the Love path of that spirit in accordance with the current ability of that spirit. An immature spirit always makes for poor husbands, fathers, wives, mothers etc. But such is the developmental profile for the maturing of spirits. A missionary helping the poor is far easier than being a good husband and father and is used to bring a spirit to the point that they are able to give of themselves in those greater capacities.

The "word of God" is that of Love in the ways detailed above, having nothing to do whatsoever with the "conquering" notions of the Bible. Those Truly "blessed" are those who apply themselves to the "narrow path" of advancing Real Love. All else is but a corruption of the Truth fashioned to put the good intentions of spirits at the command of dark spirits.

the way up the Mountain of Love is traveled by YOU. The supposed "free rides to the top" are nothing more than a ruse offered to stunt the growth of spirits and put the efforts of that spirit into the hands of the ruling dark spirits currently in power at the moment.

It matters in THE WAY a man lives verses what he does with what he is given.

A man who carries a peanut in his hand in this "race" while having a car unseen strapped to his back ,far outperforms the man outwardly carrying a seen boulder in his arms.

Disabilities here equate to return multipliers in the spiritual realm. The TRUE "greats" of this realm are not the braying pampered asses bellowing from the TV screens, but rather those overcomers who offer up life "performances" which are equal to those with no afflictions. The spirit realm "multipliers" of this realm are largely misunderstood by most here.


Sex is meant to be the HANDMAIDEN of Love, not the "Master" Herself as is so commonly thought these days. Turning that relationship between the two on its head was the primary MO used to attack the original Kingdom society.

The Way is HARD in ALL ways as detailed above so as to fully expand and establish the very BEING of a spirit. ALL of these pathways are specifically presented for the expansion of the spirit in EACH and ALL of those abilities as is necessitated for the full manifestation of Love in said spirit. Such in some books is likened to "Tuning" that "Love Song" of our Creator, that "Song" being one of the primary power vectors emanating from Him/Her. One of the other power vectors is the "Zero Point Energy" emanations.

Therefore, ones developed ability to "Tune" is yet another way of perceiving the maturity level of a given spirit.

GOD.....NEVER......calls upon a spirit to abandon their family, friends and children for the sake of "his will". Such notion is just more bastardization of the Truth so as to trick the many to relinquish their REAL destinies in life and put their efforts into the great vat of unwitting effort towards the ends of the dark spirits in control here. The so called "god" commanding such abuse is Set/Lucifer, plain and simple masquerading in garments of supposed "light".

Christ is NOT "someone followed", but rather a goal potentially attained by a spirit in regards to his/her ability to fully manifest the full spectrum of Love as detailed above.

Although Love OFTEN demands one to "deny" ones self, denial is NOT in and of itself a means to and end. The full spectrum of Love impacts a spirit in MANY different ways, some pleasant and full of good feelings, and others HARD and painful, in so doing "forging" up that spirit to greater capacity, much like "weight lifting" in the spiritual realm.

The "angel in the whirlwind" is Set/Lucifer, and in such does he "spin" the unsuspecting into a dizzy state of confusion with which he then assaults the world with hate and division under the guises of "love and light".

As for myself, I will be ALL things needed to Love in ALL ways, the captain of my OWN ship with Love as my God, and God as my Love. Let the wind blow where it will as ALL things are at the beck and call of the Mountain/Kingdom of God


From what you have described, you appear to be someone who has abandoned their True Life destiny for the whims and misdirection of a "scripted illusion" which has deceived you.
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i am looking for evidence to show people, but it has to be revealed at the right time.

When she gives me evidence i will be able to post it. If its allowed.
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you around?

i tried looking up JILL at the bible wheel site to see if i might be able to find a connection to other words using the gematria of it but could not.

would like to learn more i found that idea to be quite interesting.
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What is JILL?
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IT HAS BEEN INTERESTING INTERACTING WITH YOU BOTS/CHARACTERS

IN THE FUTURE I WILL ONLY RESPOND TO SERIOUS POSTS FROM "NON-BOTS/NON-CHARACTERS"

THE REST OF YOU WILL BE IGNORED

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Against logic there is no armor like ignorance.




And there is no ignorance greater than ignorance of one self.

For Logically, if one knows himself,

he knows all that he can know.
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"The four doors of the mind

Perhaps the greatest faculty our minds possess is the ability to cope with pain. Classic thinking teaches us of the four doors of the mind, which everyone moves through according to their need.

First is the door of sleep. Sleep offers us a retreat from the world and all its pain. Sleep marks passing time, giving us distance from the things that have hurt us. When a person is wounded they will often fall unconscious. Similarly, someone who hears traumatic news will often swoon and taint. This is the mind's way of protecting itself from pain by stepping through the first door.

Second is the door of forgetting. Some wounds are too deep to heal, or too deep to heal quickly. In addition, many memories are simply painful, and there is no healing to be done. The saying 'time heals all wounds' is false. Time heals most wounds. The rest are hidden behind this door.

Third is the door of madness. There are times when the mind is dealt such a blow it hides itself in insanity. While this may not seem beneficial, it is. There are times when reality is nothing but pain, and to escape that pain the mind must leave reality behind.

Last is the door of death. The final resort. Nothing can hurt us after we are dead, or so we have been told..."

~Patrick Rothfuss - The Name of the Wind ~


4 doors

sleep
forgetting
madness
death

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Thanks so much GLP!

I'm banned!

I will no longer post on here.

Hahahaha

Perfect!

Goodbye all!

My email account is deactivated so I'm afraid none of you will be able to reach me.

Adios~

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sorry i thought the OP was somebody else that was posting, don't worry too much bans here are quite common.

please try again later.
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there is also verses that come out of the bible under the code name of jill.



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Hmm

after looking at this i see that it is a list of things that have the letter J at the start.
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i like that hf
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raccoon is also a big sync due to my last name...
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when the two become one then we are part of it and it is us

if this place is an illusion then what is it that drives me to become?

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hi op

if this is an illusion and there is no free will

and nothing here is real

then why are you still posting your ramblings?
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hi STARS from "other forum"

you are a bot and character attempting to use intellect/logic mind to get me involved with thoughts in my head

it won't work because my head is empty and no thoughts can gain access

didn't you threaten to kill yourself to gain sympathy on the other forum?

it didn't work though did it?

you have emotional highs and lows as demonstrated on the other forum. that's the nature of the "beast" that is controlling you

i suggest you post somewhere else because you are no match for me

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Manic

If only I could heal this wound of mine
This pain and pleasure I some times find
I drown my senses with cosmetic drugs
They make me feel irresistible to hug
Happy for the moment I forget to feel
Happy for the moment that nothings real
Drowning myself with drugs and sleep
I sometimes forget the secrets I keep
If I stop this drug my worst fears will persist
And if I don't, I feel like I will cease to exist
I can't escape this cycle I'm in
It is a situation with out win
The only way back is to let go
Yet I fight to hang on to what I know
The pain I feel inside my heart
Will not always be tearing me apart
And even though my heart my break
It loves beyond the point it aches
The only way to heal this wound of mine
Is to take it one day at a time
I will make it through this night
I will win this no win fight.
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i am looking for evidence to show people, but it has to be revealed at the right time.

When she gives me evidence i will be able to post it. If its allowed.
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you around?

i tried looking up JILL at the bible wheel site to see if i might be able to find a connection to other words using the gematria of it but could not.

would like to learn more i found that idea to be quite interesting.
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for those unfamiliar with gematria here is some research i have done put together...


Truth IS stranger than fiction




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ILLUMINATI OCCULT




The earliest documents (cir. 100-1000 A.D.) associated with Qabbalah describe the attempts of ``Merkabah'' mystics to penetrate the seven halls (Hekaloth) of creation and reach the Merkabah (throne-chariot) of God. These mystics used the familiar methods of shamanism (fasting, repetitious chanting, prayer, posture) to induce trance states in which they literally fought their way past terrible seals and guards to reach an ecstatic state in which they ``saw God.'' An early and highly influential document (Sepher Yetzirah) appears to have originated during the earlier part of this period



There is a link between Gematria and geometry

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looking at the math i found a link between the flower of life pattern and the name Jesus Christ in greek gematria

37x64
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For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect.

Hebrews 10.1

Scripture speaks of the difference between "shadows" and "substance". Mathematically, shadows are called projections. This idea helps a lot to understand Isaiah as a two-dimensional shadow of the three-dimensional Bible.


