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Who or what controls this illusion?

 
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the idea of all being one is something that confuses me at times.
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Perhaps it's a paradox.

People say "we are all one", but that's a contradiction.

Can separate exist without together?

Tension of the (apparent) opposites anyone?!
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when the two become one
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Yes, but we still experience them as opposites, even if we know that duality is unity in disguise.
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yin and yang
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We are all part controller, part player, part observer and part affected, and therefore choose to actively or inactively engage or operate in a flexible multi-dimensional plane of physical, conscious and subconscious existence.
The problem is the playing ground we know as the cosmos is a growing infinite field, but we unfortunately are restricted to physically (but not mentally) playing in the physical realm known as Earth ...and therefore to some degree are restricted or as some feel imprisoned. Therefore we are born and forced to play out our individual roles in a ponderous an ongoing historic game...we call life and evolution.
Sadly unlike a computer games we can’t preset, edit or change the starting conditions or origin point because we are part of a continuum and the actions of our parent’s game. Nor can we really pull the plug and start again when things don’t suit us...although sadly some use suicide as a way out.
The reality is that we choose and can define who we are and want to be in the game i.e., good, bad or whatever. But remember to take time to listen to what’s inside because sadly we are playing in a very crowded competitive ecosystem (playing area) so therefore need to develop the personal skills, knowledge and abilities needed to grow and fulfil who and what you want to be.
The most frustrating part is that the game came be slow or effected by others, who force you to do things that don’t fit in with you or your ideas and there are very few cheats to get past certain systems to get directly to where you want to be or feel you need to be, so it is hard work and quite boring at times, because you might not fit in with your surroundings or with you fellow players, but these are all lessons too...but we are often too impatient to see or understand that the game is really a personal journey and everyone’s journey is unique. I wish it could be fairer and more equal and happier for everyone..but as I said before the universe (and the game) is infinite, and this is only one of many that you have chosen to live, feel, experience and play...so enjoy the good times, have patience in the slow times and learn from the bad ....hope that helps?

Personally I believe in aliens and like us they have very little relevance, significance or consequence as organisms in the greater or smaller illusions/realities of the cosmos, except perhaps the desire and ability to potentially explore, experience, understand and then control things beyond ourselves and the realms we exist in (whether illusionary or not). I also feel that like all life we serve no real purpose except in being a living manifestation, but it keeps me amused all the same. If your current theory is that evil aliens are controlling your/our reality and paradigm then yes I agree it’s a pretty good theory, but perhaps my worry is that humanity has always tried to invent things bigger than ourselves when we don’t have answers to our problems and situation. But I appreciate that alien are far more plausible theory than gods(or perhaps they are one and the same?), but I doubt if they have full control over the Earth script. Because control is often very illusive and fleeting, Even using powerful human examples of history most empires or systems break up because they become to big and unwieldy to manage at the macro level. There again perhaps our dreams and computer games now manifest new paradigms elsewhere?...the truth is, you me and everyone else might have to accept we are only program code on a kids XBOX..whether you mind or not is the issue
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The "Way" is simply that "climb" to the top of the Mountain where resides our God of Love, our Creator, with said "climb" always putting the climbing spirit to task.

To see the Way, simply look through the looking glass of Love to all other things in regards to those things such that they work together to increasingly manifest Love. In that will you see the seven spirits of God.

Therefore, is it more difficult to daily polish a plow to a brilliant dazzling shine or to take that same plow, tie it to a horse and break ground such that many are fed while also maintaining that plow befitting that service?

Also, who is more challenged, a man who decides his body to be "evil", therefore "denying" himself many things, or the man who embraces his body and in balance masterfully puts said body to the task of taking a wife, having and feeding children and therefore becoming a Loving father to many?

Which is more difficult, to climb a Mountain or to walk down a Mountain?

Which is more difficult, to Love or ignore?

For you see, the Way to godhood is not in rejecting those things with which to build your family of Love, but rather in embracing those things, and in doing so then can one balance their spirit and their body to ride freely in that chariot of the Mind pulled swiftly by that Horse of Heart

the Way is seen by looking through the looking glass of Love to all things manifest.

the meaning I am attributing to Love, with the full spectrum of Love covering most of the points you made in this post. The full spectrum of Love was pointed out by the 4 manifestations of such brought forth by the Greeks. Each of the following is something all spirits are tasked to develop within themselves. Such development requires all balanced aspects of the spirit in tandem.

• Agápe means "love" in modern day Greek, such as in the term s'agapo , which means "I love you". In Ancient Greek, it often refers to a general affection or deeper sense of "true love" rather than the attraction suggested by "eros". Agape is used in the biblical passage known as the "love chapter", 1 Corinthians 13, and is described there and throughout the New Testament as sacrificial love. Agape is also used in ancient texts to denote feelings for a good meal, one's children, and the feelings for a spouse. It can be described as the feeling of being content or holding one in high regard.