The reason for this is that Centered Hexagons are actually projections of three dimensional cubes onto a two dimensional plane:


This means that there is a geometric relation between Hexagonal Numbers and Cubes. Specifically, the figure above shows the geometric relation between the the Number 37 (Hokmah/Wisdom, from the heart of the Creation Holograph) and the Number 64 (Aletheia/Truth). Put another way, this means that

37-as-Hexagon (Wisdom) is a diagonal projection of 64-as-Cube (Truth)!

Great glory is seen in the divine design of the Name above all names - the matchless the name of the Almighty Creator of the Universe:

Jesus Christ

= 2368 = 37 x 64

The Lord's name is therefore the product of both the substance and shadow of the Truth. Praise His Holy Name!


King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
john 1:3
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the flower of life is a 2d 37 pattern and a 3d 64 pattern.

VERY INFORMATIVE please read link below


Debating Christianity and Religion
Is Jesus an historical character or a pythagorean allegory?


How can be Jesus an historical character if he incorporates the most important rule of the sacred geometry used by astronomers to measure and by architects to build: The Pythagorean Theorem?

As we know, the greeks and all the ancient people didn't have a separate number system, but they used the same letters of the alphabet to make calculations. So at every letter of the alphabet, corresponded a number, and every word had also a numerical value obtained adding the letters value. The greek gematria was called Isopsephy (see [link to en.wikipedia.org] )
It seems to me that just reading the gospels in greek and looking at the numerical values of the words and the names, makes evident that the name of Jesus encodes the sacred Pythagorean triangle: 3, 4, 5. The name Jesus Christ is like a riddle. Jesus and Christ are two of the three sides of a right triangle, and to solve the riddle you must find the third word, the lost word, that represents gematrically the third side of the triangle.

The solution is a phun in itself: a greek word that means "you have known", and that put together with the name of Jesus Christ, give this answer: "You have known Jesus Christ".


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A great source of information and i am far from done reading what it has to offer.

GEMATRIA

A Preliminary Investigation of The Cabala

contained in the

Coptic Gnostic Books

and of a similar Gematria in the Greek
text of the New Testament

SHOWING THE PRESENCE OF A SYSTEM OF TEACHING BY MEANS OF THE DOCTRINAL SIGNIFICANCE OF NUMBERS, BY WHICH THE HOLY NAMES ARE CLEARLY SEEN TO REPRESENT AEONIAL RELATIONSHIPS WHICH CAN BE CONCEIVED IN A GEOMETRIC SENSE AND ARE CAPABLE OF A TYPICAL EXPRESSION OF THAT ORDER.

BY
FREDERICK BLIGH BOND, F.R.I.B.A.
AND
THOMAS SIMCOX LEA, D.D.

First Published 1917


Annotated and Transcribed for the WorldWideWeb by Peter Wakefield Sault 2002-2003
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EPIGRAPH.

‘... numbers are the thoughts of God ... The Divine Wisdom is reflected in the numbers impressed upon all things ... the construction of the physical and moral world alike is based upon eternal numbers


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visual of what the platonic solids look like from the 3d flower of life matrix.


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According to gematria:

Moses = משה = 345

So in the Bible we have:

Exo 3:14 - And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.

MOSES name is 345
and God's name ("I AM THAT I AM" = אהיה אשר אהיה ) is 21+501+21 = 543

345-543

..god's secret name is the very mirror reflection of Moses name gematric value! The pythagorean triple 3, 4, 5 is then used as a symbol of a god-like man, having mastered the supreme law of mathematics. Another proof that Moses is not an historical character but a symbolic one.

And this is even better:

345+543 = 888 (greek gematria for Jesus, Ιησους)
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In the Cistercian abbey of Chiaravalle della Colomba (Italy) there are preserved the ancients tools of the christian masons and architects, and one of the most important tool was the so called "rope with twelve nodes" ("corda a 12 nodi" in italian), used to craft not only the 3: 4 :5 triangle but also the dodecagon and the equilater triangle, all incarnations of the holy 3: 4 :5 triangle. Even more interesting: the distance between the nodes was 52.36 cm, exactly the same of the egyptian divine or royal cubit.
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The gematria of Jesus is 888 and the Gematria of Christ is 1480. With those two numbers, applying the pythagorean theorem, you find the third number: 1184, that correspond gematrically to a very specific word: "εγνωκατε", that Jesus uses when he is referring to the act of knowing god:

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this was a response from a thread after i posted this.

'Puzzled
David, as much as I'd like to be able to understand what you are saying, it is just a bunch of symbols, numbers, and riddles to me. Is there an all powerful Creator or God, or do you believe you can somehow create your own reality and become God yourself? I would love to understand what you're trying to say, but could you say it in plain understandable English. If you can't say I'll have to assume your a Free Mason or some other sort of occultist, sworn to secrecy, for your own ego's sake. To each his own way.


There is a Creator God.
I like to use the word Great spirit to describe it.
To me God is unconditional LOVE in its purest form.

I am not a mason or an occultist but i have always understood math even from an early age.

I thought that I was God due to mental confusion via a mental illness known as schizo affective disorder. That condition is both schizophrenia and bi polar combined.

the symptom where one believes such as this is not uncommon.

Due to my mind making it real for me i had experiences that fueled this belief and at times it comes back with relapses.

The thing most do not know about me is that in order to do what i have done in my mind and heart it ripped me in two.

It feels like a very scary hell where i am subject to be put into submission to demons and evil things like i am a host for all things to manifest.
And at those times it is like everything that happens all the bad is my fault and then i feel so much pain and suffering as i take on hell and all that are in it.

Then this goes on for an eternity where i feel all the things that evil people do to innocents like being raped beaten murdered ect. ect.

Then at the last moment when i am broken I get to spend a day with God the father.

In his loving embrace i am filled with twice the love than the pain I have endured.

That day lasts 1000 years.

Then i wake up usually in the hospital with a very difficult time ahead of me because i have a hard time distinguishing reality from that place.

The thing is this has happened more than once for me

and each time it does the pain and suffering doubles and the love doubles to heal me.

it is quite scary.

that is what happens when i get sick.

They call it psychosis

and each episode when this happens alters the way i perceive time.

It is like having your subconscious become the conscious and vise verse.

This is the path I walk.


My writing skills are not that good i say too many words when few are needed.

But how i write is as if i am talking so that is how i try to communicate.

When i was 15 my mind was blank only knowing my first name. It took some years to gain my memories which i have done.

Some of the things that i have been through have been heart breaking things to have happen but it built my character.

When i was younger I rebelled and got involved with drugs and alcohol.

I used to think i could escape with drugs and alcohol but it too became a lie when my sorrows learned how to swim.

I am a light worker and by that i mean i program light shows via a digital multiplex universe using binary and hex commands through a type of batch file.

I have had visions where i was told i am a Son of God.

The things that i have been through and the faith i have had in my beliefs have given me an understanding of how i can see this world as being.

The ego i tore down and rebuilt with love and truth.

The thing is when i lost my sense of self i took on more than i bargained for because in order to understand oneself and others you must know thy self

What i have seen and experienced can be seen by others as being a symptom of my illness but to me i did experience it.

I think the world is real and that there are other things that are not.

But at times it gets confusing because my condition effects all of my senses and also my emotions.

as far as ones understanding of God

I would like to share this


Quoted from the book by Paul Twitchell "Stranger by the River"

I wish to declare the riddle of God to thee. It is most important that this be done. Listen closely and understand. The riddle of God is this.

God is what ye believe IT is. No man is wrong about the existence of God, and yet no man is right about his knowledge of God. There is no mystery in God except that IT is what soul believes that IT is. So the riddle is that: but all men will quarrel and argue about the greatness of God and their own knowledge of Him.

Yet every man is right in his knowledge of God. But does this mean that the drunkard is as right as the great minister who preaches from the pulpit? Yea, I say that he, the drunkard, is as much upon the path as the preacher is in his pulpit. Ah, but this is justified in thy thinking. Each in his own place according to his understanding, Ah, but there is the answer.

If the drunkard seeks God through his bottle, and it seems irreverent to speak of both in the same breath, then let it be. But I mean to tell ye that the seeking of happiness, be it on a material plane or spiritual plane is the seeking of God.The ideal of the drunkard is to become drunk and unconscious so he can forget all and dwell within himself in a state of happiness. The God-seeker wishes to become unconscious in a state of inner silence to forget all and dwell in a state of happiness within. What is the difference?

None I tell ye, for the drunkard may be closer to God than the God-seeker who with all his intensity for the SUGMAD ( GOD/ABSOLUTE BEINGNESS/INFINITE BEING) may drive it away. On the other hand, the drunkard will in his drunkenness forget himself, his selfishness, and false self, and it being this way, may have God\'s mercy granted him and lo, enlightenment comes.