• Éros is passionate love, with sensual desire and longing. The Modern Greek word "erotas" means "intimate love;" however, eros does not have to be sexual in nature. Eros can be interpreted as a love for someone whom you love more than the philia, love of friendship. It can also apply to dating relationships as well as marriage. Plato refined his own definition: Although eros is initially felt for a person, with contemplation it becomes an appreciation of the beauty within that person, or even becomes appreciation of beauty itself. Plato does not talk of physical attraction as a necessary part of love, hence the use of the word platonic to mean, "without physical attraction." Plato also said eros helps the soul recall knowledge of beauty, and contributes to an understanding of spiritual truth. Lovers and philosophers are all inspired to seek truth by eros. The most famous ancient work on the subject of eros is Plato's Symposium, which is a discussion among the students of Socrates on the nature of eros.

• Philia means friendship in modern Greek. It is a dispassionate virtuous love, a concept developed by Aristotle. It includes loyalty to friends, family, and community, and requires virtue, equality and familiarity. In ancient texts, philos denoted a general type of love, used for love between family, between friends, a desire or enjoyment of an activity, as well as between lovers.

• Storge means "affection" in ancient and modern Greek. It is natural affection, like that felt by parents for offspring. Rarely used in ancient works, and then almost exclusively as a descriptor of relationships within the family. It is also known to express mere acceptance or putting up with situations, as in "loving" the tyrant.


as too wether or not a person loves... they must first master patience.

As the written scriptual def. The first thing Love is, is Patient.

soooo if a man or woman has not patience.. they can not truly love

An immature spirit is incapable of manifesting the entire Love spectrum, generally recognized as the manifestation of "Christ" Love. Christ is not a god or a person, but rather a "level" of Love "Being".

if a man or woman has not kindness... they can not truly love..


Love is a state of BEING which is reached through the 7 branches and 7 roots of the Tree of Life, a developmental "program" if you will. Many lives are required to develop a spirit to this level of Being.


The Angel of Wisdom---------Angel of Air-------wisdom/knowledge
The Angel of Peace----------- Angel of joy------Mental Balance Effort
The Heavenly Father --------- Earthly Mother-----Family Effort
The Angel of Love---------- Angel of Water------Love Effort, all aspects
The Angel of Power------- Angel of the Sun------Strength, Courage, Honor
The Angel of Creative Work------ Angel of Life------Sexual Balance Effort
The Angel of Eternal Life------ Angel of Earth-----Physical Body Life Effort


choosing to love someone is making a choice to be patient then kind. Irreguards to wether or not they return that back.. for LOVE is not selfish.

Real Love is indeed not selfish. The primary division between spirits here is made upon this point alone, the "givers v.s. the takers".


The "Mountain" of which I speak is the very Kingdom of Heaven at which pinnacle resides our Creator. The "climb" thereon is again the developmental aspects as presented above in regards to Love manifest in the realms presented.

The mountain is your entire live. They wind is how you live it. As the mountain is laid flat it covers a greater distance.. and that which is raised.. shall be brought low.. in the end of our life. we all are humbled or brought low.. by the wind.. how you live it...

the "Mountain" is indeed ones entire life, as all things exist within the Kingdom of God. Nothing exists outside of God who alone is "The Self Existent ONE".

The wind is only PART of how you live your life, as the other paths are outlined above. ALL of these aspects are to be BALANCED and brought to bear upon all aspects of one's spirit.

The objective in one's life is not simply to be "brought low", but rather to balance the "blows" of life with the "joys" of life so as not to exasperate and damage a spirit with too much abuse. Too many blows to a spirit can drive it into a very vicious bitter spiral if one is not careful.

the very Creation Herself "weighs" the Heart of a spirit against the ability of that Heart to manifest the entire spectrum of Love as detailed above. How one lives is EVERYTHING as Love is manifested to those surrounding said spirit by THAT spirit.

As well, the maturity level of a spirit "destines" the Love path of that spirit in accordance with the current ability of that spirit. An immature spirit always makes for poor husbands, fathers, wives, mothers etc. But such is the developmental profile for the maturing of spirits. A missionary helping the poor is far easier than being a good husband and father and is used to bring a spirit to the point that they are able to give of themselves in those greater capacities.

The "word of God" is that of Love in the ways detailed above, having nothing to do whatsoever with the "conquering" notions of the Bible. Those Truly "blessed" are those who apply themselves to the "narrow path" of advancing Real Love. All else is but a corruption of the Truth fashioned to put the good intentions of spirits at the command of dark spirits.

the way up the Mountain of Love is traveled by YOU. The supposed "free rides to the top" are nothing more than a ruse offered to stunt the growth of spirits and put the efforts of that spirit into the hands of the ruling dark spirits currently in power at the moment.

It matters in THE WAY a man lives verses what he does with what he is given.

A man who carries a peanut in his hand in this "race" while having a car unseen strapped to his back ,far outperforms the man outwardly carrying a seen boulder in his arms.

Disabilities here equate to return multipliers in the spiritual realm. The TRUE "greats" of this realm are not the braying pampered asses bellowing from the TV screens, but rather those overcomers who offer up life "performances" which are equal to those with no afflictions. The spirit realm "multipliers" of this realm are largely misunderstood by most here.