Only two things pervade upon the seeker or the drunkard. Both must be interested in what they seek, be it God or selfish interest. Both must have concentrated upon what they are seeking, and in finding it must believe in it.

The only difference is usually of character and ideals. but who knows what thy fellowmen has in his heart unless his tongue or deeds reveal such? And such is the riddle of God. God will come to anyone who needs Him, regardless of what their state of character or ideals may be.

This is the riddle of God.


I have also a liking for this too

beginning the seven sacred paths of human transformation

on the first path, the east direction of the medicine wheel, we become illuminated and begin to see clearly that there is a purpose for our lives. We embrace a new form of clarity, which takes us beyond our former " what is life offering me"? perspective.

on the second path, the south direction , we learn to rise above childish human reactions, compulsions, and unhealthy emotions.

the third path, the west direction, teaches us how to heal our pasts, our bodies, and our self esteem.

on the fourth path, the north direction, we learn how to share the wisdom we have gained, as well as how to live with compassionate non judgmental hearts.

the fifth path is the above direction, where we embrace the unseen worlds of spirit, the heavenly realms, the unknown parts of the universe, and the intangible forces in creation.

the sixth path is below direction, where we learn how to perceive the unseen forces in the natural world and the connections to spirit existing in all living things, and we learn how to bring our own spirits fully into human bodies.

on the seventh path, the within or now direction, we learn how to gain access to all life in our universe within our own human body and to walk through life in a state of full spiritual awareness, without any separation or judgement

dancing the dream by jamie sams

what is there to do now?
now is the center of both heaven and hell

it is the axis point

questions are often answered in silence

look within and find the answers you seek

love is the answer to all things

there are 7 directions and the 8 is the space in which it moves

up
down
left
right
forward
back
center

and through

to be who you are is why you exist

know yourself
love yourself

accept limitations as building blocks to strength

what you see is what you get

in order to know love, you have to relate

family is relating

relativity

i was born

on a date

my parents were before me

and so forth

in the beginning was

i am here now

how long is infinity?

what is 1 day or 1 week or 1 life compared to 1 000 000 000 000 000 000

my answer is this

what comes after 99999999999999999999

it is always 1

i step

learn to crawl
learn to walk
learn to fly

love all life

we are all a creation of the creator

we are the way we are because this is a reference point

if i look to my fathers fathers fathers and mothers mothers mothers

all the way back

i live

my children some day will look back to me

one at a time one step at a time

but i know that my father is not me
and i am not him

same but different

he taught me the basics
it was tough lessons

but once learned

i became who i am

i am David

i will be here until i no longer exist

the state of my mater changes
i take in
i let go

i just am happy to breath and drink when thirsty
eat when hungry
cry when sad
laugh when happy

and smile and give thanks in my heart and mind through the actions of my soul (body) for the love that keeps me going

i am just a man after Gods heart
God is Love




Puzzled no more'
Sorry for all your struggles, but I'm no dummy. You say you're not a Mason or an occultist, but my experience is if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it usually a duck. Maybe one of your other personalities, is the Mason. It's not unusual for the children of these people to have been abused and have multiple personality disorder. If someone did this to you against your will, the Creator will not hold it against you. I will pray the Creator restores your mind to it's original, perfect state. You don't need any secret wisdom or knowledge to be a child of the Creator. Love life, love yourself, try to love your neighbor as yourself, and love the Creator. He will not reject you, nor does He expect you to be perfect. Peace and love.




do not judge a book by its cover
My struggles are something that i learn from.

I know that the creator loves me and all its creation

the creator is pure LOVE.

My mind has been restored.
Perfection is not the goal.

The things i took on were because of something that i had to go through at that time.

God did not do it to me but helped me through it by wiping my tears of it in the end.

Most of what i have been through is not much compared to what others suffer.

The pain i have endured i have tried to transform into a source of healing for others.

Being taught from the bible at an early age with out comprehending it twisted my mind for some time.

I have tried in my own way to come to terms with the bible and to learn as much as my heart can handle.

the king James bible is full of masonic stuff and most are unaware.

I have tried to shed a bit of light on the subject of Gematria and sacred geometry in hopes of helping others see a deeper meaning that is often hidden.

I think i do my best with what i am given to work with and when a mind gets shit to work with it has to be digested then excreted and what little food value is kept.

But i know universal truths

such as the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Although i posted a wall of text of esoteric information about the math and symbolism of the bible i recomend these videos


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its quite funny how so much information is hidden in plain sight

truly there are wolves in sheep's clothing guarding all the doors with a ferocious appetite

please do not judge me as being a multiple personality because i am not.

that is not what schizo affective is.

and do not feel sorry for me my life is good and i am loved.

what more can i ask for?



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here is what i meant by light worker
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Maya, the Magus, the Joker, and you.
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Hilarious you should say that. I have been given rather obscenely obvious messages about the magus, to make me THINK I might be such, when actually, other messages tell me I am the Joker. In other words, I am nothing.
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Maya, the Magus, and the Joker are one. They are three in one, and one in three. You are both the product, and the producer.

Again, don't listen to me, or even acknowledge me. I'm the shunned one.
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like your posts in this thread

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Thanks so much GLP!

I'm banned!

I will no longer post on here.

Hahahaha

Perfect!

Goodbye all!

My email account is deactivated so I'm afraid none of you will be able to reach me.

Adios~

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sorry i thought the OP was somebody else that was posting, don't worry too much bans here are quite common.

please try again later.
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You'll both either be banned for hijacking my thread or you'll be supported by your fellow bots. No matter you are providing an excellent example of the links I posted
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WOW. You're really desperate now OP.

and "MY THREAD"? Very egotistical.
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here is where the confusion set in.
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Your days are numbered because this world is about to go bye bye


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The nobody.

Why would one be a nobody?

perhaps its the letting go of the self and being one with all.

Yet at the same time not being more important than any one else.

Thus

a nobody.

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nothing is real
all is a dream
hear the children scream

so many prayers
so much in need
see the souls saved as he bleeds

what happens when
it happens again?
a week for a day
a day for a week

pray my soul
all yours to keep?

nobody knows the trouble im in
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you are Loved

Father can you help them to see
all they mean to thee
love is the key
to set them free
if only they too could see

all i am is but a moment in time
gone to the nothing i came from
You wanted to save us from hate
You took on more than even i could take
but it was no mistake

love
love
what has become of this?

i would die a countless death
to save the ones i love
to look beyond my simple life
so they too can reach the love above
love
love
it is all there is
love them father
teach them the meaning of it now
protect them from even themselves

if i can climb the mountains
if i can see the white lilies in the fields
and if i can lift my sorrows with love
what is this thing called love
but a shield
to protect you
to teach you
to save you
for you are loved
you are
love

all my love i share
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The nobody.

Why would one be a nobody?

perhaps its the letting go of the self and being one with all.

Yet at the same time not being more important than any one else.

Thus

a nobody.

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nothing is real
all is a dream
hear the children scream

so many prayers
so much in need
see the souls saved as he bleeds

what happens when
it happens again?
a week for a day
a day for a week

pray my soul
all yours to keep?

nobody knows the trouble im in
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for all the nobody's
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imagine you own everything

So you and your family have stuck together for a long time, maybe even teamed up with a few other families;; i mean a looooooong time, maybe two hundred years or 500 years or w/e maybe a million idc. So you stuck together and now everything is owned by someone you know. The factories, the banks, the politicians; basically you manfucature everything that everyone buys and uses, and everyone has bought so much of everything that you have all the money, there is no money left, because everyone spent it by being taxed to live inside your machine.
So what do you do? How can everyone use this system still in place? Money you say, keep giving them money;; so you print some money and pay for people to help run your world machine by being some kogs in it all, they recieve that money and then they spend it somewhere in your machine for something your machine produced, they are part of your machine.
This seems splendid, but wait; everyone had so many needs and desires that all the money ended up coming back to you, because the place you were living was owned by them, and the bills you paid were supplied by them so all your money had to go back to them so you could keep up with the work they supplied you with.
Woah, what now;; you own everything and have all the money, but you want everyone to stick around for a while to help you get around and do your laundry etc. You deffinitly don't want anyone to take your power away, kill you, or find the natural leader of the machine system, no that would be bad and you want to fly your jet to see your family over at a resort later.
So... you print more money to give to people in your machine so the machine can keep running. These people have desires which extend in all sorts of directions in your machine;; you have already made sure your machine can meet everyones needs in everyway possible, but only if it is by using your machine. You don't want people to have pleasure without paying you.
You even let them borrow money from you to comfort them when they realize that nothing is ever enough in life. You let them gather a large debt and find a way for that debt to belong to their bloodline. Everyone is so eager to borrow your money because nothing in your machine is never enough to satisfy them for all of time.
You exploit this, the concept of time; time is in your favor because you have access to the most information, the most pleasure, and the most power which can control how you and your will can move through time.
Everyone could not meet your debt demands, you are in good shape now; they have already died and their children have inherited massive trillion dollar debts, great! Next thing to do is make that number look as unfatomable as possible. Everyone has already spent all their money a few times over and again it has all come back to you!!! Congradulations, you have now gotten everyon and all the children they could ever have in your debt;;meaning legally you own them.
They don't know who you are because they think their leaders are in the government, but you own everything, including the government, you created the government to help find ways to control the machine you own. All is going to plan, you have everyone and their grand-childrens' grand-children in debt and everyone is so grateful to you for letting them have existed in your machine.
To keep the machine running, you simply print more money and give it away to your friends while you watch it trickle down and back to you.