Sex is meant to be the HANDMAIDEN of Love, not the "Master" Herself as is so commonly thought these days. Turning that relationship between the two on its head was the primary MO used to attack the original Kingdom society.

The Way is HARD in ALL ways as detailed above so as to fully expand and establish the very BEING of a spirit. ALL of these pathways are specifically presented for the expansion of the spirit in EACH and ALL of those abilities as is necessitated for the full manifestation of Love in said spirit. Such in some books is likened to "Tuning" that "Love Song" of our Creator, that "Song" being one of the primary power vectors emanating from Him/Her. One of the other power vectors is the "Zero Point Energy" emanations.

Therefore, ones developed ability to "Tune" is yet another way of perceiving the maturity level of a given spirit.

GOD.....NEVER......calls upon a spirit to abandon their family, friends and children for the sake of "his will". Such notion is just more bastardization of the Truth so as to trick the many to relinquish their REAL destinies in life and put their efforts into the great vat of unwitting effort towards the ends of the dark spirits in control here. The so called "god" commanding such abuse is Set/Lucifer, plain and simple masquerading in garments of supposed "light".

Christ is NOT "someone followed", but rather a goal potentially attained by a spirit in regards to his/her ability to fully manifest the full spectrum of Love as detailed above.

Although Love OFTEN demands one to "deny" ones self, denial is NOT in and of itself a means to and end. The full spectrum of Love impacts a spirit in MANY different ways, some pleasant and full of good feelings, and others HARD and painful, in so doing "forging" up that spirit to greater capacity, much like "weight lifting" in the spiritual realm.

The "angel in the whirlwind" is Set/Lucifer, and in such does he "spin" the unsuspecting into a dizzy state of confusion with which he then assaults the world with hate and division under the guises of "love and light".

As for myself, I will be ALL things needed to Love in ALL ways, the captain of my OWN ship with Love as my God, and God as my Love. Let the wind blow where it will as ALL things are at the beck and call of the Mountain/Kingdom of God




People have either chosen to Love or not Love. Most obviously have chosen the latter. Likewise, there is no such thing as "bumping" somone "off" of Love.

This is not some "Gnosis" mind game as Lucifer has so deceived this world into chasing, but rather a HEART game.

Those with open Loving Hearts will be leaving. Those with closed self serving Hearts will be staying for more development. Needless to say, the relative proportion of those leaving to those staying is VERY VERY small indeed.

Nonetheless, those "leaving" will soon return to aid and assist all those "left behind" to successfully integrate their Hearts as well.

Welcome to the new timeline.(where no one is ever really "left behind")

The power of Truth and reason is far greater than Humanity can ever imagine in there wildest dreams , real time is when you love and appreciate.
I believe Einstein found that to be the greatest formula that humanity has yet to embrace as a family.

"A human being is a part of a whole, called by us _universe_, a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest... a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty." Albert Einstein

Rational thinking and truth are underated ..
"The further the spiritual evolution of mankind advances, the more certain it seems to me that the path to genuine religiosity does not lie through the fear of life, and the fear of death, and blind faith, but through striving after rational knowledge. Albert Einstein"

The Heart is a chariot and Rational thought, the horse. The chariot driver is our character, or ego. Each must work in tandem and in ways beneficial to the other for the driver to go anywhere worth going. Rational thought turned out "loose" and "free", is but a heartless wild horse which never takes the driver anywhere but out to graze in fields and do what it so desires.

So indeed the heart is but a "dead weight" in some ways, so it also is the platform for ALL things worthwhile. Just as the ancient Hebrew calls the female a "burden" which is worn around the neck of the male as in harvest, so does that "burden" give that man "fruit" which feeds him and defines all that he becomes.

In such a way then is the chariot the Divine Feminine, the horse the Divine Male and the driver the spirit wise enough to recognize the beauty of that "dance".


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A Goddess is a Woman who emerges from deep within herself. She is a Woman who has honestly explored her darkness and learned to celebrate her Light. She is a Woman who is able to fall in Love with the magnificent possibilities within her. She is a Woman who knows of the Magic and mysterious places inside her, the Sacred places that can nurture her Soul and make her whole. She is a woman who radiates Light.

She is magnetic. She walks into a room and male and female alike feel her presence. She has power and softness at the same time. She has powerful sexual energy that’s not dependent on physical looks. She has a body that she adores and it shows by the way she comfortably lives and moves in it. She cherishes Beauty, Light and Love. She is a Mother to all children. She flows with life in effortless Grace. She can Heal with a look or a touch of the hand. She is fiercely Sensual and fearlessly erotic and engages in sex as her way to share with another in touching the divine. She is compassion and wisdom. She is seeker of Truth and cares deeply about something bigger than herself. She is a woman who knows that her purpose in life is to reach Higher and rule with Love.