What a wonderful life;; you own everything. Who knows how you will treat thei grandchildren? everyone who is in debt will die, they won't know what you do to their children's children.

Vol. 2
When you reach this point I am going to have to take a few short cuts of explanation, please feel free to ask questions or come to your own conclusions.

So you own and are keeping this machine running, congrats on making it this far. So far you have delt with everything practical and material as far as all the scientists you own have explained it to you.
We can first assume that it is possible you have analyzed the patterns of the earth, and allowed populations to grow and die creating whole civilizations and histories that you will never diclose to the next generation of machine workers; all while maintaining your families bloodline of comfort, control, and power. We don't have to assume this, but we can, but i don't care so i will moon on to the next psotulate.
We can also assume you have delt with the presence of extraterestrials and came up with some bullshit solution to keep them at bay from your population of worker beess, or to take it further, maybe you are an alien and started this slave system in the first place(fuck you then);; anyway congradulations againt on avoiding universal and intergalaktik morality laws.

Up til here you have run the matrix successfuly;; the first real problem becomes that of the extent of your perception. You have so much information that you realize all things are not completely percievable. There are energies and wavelengths you cannot control. There seems to be some sort of larger greater transcendent machine which overlaps and englufs the material dimension you are in charge of. The machines//people you own have arrived at this dimension from a place you do not understand and will leave to a place you care nothing about((you have technology to remain immortal)). You struggle to hire scientists and guurus to give you a better understanding of the dimensions that you cannot yet own, as even though you are immortal you fear someone you also may be released from the machine you own. (unless you are an alien and figured this shit out alrdy then fuck you again u bitch as mthrfckr creator of suffering))

So you do all this science and it turns out the machine you are running does not match up with the natural cosmic desire of the multiverse//being to evolve. Oh shit, this just got real. The chaos you have managed with your system is starting to leak and grow wild in some areas because some of the monkeys you own have grown more intelligent than you and your entire family combined. You cover up parts of the system and start to intentionally brainwash people with all kinds of pragrams running them in all kinds of distracting directions;; you control time, the slaves will never have enough time to realize what is going on.

1800s happen;; enlightenment movement, philosophers figure out the greatest extent of perceptions ever known to man, discover and disclose the scientific method. You relish all this, you love to see your machine creating beautiful things and buy up all the art and inventions. Every piece of art is like a sticker on your fridge for humanity. Unfortunately you do not notice in the background that the greatest authors you cherish are leaving being instructions for the future humans to create a world with less suffering and more sharing.
1900s the discovery of lsd and the computerization of your slave pupulace. Your monkeys have figured out so much and have made you powerful because you control them. Unfortunatly again, they are smarter than ever, LSD has given them more control than shrooms gave them when opperating at huge levels of perception. This is absolutly dangerous as you begin to realize the divine machine surounding the one you own can be opperated by any being aware of the extended machinery. You quickly outlaw all drugs which allow others to percieve this machinery and begin a new propoganda era of chaotic information flooded brainwashing to confuse the populace.
Slowly, as more information arrives at your office you begin to see this divine machine taking place, and wonder if the world itself has a soul. This soul is evolving and there are naturaly selected individuals who come from all sorts of places around the world which understand what you could never even imagine. These individuals are slowly given control over your machine through tricks in their perception of time and day to day analysis;; you become distraught and fear the divine machine will remove you from your throne of master slave as it is necessary to the natural leaders to take power and decrease the suffering you have exacted on the entire populace.
You think yourself a good leader, you did a little bit to decrease suffering here and there but were mostly concerned about maintaining your power during this mass intellectual revolution.
Maybe you are an alien, maybe aliens come to meet you to discuss your options, maybe you suck and your just a some immortal//not immortal doochebag, idc. Everyone is getting angry because you won't print enough money. So you print more money so you don't have to go live in a bunker far away, you enjoy living in the machine just like everyone else, or maybe you don't and your alrdy in a bunker or on some island//mountain somewhere far away, idk this is your plan not mine. fuck you.
So one day you wake up and your advisers are telling you information is moving and growing way to fast, there are some unpredictable things happening with too much power behind them, freak out, start two world wars (three world wars etc.). Sit and watch and do whatever you can to maintain power around the world;; you own the gov. let them do that, printmoney etc.
Oh no, now you have to print money just to keep the world in your hands, you're stuck and your trying to kill everyone with wars and BS and whatever. fuck you, you suck. Print only enough money for the people protecting you and controlling the masses to keep doing w/e. Everyone pissed as ever, you hide disguised as one of your slaves (sorta your still filthy gluttonous u bastardshit) and openly hope that everyone will just die,, maybe you set up a plan to kill everyone, idk, you obviously suck at this point and keep some book by ur bead or get BJs constantly to make urself feel ok with urself. congratulations your still kool;;
Oh no, wait, time keeps going, now your machine running fastest ever pace and you can't stop time to keep it this way, shit is was more real than you thought oh fuck oh fuck, probabilities keep shifting because ppl r tripping balls and echoing through the machine you own, legally. Nothing left to do but sit back and enjoy your life, your too stressed out, let the gov. figure out how to do this shit, ya that’s what they pay you for. But oh shit their time is all taken up by ur machine, they can't see past yesterday or tomorrow, neither can you anymore. Information and patterns everywhere are going ballistic.

flash forward to late 1900's people are going crazy everywhere, too many thoughts, too depressed, give them fake and shitty meds that wont let them percieve their souls//true-self to dull them out. Created a ton of psychological disorders and lock up everyone who went crazy trying to figure out who you were and why you suck so many balls. Propaganda chaos is practically a success, everyone too crazy to communicate with each other, info flies everywhere but its not all reliable anymore so everyone just sits at home wondering what is, they go back to work, you print a tiny bit of money to keep them distracted while you figure out how to tone down this newly evolved information age.

Shit is real though, everything moving too fast to control absolutely, information traveling around and you become paranoid about the divine machine's intention, so you start making the world into a giant alchemal ritual, appease the gods or whatever, you not sure, but your scientists can't figure it out and ur rich, so wtf why not. Shit keeps going

fast forward to the 21st century;; many people at universities become too smart, take psychedelics and go crazy realizing that with so much information in the new age and the ability to understand how to perceive it, they are becoming the new leaders. Oh shit you are tripping balls and take a ton of zanex #get me outta get. Try a bunch of space missions but can't make it anywhere habitable, fyl your stuck here with us. (invest in NASA warp drive it is your only hope))

best part:: You never saw the great minds you admired leaving behind clues that were too advanced for you to interpret. It wasn't their fault, they saw the divine machine, and left instructions for some vitruvian man to operate the divine machine. All the instructions were left in code, and did not communicate directly. The divine information was released through some strange subjective time reference which aligned absyrd sequences of information at the exact time the individual needed to perceive them to unlock their understanding by correlating the information with the material and non material extensions of the soul.