She is Woman in Love with Love. She knows that Joy is her destiny and by embracing it and sharing it with others, wounds are Healed. She is a woman who has come to know that her partner is as tender, lost, and frightened as she has been at times. She has come to understand the scars of the boy in him and knows that together, Love can be the relief, the Healing of their wounds. She is a woman who can accept herself as she is. She can accept another as they are. She is able to forgive her mistakes and not feel threatened by another’s even when attacked. She is a Woman who can ask for help when she needs it or give help when asked. She respects boundaries, hers and another’s. She can see God in another’s eyes. She can see God in her own. She can see God in every life situation. She is a Woman who takes responsibility for everything she Creates in her life. She is a Woman who is totally supportive and Giving.
She is a Goddess

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thankyou for helping me understand...why must i apoligise so much
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glad your back
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Knowing Your Brother

In learning to escape from illusions,
your debt to your brother is something
you must never forget.

Reason sees a holy relationship as what it is;
a common state of mind,
where both give errors gladly to correction,
that both may happily be healed as one.

Whenever you are with a brother,
you are learning what you are
because you are teaching what you are.
He will respond either with pain or with joy,
depending on which teacher you are following.
He will be imprisoned or released
according to your decision,
and so will you.
Never forget your responsibility to him,
because it is your responsibility to yourself.

Look gently on your brother,
and behold the world
in which perception of your hate
had been transformed into a world of love.

We begin the journey back by setting out together,
and gather in our brothers as we continue together.
Every gain in our strength is offered for all,
so they too can lay aside their weakness
and add their strength to us.

How can you find the way
except by taking your brother with you?

Everyone is looking for himself
and for the power and glory he thinks he has lost.
Whenever you are with anyone,
you have another opportunity to find them.

What you acknowledge in your bother
you are acknowledging in yourself,
and what you share you strengthen.

It will be given you to see your brother's worth
when all you want for him is peace.
And what you want for him
you will receive.

Look once again upon your brother,
not without the understanding
that he is the way to Heaven or to hell,
as you perceive him.
But forget not this;
the role you give to him is given to you,
and you will walk the way you pointed out to him
because it is your judgement on yourself.

You who are the same
will not decide alone or differently.
Either you give each other life or death;
either you are each other's savior or his judge.

Through your gratitude
you come to know you brother,
and one moment of real recognition
makes everyone your brother.

Know your brother as yourself.
Answer his call for love,
and yours is answered.

To know your brother is to know God.

Each little gift you offer to your brother lights up the world.

Nothing is asked of you
but to accept the changeless and eternal that abide in him,
for your Identity is there.
The peace in you can but be found in him.
And every thought of love you offer him
but brings you nearer to you wakening
to peace eternal and to endless joy.

When you have seen you brothers as yourself you will be released.

The quiet that surrounds you dwells in him,
and from this quiet come the happy dreams
in which your hands are joined in innocence.
These are not hands that grasp in dreams of pain.
They hold no sword,
for they have left their hold
on every vain illusion of this world.
And being empty they receive, instead,
a brother's hand in which completion lies.

The brother neither leads nor follows us,
but walks beside us on the selfsame road.
He is like us,
as near or far away from hat we want
as we will let him be.
We make no gains he does not make with us,
and we fall back if he does not advance.
Take not his hand in anger but in love,
for in his progress do you count your own.

Have faith in him who walks with you,
so that your fearful concept of yourself may change.

Choose once again what you would have him be,
remember that every choice you make
establishes your own identity
as you will see it and believe it is.

When you have become willing to hide nothing,
you will not only be willing
to enter into communion
but will also understand peace and joy.

From the oneness that we have attained
we call to all our brothers,
asking them to share our peace
and consummate our joy.

Let us celebrate our release together
by releasing everyone with us.

Let us unite in brining blessing to the world.

Our function is to work together,
because apart from each other
we cannot function at all.
The whole power of God's Son
lies in all of us,
but not in any of us alone.

I would see you as my friend,
that I may remember you are part of me
and come to know myself.

Peace to my brother, who is one with me.
Let all the world be blessed with peace through us.
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this was a response from a thread after i posted the gematria link to geomtry post which is on page 131.

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David, as much as I'd like to be able to understand what you are saying, it is just a bunch of symbols, numbers, and riddles to me. Is there an all powerful Creator or God, or do you believe you can somehow create your own reality and become God yourself? I would love to understand what you're trying to say, but could you say it in plain understandable English. If you can't say I'll have to assume your a Free Mason or some other sort of occultist, sworn to secrecy, for your own ego's sake. To each his own way.
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There is a Creator God.
I like to use the word Great spirit to describe it.
To me God is unconditional LOVE in its purest form.

I am not a mason or an occultist but i have always understood math even from an early age.

I thought that I was God due to mental confusion via a mental illness known as schizo affective disorder. That condition is both schizophrenia and bi polar combined.

the symptom where one believes such as this is not uncommon.

Due to my mind making it real for me i had experiences that fueled this belief and at times it comes back with relapses.

The thing most do not know about me is that in order to do what i have done in my mind and heart it ripped me in two.

It feels like a very scary hell where i am subject to be put into submission to demons and evil things like i am a host for all things to manifest.
And at those times it is like everything that happens all the bad is my fault and then i feel so much pain and suffering as i take on hell and all that are in it.

Then this goes on for an eternity where i feel all the things that evil people do to innocents like being raped beaten murdered ect. ect.

Then at the last moment when i am broken I get to spend a day with God the father.

In his loving embrace i am filled with twice the love than the pain I have endured.

That day lasts 1000 years.

Then i wake up usually in the hospital with a very difficult time ahead of me because i have a hard time distinguishing reality from that place.

The thing is this has happened more than once for me

and each time it does the pain and suffering doubles and the love doubles to heal me.

it is quite scary.

that is what happens when i get sick.

They call it psychosis

and each episode when this happens alters the way i perceive time.

It is like having your subconscious become the conscious and vise verse.

This is the path I walk.


My writing skills are not that good i say too many words when few are needed.

But how i write is as if i am talking so that is how i try to communicate.

When i was 15 my mind was blank only knowing my first name. It took some years to gain my memories which i have done.

Some of the things that i have been through have been heart breaking things to have happen but it built my character.

When i was younger I rebelled and got involved with drugs and alcohol.

I used to think i could escape with drugs and alcohol but it too became a lie when my sorrows learned how to swim.

I am a light worker and by that i mean i program light shows via a digital multiplex universe using binary and hex commands through a type of batch file.

I have had visions where i was told i am a Son of God.

The things that i have been through and the faith i have had in my beliefs have given me an understanding of how i can see this world as being.

The ego i tore down and rebuilt with love and truth.

The thing is when i lost my sense of self i took on more than i bargained for because in order to understand oneself and others you must know thy self

What i have seen and experienced can be seen by others as being a symptom of my illness but to me i did experience it.

I think the world is real and that there are other things that are not.

But at times it gets confusing because my condition effects all of my senses and also my emotions.

as far as ones understanding of God

I would like to share this


Quoted from the book by Paul Twitchell "Stranger by the River"

I wish to declare the riddle of God to thee. It is most important that this be done. Listen closely and understand. The riddle of God is this.

God is what ye believe IT is. No man is wrong about the existence of God, and yet no man is right about his knowledge of God. There is no mystery in God except that IT is what soul believes that IT is. So the riddle is that: but all men will quarrel and argue about the greatness of God and their own knowledge of Him.

Yet every man is right in his knowledge of God. But does this mean that the drunkard is as right as the great minister who preaches from the pulpit? Yea, I say that he, the drunkard, is as much upon the path as the preacher is in his pulpit. Ah, but this is justified in thy thinking. Each in his own place according to his understanding, Ah, but there is the answer.

If the drunkard seeks God through his bottle, and it seems irreverent to speak of both in the same breath, then let it be. But I mean to tell ye that the seeking of happiness, be it on a material plane or spiritual plane is the seeking of God.The ideal of the drunkard is to become drunk and unconscious so he can forget all and dwell within himself in a state of happiness. The God-seeker wishes to become unconscious in a state of inner silence to forget all and dwell in a state of happiness within. What is the difference?

None I tell ye, for the drunkard may be closer to God than the God-seeker who with all his intensity for the SUGMAD ( GOD/ABSOLUTE BEINGNESS/INFINITE BEING) may drive it away. On the other hand, the drunkard will in his drunkenness forget himself, his selfishness, and false self, and it being this way, may have God\'s mercy granted him and lo, enlightenment comes.

Only two things pervade upon the seeker or the drunkard. Both must be interested in what they seek, be it God or selfish interest. Both must have concentrated upon what they are seeking, and in finding it must believe in it.

The only difference is usually of character and ideals. but who knows what thy fellowmen has in his heart unless his tongue or deeds reveal such? And such is the riddle of God. God will come to anyone who needs Him, regardless of what their state of character or ideals may be.

This is the riddle of God.


I have also a liking for this too

beginning the seven sacred paths of human transformation

on the first path, the east direction of the medicine wheel, we become illuminated and begin to see clearly that there is a purpose for our lives. We embrace a new form of clarity, which takes us beyond our former " what is life offering me"? perspective.

on the second path, the south direction , we learn to rise above childish human reactions, compulsions, and unhealthy emotions.

the third path, the west direction, teaches us how to heal our pasts, our bodies, and our self esteem.

on the fourth path, the north direction, we learn how to share the wisdom we have gained, as well as how to live with compassionate non judgmental hearts.

the fifth path is the above direction, where we embrace the unseen worlds of spirit, the heavenly realms, the unknown parts of the universe, and the intangible forces in creation.

the sixth path is below direction, where we learn how to perceive the unseen forces in the natural world and the connections to spirit existing in all living things, and we learn how to bring our own spirits fully into human bodies.

on the seventh path, the within or now direction, we learn how to gain access to all life in our universe within our own human body and to walk through life in a state of full spiritual awareness, without any separation or judgement

dancing the dream by jamie sams

what is there to do now?
now is the center of both heaven and hell

it is the axis point

questions are often answered in silence

look within and find the answers you seek

love is the answer to all things

there are 7 directions and the 8 is the space in which it moves

up
down
left
right
forward
back
center

and through

to be who you are is why you exist

know yourself
love yourself

accept limitations as building blocks to strength

what you see is what you get

in order to know love, you have to relate

family is relating

relativity

i was born

on a date

my parents were before me

and so forth

in the beginning was

i am here now

how long is infinity?