One dude somewhere accidentally ends up being really smart, he is like shit ima take over the world cuz its my destiny and i don’t like how everyone is running it now. Wtf lil dude ur crazy here go to school so you can forget ur shitty dreams of world cooperation. Not sure who this dude is but you lock him in this school system and tv programming and try to keep him from valuable information.
unfortunately the year he reaches peak thinking ability is the year free information on the internet was slipping through, and he managed to get an education from the craziest intelligent thinkers on the planet;; fuck fuck fuck he knows everything. wait not yet;;
So kid way too old now and takes some soul extending drugs you tried so hard to keep away;; oh fuck he sees everything, he knew too much and was immediately connected with the divine machine extension;; everything begins to break just from him sitting in his room realizing while his temperature rises and his soul is on fire, he is too powerful and too much information is running through him at once. Lucky for you the machine has its own ways of dealing with time and the human body in the material machine you have control over is immediately interfered with until his body cannot sustain his thoughts. Idk how much you know about this dude, where or who he is. Or if you even know this happened, but it did.
This dude does not forget what happened, he remembers the energy there, the divine machine he saw, it was all explained to him before he got there in books and self realizations. He goes back;; and takes his thrown at the center of the divine machine by creating this most beautiful offering for the Divine programs, he is truly the machines indented reciprocant. The vitruvian man. Your shit is fucked now as it turns out this kid is meant to rule the world and all you can do is keep him from the knowledge of the public. Hell you don't even know that he exists, only that hes out there waiting for probabilities in time, maybe you don't know he exists, cause you suck, and your science sucks, but he’s out there and he has truly inherited the beauty of evolution. He can not be stopped, his program even began infecting the minds of others and spreading like wildfire, minds everywhere getting closer and closer to the truth.
He knows that he is in power, because the most beautiful thoughts fill his head constantly and the vibrations of divine programs follow him around. There is nothing left for you to do but run or not run;; you hope that he and everyone down the rabbit hole dies but it doesn’t matter because the extended minds of all time are arriving through portals of information. If he died the machine would be offered to another, or perhaps he would still operate the machine from the afterlife. He doesn't know everything, not even much at all, only the extent of all humanity could teach him and that he could learn from his life, but his mind continues to extend, reaching farther and farther into the divine machine and all around everything and nothing.

You sit in your large estate, trying to enjoy what you own;; aware that things are changing too quickly for you to cope;; while Nobody who studied Nothing for years, just so he could free his mind from your material realm, sits at the center of the World Soul, waiting for his space fuel to arrive, everything in balance with his thoughts.
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control and freedom hahahahaha
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The nobody.

Why would one be a nobody?

perhaps its the letting go of the self and being one with all.

Yet at the same time not being more important than any one else.

Thus

a nobody.

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nothing is real
all is a dream
hear the children scream

so many prayers
so much in need
see the souls saved as he bleeds

what happens when
it happens again?
a week for a day
a day for a week

pray my soul
all yours to keep?

nobody knows the trouble im in
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for all the nobody's
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imagine you own everything

So you and your family have stuck together for a long time, maybe even teamed up with a few other families;; i mean a looooooong time, maybe two hundred years or 500 years or w/e maybe a million idc. So you stuck together and now everything is owned by someone you know. The factories, the banks, the politicians; basically you manfucature everything that everyone buys and uses, and everyone has bought so much of everything that you have all the money, there is no money left, because everyone spent it by being taxed to live inside your machine.
So what do you do? How can everyone use this system still in place? Money you say, keep giving them money;; so you print some money and pay for people to help run your world machine by being some kogs in it all, they recieve that money and then they spend it somewhere in your machine for something your machine produced, they are part of your machine.
This seems splendid, but wait; everyone had so many needs and desires that all the money ended up coming back to you, because the place you were living was owned by them, and the bills you paid were supplied by them so all your money had to go back to them so you could keep up with the work they supplied you with.
Woah, what now;; you own everything and have all the money, but you want everyone to stick around for a while to help you get around and do your laundry etc. You deffinitly don't want anyone to take your power away, kill you, or find the natural leader of the machine system, no that would be bad and you want to fly your jet to see your family over at a resort later.
So... you print more money to give to people in your machine so the machine can keep running. These people have desires which extend in all sorts of directions in your machine;; you have already made sure your machine can meet everyones needs in everyway possible, but only if it is by using your machine. You don't want people to have pleasure without paying you.
You even let them borrow money from you to comfort them when they realize that nothing is ever enough in life. You let them gather a large debt and find a way for that debt to belong to their bloodline. Everyone is so eager to borrow your money because nothing in your machine is never enough to satisfy them for all of time.
You exploit this, the concept of time; time is in your favor because you have access to the most information, the most pleasure, and the most power which can control how you and your will can move through time.
Everyone could not meet your debt demands, you are in good shape now; they have already died and their children have inherited massive trillion dollar debts, great! Next thing to do is make that number look as unfatomable as possible. Everyone has already spent all their money a few times over and again it has all come back to you!!! Congradulations, you have now gotten everyon and all the children they could ever have in your debt;;meaning legally you own them.
They don't know who you are because they think their leaders are in the government, but you own everything, including the government, you created the government to help find ways to control the machine you own. All is going to plan, you have everyone and their grand-childrens' grand-children in debt and everyone is so grateful to you for letting them have existed in your machine.
To keep the machine running, you simply print more money and give it away to your friends while you watch it trickle down and back to you.

What a wonderful life;; you own everything. Who knows how you will treat thei grandchildren? everyone who is in debt will die, they won't know what you do to their children's children.

Vol. 2
When you reach this point I am going to have to take a few short cuts of explanation, please feel free to ask questions or come to your own conclusions.

So you own and are keeping this machine running, congrats on making it this far. So far you have delt with everything practical and material as far as all the scientists you own have explained it to you.
We can first assume that it is possible you have analyzed the patterns of the earth, and allowed populations to grow and die creating whole civilizations and histories that you will never diclose to the next generation of machine workers; all while maintaining your families bloodline of comfort, control, and power. We don't have to assume this, but we can, but i don't care so i will moon on to the next psotulate.
We can also assume you have delt with the presence of extraterestrials and came up with some bullshit solution to keep them at bay from your population of worker beess, or to take it further, maybe you are an alien and started this slave system in the first place(fuck you then);; anyway congradulations againt on avoiding universal and intergalaktik morality laws.

Up til here you have run the matrix successfuly;; the first real problem becomes that of the extent of your perception. You have so much information that you realize all things are not completely percievable. There are energies and wavelengths you cannot control. There seems to be some sort of larger greater transcendent machine which overlaps and englufs the material dimension you are in charge of. The machines//people you own have arrived at this dimension from a place you do not understand and will leave to a place you care nothing about((you have technology to remain immortal)). You struggle to hire scientists and guurus to give you a better understanding of the dimensions that you cannot yet own, as even though you are immortal you fear someone you also may be released from the machine you own. (unless you are an alien and figured this shit out alrdy then fuck you again u bitch as mthrfckr creator of suffering))

So you do all this science and it turns out the machine you are running does not match up with the natural cosmic desire of the multiverse//being to evolve. Oh shit, this just got real. The chaos you have managed with your system is starting to leak and grow wild in some areas because some of the monkeys you own have grown more intelligent than you and your entire family combined. You cover up parts of the system and start to intentionally brainwash people with all kinds of pragrams running them in all kinds of distracting directions;; you control time, the slaves will never have enough time to realize what is going on.

1800s happen;; enlightenment movement, philosophers figure out the greatest extent of perceptions ever known to man, discover and disclose the scientific method. You relish all this, you love to see your machine creating beautiful things and buy up all the art and inventions. Every piece of art is like a sticker on your fridge for humanity. Unfortunately you do not notice in the background that the greatest authors you cherish are leaving being instructions for the future humans to create a world with less suffering and more sharing.
1900s the discovery of lsd and the computerization of your slave pupulace. Your monkeys have figured out so much and have made you powerful because you control them. Unfortunatly again, they are smarter than ever, LSD has given them more control than shrooms gave them when opperating at huge levels of perception. This is absolutly dangerous as you begin to realize the divine machine surounding the one you own can be opperated by any being aware of the extended machinery. You quickly outlaw all drugs which allow others to percieve this machinery and begin a new propoganda era of chaotic information flooded brainwashing to confuse the populace.
Slowly, as more information arrives at your office you begin to see this divine machine taking place, and wonder if the world itself has a soul. This soul is evolving and there are naturaly selected individuals who come from all sorts of places around the world which understand what you could never even imagine. These individuals are slowly given control over your machine through tricks in their perception of time and day to day analysis;; you become distraught and fear the divine machine will remove you from your throne of master slave as it is necessary to the natural leaders to take power and decrease the suffering you have exacted on the entire populace.
You think yourself a good leader, you did a little bit to decrease suffering here and there but were mostly concerned about maintaining your power during this mass intellectual revolution.
Maybe you are an alien, maybe aliens come to meet you to discuss your options, maybe you suck and your just a some immortal//not immortal doochebag, idc. Everyone is getting angry because you won't print enough money. So you print more money so you don't have to go live in a bunker far away, you enjoy living in the machine just like everyone else, or maybe you don't and your alrdy in a bunker or on some island//mountain somewhere far away, idk this is your plan not mine. fuck you.
So one day you wake up and your advisers are telling you information is moving and growing way to fast, there are some unpredictable things happening with too much power behind them, freak out, start two world wars (three world wars etc.). Sit and watch and do whatever you can to maintain power around the world;; you own the gov. let them do that, printmoney etc.
Oh no, now you have to print money just to keep the world in your hands, you're stuck and your trying to kill everyone with wars and BS and whatever. fuck you, you suck. Print only enough money for the people protecting you and controlling the masses to keep doing w/e. Everyone pissed as ever, you hide disguised as one of your slaves (sorta your still filthy gluttonous u bastardshit) and openly hope that everyone will just die,, maybe you set up a plan to kill everyone, idk, you obviously suck at this point and keep some book by ur bead or get BJs constantly to make urself feel ok with urself. congratulations your still kool;;
Oh no, wait, time keeps going, now your machine running fastest ever pace and you can't stop time to keep it this way, shit is was more real than you thought oh fuck oh fuck, probabilities keep shifting because ppl r tripping balls and echoing through the machine you own, legally. Nothing left to do but sit back and enjoy your life, your too stressed out, let the gov. figure out how to do this shit, ya that’s what they pay you for. But oh shit their time is all taken up by ur machine, they can't see past yesterday or tomorrow, neither can you anymore. Information and patterns everywhere are going ballistic.

flash forward to late 1900's people are going crazy everywhere, too many thoughts, too depressed, give them fake and shitty meds that wont let them percieve their souls//true-self to dull them out. Created a ton of psychological disorders and lock up everyone who went crazy trying to figure out who you were and why you suck so many balls. Propaganda chaos is practically a success, everyone too crazy to communicate with each other, info flies everywhere but its not all reliable anymore so everyone just sits at home wondering what is, they go back to work, you print a tiny bit of money to keep them distracted while you figure out how to tone down this newly evolved information age.

Shit is real though, everything moving too fast to control absolutely, information traveling around and you become paranoid about the divine machine's intention, so you start making the world into a giant alchemal ritual, appease the gods or whatever, you not sure, but your scientists can't figure it out and ur rich, so wtf why not. Shit keeps going

fast forward to the 21st century;; many people at universities become too smart, take psychedelics and go crazy realizing that with so much information in the new age and the ability to understand how to perceive it, they are becoming the new leaders. Oh shit you are tripping balls and take a ton of zanex #get me outta get. Try a bunch of space missions but can't make it anywhere habitable, fyl your stuck here with us. (invest in NASA warp drive it is your only hope))

best part:: You never saw the great minds you admired leaving behind clues that were too advanced for you to interpret. It wasn't their fault, they saw the divine machine, and left instructions for some vitruvian man to operate the divine machine. All the instructions were left in code, and did not communicate directly. The divine information was released through some strange subjective time reference which aligned absyrd sequences of information at the exact time the individual needed to perceive them to unlock their understanding by correlating the information with the material and non material extensions of the soul.

One dude somewhere accidentally ends up being really smart, he is like shit ima take over the world cuz its my destiny and i don’t like how everyone is running it now. Wtf lil dude ur crazy here go to school so you can forget ur shitty dreams of world cooperation. Not sure who this dude is but you lock him in this school system and tv programming and try to keep him from valuable information.
unfortunately the year he reaches peak thinking ability is the year free information on the internet was slipping through, and he managed to get an education from the craziest intelligent thinkers on the planet;; fuck fuck fuck he knows everything. wait not yet;;
So kid way too old now and takes some soul extending drugs you tried so hard to keep away;; oh fuck he sees everything, he knew too much and was immediately connected with the divine machine extension;; everything begins to break just from him sitting in his room realizing while his temperature rises and his soul is on fire, he is too powerful and too much information is running through him at once. Lucky for you the machine has its own ways of dealing with time and the human body in the material machine you have control over is immediately interfered with until his body cannot sustain his thoughts. Idk how much you know about this dude, where or who he is. Or if you even know this happened, but it did.
This dude does not forget what happened, he remembers the energy there, the divine machine he saw, it was all explained to him before he got there in books and self realizations. He goes back;; and takes his thrown at the center of the divine machine by creating this most beautiful offering for the Divine programs, he is truly the machines indented reciprocant. The vitruvian man. Your shit is fucked now as it turns out this kid is meant to rule the world and all you can do is keep him from the knowledge of the public. Hell you don't even know that he exists, only that hes out there waiting for probabilities in time, maybe you don't know he exists, cause you suck, and your science sucks, but he’s out there and he has truly inherited the beauty of evolution. He can not be stopped, his program even began infecting the minds of others and spreading like wildfire, minds everywhere getting closer and closer to the truth.
He knows that he is in power, because the most beautiful thoughts fill his head constantly and the vibrations of divine programs follow him around. There is nothing left for you to do but run or not run;; you hope that he and everyone down the rabbit hole dies but it doesn’t matter because the extended minds of all time are arriving through portals of information. If he died the machine would be offered to another, or perhaps he would still operate the machine from the afterlife. He doesn't know everything, not even much at all, only the extent of all humanity could teach him and that he could learn from his life, but his mind continues to extend, reaching farther and farther into the divine machine and all around everything and nothing.

You sit in your large estate, trying to enjoy what you own;; aware that things are changing too quickly for you to cope;; while Nobody who studied Nothing for years, just so he could free his mind from your material realm, sits at the center of the World Soul, waiting for his space fuel to arrive, everything in balance with his thoughts.
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i wrote that massive diatribe as an attempt to prove i was the highest manifestation of nobody on the planet. nice to see you enjoy it. lmk when u want to use me.
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nothing is real
all is a dream
hear the children scream

so many prayers
so much in need
see the souls saved as he bleeds

what happens when
it happens again?
a week for a day
a day for a week

pray my soul
all yours to keep?

nobody knows the trouble im in
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imagine you own everything

So you and your family have stuck together for a long time, maybe even teamed up with a few other families;; i mean a looooooong time, maybe two hundred years or 500 years or w/e maybe a million idc. So you stuck together and now everything is owned by someone you know. The factories, the banks, the politicians; basically you manfucature everything that everyone buys and uses, and everyone has bought so much of everything that you have all the money, there is no money left, because everyone spent it by being taxed to live inside your machine.
So what do you do? How can everyone use this system still in place? Money you say, keep giving them money;; so you print some money and pay for people to help run your world machine by being some kogs in it all, they recieve that money and then they spend it somewhere in your machine for something your machine produced, they are part of your machine.
This seems splendid, but wait; everyone had so many needs and desires that all the money ended up coming back to you, because the place you were living was owned by them, and the bills you paid were supplied by them so all your money had to go back to them so you could keep up with the work they supplied you with.
Woah, what now;; you own everything and have all the money, but you want everyone to stick around for a while to help you get around and do your laundry etc. You deffinitly don't want anyone to take your power away, kill you, or find the natural leader of the machine system, no that would be bad and you want to fly your jet to see your family over at a resort later.
So... you print more money to give to people in your machine so the machine can keep running. These people have desires which extend in all sorts of directions in your machine;; you have already made sure your machine can meet everyones needs in everyway possible, but only if it is by using your machine. You don't want people to have pleasure without paying you.
You even let them borrow money from you to comfort them when they realize that nothing is ever enough in life. You let them gather a large debt and find a way for that debt to belong to their bloodline. Everyone is so eager to borrow your money because nothing in your machine is never enough to satisfy them for all of time.
You exploit this, the concept of time; time is in your favor because you have access to the most information, the most pleasure, and the most power which can control how you and your will can move through time.
Everyone could not meet your debt demands, you are in good shape now; they have already died and their children have inherited massive trillion dollar debts, great! Next thing to do is make that number look as unfatomable as possible. Everyone has already spent all their money a few times over and again it has all come back to you!!! Congradulations, you have now gotten everyon and all the children they could ever have in your debt;;meaning legally you own them.
They don't know who you are because they think their leaders are in the government, but you own everything, including the government, you created the government to help find ways to control the machine you own. All is going to plan, you have everyone and their grand-childrens' grand-children in debt and everyone is so grateful to you for letting them have existed in your machine.
To keep the machine running, you simply print more money and give it away to your friends while you watch it trickle down and back to you.

What a wonderful life;; you own everything. Who knows how you will treat thei grandchildren? everyone who is in debt will die, they won't know what you do to their children's children.

Vol. 2
When you reach this point I am going to have to take a few short cuts of explanation, please feel free to ask questions or come to your own conclusions.