what is 1 day or 1 week or 1 life compared to 1 000 000 000 000 000 000

my answer is this

what comes after 99999999999999999999

it is always 1

i step

learn to crawl
learn to walk
learn to fly

love all life

we are all a creation of the creator

we are the way we are because this is a reference point

if i look to my fathers fathers fathers and mothers mothers mothers

all the way back

i live

my children some day will look back to me

one at a time one step at a time

but i know that my father is not me
and i am not him

same but different

he taught me the basics
it was tough lessons

but once learned

i became who i am

i am David

i will be here until i no longer exist

the state of my mater changes
i take in
i let go

i just am happy to breath and drink when thirsty
eat when hungry
cry when sad
laugh when happy

and smile and give thanks in my heart and mind through the actions of my soul (body) for the love that keeps me going

i am just a man after Gods heart
God is Love




Puzzled no more'
Sorry for all your struggles, but I'm no dummy. You say you're not a Mason or an occultist, but my experience is if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it usually a duck. Maybe one of your other personalities, is the Mason. It's not unusual for the children of these people to have been abused and have multiple personality disorder. If someone did this to you against your will, the Creator will not hold it against you. I will pray the Creator restores your mind to it's original, perfect state. You don't need any secret wisdom or knowledge to be a child of the Creator. Love life, love yourself, try to love your neighbor as yourself, and love the Creator. He will not reject you, nor does He expect you to be perfect. Peace and love.




do not judge a book by its cover
My struggles are something that i learn from.

I know that the creator loves me and all its creation

the creator is pure LOVE.

My mind has been restored.
Perfection is not the goal.

The things i took on were because of something that i had to go through at that time.

God did not do it to me but helped me through it by wiping my tears of it in the end.

Most of what i have been through is not much compared to what others suffer.

The pain i have endured i have tried to transform into a source of healing for others.

Being taught from the bible at an early age with out comprehending it twisted my mind for some time.

I have tried in my own way to come to terms with the bible and to learn as much as my heart can handle.

the king James bible is full of masonic stuff and most are unaware.

I have tried to shed a bit of light on the subject of Gematria and sacred geometry in hopes of helping others see a deeper meaning that is often hidden.

I think i do my best with what i am given to work with and when a mind gets shit to work with it has to be digested then excreted and what little food value is kept.

But i know universal truths

such as the teachings of Jesus Christ.

Although i posted a wall of text of esoteric information about the math and symbolism of the bible i recomend these videos


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its quite funny how so much information is hidden in plain sight

truly there are wolves in sheep's clothing guarding all the doors with a ferocious appetite

please do not judge me as being a multiple personality because i am not.

that is not what schizo affective is.

and do not feel sorry for me my life is good and i am loved.

what more can i ask for?



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Owning our story can be hard but not nearly as difficult as spending our lives running from it.
Embracing our vulnerabiliteis is risky but not nearlyt as dangerous as giving up on love and belonging and joy[The experiences that make us the must vulnerable].
Only when we are brave enough to explore the darkness will we discover the infinite power of ourlight.

Brene Brown, The Gifts of Imperfection.
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Grandmother says... Carrots, Eggs, or Coffee; "Which are you?"

A young woman went to her grandmother and told her about her life and how things were so hard for her. She did not know how she was going to make it and wanted to give up. She was tired of fighting and struggling. It seemed as one problem was solved a new one arose.

Her grandmother took her to the kitchen. She filled three pots with water. In the first, she placed carrots, in the second she placed eggs and the last she placed ground coffee beans. She let them sit and boil without saying a word.

In about twenty minutes she turned off the burners. She fished the carrots out and placed them in a bowl. She pulled the eggs out and placed them in a bowl. Then she ladled the coffee out and placed it in a bowl. Turning to her granddaughter, she asked, "Tell me what do you see?"

"Carrots, eggs, and coffee," she replied.

She brought her closer and asked her to feel the carrots. She did and noted that they got soft.She then asked her to take an egg and break it.

After pulling off the shell, she observed the hard-boiled egg.

Finally, she asked her to sip the coffee. The granddaughter smiled, as she tasted its rich aroma. The granddaughter then asked. "What's the point,grandmother?"

Her grandmother explained that each of these objects had faced the same adversity--boiling water--but each reacted differently.

The carrot went in strong, hard and unrelenting. However after being subjected to the boiling water, it softened and became weak. The egg had been fragile. Its thin outer shell had protected its liquid interior. But, after sitting through the boiling water, its inside became hardened.

The ground coffee beans were unique, however. After they were in the boiling water they had changed the water.

"Which are you?" she asked her granddaughter.

"When adversity knocks on your door, how do you respond? Are you a carrot, an egg, or a coffee bean?"

Think of this: Which am I?

Am I the carrot that seems strong, but with pain and adversity, do I wilt and become soft and lose my strength?

Am I the egg that starts with a malleable heart, but changes with the heat? Did I have a fluid spirit, but after a death, a breakup, a financial hardship or some other trial, have I become hardened and stiff?

Does my shell look the same, but on the inside am I bitter and tough with a stiff spirit and a hardened heart?

Or am I like the coffee bean? The bean actually changes the hot water, the very circumstance that brings the pain. When the water gets hot, it releases the fragrance and flavor. If you are like the bean, when things are at their worst, you get better and change the situation around you.

When the hours are the darkest and trials are their greatest do you elevate to another level?
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A Golden King


There once was a beloved little boy
With an imagination as wide as the sky
Who viewed life as a wondrous playground
And lived happily in the royal land of Innocence.

How he so enjoyed nature and loved to play...
Everywhere
Anywhere
All morning
All afternoon
All night
The land of Innocence was free
And pure
And all his.

There was little preference to his play
Running, climbing, exploring,
And quiet creative imaginings that he put together
With his exquisite mind
And with his small lively hands

He was the special and joyful sparkle of his loving grandmother’s eye,
And the honored recipient of grandfather’s treasured wisdom.
They all lived as one in a glistening palace
Loved together
Feasted together
Familied together
In the vast royal land of Innocence.

He was a mere child when the earth reclaimed his grandmother
Her love and care for him was sadly missed.
Not long thereafter Grandfather was gone too
His strong guidance forever etched in the boys mind.
Hanging his head in sorrow
The broken hearted boy walked sadly away from the palace
In search of a new home.

Great storms began to ravish the land and playlots
Dark clouds governed the airs
The skies wept
The earth shuddered
Great walls were erected by stern angry soldiers
Demons and snakes crawled the earth
The vast land of Innocence came under new rule.

The lonely frightened boy used his small lively hands to forge tools and weapons
To help him survive in this new land
He concealed his royalty with a heavy suit of armor
Became a man
Hardened his stance
As he learned the ways of this dark new government.

He become one of the many to guard the walls
Though he walked alone
Slaying dragons as they crossed his path
Ghosts taunted his sleep
Demons tormented his step
His weapons multiplied as he became more and more proficient
In using them.

While walking down a desolate path one day
He came across a tiny bird with beautiful feathers
Sitting upon a fallen twig
Singing a familiar sweet song
He stopped for only a moment to watch and listen to the tiny bird
An armored soldier such as he
Has not come across such a sight or a sound as this
In the wilderness.

As he continued his mighty walk
The tiny bird’s song followed him everywhere he went
Even in his fights and battles
He heard the song
Even as he toiled to oblige the rulers of the land
He heard the song
Each day and night
Every day and night
Till he set out to search the wilderness for the tiny bird once again.

He laid down his sword on the desolate path near the fallen twig
And the tiny bird with beautiful feathers perched upon it
And sang the sweet song
How mystically familiar this song sounded
And he began to take off some of his armor
So he could reach out his hand to the tiny bird.
The tiny bird stretched out its beautiful wings and flew to his hand
Looked into his eyes
And sang its sweet song.

Each day he escaped the eyes of the dark rulers
And the confined walls
Removed his weighty armor
And visited the tiny bird
Who had quickly become his beloved friend
Perched upon his lap
And looking into his eyes
The bird sang sweetly
As he smiled in rapturous delight.

After many visits to this secret place
The tiny bird looked into his eyes
And beckoned him to come forth
And join the melodies of the sweet song
He followed what the tiny bird had asked
And began to softly sing the familiar sweet song.

They sang together
Louder and louder the song became
A melodic gift that glistened like gold
Never a more beautiful sound was heard.

Like magic, united upon the breath of their golden song
The tiny bird spread its beautiful wings
Now mighty
And circled the skies above
In preparation of flight over dangerous lands.

No longer possessing weapons or armor
He had only the love in his heart
To offer as protection for his tiny beloved friend
He feared that the tiny bird with the beautiful feathers
And their sweet golden song
Would fall prey to the dark forces ahead.
Seeing the love of his heart through his eyes
The tiny bird lifted him up and held him safely ‘neath its mighty wings
As they rose together into the air and journeyed through great perils and time
Bravely singing their golden song.

In exhaustion he collapsed into sleep and fell upon the earth
There is no way of knowing how much time actually passed
Till he awoke
It must have been the sweet song that perked his ears
And opened his eyes
He rose to his feet
And in astonishment
Found himself in the pure pristine land of Innocence.

The walls were gone
The skies were bright and clear
All of nature smiled and rejoiced
The sweet song filled the air.
And before him stood his glistening palace
His eyes filled with the tears of divine reunion
His heart danced in youthful joyous excitement
As he swiftly opened the door
And walked through
“I am home at long last!” he proclaimed in all his royalty
Upon the voice of golden song.


“Yet where is my beloved tiny bird, my treasured companion?”
He searched frantically high and low
Finding only a single feather upon the doorstep
He lifted the precious treasure from the floor,
And pressed it to his heart
Where it illuminated and transformed into a luminescent gold.


Such Light began to beam from his chest!
With arms outstretched and his strong chest majestically lifted
He delivered forth the massive golden stream of light into the heavens
To shine eternally as the Sun
And bathe and nourish all with Light
And a sweet golden song
As the land of Innocence was filled with Love once more.