So you own and are keeping this machine running, congrats on making it this far. So far you have delt with everything practical and material as far as all the scientists you own have explained it to you.
We can first assume that it is possible you have analyzed the patterns of the earth, and allowed populations to grow and die creating whole civilizations and histories that you will never diclose to the next generation of machine workers; all while maintaining your families bloodline of comfort, control, and power. We don't have to assume this, but we can, but i don't care so i will moon on to the next psotulate.
We can also assume you have delt with the presence of extraterestrials and came up with some bullshit solution to keep them at bay from your population of worker beess, or to take it further, maybe you are an alien and started this slave system in the first place(fuck you then);; anyway congradulations againt on avoiding universal and intergalaktik morality laws.

Up til here you have run the matrix successfuly;; the first real problem becomes that of the extent of your perception. You have so much information that you realize all things are not completely percievable. There are energies and wavelengths you cannot control. There seems to be some sort of larger greater transcendent machine which overlaps and englufs the material dimension you are in charge of. The machines//people you own have arrived at this dimension from a place you do not understand and will leave to a place you care nothing about((you have technology to remain immortal)). You struggle to hire scientists and guurus to give you a better understanding of the dimensions that you cannot yet own, as even though you are immortal you fear someone you also may be released from the machine you own. (unless you are an alien and figured this shit out alrdy then fuck you again u bitch as mthrfckr creator of suffering))

So you do all this science and it turns out the machine you are running does not match up with the natural cosmic desire of the multiverse//being to evolve. Oh shit, this just got real. The chaos you have managed with your system is starting to leak and grow wild in some areas because some of the monkeys you own have grown more intelligent than you and your entire family combined. You cover up parts of the system and start to intentionally brainwash people with all kinds of pragrams running them in all kinds of distracting directions;; you control time, the slaves will never have enough time to realize what is going on.

1800s happen;; enlightenment movement, philosophers figure out the greatest extent of perceptions ever known to man, discover and disclose the scientific method. You relish all this, you love to see your machine creating beautiful things and buy up all the art and inventions. Every piece of art is like a sticker on your fridge for humanity. Unfortunately you do not notice in the background that the greatest authors you cherish are leaving being instructions for the future humans to create a world with less suffering and more sharing.
1900s the discovery of lsd and the computerization of your slave pupulace. Your monkeys have figured out so much and have made you powerful because you control them. Unfortunatly again, they are smarter than ever, LSD has given them more control than shrooms gave them when opperating at huge levels of perception. This is absolutly dangerous as you begin to realize the divine machine surounding the one you own can be opperated by any being aware of the extended machinery. You quickly outlaw all drugs which allow others to percieve this machinery and begin a new propoganda era of chaotic information flooded brainwashing to confuse the populace.
Slowly, as more information arrives at your office you begin to see this divine machine taking place, and wonder if the world itself has a soul. This soul is evolving and there are naturaly selected individuals who come from all sorts of places around the world which understand what you could never even imagine. These individuals are slowly given control over your machine through tricks in their perception of time and day to day analysis;; you become distraught and fear the divine machine will remove you from your throne of master slave as it is necessary to the natural leaders to take power and decrease the suffering you have exacted on the entire populace.
You think yourself a good leader, you did a little bit to decrease suffering here and there but were mostly concerned about maintaining your power during this mass intellectual revolution.
Maybe you are an alien, maybe aliens come to meet you to discuss your options, maybe you suck and your just a some immortal//not immortal doochebag, idc. Everyone is getting angry because you won't print enough money. So you print more money so you don't have to go live in a bunker far away, you enjoy living in the machine just like everyone else, or maybe you don't and your alrdy in a bunker or on some island//mountain somewhere far away, idk this is your plan not mine. fuck you.
So one day you wake up and your advisers are telling you information is moving and growing way to fast, there are some unpredictable things happening with too much power behind them, freak out, start two world wars (three world wars etc.). Sit and watch and do whatever you can to maintain power around the world;; you own the gov. let them do that, printmoney etc.
Oh no, now you have to print money just to keep the world in your hands, you're stuck and your trying to kill everyone with wars and BS and whatever. fuck you, you suck. Print only enough money for the people protecting you and controlling the masses to keep doing w/e. Everyone pissed as ever, you hide disguised as one of your slaves (sorta your still filthy gluttonous u bastardshit) and openly hope that everyone will just die,, maybe you set up a plan to kill everyone, idk, you obviously suck at this point and keep some book by ur bead or get BJs constantly to make urself feel ok with urself. congratulations your still kool;;
Oh no, wait, time keeps going, now your machine running fastest ever pace and you can't stop time to keep it this way, shit is was more real than you thought oh fuck oh fuck, probabilities keep shifting because ppl r tripping balls and echoing through the machine you own, legally. Nothing left to do but sit back and enjoy your life, your too stressed out, let the gov. figure out how to do this shit, ya that’s what they pay you for. But oh shit their time is all taken up by ur machine, they can't see past yesterday or tomorrow, neither can you anymore. Information and patterns everywhere are going ballistic.

flash forward to late 1900's people are going crazy everywhere, too many thoughts, too depressed, give them fake and shitty meds that wont let them percieve their souls//true-self to dull them out. Created a ton of psychological disorders and lock up everyone who went crazy trying to figure out who you were and why you suck so many balls. Propaganda chaos is practically a success, everyone too crazy to communicate with each other, info flies everywhere but its not all reliable anymore so everyone just sits at home wondering what is, they go back to work, you print a tiny bit of money to keep them distracted while you figure out how to tone down this newly evolved information age.

Shit is real though, everything moving too fast to control absolutely, information traveling around and you become paranoid about the divine machine's intention, so you start making the world into a giant alchemal ritual, appease the gods or whatever, you not sure, but your scientists can't figure it out and ur rich, so wtf why not. Shit keeps going

fast forward to the 21st century;; many people at universities become too smart, take psychedelics and go crazy realizing that with so much information in the new age and the ability to understand how to perceive it, they are becoming the new leaders. Oh shit you are tripping balls and take a ton of zanex #get me outta get. Try a bunch of space missions but can't make it anywhere habitable, fyl your stuck here with us. (invest in NASA warp drive it is your only hope))

best part:: You never saw the great minds you admired leaving behind clues that were too advanced for you to interpret. It wasn't their fault, they saw the divine machine, and left instructions for some vitruvian man to operate the divine machine. All the instructions were left in code, and did not communicate directly. The divine information was released through some strange subjective time reference which aligned absyrd sequences of information at the exact time the individual needed to perceive them to unlock their understanding by correlating the information with the material and non material extensions of the soul.

One dude somewhere accidentally ends up being really smart, he is like shit ima take over the world cuz its my destiny and i don’t like how everyone is running it now. Wtf lil dude ur crazy here go to school so you can forget ur shitty dreams of world cooperation. Not sure who this dude is but you lock him in this school system and tv programming and try to keep him from valuable information.
unfortunately the year he reaches peak thinking ability is the year free information on the internet was slipping through, and he managed to get an education from the craziest intelligent thinkers on the planet;; fuck fuck fuck he knows everything. wait not yet;;
So kid way too old now and takes some soul extending drugs you tried so hard to keep away;; oh fuck he sees everything, he knew too much and was immediately connected with the divine machine extension;; everything begins to break just from him sitting in his room realizing while his temperature rises and his soul is on fire, he is too powerful and too much information is running through him at once. Lucky for you the machine has its own ways of dealing with time and the human body in the material machine you have control over is immediately interfered with until his body cannot sustain his thoughts. Idk how much you know about this dude, where or who he is. Or if you even know this happened, but it did.
This dude does not forget what happened, he remembers the energy there, the divine machine he saw, it was all explained to him before he got there in books and self realizations. He goes back;; and takes his thrown at the center of the divine machine by creating this most beautiful offering for the Divine programs, he is truly the machines indented reciprocant. The vitruvian man. Your shit is fucked now as it turns out this kid is meant to rule the world and all you can do is keep him from the knowledge of the public. Hell you don't even know that he exists, only that hes out there waiting for probabilities in time, maybe you don't know he exists, cause you suck, and your science sucks, but he’s out there and he has truly inherited the beauty of evolution. He can not be stopped, his program even began infecting the minds of others and spreading like wildfire, minds everywhere getting closer and closer to the truth.
He knows that he is in power, because the most beautiful thoughts fill his head constantly and the vibrations of divine programs follow him around. There is nothing left for you to do but run or not run;; you hope that he and everyone down the rabbit hole dies but it doesn’t matter because the extended minds of all time are arriving through portals of information. If he died the machine would be offered to another, or perhaps he would still operate the machine from the afterlife. He doesn't know everything, not even much at all, only the extent of all humanity could teach him and that he could learn from his life, but his mind continues to extend, reaching farther and farther into the divine machine and all around everything and nothing.