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The book of life

it tears at my heart and rips it to pieces
only to cherish each broken piece in the end
it takes me to a place of pain
to make me feel more alive
when i read how it ends.

STARS
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We are powerful beyond measure, and so deeply vulnerable at the same time. This may seem like a dichotomy, but it isn’t. We have misunderstood real power. It has been something assertive, non-surrendering, pushing on through. This is not real power. This is simply willfulness. Real power is something else- receptivity, openness, the courage to keep your heart open on the darkest of days, the strength to feel it all even when the odds are stacked against you. Real power is showing up with your heart on your sleeve and absolutely refusing to waste one moment of your life hidden behind edginess and armor.
~ Jeff Brown
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today on my walk home i saw a robin with a red belly and he followed me for my journey home.
for almost an hour he kept a bout 7 feet or so ahead and singing to me
so i looked around and noticed the other things singing
i could hear so many different songs all going together it was so beautiful
as i closed my eyes i could hear for a further distance the birds and they were not in stereo but in surround surround or something beyond the self.
then the noise of the city faded as the cars stopped and the city was slow for a time on the way home.
i could hear the song
it was so nice.



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The Sword and the Dove


"Maybe the problem is the love conundrum. Love seems to be placed in life for learning, and there is so much of it. There is great benefit in being alone and seeking enlightenment."

Well, according to Michael, Love does not exist here so I suppose in his view therefore cannot pose a problem. (Right Michael? :-) )

Of course, as with so many things here, Michael's view of such is a bit of a conundrum, because in so many ways Michael is personifying the very Love he says doesn't exist. LOL

I suppose such is more a symantec than a reality as our much crippling mode of communication leaves many things unsaid.

Love has many faces and few recognize those which they imagine to be "ugly". I suppose Michael falls much into this category as I myself apparently do in many of the "Love" circles out there.

There are two symbols used to display the extreme positions of the "window" of Love, symbols which also identify with the genders as well to varied degrees.

Those symbols are the Sword and the Dove. Most people out there will generally assume the Dove when the topic of Love is approached while never really understanding the Sword side of the same coin. Michael clearly personifies the Sword aspect of Love while claiming that the Dove does not exist in this realm.

And from his perspective that may very well be the case as such is a personal "knothole" type assessment observed on the pathway of life here. As for myself, the Dove does in fact exist here but is rare indeed to see in the battlefield of our current sad situation.

As for the "Love and Light" crowd, I'll add my cynical laughter to Micheal's as I have as yet to see anything remotely approaching such in those circles, or any religious circles for that matter.

The foundation of Love is much like a Castle in that the Sword provides the protective shell for the survival of that which is protected within, the Dove. As many may have noticed, the Dove does in fact DIE without the aid of the Sword of Truth at the ready. That is the reason that real Love is never/rarely found in the circles of mass deception as the very deception is imposed solely for the purposes of emasculating the Dove.

To a degree one will notice that the genders are set apart for the purposes described above, the Male, powerful, logical, cutting, is in fact the spiritual personification of the Sword, while the Female is compassionate, nurturing, "Loving", and kind. Now, don't misunderstand me to be saying that these qualities are not shared between BOTH Males and Females, but rather that they each tend to exhibit them more as a general rule based on their gender. I know, many will say, "but Saxon, I know a girl that's logical, cutting, powerful etc. etc.", not realizing their sighting to be but a single anecdotal data point poised against a mountain of contradiction of the same. I'm talking standard deviation curves here where the anecdotal data point is referred to as a "3 Sigma" or greater observation.

Obviously the intended confusion between the identity of the sexes today is in no way "accidental" as there is no better way to destroy Love than in the swirling whirlwinds of deception, the "whirlwinds" ridden by the "angel" Lucifer. To cast one's self against this most fundamental aspect of ourselves is to fight one's self in a mirror. Try as one might, the loneliness and despair will not depart until the heart is satisfied with the very holding of its design, the containment of Love, both the Sword and the Dove, proportioned dependent upon the gender holder.

As anger potentially drives away the deception, only surrender will ultimately find and capture the Dove as she will only perch upon the branch so extended by the warrior, the seemingly contradictory branch of compassion, gentleness and kindness growing out of the hardened em battlement of the much battle weary Sword of Truth. In such is the much vaunted "andorgeny" of the gnostic realms, something wholly misunderstood within these circles.

Now possibly the reader may understand the reason our existence is so proliferated with the notion of the Male and Female as such IS the very foundation of "heaven" and in such will the existence longed for by the many here be returned.
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KILL THEM ALL

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FLUSH ALL THE TURDS DOWN THE TOILET
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BLOW THE TURDS MINDS



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The ghost town represents the death of humanity and the later reclamation and rise of nature (shots of trees and roses). Consider that 3 suns also means 3 times the heat.
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The ghost town represents the death of humanity and the later reclamation and rise of nature (shots of trees and roses). Consider that 3 suns also means 3 times the heat.
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Wow, interesting interpretation there.

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