You sit in your large estate, trying to enjoy what you own;; aware that things are changing too quickly for you to cope;; while Nobody who studied Nothing for years, just so he could free his mind from your material realm, sits at the center of the World Soul, waiting for his space fuel to arrive, everything in balance with his thoughts.
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clappa

moshpit


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i wrote that massive diatribe as an attempt to prove i was the highest manifestation of nobody on the planet. nice to see you enjoy it. lmk when u want to use me.
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[QUOTE=Stars,May 15 2013, 07:12 AM] DREAM May 15th 2013, the meaning of life is speed explained.

Dav,

I have something for you.

Remember when we were talking yesterday, and I said all those mean things about numbers not meaning anything? It's quite the opposite.. numbers and geometry mean a lot, and I quite wish I had the mastery of them that you show. But, trick is, that's what you're there for.. you're, as it were, the fountain from which awareness can come, however it wishes, and I may be able to make sense of it. In the context of that, I've been thinking about what you said once, 'The meaning of life is speed', which I recall you thought after a long experience of madness.. and this is what it means:

The meaning of our current earthly life, of any earthly life, is to find the way to do what you have to do in the easiest way possible. To overcome matter. To learn to cut trees, say, 20 at a time, so that matter is no longer an obstacle. Once that's done, one must ask, What is the purpose of life? And the answer to that is balance. To be one with divinity. So perhaps one's able to cut trees 20 at a time, but shouldn't, one should instead learn to cultivate them (200 at a time!). Our words are often fuzzy.. I have a personal system where they all make sense, but others may not understand it the same way. I would say, though, and this is publishable, that the meaning of life is balance at speed, design. If you want, I can provide the balance, and you provide the fuel, hehe.. Thus we will have Concorde, agreement, like the really fast passenger plane, able to carry much and do it with amazing style and achievement. I know it sounds crazy, but life actually is that way.. and all the very best people are somewhat crooked in the head. What we do right, though, is to have a powerful heart. With that, you can do anything.

Eager to hear what you may think,

-AZ



you have such a gift with words AZ

no two things are the same, even if they appear to be at the surface. An open mind, and a pure heart [ by that i mean child like desire to know with out fear or judgment] is critical in achieving this. Working together by learning to unlearn we can then put a bigger picture together and expand our awareness not only for the self but with those as saxon referred to of like mind/heart. In the process of tearing down old or outdated beliefs/concepts, we can learn new ways that encompasses more of a deeper connection to what is. Thus, we learn to unlearn in order to learn and repeat the process.

Some are faster than others at this, [speed], but in my heart i feel that the more this process is done, the better the picture is, the more people will be able to relate and join in on the wonders and beauty of wisdom and truth, hopefully leading to solutions rather than conformity.



had an amazing experience last night

here is the dream but to me it was more real that here.

DREAM May 15th 2013
This dream was unlike any i have ever experienced before.
It starts with my falling asleep only to wake up and walk around the apartment going to the door trying to open it only to wake again each time.

This happened a few times then it was as though i had left the world here as i had known it before and my eyes became one eye from what i could only relate to as being my pineal gland, like an interdenominational world opened for me as though i had died.

When i began to look around i could see things written but the numbers kept changing and the text would slowly change not at the same rate as the numbers allowing me to make out their lettering.

I looked over and saw a grown man and asked him why i could not see the numbers and he said do not look at the numbers or think too much about them because that is not a good thing, people use them to hack the code and that is not allowed.

as i am looking at him my intuition was so high that i knew who he was. He was my brother Robby whom passed when he was 6 months old of SIDS.

and i said your robby!!! and he said yes David and we hugged and i cried tears of joy.

the physics of this place was as real as my walking life here. If i touched something it was the same feeling as it would be here.

It was as though it was definitely not a dream.

So robby begins to take me around and the next person i see is my cousin Stephanie whom passed in 2003.

I give her a big hug as well.

As i am being shown the place and being taught about it i meet different people that I have interacted with during my life.

The place was like some kind of a mainframe where it was real and the real world was some sort of game or place of learning.

The difference between here and there was that both have free will yet there the more at one you are with heart/mind and love the more freedoms you receive and the more mean and unloving and angry/violent you are the less you have.

just like we try to evolve here on earth so does heaven evolve and change.

There was a female that was the guard of this place and not all there loved me and some wanted to hurt me because of how much they were filled with anger and hate.

For some reason i didn't grasp till later i had full access to the whole mainframe and i got myself into some trouble near the end because of it.

On my journeys i was like a child in my heart and mind unaware of others hatred for me and ended up meeting someone whom said to me " do you remember me?"

and i could not and she said i am the one who beat you up when you were a little toddler and i had a flash of that beating.

the the security guard [ same woman from my gems/diamonds flowing out of my mouth dream] locked her in her room.

there was free will there much like here but the difference was that those of loving caring minds and hearts had the freedoms to go about while those whom did not were kept in thier rooms much like a parent would discipline a misbehaving child.

I was told not to post at LOP any longer because my mission was complete and that no more information should be posted there due to the negative ones involved with misusing such information.

I was also told to stop smoking and i said should i sell the rest of the packs in my carton to my cousin? and they said not to but rather to give them instead.

as i was wondering around i kept on meeting more and more people and as i explored this new world it was as though people could almost do anything and that it was the real world while this place is the illusion.

They were planning for a huge party tonight and as i was wondering i ended up getting in a bad place and being chased by a couple people that wanted to hurt me but luckily i was saved by that woman the guard.
when they tried to hurt me the guard stopped them and told them you can not hurt him he has passed the game of Thunder Bay.

She said who changed the code?

I thought it was me because of my code being a universal code.

so i said it was me.

she took me to safety where i was again surrounded by those of similar intent like myself.

there was much more to this dream that i am now forgetting and hope to recall soon.

I was there for what felt like a week but time was different there.

and money was not the motivating factor either but rather the level of love and heart for others.

much like saxon described heaven to be.

i hope to be able to return again every time i rest.

it is as though i see now what i could not grasp before.

It is a knowing.

also the rules of reality were not as confined as they are here and there were many worlds in that place.

Those whom were slow learners to the golden rule of love were the poorest because they had to spend their time mainly in their rooms.

for some reason i had full access though to the whole thing

STARS

*WM* Wrote:
Definitely some key aspects in there. we tend to choose the amount of light we feel comfortable in. In a spectrum of colors we resonate at different frequencies and shape our reality based upon the choices we make. Acceptance yielding the greatest latitude makes sense, as it would allow more of this existence to express itself.

The mainframes I have seen on numerous occasions in my travels. All filling various purposes.

If i may what did you get out of this experience at a core level. Was there an epiphany or aha moment for you in the review of this experience?


STARS Wrote:

conformation is what i got from it.

it is a knowing of what is.

lots of love and respect for this world and all that are in it and all that sustains it.

the point made in it was that its a simulation for training purposes.

that hit home pretty good.
:heartflowers::heartflowers:


*WM* Wrote:
The training aspects are something I recognize although their final purpose escapes me. Perhaps with time the answers present themselves.

cheers to happiness now and happier time to come.



STARS Wrote:

that is the amazing opportunity this reality has to offer. Leaps and bounds in spiritual development.

There is great risk thou because of how the world is and i akin it to being like the lotto and although i really have a distaste for the system as it stands now, seeing how unequal it is and how much suffering results from it.

The end goal is to be fully developed spirits.

earlier today i was giving thought to karma and that seemed to answer some of the reasons for suffering yet not satisfactory.

we are spiritual beings having a human experience.

Religion is for those afraid of hell and spirituality is for those of us whom have already been through it.

Spiritual means truth.

There are many things that i do not know as to the reasons for such extremes here but i gather the suffering here serves a purpose in a sense much like lifting wieghts increases strength so too does suffering increase awareness of what is.


*WM* Wrote:
I must admit i have struggle with much of what you write, in different forms but the similarities are there. Like it is offset just enough to keep each experience unique. hehe, tagged and numbered, maybe we are in a zoo. my devious side wonders if I can bite the zoo-keepers :D

do you think we would be happier if we knew, or is it just something we are or are not?

:prison:
our minds are the prison/zoo
:beatingheart:
our hearts are the keys

but dont bite a hand willing to feed you

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